ASK OU/YU Seminar - 06. Kosher Q&A

it's my distinct pleasure to introduce our question answer and question answer panel we have this close of having have a sort of national connect who is the CEO davidic administrator of all your kosher joining us and we can act are you there we're not seeing you and also of course Hershel Jacques - Lita who is the pie stick Fidelio as well as I'm sure many of you are familiar I'm sure there's even sees many things tell me them here in the audience today we'll be discussing various questions and answers so just need to wait for the connect to come on and shaft if you cannot meet yourself also that would be great okay perfect okay okay thank you both both have an objective for joining us today for the questions and answers we have several questions that came in before and I'll turn I guess to you know both of you if you want no I can direct it towards either one of you for the questions but thank you very much for taking time out of your busy schedules to be here every connect I know if you had anything you want to start off with no I just want to thank Ellie Elif for doing a fantastic job putting this clover together for the reach students and colo-colo thank you very much okay so I remember connect I guess we'll start with you the question came up with regards to dairy equipment something that we get questions about every day and people want to know how do we determine something's actually dairy or dairy equipment and is it enough to check the ingredients analogy the label see if they know they'll know dairy or there's no more that needs to be done this is a question we get all the time I think you know the question that only gets more than any other question is Oreo cookies pound and the reason for that is that the Oreo cookies have oh you D designation and many of them affect our path so you really have to know the list of which which obvious was initially made in a plant in Chicago and there wasn't time that had both dairy and carve on the same equipment the standard Oreo even those listeners oud is actually in fact path and even dairy equipment but there are lots of different kinds of Oreo so the o you has a list which will make available to you so that at this point in history is the most asked question how do you know something is there or daily equipment which says o UD so the only policy is if it just says o you and doesn't say dairy so then it's generally pal if it's oh you D orphan consumers will s whether it's dairy equipment only because it was only dairy equipment then you can eat it for example immediately after fallacious without waiting six hours so it's not so easy to know because there can be components that are not listed in the ingredient and that could be dairy its including who then did flavor but so though you was always available to accommodate you on and those kind of questions and if you just call the O yolk but be no spam will answer the question through you or other the arts the binnacle coordinator who handles that will get back to you the likelihood is but you can't be certain as if it says you know if you know if you know very often deal it's only dairy equipment which doesn't doesn't necessarily a requirement to make it listed as theory as an allergen so these things really do require further checking okay thank you very much I guess we'll turn to chef there and then every gonna call so if you wanted to pipe in for this and we're getting some questions a lot of to loss Kalyan questions seems to be on people's mind especially now with you know some of the McFaul still being clothes and things like that and the first question we got is of a Jewish owned candy store is selling prepackaged can in a platter that requires to loss Caleb what's the best way to solve this we lost Calum issue and there's also and I would add people point out that certain stores that sell pre titled Caleb would such thing work and no how would that work the obligation to do to be the scale name only applies if it's a clay pseudo let's say buy a suit said that doesn't need to be a Galen or let's say you buy a jewelry metal that doesn't need to it can call me Fitz I mean I made to be you than a pseudo so recent question came up with the cities that if you have four in a store they're selling addresses or they're selling pots and pans so buy them it's not I'm it'll be shil by them it's I'm in this favor they don't have to be table that even if they volunteer and they'll be table it it really won't help only after the customer buys it then then it's I made lucky Lords I made the forks organizer I'm it's abused by FEMA so then you need to be those kingdoms and if you do the treatment and then you'll be the storekeeper will be table that before he sells it in the store it's not I meant to be used that's a sticker finish I know everybody agrees to that but that's they came up with in recent years yeah well what was the first question that you ask what do you know about the thing if we need to ask him if you've got a platter if stone delivered to your house say almost or a candy platter with that I don't know the quarter scale yeah I have I think rabbi gifter wrote this assignment to this mediations mediations damn if you buy again that has one going appease or something so why don't you have to empty out the can right away when you come home you're using using can to hold food in it that's also his Thompson's for food purposes so this video is rights that's considered assumptions but Shelton say if I put the food if I take a fork and a knife when I cut off my eat it that's a sumptuous with the fork and a knife the Columbia say or if I take a frying pan and these people gave them and I fry