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Are we ready to move on? | Journey to Success - Episode 2
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Join us on our Journey to Success, a series for effective dating for singles. In this practical and comprehensive workshop, Mrs. Fraidy Darabaner provides guidelines to consider when dating someone, essential dating practices, and important qualities to look for in a potential marriage partner.
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Hello and welcome back to the second
session of the Rebbitson's
dating coaching. It's my pleasure to be
here again and I hope everyone had a
wonderful month. Um last time we ended
off speaking about the first and second
date where it's just very basic um just
getting to know them on a very basic
level. And today we're going to talk
about and move on um you know more like
the fourth and fifth date where we
really um close up the head part of
dating and close up that intellect part
and then move on to the heart stage. Um
so um when a girl gets to the fourth or
fifth stage and everything's checking
off um I have a checklist and we call it
the five husband good criteria checklist
and these five things are a must in
order for you to move on. So we will go
through this checklist and I will share
it with you. And if you can answer a
resounding yes to all these things, then
you as a girl dating and me as the
mentor can feel so confident that this
boy is a wonderful boy. He will make a
wonderful husband, a wonderful father
and so confidently you can move on. So
let's start. The first thing that I will
want to hear a very big yes is do you
enjoy spending time with him? Do you
enjoy being with him? Do you like
yourself when you're with him? Now,
we're not talking about the,
you know, the outside appearance. It's
it's the internal feeling of being with
him. And really, this is the attraction
piece. And believe it or not, um, when
we feel good being with a boy and and
and we feel comfortable and we enjoy
spending time to him, it's actually the
nishama pulling each other, both of you
together. Um, it's actually the nishama
pulling you together. So that would be
number one. Do you enjoy spending time
with him? And I would need to hear
100% before I would let you move on. If
a girl would tell me, I don't know.
Sometimes I'm really not sure. I don't
know.
Most of the time maybe, but really
sometimes I really don't. Um I don't
know if I would push this further to
say, okay, go out on a fifth date. I I I
I think that that is such a um major
part of moving on that if if by the
fourth and fifth date you still don't
enjoy spending time with him, I would
end it there and then move on because it
really doesn't benefit anyone to just
keep going out, going out, going out.
You know, it just causes too much
unnecessary pain um when eventually it's
going to end anyhow. So, this is a big
one. We want to make sure that you enjoy
spending time. Um the second very
important thing is is this boy that
you're going out with a growing person?
Um and a growing person could include
many many things. Um it could be someone
who
you know works on his mid. It could be
someone who has a mentor. It could be
someone that um realizes that he's not
up to his full potential yet and
realizes that he still has so much to to
you know improve so to speak and grow.
Um, we really want to make sure that
this person that we're dating and
hopefully, you know, going to marry, um,
is someone who is able to receive, um,
influence, meaning, you know, we can't
have someone that it's his way or the
highway. We want to make sure that he
can accept someone else's
um influence whether it's, you know,
moving to a new city once you're married
or um talking about schools that your
children might go to. Um it can't just
be his way. He has to be open to
listening to someone else's advice and
taking that advice. Um and that is as
well a growing person. Again, I would
want to hear a resounding yes. Yes, he
he is so growing. He tells me about his
kabooas that he has and he tells me
about the character traits that he's
working on. That is a wonderful thing.
And I would even ask for an example um
for the girls to share with me like what
example could you share that you saw
that he is a growing person. So that's
that's number two. Um you want to make
sure he's a growing person. The third
thing is you want to make sure that he
has excellent midos, excellent character
traits. Um everything else, externals
and money and all those other things
come and go. Um but character traits,
midos
that is the essence of the person and
it's so important to make sure that
those midi are there and the three most
important that I'm going to talk about
are as follows. The first one is
honesty. Um, honesty is a big one and
whilst you're dating, first, second,
third, fourth date. Um, it's something
that you should be looking out for. Like
even little white lies, um, you know, if
he said, "Sorry, I can't pick you up
then. I'm not going to be home." And
then you realized he was home. I mean,
I, you know, I don't want to be negative
about the boys, but just just little
white lies. um you know, you just want
to look out for red flags because
honesty, as you all know, is a huge
aspect to marriage and and that's a
biggie. Um the second one is um
positivity. Um living with a positive
person is so much easier than not. So,
you want to look out for someone who's
positive about life. Um, you want to
pick up patterns. If he continuously
complains about the traffic in his town,
um, complains about work, complains
about his family, um, you want to make
sure that he's a positive person. Your
life would be so much easier, um, if
he's positive. Um, and the third thing
is, um, is he a giving person? And that
means like is he able to
give outside of himself?
