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this your hot here [Music] yeah okay here we go so we started learning and I pray that we continue that today because it was fairly simple what is it that we do I should put like a banner in the like won't be able to take questions while looking at the screen you start I start you goter 13 when a person finds a lost object and he's obligated to return He is obligated to announce its Discovery and made it known saying whoever lost this type of article should come identify with s and take it even if the article was worth a to at the time of its Discovery but depreciated in value and went down to Value the finder is required to announce its Discovery there was a large Stone outside on which announcements would be made how was an announcement made the person who stubborn money he announces whoever lost coins should come similarly he announces whoever lost a garment an animal or promiser notes should come identify them with march with and collect them he need not worry about he he need not worry because he mentioned that type of object that was discovered for he will not return it until it is identified with distinctive marks that's what they call um P I think yeah like the announcement right like you you always see in 770 like if someone lost a pair of airpods which the Simon isn't I the Simon isn't I lost airpods the is whatever you know where they were [Music] to answer him do that too okay I think he's calling me because he's watching this but uh can't take it now okay gimmel if the owner of the Lost object came and identified it with Marx or he's watching on the camera zalia he's the RAB here the owner of the Lost object came and identified it with marks that are not distinctive it should not be returned to him until he identifies with distinctive marks when a person is known can't just come and say I lost airpods 77 where where did you lose it or what color was the case or whatever when a person is known as a deceiver a lost article should not be returned to him even if he identifies it with distinctive marks he must bring Witnesses who testify that the article is his said that the that says that you should keep the until your your brother comes seeking it is meaning you you should also seek into him look into him and and see if he's a if he's a cheater or a trickster if he is like Lin who we learn about today being a real scumbag then you don't return it first anyone who would lose an object would come and give any type of s that's the way it worked you would returned to him unless you know he was he had like when many of those people increased you have to bring witnesses that can verify your trustworthiness and then bring a Simon and then you'll be able to keep it distinctive marks are relied upon and used as the basis for Court ruling in all matters according to the an object's measure weight is its number or the place where it was lost are considered distinctive marks yeah if two people come with and both identify the article by its marks in the same manner the article should not be given to either of them instead it should remain in the finder's possession until one of them acknowledges his colleague's claim or they arrive at a compromise if one of them identifies the article by marks and the other brings Witnesses who would testify that this article is his the article is given to the one who brought Witnesses both claimants identify the article with marks and one brings one witness to support his claim the presence of the witness is not considered of consequence and the article should remain in the finder's possession okay if a person finds a dress or an article of that nature and there are two people claiming that it belongs to them one brings Witnesses who testify that it was woven for him and one brings Witnesses who testify that it was lost from him it fell from his possession it should be given to the one whose Witnesses testify that they saw the article fall if one identifies it by stating its length and the other identifies it by stating its width it should be given to the one who stated its length for it's possible for a deceiver to deduce its width by watching the owner when wearing it interesting why can't you deduce its length I guess it's harder um if one identifies it by stating its length and its width and the other one identifies it by stating its weight it should be given to the one who identifies it by saying its weight if one identifies it by stating its length and width and the other identifies it by stating the measure of its fringes it should be given to the one who stated its length and width all right 8 chapter 13 originally whoever would find a lost object would announce its Discovery three times a year at the three y the the reg on the first Festival he would say that he was making this announcement for the first time the second Festival he would say going twice right it was the second time and on the third Festival he would announce the discovery of the article without mentioning the number of times because a listener might hear incorrectly and confuse the second announcement with the third yeah might hear in incorrectly and confuse the second announcement with the third after the third he should wait seven days and make a fourth announcement interesting this provision enabled the person who heard to travel home in 3 days check his household articles and return in 3 days thus he could meet the person when he made the fourth announcement on the seven days on the seventh day uhhuh so first Regal second Regal third one but he doesn't announce that it's the third time I guess because maybe a person would I don't understand that if you were to announce that it's the third time maybe someone would think it's the second so I'm better off not announcing what what does that mean but then he does it a fourth time after he waits seven days and then