something in it all right boy let's say a glass container and then I put some food in it so that's a and a clear that needs to well if I buy they can from the story that he has the food in it so that's the food is there sitting there I didn't put it in I'm not eating the food right now from the cans that's called New Hampshire's behavior cause let's say if I buy buy a bottle with chocolate milk in it so the chocolate milk is in is in the bottle that's a glass bottle plastic most assumed here on this unit here in Brewers was Matt when the two kinds of plastic plastic someplace thinking for breaks he can fix and sometimes break he throw with that sometimes he can opt-in sometimes not he thought that the one that can be fixed by melting it and fixing it that didn't eat cinnamon wrap on the most part of all that the plastic was making a scandal so let's say I buy chocolate in a bottle and a glass bottle said let's battle means to scan but the holy Thompson says Bushido as I take the bottle home and I leave it in the refrigerator when I want to drink from the bottle so then that's a really huge Thompson whom they all say so that you shouldn't do you should pour the milk from the glass bottle into a class that you what toy them so let's say I go to the candy store and I buy a glass tray that has candies so that's as tom says baa-baa tosses when I put it on on the table so I'm not doing anything we come here say I take some of the candies out that's I'm not using the clay then you know if you're drinking from a bottle then you're using Bickley become by yourself just take out candies from the container these options are the containers to hold the candies that remain behind the candies that was there that are remaining that I'm not eating those with it that's again as Thompson's to shave your fasting so after you finish eating all the candies and you want to use the CLE again or you finished eating a lot of them and it looks bad it's here if empty you want to put more candies on so then that's already huge stamp shows but cumbias a so then you have to empty out all the candies be turbulent in the mixer Troy McClure has bromine in it the big was open to the public that makes it again anyone who wants can come to Brewers and the beat oval and the maker so just as a follow-up to probably will ask some questions about whether she would just said what about glass wine bottles or if you drink with the straw out of a glass bottle wine bottles also its assumptions JB I'll toss it unless you're drinking from the bottle but you don't drink from the bottle pour out some of the wine and the wine that remains behind that's called the assumptions that chez Doucette if you drink you empty it out all the wine and now you want to pour in more wine in the bottle you want to use the bottle for other mash games and now be kind of how about that because Dom says before me I say so that you need to be the scaling foot okay so having your neck you know once the Shiva spoke now about 12 km a lot of questions are coming through are being asked what's the earliest policy with regards to our coins feels kalyan by caterers restaurants hotels or even companies especially those calum that for example are not possible to really put into a mikvah so the the Oh your policy is that actually I into this Babylon I came because before we make a bet that restaurants and so on that we require and cater to require Fila scaling for jewish-owned and we don't do align the cooler that is called CLE sudo go should include CLE spoiler and we require in all of them Fila scale them if it's a clean that look you know jewish-owned and you can't be joyful it's very large asunder that the incision show for now if you can sell a hey look of it to a guy so it won't be ultra quiet Lila and that on occasion we've had to do that but on a regular basis that's not proper that the occator has a lot of forks and knives and and frying pans and everything it's gonna make this twist but then offer in order to partner myself in the midst what fearless game so that's how Rama to party so from amid so that's not right there's a bits for the do a lot skin if you can typically is so gigantic you can't fit it into the mix and then you make but but if the alternative is to be much reaction to take it to the make the rivers time's the river is good for tweeners kill him not all movies then it's not right to do our Rama to parties so from a mitzvah even if it's only let's say we have some Twitter scheming and glares Calum is only made their abundant most of the person assumes only with the red bonnet so some say Haram is moot on their abundance you never do Haram on their Rice's the pastor says diaramas mother and their opponents and he said there a bond that emits with their opponent if there's a mitzvah bond and you do a rummy make I should choose with a mockery so the end of the day you didn't do the mixer that's not right so I guess having an active Shafter at what point do we determine that feels Kingdom is not necessary but feliz Calum is too mean it is necessary if it's Cleese suger that you're using for you know it has a contact with the food so acquires trailer and as I said we only you know if it's impossible to do for example it's a very very big flea that's actually sure knows that you can sell a trailer to a guard but otherwise otherwise we were always toggle Calum we had recently a Shila that there was a CLE this was an eye this was in a in room owner in a hotel whose face our program and Wanda they were Tori with all the Kaelyn with a tremendous tear her and some of the key a limb to somehow Sonny got mixed up they want you were they were Toyo them so the Shila was can you is that buffer