And the way to track this and see if
he's a given giving person obviously
would be, you know, does he offer you a
drink? Does he make sure you know that
you're not too cold? Does he offer you
to go inside if it's too cold? But even
further than that is um for him to think
outside of himself. Like if the previous
date before you had mentioned to him
that you're going on a job interview, um
if he would bring that up and say, "Oh,
how was that job interview?" Or you had
mentioned that you had a wedding. How
was that wedding? You know, did you
enjoy it? Um that shows that he can
think outside of himself and think about
other people and that's a very very
important
um trait in being married. Um
so that that would be the third one
which would be midos. Um the fourth one
would be are you on the same basic
hashgraphic level. Um this is important
because um you know sometimes you can
have two such different different ideas
of of either where to live or how to
bring up the kids and what to allow in
the home and and and it's a big one and
it's something that really needs to be
discussed. And if at this point um you
know when when you're going through
these five good criterias for a good
husband um you haven't spoken and gotten
to that hashkuffic discussion yet um it
would be a good time to go back and
you know discuss this very important
topic because again you just you know
you don't have to be on the same page um
but I think it's important
hashkuffically to be in the same chapter
you know you certainly don't want to be
in a different book. Um so um so that
that's something that that's very
important. Um that's number four to be
on the same hashkuffic level. Um and the
fifth one is you want to make sure that
he is able and stable. So what does this
mean? You want to make sure he's a
responsible person. Um you want to make
sure he's kept the same job for a good
good number of years. Um he stayed in
the same yeshiva. He has the same
friends for many years. Um, you know, if
you would hear he jump from yes is
yeshiva to yeshiva. He jumps from work
to work. Um, that doesn't, you know,
really show that he's so stable and
responsible. Um, so that's something
that you really want to make sure that
he's able to, you know, support to be
responsible to be a responsible husband.
Um, if he passes all these five things,
I mean, he's a great guy. I mean, that's
really a great great guy. And you really
can feel so so so confident that you're
ready to move on because I mean, what
more can we ask for? I it it really, you
know, covers so much of a good person
and a good personality. And um, you
really really could feel confident. And
you know, I always tell my clients,
don't worry, I I'm tough. I'm very
tough. I will not let you move on. You
don't have to worry. If he does not pass
these five things, you won't be moving
on. So, it's really like a security and
a real um you know, direction of okay,
now we can move on. Um
just for your information um when a boy
is dating and he you know comes up to
the fourth and fifth stage we also um go
through this checklist of you know five
good wife criteria. um everything is the
same besides for the last one um instead
of able and stable. Um it would be is
she able to receive and and this is a
big one um because clearly marriage is
all about giving and receiving. And on a
date, you know, at least he wants to see
that the girl is able to
receive his compliments. um
a drink um his help um and it is hard.
It is hard for girls sometimes to do
this. I mean we know ourselves. Someone
gives us a compliment and say ah you
know oh you lost so much weight. Ah I'm
so fat or oh I love your dress. Ah I
just bought it from some cheap store.
You know like it's such a art to be able
to um you know say thank you. I really
appreciate it. That was so nice of you.