makes a fourth announcement and those seven days basically is supposed to be giving time for the person to go home and see if he lost it okay that's that's originally right so but then what happened when the was destroyed ordained that announcement be made in schs and cogs and study halls when there was an increase in the number of men of violence who say all objects lost object all lost objects Belong To The King ordained that announcement should be made discreetly to one's neighbors and Associates Associates and that is sufficient if an announcement or notification was made and the owner did not come to claim and the discovered object if should remain in the possession of the finder tell and never comes it's lost or stolen while it's in the finder's possession he is responsible for it for oh wow if it's destroyed by force Beyond this control he is not liable Ral is that a person who cares for a lost object is considered a paid Watchman who is involved in performance of a Mitzvah and and as such is free from the obligation to perform several positive Commandments as long as he's occupied with guarding it he's considered a sh what's his is that he doesn't have to go do other mitz because he's busy doing this one I'm busy guarding my friend's object that's so interesting wow okay the one second but at what what why was there okay let's let's let's Tru y the finder must pay attention to the Lost article and inspect it so that it will not become spoiled and ruined over the course of time this may be inferred from Deuteronomy 22:2 which states and you shall return it to him implied is that one must see to it that the article will in fact be returned intact what is implied if one finds a Woolen garment one should shake it out every 30 days right you don't want uh dust or whatever collecting or it gets ruined he should not shake it out using a staff nor with two people um because then it could rip he may spread it out on a couch for its own benefit but not for its benefit and his benefit let's say he has guests coming and he wants to make the couch look nicer or whatever if guests visit him he should not spread it out in their presence even for its own benefit why because the risk is that it might be stolen if one finds wooden utensils how do you take care of them he should use them so that they don't rot if he finds copper utensils he should use them for hot substances but you should not expose them to fire directly because then they become warm silver that's funny I was just I was looking into like different uh like cookware and apparently copper is very good like and it lasts a long time and it's like better like healthwise than like the non-stick stuff um interesting I wonder what it means that it becomes warm or maybe that it like it looks more I don't know I don't know so utensils should not be used should be used only for cold but not for hot cuz they become discolored I don't know my silver becomes discolored regardless if one finds rakes or hatchets one should use them just my beffer actually it's only the silver that I use the silver that my wife uses looks like it's brand brand new silver that I use suddenly like I don't know if one finds rakes or hatchets one should use them right I should I could just polish it if one finds rakes or hatchets one should use them with soft substances so that way it actually stay like it's it doesn't rust and it stays used and sharp but not with hard ones because then you might actually overuse it its value might deteriorate if one finds golden utensils glass utensils or linen garments one should not touch them until y arrives because those things are way too fine and and delicate some principles that apply to a lost object which one discovered apply to an entrusted object whose owner undertook a long journey this is like in watches by the way like the the gold yellow gold watches like just from like people want to come and try it on and whatever but and and obviously that's how you you run a business and you allow that if it's a trustworthy person but like literally just by handling it it's something called handling marks that like a watch will be brand new but it looks like once you touch it yeah like literally gold is so delicate that like just from using it just from like you know taking it out of the box putting it back in the Box yeah but even then like still just like just the you know taking it out is already like it has marking 13 yeah if he finds Scrolls he should read them once in 30 days if he does not know how to read he should roll them every 30 days one should never study a subject for the first time from the Scrolls nor should one read a passage and repeat it or translate it one should not open the scroll more than three columns why two people should not read two different subjects from the same scroll L each pull it to himself and ruin the scroll two people may however read the same subject three people may not read from the same scroll however even if they are reading about the same subject so like tedious precise yeah 14 if one finds feeling he may have their value of praise and da them put them on rational is that filling are commonplace articles possessed by everyone and the purpose is only for the sake of fulfillment of the mitah so ler he could use them yeah I it's a thing if you don't have to fill and you see a you're all you're allow to put them on without Comm appar right because the point is it's not considered it's not a piece of art like a phys it's not like it has a specific value in and of itself there's art to the craft of making tillin but that's uh the point is the Mitzvah today's you learned today's Tanya yeah like it's very it's very powerful it really makes you appreciate like a physical Mitzvah in this world yeah so the point of the of the is the Mitzvah so you can use them you have them appraised so this way you know what the value is for the