below so whether you say bitl on is that a double she ation material because you can you could take them all back to the mikveh and even let's show her Noah it says that if it's cashew and Calum if it's a very big deal huh remorse says that that's not called a dovish materia and it would be bottle that's a cliche ISA would that apply to a cle-cle but that same a lock applied to have chicane and that applies to africanum would that apply to felis can because the sheriff said fearless calum it could be that it's it's not an easel only to be much damage the boots it's on the country it's a mid suit to be joyful to clean there maybe that's not called maybe that's not called domination a team that should be you know that that should not be called since there's a tear its its bottle so we be toilet below the Calum so at the end was just too much for everybody to be title so I think but she'll remember we that that that particular company was very close to observe a cone that restaurant he recommends anatomical that the Calum that were not bottle that they should sell though oh they something they should sell those two ago you think I think that was the resolution at that time but that itself is a shot in terms of where the treeless Calum is and to me mister damage was an issue a mitzvah so I once went for Lancel a cheek he said a name of his father name of the mice who saw their chick he thought because there's a shine let's say come to somebody's house who's not toy bakalyan so he said if he - he sent him of emotion that could be I don't them that she Lala can we hold this way but he thought that it might not be also for the person who's just the guest to use those came because he's relieved Feliz on the violin but in general its Mitzi you know there's a Charlaine post cream also what about for example if the Klee belongs to a cotton is it austerity Amish would that cleat because the cotton is not rival mitzvos but but you know Timmons general do you policy coming back to that we did require and continue to acquire caterer has to be joyful all his Kaelin forks knives and so on even even glasses that only for Bonin all of them will not submit on this have to us just consider them please flavor and and as very chefs we don't look to get around into it without the limits we're selling it unless it's something that's a very very large Klee or some other reason was not possible to retitle it because that's actually that's a Chevelle stutter so once we're talking about bottles and Calum will talk about another bottled product and the question was posed what level official do we require for a Yankee considered bushel so in terms of all your policy generally speaking over Maya has different supervisor holds that the Bishop of Lyon is it's you know some hole that has to be you know Yalo booboo else that is you know real boiling which is a hon no enclosed well bielski think said that it's forgot the exact number that he said you know for example who's the high hundred ninety s in Fahrenheit but Denver moisture has it as your hose that it's really that the she a shoe that's lettuce so if you think it's yet so lettuce then he has a whole range we got so lettuces from 115 to think one and Fahrenheit to 175 so you know so that's a lower level in terms of what's required in terms of be sure for for yarn but we usually we until you use a higher level but you know now they have technologies or flares pasteurization that it reaches that very high temperature and very quickly so it's actually only heated at that temperature for a very short time in and then it comes down that's why some of the opinion that that maybe that doesn't help in terms of rish mee-o kisses namacarya the iron at all but generally speaking we know you uses the higher temperature but relation libros moisture has suggestion of yet so lettuce and he has as I said in general information supers he has a whole range in terms of yet so let's so once we're talking about Vishal in the transition to identify the visual on your shaft if the regime occurred lever a little bit someone was asking our microwave ovens a problem visual official in general and an official alchemy the US Army is quoted in Shannara as having a Suffolk regarding other forms of visual whether they applied basilicum so the basic rights that since we shall Ockham's thereupon on whenever what do you do when you have a shake of the Dean and the humor you have a tackle so we passed going to take one and then they're up on a little cooler and I take her on it then there Isis stopping there I said little man so the fastest and you shot me is that informa be show other than what was normal in the days of the time I am that's this Suffolk I mean all the cool Annette say really we should have gone I thought we should eat on the cooler and the tradition official welcome in a microwave it's a kind of bishop that didn't exist but they say I think if the food was already cooked from before and enough is just reheating it so that's not visual ahkam but if they're not we took let's say raw hot dog a row of french fries and we'd only throw up potatoes and then he heated and he made it edible by yeah we did it he made it edible by the bishop in terms of beef a lot combining microwave actually I think I had the discussion wants to misnomer salmon as you know where the microwave is considered be show device or abundant is ibaka Lakers between Galatia and English moisture and Samba Samba the Moshe says that since the Maya says the beach will Bahama is not people because it's and so that's promotion this is the equivalent of lab to be sure Bahama because it's not with a fire with actual heat it's you know the microwave activates that