Bar Mitzvah Discussion - Ask The Rabbi Live with Rabbi Mintz

i have a question about um who um was abraham's son um isaac the first child to um be bar mitzvahed why can't i see who's asking the question what isaac's mom oh yeah i couldn't see you yeah okay now so yeah oh the question i had was um abraham's son isaac was was that the first bar mitzvah that ever occurred in the torah or the first bar mitzvah yeah or who who was the first child to ever be abominable what was my mistake a party you mean or becoming by first by mitzvah well i guess like turning 13 and becoming obligated to follow jewish law well there was nobody obligated to file jewish law at that time because the torah was not given yet so they only had the ability to keep the seven noah was the great abrams to make their earth patrols they kept it on their own because they wanted to keep because they knew it's a good thing but there's no obligation to keep it until the term was given to mount sinai now you brought up an interesting point is there such a thing as by mitzvah by a non-jew a jewish person we say he was obligated at 13 by non-jew most opinions say he becomes obligated before 13. 13 is only a jewish age but a non-jewish person once a child becomes a person with able to understand and choose being good and bad maybe maybe 11 maybe 12 maybe nine it depends on the child they become obligated to keep the laws of the seven laws at that age and by mitts of 13 is only a jewish age of obligation but non-jew says that seven laws have to be kept once a child becomes smart enough knowledgeable enough to know what's going on what right and wrong is what god is what our law is that he's obligated at that time some people have the false impression they think by mitzvah is like a wedding a person doesn't have a wedding he's not married if they don't have a mitzvah party monopoly are not obligated they make a mistake that's a wedding if you don't get married if you don't have a wife give her a ring she's not your wife but a person is 13 he can be in in on mars and nobody's around there's no no schnapps to drink and no cake he is he's 13. he becomes obligated to keep the torah don't need any ceremony wedding needs a ceremony but doesn't need the ceremony but make people make the mistake if i didn't have the ceremony bar mitzvah i'm not bar mitzvah i don't get what i want that's that's that's a that's a very on the un untrue kind of idea people have we make a ceremony by with to show that we're very happy that the child has come to the point in his life where he's comes obligated to keep the laws of the torah so we make a party to show that we're very happy about it but that didn't make him interrupt didn't make the obligation the age made the obligation