you know to be returned but you can use it following rules apply if a person finds a living being that must be fed right I find a horse if the found object may be used to earn money although it eats for example a cow or a donkey the finder should care for them for 12 months from the day of their Discovery should hire them out and feed them if the rental he receives for their hire exceeds the cost of their food so the additional amount belongs to the owner basically you're running a business on behalf of someone else with their animal similarly if one finds chickens one should sell their eggs and feed them for 12 months from this time onward one should have their value assessed they're considered belonging in Partnership to the finder and the owner because otherwise what you're running a business on behalf of someone for free right I I'll lose all my stuff so somebody else can find it and take care of it the arrangement is governed by the laws upon to one who raises livestock for a colag right so that's basically the finder receives half of the increase in value as payment for his efforts um right the famous Story how someone he once found like a chicken or two chickens it was and basically he ended up eventually like the the guy who who once upon a time lost chickens met um like gives this guy like tons of goats and whatever you know because he was just like he turned the two chickens into like a a goat coats sorry okay if one finds calves calves or ponies that pasture he should care for them for 3 months so that's not just like a cow or a donkey which you feed it but these things pasture like they're just uh I believe that that means that they're basically eating all day so you care for them for less it's for 3 months if he finds beasts that must be fed he should care for them for 30 days um if he find finds younger fowl and any other live being whose care is large dies roosters oh yeah skipped that if he finds large ye or roosters he should care for them for 30 days if he finds younger fowl and any other live being whose care is more costly than the wage that can be earned with it he should care for them for 3 days and afterwards he should sell them in the presence of a court if you flip this over it would probably try don't no not like that I'm saying oh it's on top can [Music] you what should be done with the money of the sale what we talking about you after you sell you found animals that are too difficult to take care of for so long and they don't make you money or the owner money so you could sell them in the presence of the court right so oh I didn't even finished that's what I'm saying similarly if produce has begun to rot or other similar things occur to a lost object it should be sold in the presence of a court but now what you do money with the money not should be done with the money from the sale it should be given to the finder he has permission to use it as a loan therefore if the money is lost by forces Beyond his control it was plundered by an attacking force or S into see his for its repayment even if he never made use of it since he had permission to use it it's as if he borrowed it he and even to buy anus he needs to be responsible which funds May a finder make use of the money received or of for the sale of a lost object since he cared for the object he has given this privilege however a person finds money he should not make use of it therefore if it's lost because of forces Beyond his control he is not for he is considered a paid Watchman as we explained above you may think you're doing your friend a favor by investing lost money in Bitcoin but really you're just not supposed to touch it during the entire time in which the finder cares for the Lost animal before selling it in court if he feeds it from his own resources he must be reimbursed by the owner it appears to me that he is entitled to collect this sum without supporting his claim with an oath this is a decree ordained for the benefit of society because otherwise I would be I would just ignore things right so the point is that I'm supposed to go and take it and and hope to find the owner eventually and take care of it when a person finds a lost object he is not required to take an oath meaning if the original owner claims that the article wasn't returned to him the finder doesn't need to take an oath and say what do you mean I did return it this is a decree ordained for the benefit of society because if we would make people need to do that then they would never want to deal with they see the Lost thing and just leave it for if the finder of the Lost article were required to take an oath he would ignore the Lost article and proceed on his way so that he would not be required to take the oath even if a person found a wallet and the owner of the wallet claimed that there was another wallet TI together with it and it's impossible to find one without finding the other so for sure the finder found it finder is not required to take it off really do not watch your brother's ox or sheep go astray and ignore turn them to him this is what must be done this is what you must do to this D and To His Garment and to all lost articles that your brother will lose and you will find the Garment included in the general category of all articles that your brother will lose as as is an ox a sheep and a donkey why then does a donkey DET mention a individually the said it should be returned when there is a Simon in identifying mark on its question not on the donkey itself although the Mark is on a matter of secondary importance it should be returned why does a Tyra mention AR on a sheep individually to teach that the shearings of a sheep and even the shearings of the tail of an AR which and in substantial matter must be returned why does the T mention a garment individually to teach a following concept a garment is unique that it has marks by which it could be identified