the molecules heats it up internally so it moisture holds that that a microwave would be on Shabbos would be be show device sir because now it's Derek be focused 0.2 a mush nowadays you know if you had to do - MS since that's that's the normal way to cook nowadays in Israel that is their official you'd be save on Shabbos and the traumas Arman thinks otherwise that he thinks that most atonium issued were born an official so I sort of assumed that troops numbers I'm and I met with him once about this that he would be make about microwaves and he said no in terms of be shellacking with those is specifically about that and he was he said no every chef that resided so um olya policies that we don't do a lie on internship echelon for its goodbye guy that cooking it in a microwave would not be what not that would fall under the category of malucia and Asian is not also by be Sherlock him so in terms of Vishal and someone's act asking a lot of times he come to our town community and his people is that for whatever reason they eat kosher in the house but so necessarily keep kosher out of the house wouldn't somebody be allowed to eat in that house strictly speaking the Mishna says in Paris action Allah dubber Donovan I meet a person that can have them honest and Cassius unless he always keeps for sure if sometimes it when he's out of the house and leading a restaurant even if it's not so gusher then strictly speaking he doesn't have them honest my sure has a big finish you had the emotion lived in Russia communists' live the Moscow for a few years before he came to America so you had the situation there where the parents were still sham images and the children were communists and it didn't leave in anything so the shower was the parents are old and they move in with their children the children have them honest to tell him that all the food that they're giving them is caution because the children eat Rafe is Jordan arias in the house but if the parents know their children so well they feel that children never tell them a lie they will never be much of them and eating traces even though Dreyfus doesn't mean anything to them but that a respect for their parents we never give them Schafer's a motion it is based on inquiry that there's a concept that king baby God they will say who I know that the fellows telling the truth so I can rely on that yeah but that's its yeah a lot of times he can't rely on that because he doesn't believe in cash for us it doesn't mean anything thing same thing let's say mixer the lady has quantities if the woman in charge only make fish she herself doesn't care she doesn't observe Clara something's broken she does know so she keeps consciously shopping she doesn't keep Terrace Amish Baca then she's not the Menace to say that she made the house Schottky is that no Madison say that the woman's here all the hair went under the surface of the water you only have them honest in an area well you you observe that area there are more has an interesting truth i mugged in Poland in Krakow they said by the wine from Italy in the Jews in Italy who manufactured the wine whom they even wine themselves but drink tray for wine I would explain that what is me so they said they drink to go Asian why because in Italy all the water is polluted and you can't drink the water so since it's a big shots are Clark said they decide a name is Madame but them I said they drank stamina so there are more was asked a question how can we rely on these Jewish men lecturers in Italy they themselves drink Amina how can we rely on that that they're giving us kosher wine so he's Mako and he says well the Jewish wine makers in Italy it into themselves a bad bad there but they understood that if they live in Poland where the water was not polluted they would they would keep they would be careful with the Eurasian wine they help they had a head that they had tourism that's not called question a lot of all are done a millimeter but normally if a person doesn't observe he doesn't have that Madison that area of a lotta just in in terms of the Troubadour emerges item I should face is this understood and consumers of our timbre but he speaks when he was living in Moscow the children knew about their parents that they wouldn't fool them and someone but my concludes his chuhwa he says that it doesn't relate cuz she says it's only boishakh conquer these people had no other 8c because they were being living at their hat at their you know with their parents and the children went through me the way he described in the apocalypse as soon as they were quorum that Ramesh's language and the children but he says well I save him he's not make him so you know in in the normal circumstance I mean this Charlotte could come up somebody said to the vampire a local community it's a corker to not eat it - no Bala Barton's houses things like that but his crew and it's a person it doesn't keep kosher in you know outside the house they think something you know the Academy that's was common in America inside he keeps closer outside he doesn't but remotion really he's not really making on that he's only making in this extraordinary that you know as he is rib chef Natasha writes this Chui says in when he was in Moscow so you know he's living under a communist regime there was no other eighths at all but generally speaking my sis lock hands that may kill is not make him so it would have to be an extraordinary us in fact when the person is not basically much he's that much bit about cash restore Hawaii's eating outside he would have he would have known that - so Jake knows mom just sent a message she wants to know in terms of this name - if someone is not mocked but I'm because - lion