And boys particularly
really love to see this confidence and
positivity in the girl that they're
dating. And you don't have to feel oh
gosh this is so weird like I'm I'm going
to feel you know it sounds so um you
know excited that he's giving me
something a compliment. You don't have
to feel that because again like we spoke
about the biggest attraction to a boy is
if a girl is confident and positive and
and and he wants to be able to give and
he wants to be able for it to be
received nicely and you know with a
smile and a thank you and it makes the
boy feel so special that he's taking
care of you and it really furthers the
relationship in a very big way. Um,
I actually, you know, would recommend
you girls to to practice practice
everywhere. When you're on the airplane
and someone offers to take down your
your luggage for you, look at him and
say, "Thank you. I really appreciate
that. That was so nice of you." Or if
you're by the shabas table and someone
helps you with something or serves you,
"Thank you." like really practice so
that when you're out on a date, you
really could receive nicely, which
really really helps the boys like you
better and want the relationship to
continue. So, that's a little cheat
sheet for you girls. Um, and I figured
I'd let you know that very important
trick. Um,
okay. So now that um now that you know
we we feel confident that he's a good
husband, he could be a good husband, um
the the the head part, the intellect
part really all makes sense. Um
everything checks off. Now we're ready
to move on to the next stage, which is
the heart stage. Um
it's very hard especially for from girls
to u move on to this emotional stage
this emotional piece. Um from girls you
know are kind of taught sometimes to you
know just cover their emotions. Um but
in order to date successfully and in
order to create a very good relationship
obviously this is something that we have
to do as hard as it is and and um it is
just so so so important to do um just
like babies uh before they walk it is so
important for them to crawl um if they
miss that stage a lot of PTs and OT's
will tell you that they're missing such
basic um basic elements ments to their
being because they missed out that very
important stage. And so too with this,
we really have to go in the correct
order and stage and make sure that we
include this piece of emotion and um
that emotional connection so that the
relationship is a good solid
relationship. And in fact um many
divorced women will say that whilst they
were dating they completely skipped the
stage. it just you know never came up
this emotional um attraction this
emotional connection and they skip this
stage. So so it really really is a very
very important step. Now the bad news is
is that um you girls are the one that's
going to initiate this step and the step
is as follows. In order to to love um a
girl has to show vulnerability. a girl
has to um be vulnerable to this boy. Um
and the way to do that is to um think
about something that you know your best
friend knows about you and only she is
the only one that knows about you or
maybe just your sister in the whole
entire world knows about you. Or it
doesn't have to be even such a um you
know such a big secret but something
that that you have struggled with or you
had a hard time with and overcame. um
and
you should you know pick that thing and
bring it up on a date and share your
experience about that. So ide um
different examples would be um maybe if
you moved to a new town like when you
were 18 years old um something maybe
when your grandmother died you had a
hard time with um maybe something that
happened in school that was very
difficult for you and a real challenge.
Um,
this is something that you have to bring
up. And now girls might say, "Oh, no,
no, no, no. I'm not starting to bring up
these things. What if he dumps me after
this?" Like, I don't want to open up to
him. And what if he dumps me? But, but,
you know, we say the expression, "No
pain, no gain." I mean, the only way for
the relationship to further itself is to
go through these steps and these stages
of relationships. So, you know, if if
you don't ever come to this, then
there's no way the relationship can
excel. But if you do, then at least 50%
the relationship will excel and
hopefully end in marriage. Um,
no one is perfect. No one is perfect.
And a boy doesn't want to marry a
perfect girl. He doesn't want to marry a
mannequin. Um, he wants to marry someone
real. And everyone real has something to
share that they struggled with or
something that they, you know, had a
hard time with. And it's um it's very
important to share um to share this um
because at this point you're good
friends already. And good friends do
share their their struggles with each
other. Um, this step really enables the
boy to feel that you trust him and
you're allowing him to carry your
struggle. Um, I it is it is such a
powerful step for a boy to feel that you
trust him enough and feel safe enough to
share this this struggle with him. Um,
and it's it's one of the biggest, you
know, leaps in the relationship. You
know, when we spoke about the steps, the
staircase, and we take step by step, by
doing this, you're like jumping two,
three steps at a time. You're really
excelling the relationship. Um,
okay. So, so, so, so we do know that we
have to share something and we want to
share something. Um, the question now is
how do we share it? Um, so we want to
make sure that we're not just
factsharing.
Um, I have diabetes. Here's my doctor's
number. Um, that would just be fact
sharing. We want to really make sure
that we're feeling sharing. Um, so you
could say something like, you know, when
I was 14, I started, you know, not
feeling good. We went to doctors and you
know it was a very hard time in my life
but my parents were so supportive and
you know go through the whole story of
events and tell them how you've grown
from it tell them how you've grown and
always important to end off on a
positive note that you know this is what
Hashem wanted from me and and and I have
grown and I've just become stronger from
it. Um so so you know again important to
to feel share um as opposed to fact
share. Um another example would be um
when I was 10 my mother gave birth to a
down syndrome baby or you could say when
I was 10 um you know my mother gave
birth to a down syndrome baby and it was
it was it was obviously so hard in the
beginning. We didn't know what would be
um and you know we went to lots of
doctors and it was it was just so
unsettling but he has been the sunshine
of our life and I can't imagine living
without him
etc. So, so again, when you share, you
want to include emotion. You want to
give him the whole the whole picture,
not just the fact. Um, and
you know, again, going back to that
thing like I I just can't do it. I I I
can't become vulnerable and then and
then he's going to dump me. Um, number
one, you rather know this now that he's
emotionally healthy and you're able to
have an emotional connection with him
than find out after the wedding, right?