and when we presume that it owner would seek and and we presume that the owner will take his recovery and thus becomes a paradigm and any article that has marks and has owners who seek its recovery must be returned however Allah's article longer has owners to seek it for they have despaired of its recovery it belongs to its finder even if has marks by which it can be identified having memories of fifth grade learning Al you me that in fifth grade I learned that I [Music] remember this General this principle must be followed with regard to a lost article whenever an article does not have a mark by which it can be identified meaning one's nail or needle as soon as the owner knew that it was L that is lust we presume that the owner desp of its recovery for they cannot provide a Simon by which it can be identified and return it to them therefore it belongs to the finder um one by contrast an article has a mark by which it can be identified for example a garment or an animal we presume that the owners have not despaired of its recovery for if they think for they think that they will be able to identify it by its marks and it will be returned to them for this reason a person who finds it who finds it is obligated to announce its Discovery unless he knows that the owners have despaired of its recovery for example he heard them saying how terrible a loss that's interesting because they're saying that you know exactly who owns it but I guess we're saying on a purely technical level if that's what they are if they're giving up then it could belong to him but obviously based on what we learned yesterday like best thing to do is obviously return or other right if he says that or other things that indicate that they despar of his return in such an instance they the Lost article belongs to its finder similarly if a person finds an article that has a mark by which it can be identified in the sea in a river or the like or in a place where the majority of people are Gentiles he may presume that its owner is despaired of its recovery at the time that it fell it therefore belongs to the finder even though he has not heard that the owner is just R of his recovery so something without a Simon chances are he has just because he has no way of identifying and something even with Shimon that that's lost in a place where chances are it won't be found or the person who will find it doesn't have any obligation to return it to him then we can also assume that the person so you find uh I don't know you find even you find some let's say airpods it's an easy one that people lose you find some airpods and Six Flags on a random on a random Wednesday then uh probably don't need to go and announce it sure but you find it on chances are the majority of the people in there are Y and you should get on all those WhatsApp groups orl during sh wi right exactly hey when the owner of an article does not know of its loss he is not considered to have Des spous recovery I don't know if that's sorry to interrupt you I don't know if that's a good example because places like Six Flags have like a return lost and found and overall I think people are good people so like people don't despair you know like thinking like I would go to the lost and F and say did anybody report finding that's probably that's really what you're supposed to do in those places well you find it on the highway on the way there on the way or you find it in the parking lot when the owner of an arle does not over he has not considered he's not considered to have dispair recovery if it does not have a mark by which it can be identified what does imply if a person dropped a dinar and realiz that he dropped it not have the spirit of it of its recovery till he becomes aware that he dropped it even though he will certainly the spirit of its recovery when he realizes that he dropped it it's forbid to take the article that time a you moreover if an owner is unaware of the article was dropped even though he is aware of it absence but thinks maybe I D could so so place in a cabinet made a mistake in my accounts or is not considered to have the spirit of the Articles return When a person sees a colag drop a dinar on the ground without being aware of it and takes the dinar because his colleague despairs of his recovery he transgresses to a positive and two as we have explained even if he returns the din to his colleague after the latter has despaired its recovery the return of the money is not significant it is as if he's giving a present already viated the trans it's an important footnote here because I was wondering like how would we know how do we know if someone discovered that they lost something right so how do I know if the owner of the airpods knows that it fell out of his car yet you know and like he knows oh I was in the parking lot of six FL two hours ago here that we assume that person checks his pockets and knows of his but if you know that he doesn't know yet that you're lost that's when it's even though he might eventually he he will certainly eventually to you understand wow okay Z call if the finder takes the dinner not the dinner but dinner before the owner dispares of its return with the intent of returning it after the owner despair then the guy decides to keep it then he's only over there on not doing the positive commandment which is to return it if he waits and does not notify the owners but doesn't take it until the owners become aware and then they're Mish and then takes it he transgresses only the Commandment you may not ignore it and the same applies in all simar situation [Music] a person who sees a Cella or another coin drop from even three people read the footnote seven what does you mean even three people in other words certainly if the coin dropped from fewer than three from one person or maybe two people finder would be obligated to return it even if it dropped from three