do they lose and I'm honest malaria's of just allowing they think it's a joke so we connect one of the questions we asked was what is the policy of the oh you with regards to give me extra to restaurants who are non tower values are glorified for example like a kosher sports bar well I mean the only policy is that in general that in order for a restaurant to have a know you'd the of in in the ambience has to be toda Caswell so therefore you mean I remember we had at first can see oh there was a request for a restaurant with a belly dancer and things like that so we different kinds of clubs we rejected it a sports club of course depends we actually you know if they just chunks you know let's say we have one Western identity neck it's uh it but the ambience is very you know it's appropriate people like sports so they have they're showing sports on the on the screen there is something like that so that we would do but generally speaking in terms of the you know the fundamental question we make sure that you know that the ambience and also the halacha is observe example in terms of live music while they're having a meal since that's say Coleman whereas we don't permit that Brooklyn class-based much dose that would do with many restaurants we had unless it's a suitors Mitzvah so we had restaurants they wanted to have live music and they serve wine in these restaurants so that's not appropriate and we didn't give - go either we didn't hear - go go we didn't let them have the the live music so chef there's a lot of the Isthmus today eventually gone through our bonus different communities and asking how should a smaller deal with some of these issues you know you is a much larger organization has more muscle can be more selective but sometimes you start with it's all about them that want to certain things any adraka in terms of you know how small or fat or off out of town should deal with places that want to be kosher certified but might not have the best ambience look you have to be bus at the meter are sometimes the here in a situation will choose the least of all the evils so if the alternative is gonna be be a kosher restaurant so it's better to have there should be a kosher restaurant and ambiance okay dad thought choice yes chef Allah says obviously everything especially in a local von lo computer requires on the part of you know discretion and sensitivity and intelligence in terms of how you handle it because you know little by little you know you'll you'll build it and it'll be a different kind of in reality that you build we know the famous story bedroom so so answer that you know little by little the communities that week you know the he built things so certain things he wasn't marketed about and then you know the the reality changed completely so certain things that are possible oh you can do I'm just not not likely in a local community and you know for example the oh you requires or we agreed at least initially with that all all our restaurant owners or we tried to have I shouldn't say because of our exception so the irony is that wanted them which was grandfathered in is owned by somebody not Jewish that's probably one of our easiest restaurants in terms of compliance but that's because he doesn't know the whole show for now if this would repeat back to you but he thinks that it doesn't you know as others might know but you know the things that oh you can do in Manhattan that are not possible in local Vardhan so they'd have to set up a system that's a meaningful system of even if less and checking I remember when I used to learn by the love in onset one summer so there was a local bakery there the man and I don't think it wasn't Jewish him at all I don't think it was Jewish certainly not from the store was open on Shabbos I don't think were Jewish but you know the lovely arranged and something checking some of the ingredients and so on and he relied on it and that was that was the only bakery there in town so you know depending on the circumstance and you know you guys I said discretion and intelligence okay we can act there are some questions also post about non-food items and they wanted to know they see a lot of people call they see you know aluminum foil pans they see bottled water why do these items have a hex on them well there are products that you know probably inhuman to kosher but have a texture I mean the most demonstrative of these you know different kinds of detergents so um you know that lifts them I feel a hundred times over and dangerous to eat but you leave to remember that oh use massage from Akasha simple it's also a marketing simple it's not there and many companies want it because they think marketing wise it's good for for them not only for the you know the kosher consumer Jewish consume that is this they think that there's a perception with acted or not that if it has a no you it has a different higher level in terms of quality some case in terms of hygiene that's not necessarily what the oh you firms just know you just mean said it's kosher and so we often will tell companies no this isn't human to kosher it doesn't need supervision but they're interested in it for for their marketing reasons so there might be products as I mentioned for example when I first came to though you it's not the case anymore but a lot of though you was positive on Procter and Gamble and they used to be two departments of the Procter & Gamble there was an edible Department and it were there was the non what we call the non edible Department remember the name of the person from P&G we used to deal with in that grossest name was Davis will be someday Chi and and that was a very significant company very large company I