So, so, so now is a good time to do it
so that you know that you can move on.
You want to know that you connect
emotionally and you want to make sure
that you know he he he understands you
and you know he doesn't just say well
that's life you know and give no
compassion or no feeling. Um this is a
time when you really want to see that he
can hold your struggle and feel for you
and really really emotionally connect.
So it is a very important um part of the
emotional
connection.
Um
[Applause]
um okay. So how does a girl bring this
up? Um what's a good way for a girl to
bring this up being that it's your job
to to move on to this stage? So, you
could say um something like um I've
never shared this before, but I, you
know, want to share something with you.
Or I've actually never shared this on a
date before, or I've actually never
shared this with a boy before. And
again, it's just such a propelling
um step to um excelling the relationship
because the boy just feels so confident
and good that you're trust him and you
feel safe enough to share this. And um
obviously again if he just throws it
away and and or he you know doesn't give
you much um attention for it or thought
about it or comment about it and he just
moves on to the next topic and just say
oh well then then that's someone that
you really have to look into and see if
he has the emotional intellect that you
are looking for. Um, okay. So, the
question was, how many things should be
we sharing at a time? And I would say
just one. Um, you know, on the fifth,
fourth, fifth date, if that's what
you're up to, just one. Um, share,
explore it together. And what's going to
happen most probably is on the next
date, the boy will share one of his
struggles or issues that he had growing
up. And that would be your chance to
show him how you can, you know, hold his
emotional um challenge that he had. And
it would be your chance to show how much
you care and and um you know, share in
his challenge. Um but I wouldn't
overload it at all. I mean, at the fifth
date where we're holding now, just just
one.
Right. So the over here, right over
here. Oh, the Mrs. Sarah Broski's
question was would it be the girl the
would the girl be the only one to bring
up this vulnerability? And the answer is
as I said before I said I you know that
was the bad news that yes, the girl in
this case is the one to bring it up
first. um it's the girl's um nature to
bring it up first and most most likely
then or on the next date the boy will
share something that he's gone through
um that you as the girl would be able to
you know emotionally join him with.
So if the girl if the boy brings it up
first and she's not prepared for it. Um,
so that's that's where the dating
mentors come in and and and you know,
prep the girls and train the girls that
you really want to be able to, you know,
listen and show that you care and
her reaction should be the same.
Yes.
Sure. Valid. Absolutely. Mr. Sari, your
reaction should be, as we explained with
the boy, to validate it and to hold it
and share in his experience and show
that you really, really care. Yes, 100%.
Sure.
Yes. Um, someone asked if we can have a
recap of the five good criteria husband
list. And, um, I will give you a acronym
to remember it. Um, I was going to say
it at the end, but thank you. I could
say it now. Um, it's the, uh, word
games. G A Ms.
games. So G would be is he a growing
person? A would be is he able and
stable?
M would be does he have good midday?
E would be is he
um
sorry I'll get back to E. Um S is are
you on the same hashic level? and E I'm
sorry.
The thing is, is he able um to to give
of himself? Is he able to see outside of
himself and be able to give of himself?
But I will get back.
No. Um
thank you. I'm sorry. Okay. So that I'm
sorry it was the first one. Yes. Enjoy
spending time together. I'm sorry. So E
was enjoy spending time together and S
was same hashkuffic level. Okay. So
that's games easy to remember. You want
to,
you know, be on the good games of life
and this this would be it. Okay. Um
Okay. a very um very important
um part of moving into the emotional and
heart stage um would be being able to
give a compliment at this time. It's
very important to be able to give a
compliment. Um you know, we're not
talking about a external compliment. Oh,
I like your shoes. You know, um your
glasses are nice. We're talking about a
compliment where it really honestly
makes the person feel good, like I
really enjoyed spending time with you or
I've never had such an enjoyable date
before or I was so amazed how calm you
were, you know, when that whole mixup
happened with your credit card or, you
know, you were so relaxed when when when
we were sitting in all that traffic and
we had to get home. You know, it really
amazes me. So, so, so a compliment on
their character trait is a very big
mover in moving this relationship
further.