he's obligated to do so right so he sees a coin dropped from a group of three people even when there isn't A's worth each of them he is obligated to return it re that they might all be partners in business and one may have been willing to forgo his share in favor of a colleague thus that person has a share in the Lost article worth more than a proton test when a person sees a dinner fall from E into sand or into dust and escaped the colleague's vision it's as if he fell into the sea or into a river and belongs to the finder for the owner despars of its recovery since it does not have a mark by which it can be identified even if you saw the original owner bring a sifter to search for lost the owners can that have given up hope he is searching out of Wishful Thinking is what other Seekers search in the dust although they have not lost anything in the hope that they will find what someone else has lost the owner is searching such a manner it's not that he has dispar of the recovery of his mother that's not the way to go on right as if we're sifting through the S like maybe I'll find idea to to find it like to search for it like a lost object means you don't give up following rules apply when a person finds a seller in the marketplace the colleague finds him and tells him in his mind it is new it comes from this in this country and it was issued by this and this King indeed even if he says my name was written on it his words are of no consequence and the finder is not obligated to return it the rationale is that marks on a coin are not accepted as a Simon because we can assume that a coin will be used for spending so just because I wrote on a on a on a coin something so I might go buy a gumball from a gumball machine and then uh yeah thus we can say that it was his but he spent it and it fell from the possession of another person since the marks on a coin are not relied upon as means of identification as soon as a person realizes that a coin has fallen he is May therefore it becomes the property of the finder good Olive when a person finds an article that does not possess a mark by which it can be identified next to an article that possesses such a mark the finder is obligated to announce the discovery of both articles that the owner of the article which possesses the mark by which it be identified comes and takes his article and says that he lost only this article the find acquires the article lacking the mark by which it can be identified do base identify totally spaced up sorry the following L apply when a person finds an earwar an earwar utensil or any other type of K that is made in the stand their manner new utensils are found they are acquired by the finder for they are late to dinner and there is no difference between one and another and thus is no way of identifying them similarly the owner cannot identify these Earth andwar utensils he does not know whether this jar or this vile is his or if it belongs to someone else if however the utensil the earthware utensils have been in the owner's possession when it said perod I become familiar to his eye the finder is obligated to announce their discovery [Music] a t SCH will come and Al I cannot identify this Mar this utensil Sim I can recognize it as own oblig to show it to him the scholar claims to recognize it and says I to him this help me I got AE picture in space pict I when does the above apply like what kind of Torah scholar are we talking about to a refined Sage who does not tell any falsehoods except to promote peace which which doesn't even mean to say falsehoods it means that he doesn't say the full truth which typically in the laws of of speaking you're not allowed to not say the full truth you need to say the truth but what we mean here is that a falsehood for the sake of Peace means holding back certain information for the sake of peace or with regard to the mppa that he is studying which which they're also allowed to do this way they don't get quizzed by people or bothered by people the bed that he slept on he's allowed to say that he that he didn't sleep in a certain bed or that he whatever or the house in which he stays those are the things that he's allowed to bend the truth for oh what do we mean okay we're about to find out what does it mean that he's allowed to bend the truth for those things if he was studying and he said he's studying so that he wouldn't be asked about need laws right he doesn't want to start getting interrogated by people he slept in one bed but said that he slept in another because he he's worried that maybe someone will see that there's signs of seminal emission in that bed and that's embarrassing he stay it's also like kind of Unbecoming for a for a Torah scholar he stayed at ruan's home and said that he stayed at shim so that other people don't go in trouble ruin he made peace between two people and added and subtracted from the statements each one of them made to heighten their feelings of closeness right that's what it means to take a peace such deceptions are permitted you up if however Witnesses came and testified that he made other false statements then there is no obligation to return an article that he claims to have recognized the only way to be obligated to return this if a person comes to you with a Simon and says specific Simon go for it whenever a person finds an article that appears to have been Cally played down is forbidden for him to touch it this applies whether or not as a mark by which can it can be identified rational that perhaps the owner of the article left it there until he returns thus if the finder takes it he will have ill treated the owner if the article does not have a mark by which it can be identified he has purposely caused his college financial loss for the article does not have a Mark that will enable it to be identified return even if it hasn't Mark he has red him for he has troubled him to search