mean at the time it's kept competitors dealt with it was with respect they still refer to Korean P&G is Proctor and God and and so there are products that don't require supervision and and might be kosher so after a similar I'm not saying they're not kosher but there are in the production of the aluminum there are different oils that are used they're used hot you know and so those things you know have to be monitored to make sure that they're kosher oils but the putting time but there are certainly many products that especially as I said detergents and things like that that really don't need supervision per se I just add to what you said a big enact we had recently an application for a couple years ago for a company that manufactures the countertops and sure enough they're using non kosher oils and they want Ostrogoth on it at the countertops I feel of it you know for keeping them meat is a very hot topic especially with the barbecue season and there's a several different questions I guess well Sarthe never connect with other chapter the first one is how does the oh you view the Ethical Treatment of PETA and animals this is that the shape is under well you know with we're sensitive to it you know schita itself is first of all is scientifically is probably one of the most humane ways it's not the mushy way of killing an animal you know the irony is that you know some of the other ways I refused to speak about this you know in terms of shooting the animal with a stun gun in the in their head unless you really hit the exact right spot you can see sometimes the animal cringing in pain afterwards and srida generally within just a few seconds the animal is insensate so it really is a very humane fashion we're concerned about sometimes methods of i'm bannin says that the beasts and the blocks that we make on speakers because of Sabella fine you know because this street is my might in the saab Bella fine so there was actually a a interesting study done by he wrote a book called Sweta and in the year 2000 rabbit Levinger who himself is a division he was in Basel now he was in Israel himself is a veterinarian he wrote a very interesting book but simply the science of screechy you know demonstrating how the animal becomes insensate so quickly and and maybe actually a much better way but having said that you know it's something we the toad he'll fix concerns itself with and you know one of the big advocates it's just important to know the history in in the nineteen end of the 1950's in the 1960s there was attempted to have you know until when the humane slaughter Act was passed so rubbish every salivated above was very involved it was unusual for him he was very involved in terms of mobilizing Jewish community to make sure that creature was not supposed as it is in many countries now in Europe and he and there's an exemption not only was there an exemption for kosher slaughter in the bill which is still the bill that's intact to this day but it also there was scientific evidence that was presented to Congress and there's a finding in that bill that not only through an exemption from for religious reasons but the kosher slaughter is indeed humane so my fact above went and testified before Congress in nineteen sixties or something in the early sixties at that time in terms of this legislation he was very involved also in creating the pen which we tried to use but at least one we recommend which is a which was called the there was the glove worked on this and then he gave it over to the ASPCA the animal so-called animal rights organization but of course we have opponents to shrieked and Peter which a radical animal I don't if the right animal rights organizations that misrepresent Rita I was when one of the important animal rights or I would say analytes advocates but is a woman who was professor of in University of Denver and she uncle Grantham Temple Grandin who wrote a book the chemical and is an extraordinary woman I became friendly with her she herself is autistic and because of that she feels that she can understand animals and you know that what their their feelings in terms of stress and so before shrinker so we want to be my mind you know minute minimize that as much as possible she wrote a wonderful book is called thinking thinking in pictures so these are things that we really factor in and we even in this one of the treatise that we had you know doing - Oh Andrew Bastian the Peter was really one of the organizations that looked to target to the Baskins very very unfairly and she has she we had a protege of Temple Grandin inspect the plant and set up the procedures there to try as much as hard to limit any stress on the animal erica vogue is the whole name she still goes to the plant and lead to this day or she sends one of her assistants to go and so we care about it we want it to be done in the most efficient and and and sensitive way as possible the love was very much for a standing pen because he thought that you know the dad will you know protection schita and promoting it that also in limiting their stress on the animal however the development in Israel requires what they call Skeeter nathas because they wanted to be shmita mamalu LaMotta the love himself was opposed to that and I remember he wanted Tommy go tell the chief rabbi which I did that look at the RAM that Obama says when he speaks but Hills ashrita that to mom says that shocked us have been obento medet been Rovere at said CC can share the animal standing as well not that it helped in terms of their policy note but this is something that we work on and it's interesting because it is concerned developer not change or the Israeli government changed that now just