Um, so that's another thing to keep in
mind. Um so again you know for the heart
stage obviously there's a lot more but
we can't cover everything but um two
very biggies is
to show your vulnerability and let him
hold it for you and explore it with you
and give a compliment because that
really does excel the relationship.
Right. So oh let me repeat the question.
Um the question was big things like
diabetes and um down syndrome baby
should be known before the fifth date. I
mean that that that altogether you know
is a controversy question and and that
you know you could ask your rv and so
forth but but that's not what this is
about. This is a he could know that you
have diabetes, but you're just sharing
your experience with him and going
through all the details and the emotions
and how hard it was for you when you
were in school and everyone else was
able to eat whatever they wanted, but
you had to be careful, but you really
grew from it. And again, the same thing
with the Down Syndrome baby. I mean, he
can know that, but but you just want to
be able to share that experience with
him. And that's what it's about. It's
about him being able to feel your
struggle, your pain through what you
went through. So I think it's two
separate things.
Um
okay. So um
so now we move on. Um, you know, we we
we've we've, you know, explored a little
bit of the heart stage, the emotional
stage, and and we really, you know,
connected and we really let down our
barriers and and let down our guard.
What happens when there's rejection?
What happens, you know, afterwards when
the boy says no? Um, unfortunately,
there's no there's no way around it. I
mean, this this this is the course of
dating. Um, and this is what it is. Yep.
It's not pleasant. Um, but but you know,
if we don't date and we don't date, you
know, su successfully where we include
the heart stage, then you're never going
to get any further. Um, like we said, no
pain, no gain. Like you have to, you
know, you have to take risks. And yes,
it it it is hard. It is hard to get
rejected. But but but but that's the
world of dating that we live in. And um
it's just something that we have to that
we have to go through. Um a boy and girl
should know and and and we all know it,
but it's important for you to know that
going into dating and dating someone
gives you every reason in the world to
say no. Everyone knows you're allowed to
say no. Um you know, you give it a fair
chance and then you're allowed to say
no. Um, and and I bring up this point
because
there are some girls that have a very
very hard time saying no and they just
keep on dragging out the dates and the
dates and and they're just afraid to say
no. Either they're afraid of the not in
a bad way, but they're like, well, she
works so hard and if I say no, maybe she
won't ever read me a shik again. And
that's a scary thing, but but a that's
not true. She will read you a
again. Um but but we really really have
to feel confident and be strong and be
able to give that no when we know that
this is not going to go any further. I
mean if we turn the tables around and
and I would tell you well the boy's
really afraid to say no. So he keeps on
saying yes and just dragging you week
after week after week. You wouldn't want
that. You would feel horrible. Um so the
same thing. Yes, it hurts a no. But in
this world of dating, it is very very
important to be able to give that
confidently and and strongly. And
sometimes um I need to really, you know,
role play with the girl to be able to
call the shot and
give yourself a twominut, you know, time
frame and really say, I I really
appreciate it. He was a great guy, but
he's really not for me. and really stick
to your two-minute I I discussed this
with my mentor. I discussed this with my
parents. We are it it you know you
really appreciate everything she did for
you but it is a no and you really have
to have that empowerment in you to be
able to say no because no one wants to
be dragged out for no reason. Um you
know so much more pain is involved and
no one gains from it. So that's
something that um is very important to
know. Um
the fifth date. Um sorry, someone asked
a question. Should you end it if you're
not feeling emotionally connected by the
fifth date? um if he showed no emotion
at all and
didn't you know give you any any comment
um on what you shared um that would be a
big red flag. I would probably try it
one more time and see the pattern. So um
yes, so I I I I you know I would give it
for sure one more time. And as Mrs.