for the article unidentified by its marks therefore Sur to for the to touch it unless it appears to have fallen even if the finder is in doubt and does not know whether the article was lost or placed down he should not touch it if he dress and took it it's forbidden to return it to its place if it is an article that does not have a mark by which it can be identified the finder acquires it he is not obligated to return it wow um whenever a person takes an article that can be identified with a mark whether originally it has been placed down or has dropped whether or is to announce his recover Discovery what is Me by an article that appears to have been tally placed down if a person finds a finds a donkey or cow pasturing on the road during the day or he finds a k buried in the garbage sheep he should not touch them for it says in theour bu that commands the return of lost speaks of an ox or a sheep throwing astray in the way however he found a d with his dear over turn the cow running through the vineyard or a utensil line openly in the garbage sheet it is considered a lost article it should be taken and its Discovery announced is it I'm just thinking you know funny because I always see these signs for airpods in 770 lost airpods lost this lost that sometimes it's a watch sometimes it's a cell phone whatever but like it's so silly cuz 770 I think is like a pretty classic place it's a classic example of a place where like just cuz you see air on a table and there's no one there right now like they someone knows that they're right there like someone was just learning he went to get a different safer one of them is probably in his ear with him you know like and then someone's like oh and then then he goes and an the poor guy needs to go and search for him any giml if one sees a donkey or a cow pastoring in an ordinary place and manner at night the animal is considered lost because typically they don't have free pasture at night time if you saw the animal pasturing at Twilight or at dawn for three consecutive days that's like times is I guess that maybe it still would be free but if it was for three consecutive days then it's considered loss it should be taken and it's Discovery announced following laws apply when a person sees a cow running down a road first thing you do is take out your phone take take some videos yeah your friends be like whoa look at this kidding if it's facing the city it's not considered a lost article if it's not facing the city it is considered lost article yeah I guess if a person finds a cow pasturing Among The Vineyards he is obligated to return the animal to its owner because of the damage that will be done to the property that cows don't belong in in fine land like a Vineyard therefore The Vineyards belong to to a gentile the animal is not considered lost there's no obligation to return I guess because there's no obligation to protect [Music] that I don't know or maybe there's a cust well actually it doesn't say why does it translated as Gentile says oh probably still Gentile animal is not considered a lost and there's no obligation to return it if he suspects that perhaps the Gentile will kill the animal when he finds it because it's spoiled his Vineyard then it is considered a lost article and it should be taken and its Discovery announced okay the following rules apply if a person finds a cow in a if it's found Beyond the shabas of the city has obligated to return it it was pasturing in the grass or located in a barn that is neither a Totally Secure Place nor Farm nor one from where it will definitely flee the finder should not touch it this is not a lost article if you found a garment or an axe at the side of a wall he should not touch them if you found them in a thorough Fair he should take them and announce their Discovery the same applies in all similar situation similar instances V a person finds young doves does whose wings are tied together and they are hopping behind the stone fence of wooden fence on the lane in the field he should not touch them since it's possible that their owner left them there if however he takes them they become his property if they were found tied with a unique KN as a mark of identification the finder I'm aware the finder is obligated to announce your Discovery similarly if you found them located in the F place he all an Discovery for the place with what's a ban Barn maybe I mean few I didn't you call me once I don't call go upstairs listen now this is the way you got talk to me what's what's not if I I don't know something important so you pick up a second what before you time it's the third time third time what I'm going to say I'm going to say okay because I'm not going to I'm not going to argue with you I don't think it's if I'm calling you three times you can pick up I didn't see that you called me three times you called me I called you once right and you knew it was me so obviously was something important no no no this he's also important I was already late to this huh whatever okay take is everything is everything okay no everything's okay just you're very every time you're very CL I don't know I don't I can't tell if you're joking or not but I'm not joking it looks like you're serious I am you have no fun um I'm gonna I'm just gonna make a protein shake really quickly and I'll be upstairs it's not open Benny it's not open this is like not the way to do [Music] this know it's not the first time you know it's not the second time really I would love to sit with you you have to sit with and uh anding about whatever is going on I don't know like why you're so upset [Music] not [Music] just I'm just mixing it up it's a little difficult because it's like powdery but ready [Music] I have a class here I don't think we could learn they're in middle of class whatever bro I know what he's so upset about that what okay I'll shut this that was a fun show B [Music]