visited John this is only several months ago it changed its policy most of the shooting coming to Israel comes from South America for Central America and they require now pens but they required to invert the animal in the pen but it's not just ashrita on the ground whether that shmita is more or less you know stressful for the animal I'm very skeptical but certainly the aesthetics of it looks better Thank You chef there there's a lot of questions about Messiah especially all frozen shaquita with the regime be able to talk about his turkey considered kosher or not the game area in tarik in the Dreyfus deliciousness burger Jeff is tells you listen Mona how to identify whether anyone's very disclosure or not so then the Americans is worried that damn who lived in Bothell once came upon a new breed that they never heard of before and it had all the frogs on him to identify that it's a kosher bird and they were shifting an idiot and after a while they realize that they misjudged and they made a mistake on so Raschi who usually just gives parish on the Gemara Rashi really gives up Shakalaka sometimes she does give up soccer Russian Tsar Tibet Tom love their eyes him in Amenas Bamako and a lot of other and woman there are a lot of rashes but give sacra welcome to Russia and Nakamura says Lamar I made a mistake and they misjudge and they thought that a non-kosher bird was kosher it's a good idea we should avoid eating blow you have a tradition oh bird it shouldn't rely on the 5cm on him that the mission hands because he maybe miss Judd so there are more quotes this when the safer he said the head commander at Laney oh my gosh cannot you see there's a banana guarantee he was looking in in Spain and this safer so they had to hurry up by the replenishment inside the ship bus comes all Ashkenazim in there every day they quote the eastern every page near there so the rom or quotes this is less you have a tradition so that's the Schuyler so that's it you have a tradition a chicken's are kosher so what if the chicken is slightly different from the chicken that we don't you always a slightly chemical if it's not exactly the same let me say this we have a traditional this chicken is car share carries over to this chicken also not such a major difference turkeys are a different min though so that's a shower when Columbus came back from America to Spain he brought back the turkey with him and in Spain they don't have this comer this aroma from Rashi fan Ashkenazim when there are many and he said there are more quotes it but the muhabba doesn't quote that from so when when Columbus brought back to Turkey to Spain so all this floor has all the same on him oven kosher birds so they started a media then apparently 50 years in the store that I can't aspire to my reading teri cases assume they must have had a tradition that discussion they never had any tradition so they never was a tradition so strictly speaking we're really in violation of the Minich not to eat any foul unless you have a tradition the famine acronym say no we have a tradition the American Indians were interrupted in they had in Turkey was cautious what are you talking about they gave other explanations they said the turkeys come out the same as a chicken duck is very different from a chicken not the same is it but the other thing is only a minute I think ever since Roe consumes motor chugging any other country in the world the many became undecided appengine Yuri was insisting that it's not right you shouldn't eat turkey there's one Chavez family name was Horowitz so he said he has relatives who will not be turkey the Lee Krasner on Yom Kippur but the one eat turkey because their descendants can wallow so speaking of Rashi we really shouldn't be eating but it became a meaning that Turkey is an exception to the rule we can a few ago the place is having will come in etske but she Philadelphia and his wife has guests in that house for Shabbos and told me that he doesn't eat turkey but he told me his father with the ark of wood would eat turkey but his wife that means his mother came from a town in Europe that the meaning was not in Turkey again cuz we don't have Masari around Turkey so he himself follows the meaning of his mother his father the integrations man it was accepted the meaning of his mother and they and they any teach already time he doesn't eat turkey we can act in terms of oh you policy people hear different things about hot chocolates well even if a person is not good not to eat turkey I think somebody it is this question about let's say you have a minute not eat turkey you eat a person's house who does have you know serves Turkey on occasion do you have to worry about the calum so in fact I don't think you have to me laugh because it's really not eating turkey so we showed this a homer shark says in general then I'm homeless we don't say Tom and I don't think it means if there's a myth if there's no me so and the thing that it's possibly you should be cautious for it and certainly if you ingest at somebody's house because I know when the Yaak wouldn't show was by us he had an ark a let me didn't think the camera Oh sir because we serve turkey although I said he could have a heart I'm going to go to the convention but while the was the memo says that clock may lie if you if you eat in a person's house and there were different opinions about Caleb no not we're not talking about whom about Turkey we talk about a new set of colors so you can rely seems to be a memo is even talking about even if it's a binary much so I don't think you have to worry about to kill them if you this ready how much goes eating somebody's house delete their so we can act this has a little follow-up