Sarah Browski just said very importantly
this is where the shhatan comes in and
the girl can go back to the shhatan and
say listen you know I just feel that
he's not emotionally connecting um and
this is a message that should be given
over to the boy and it could be he just
you know wasn't aware that that was his
place and you know it's something to be
learned and a boy could have it in but
you know the first time it could be he
was taken a back and not prepared for it
so definitely definitely give him you
know another try um you know but if you
see a continuous ous pattern of, you
know, when you talk about your life,
your family, your struggles, and he just
waves it off and, you know, really shows
no interest at all. Um, you know, that
that might be a reason to say this boy
doesn't have emotional intellect and,
you know, might not be for you. But
again, everything needs to be discussed
and worked through. um you know nothing
nothing
rash or um you know everything should
take time and be worked through and um
come to you know a a a clear answer.
Okay. So the question was there are many
different aspects of hashguffer.
What do we have to make sure that
actually matches? Um
I I I would think um
you know you could you could speak about
um what type of place you would want to
live. like you know if some if the boy
wants to live in Alabama where there's
no Jewish anything on there and you
really really want a Jewish you know
community and a Jewish school for your
kids schools um you know if he would
want to send them to you know some
affiliated Jewish school and you want a
real um a real Jewish school. So these
are things um that that would probably
um be important to talk about. Um I
think maybe technology would be a big
thing like um you know would you let the
kids watch movies all day in the house
have it open to them open internet you
know some girls might feel absolutely
not and some boys well I don't care you
know yeah I don't mind I mean that's a
big thing I mean you know um
I think everyone probably has their own
thing that's important to them um
but I think that you know as throughout
the conversation ations things can come
up where I I think you would be able to
gauge if you were on that same
hashkuffic you know chapter or even book
but you know certainly you don't want to
be in a different book um you know if
you're going to cover your hair or
you're not going to cover your hair um
after marriage I think that's a big
thing you know tas um that would be a
big thing um really depends what's
important to you um and and so forth and
you know a lot of the times if you're
dating a person within the same um
community as you or the same circles you
know you're affiliated with the same
shul or the same schools you know most
of the time you would know what
hashkuffic level there are on um if it's
something that you really really don't
know and you don't know where he's
holding that would be where you would
want to ask questions and you know see
what works for him and what doesn't okay
so we were talking about um you know
really being able to say know when when
it's really not for you. Um my
suggestion is like once you're past the
fourth or fifth date, I would say fifth,
fifth, sixth. Um I think it's only
decent um that you would tell the boy
directly um that you think it's not for
you. Um obviously you would sandwich it
and package it, you know, start off with
praise, um you know, and what you liked
in him and then just say you just don't
think it's going to go any further and
end off with a braha. um because you
know you don't want to hurt the boy. Um
you did spend so much time together and
personally I think it's it's just a nice
thing to do. Um you know to to
end it that way. Um
and how does it feel when you're
rejected? You know yeah it's not fun but
but but that's the course of dating.
That's what it is. And um it's part of
the process that we call dating. Um
that that really you know it could be
Mrs. Serowski said it you know it's like
cliche to say you know hindsight is 2020
and and you'll look back and you'll say
oh thank goodness it didn't work out and
and really rejection is is really a
braha from Hashem. It really is.
Rejection is really a braha from Hashem
and it really should be clarity for you.
It really should be clarity that he was
the one to say no and obviously Hashem
has decided that this is not a good
match. Um rejection you know doesn't
mean that's it. You know rejection just
means redirection and you know move move
on to to the next potential shak. Um and
um you know so so really it's just all
part of the course of dating. But um you
know it it's okay. It's okay. It's it's
part of it's part of life. And and just
a nice thing to remember about you know
being able to say no. Um a nice little
expression is saying no to someone else
is really saying yes to myself because
it's giving you the opportunity to move
on. and you know start start a new
relationship which hopefully will end in
marriage. Um one last thing that I'd
like to share which is a nice tip. Um
the biggest mistake that boys make
um probably at this stage or maybe a
little later is where are we holding?
And that's like way way way too too much
for the girls to hear. Um I I once saw a
very cute um
um
like caption where there was a a boy and
a girl sitting, you know, drinking tea
together and he says to her, "Hi, my
name is Bob. What's yours?" And she's
like, "Whoa, that's way too quick." You
know, like the boys are always ahead of
the girls and um that's just the way it
is. Um, so when the boy says, "So where
are we holding?" You know, that that
that's a big mistake. But even a bigger
mistake is for the girl to answer, "I
need more time." Because that is so
vague for a boy. And that so doesn't
tell him anything. what you need to
answer and what you should answer
because um it's okay to need more time
is I just need a few more dates just to
feel you know that much more comfortable
and ready to go ahead like number the
dates I just need a few more dates just
to feel ready to move ahead um so that's
a very important tip whilst dating at
this stage fifth six you know when the
boy would want to know where you're
holding and at this point you know he's
probably already calling you to work out
the dates on your own. Um, so there is a
lot more communication going on. Um, so
that's just something to remember so
that you don't fall into those girls
that make the biggest mistake in dating.