in terms of other types of the serum a lot of people out there hear conflicting reports Broncos what they do a lot with his own allow once they were used policy in general with regards to Nevada silica Thiel can you rely upon us what about the other drove as I have in Ostrava well I'm not sure what community everybody ever it means that you want Nevada healer so if you if something becomes but it's mutter to say otherwise the person is that be gravis I mean it's not a I don't think this is not a former not to align bittle in the toy over but we don't rely you know I'm bit luckily in terms of our office even even if it's a girl you should company we we don't you know if the amount thats there is very small and would let it less than she she would be bottle we will not look up clearly gave of oshkosh on that lemuria has a to ver to vomit relates that he says even a CLE that's an anal bank let's say it's a factory that makes non kosher kosher in the same factory they use calum that you know they use the same equipment but it's in a nub in Yermo so that's my collection is that based on bittle not the voices go much like this Michael accompanied by Morris relates the pace of my focus Tabasco and abetik abayas so the moisture says that you should not rely on it because it's Marcia's phrase it's mejor hard over so even sometimes if something would be bottle oh you know something would be motor Marcia has this concept of mooladhara that is inappropriate so in terms of or policy we example physically that's an end up in your mo so look up clearly we will not and the only way to run this Factory is that it's in any been your mo so we won't give our offer to that if it's always just then that question claim is if we know that the Kahlan what Rafe came in on culture we require cash ring and we we don't rely and little East local dealer but but if you ask somebody Everett if suddenly became virtual world we rely on that the answer is yes so you know Shafter is there Samuel I asking is there not convenient between little it's ilaha illa and little Hammad's barai when it comes to paisa same thing if you know that there's an ingredient of comment so luckily they have sure my thesis is about the musician homies bit pacifism asha comments even on their pacer is about the musician but you don't give a half sure and a product based on the fact that you have all the traif ingredients about the mission that you give such action ok we have a couple more questions and then you know times me out of here maybe your neck the question came through if the only takes into account you mentioned you know about the animals and things like that what about in terms of workers and compliance does they'll you take that into account or there's that left other authorities to take care well you know our expertise is is limited to Cassius if we know that there's something which is violating you know in which is patently violating American law or inappropriate you know selling product that's we just had I just had this past week thinks an example somebody called us that there was a company that was packaging product and it was the he said it was underweight and we sent our mush gear in Baltimore to check it out and indeed that was the case and we stopped them I mean the company itself when we went back to them said that there was inadvertent somehow said it was wrong with the scales would and what we required them to recall the product as well so if it's something that we know that's inappropriate either in terms of standards or you know as I said in this example of weight but you know several years ago this goes back a while the conservative movement wanted to start that have sure thing was called half-shirt said that but you know they wanted to speak about you know what what what level of payment workers were getting and so on so that's not our area that's up to the you know whether it's OSHA USDA FDA to set those standards they have the they have they the expertise and the authority to do it that's not something we do but as I say if we know something is wrong we will take action as we just did actually happen just last week okay question after people are asking about no non-dairy creamers that might have some type of dairy inside of them could one still use them in their coffee after a fleshie good meal there was a discussion recently all the cautious organizations get together a few times a year so recent meeting that thought that it was permissible it's not named about Tunisia la catrina the milk is kosher except that the questions but the good coffee is like a bargain so if it turns out that you have shisha I'm against corruption on the part of the creamer you have a little bit of milk in it when you mix in it with the coffee you have shishun so it's Barbra sure that's not cool that's not a violation if I'm asking if you Devon if you're mixing it you know to move it you move Ashley then you're gonna put it in something that's Flay shakes so that is my Vaseline so that's the shaft says but if you're just putting into your coffee like they were chef Lou said so at that point it's buckling gonna drink it at that point mm-hmm okay I think that wraps up most of the questions that we have today I want to thank you rubbing your neck and abstractor forgive me at this time answer everyone Charlotte's today and we want to thank everybody for joining us for the last several hours it's been a long day hopefully you've gained something from we will send out hopefully later this week a survey so we can get a some people for you in terms of what you enjoyed what you enjoyed more and otherwise wish everyone a wonderful day and a wonderful rest of your week and stay safe