What if the girl is ahead of that
concern?
Not necessarily. I'm sorry. The question
was, what if the girl is ahead of the
boy? Um, not necessarily. There are some
boys that are, you know, very reserved
and take things very, very slow. You
know, it's not a black and white. Boys,
you know, for the most part, um, boys
usually are ahead of the girls, but of
course, you're always going to have your
yit hakls, your um, few individuals that
are different than that. Um, the main
thing is to know is that the girl is not
jumping to the 20th step, you know, too
quickly. You know, you want to make sure
that the girl is taking her time step by
step and only going to the next step
once she feels comfortable on the step
that she is. Like a girl, you know,
sometimes they really do jump to the
20th step and that's dangerous and it's
damaging and it does not build a
relationship.
The question was if you're if you've
dropped the shad and you're setting up
the dates yourself, should you still say
no in person? I think of course you
should say no in person because now you
know you're communicating yourselves. Of
course this is of course the time that
you should say no in person. It's just
it's it's just a nicer more ment.
Now, obviously, you're not going to tell
him what he did wrong and why it's not
good because that's painful for a boy
unless you know, unless you really
really feel that it could help the boy
or maybe through the shot, you could say
what your reasons are, but only if it's
going to help the boy um be a better
dator and um ultimately, you know, have
a better relationship. But so the
question was what if all the five
criterias are good and they check off
but something's still bothering you in
the personality aspect. Um so the five
criterias are still in the head stage.
So definitely move on because then
you're going to move to the heart stage
which connects you much much further.
Um, if you did the heart stage and you
still are not enjoying being with him or
enjoying his personality, then yes, then
you might want to end it. Um, because
the heart stage um
what it does is it attracts you closer
to each other and it it moves you closer
to each other. But after you know
opening up your heart and you're still
not moved closer together, so then
obviously this might not be for you,
right? So the question was, you know, if
you've said no and and the boy asks you,
what could I do better? Um if if it's
something concrete that you really think
will help for every single girl, a
general thing that will help for every
single girl. So you know, maybe you can
mention it. If you feel uncomfortable,
you can mention it to the Shatan. But if
it was something specific to you that
you just, you know, got nervous from his
personality or you got irked from the
way something, then it's not going to
benefit him in any way. it was just
something specific to you. Um, but if
it's a general thing that every girl,
you know, needs to see in a boy, then
that's something that, you know, you
could let him know. But I I would
probably do it through the um Mrs.
Sarrowski is saying like, you know, if a
girl feels put on the spot, you can
always say, um, I have to think about
it. Um, you know, and I'll get back to
you. And ideally, you know, the shad
should be the one relaying that
information. But again, only if it's
going to help the boy. If it's not going
to help the boy, because, you know,
there's no reason really to say it.
There's no reason to cause pain. Um, you
know, it's only something that's going
to be little to Ellis and help the boy
date better. So just to recap a little
bit um the first series we spoke about
the acriman set um the staircase the
erasing the image and the trusting
yourself trusting your gut. Um here we
spoke about the acriman games which were
the five good criteria list. Um, so I
like to say that if you set yourself up
well in the games of life,
you will have a wonderful marriage and a
wonderful relationship.
Um, okay. It was a pleasure spending
time with you. Um I want to give
everyone a braha that we should
see the ba mikdash being built very very
soon in our days and u msiah should come
and it should be a year of only simas.
Thank you. I guess I mean you could
write down my phone number. My phone
number is 7325342345.
Um, you can call or WhatsApp is usually
the best.
2345.
Thank you, Mrs. Darab Banner. Always a
pleasure to have you here and impart
your dating advice. It's it's fabulous.
And I hope Sashem that uh you'll come
back another time. If we have a lot of
questions that are coming in hopefully
we can address some of those questions
at another session
and um we should be able to share a lot
of su to thank