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>> And we're back. It's always an honor or
privilege to have Rabbi Daniel J.
Gladson with us. A prolific writer,
author. He's written so many different
books since and really innovative and
he's a popular lecturer. And when I
heard people say, "Oh, you have Rabbi
Glatson on tonight." Said, "Oh, we're
excited. Happy to hear him." and he's uh
uh one his book on Rashashan and the
high holiday seasons called the mystery
and the m majesty came out a number of
years ago from art scroll he's also
magia publishing and the rabbi in
cedhurst New York thank you for joining
us goodv
>> good thanks for having me how are you
>> thank you so what I wanted to focus on
was with the Jewish new year with
Russashana coming people always
wondering how to better themselves one
of the problems we as a society face is
the growing materialism And that affects
our religious service. I know that the
the thinking is when you say the schma,
you say that prayer, you say that you're
supposed to serve God
with all your wealth. But I think the
villagan says even if you have money,
you still got to serve God. Question is,
how do we get over the materialism, the
consumerism that we have and make this a
more effective and spiritual new year
for all of us?
>> Okay. Uh good question. And that's in a
way the question of the day, the
challenge of the generation, the
challenge of materialism.
Um, if you were to ask most people
what's a bigger test, poverty or wealth,
most people would say they would always
take the test of wealth. You know, bring
it on. that uh looking back at history
during generations where people had
deprivation, they didn't have food to
eat, they couldn't feed their children,
a test like that is uh so challenging
and so difficult. But the test of
wealth, we don't necessarily even
consider it a challenge or a test. But
yet if you look in most the aladesh
writes about this in many places that
the challenge of wealth is far greater
than the challenge of poverty and it's
more difficult to serve God out of
affluence and success than it is to
serve him out of deprivation and
hardship.
Um actually in a way that's something
that we have going for us. You know the
writes, I think last time uh you had me
on to speak about the work see peace
Yeshua awaiting the coming of Messiah
and
writes that in his time when there was
so much poverty and deprivation and yet
Jews were still serving God that that is
such a great merit uh that will surely
expedite the coming of the Messiah. But
actually in light of what we're
mentioning now that the challenge of
wealth and affluence is a far greater
challenge than the fact that we serve
God uh in our times is actually more
impressive than the fact that they
served him 100 years ago. So uh it is
quite challenging whether it's um
financial success whether it's
materialism it brings to a certain
degree of entitlement
and
immersion in the physical world. You
know, Raay teaches that it's impossible
to be dedicated and to be immersed and
to be driven and drawn after
spirituality and physicality. In other
words, you can't you can't be driven by
both and you have to make a decision.
You have to make a choice. So, that's
certainly a challenge of our time.
Um
the the way we deal with it would would
have to be to uh uh increase our
devotion and dedication to the study of
Tyra because when uh when the Jewish
soul appreciates Torah study
and in other words if we're focused on
it and we don't allow uh ourselves to be
distracted then
a focused Torah study will allow a
person to begin to
uh to savor and to taste what stu what
true spiritual delight is. And then the
two don't don't really compare. Um,
anybody who's ever been given a taste of
the beauty of of Torah study, the
majesty of Torah study, uh, is now
better equipped to make the choice in
life, uh, which what to pursue and what
to value and what to hold in high
esteem. But here's the problem, Robert
Glasson, is that a lot of people have
affluence and consumerism and they go to
shul and they'll make them blow out
kittish and they'll do go to most exotic
places around the world. But there is a
creeping materialism that I think it
affects fact who we honor in some of our
shs are people who have big contributors
and there's nothing wrong with doing
that. But it sets the message that what
we respect most is money. Yeah, that's
it is a problem. Um,
it's something that that society at
large is uh is very steeped in and
there's no simple solution. But in terms
of for an individual
um to have a fighting chance to to steer
themselves on the right path,
one would have to make a very valiant
attempt to to try to immerse themsel in
true spiritual pursuit. Whether that
I'll give you a few examples whether
that's prayer. Now you know one thing
that's rampant in our time is people are
not experiencing true prayer. First of
all they're coming into the shul with uh
with their phones. So even if they have
the good decency to put it on vibrate or
to turn it off they're still tethered to
it. So they haven't even begun to let go
and to give uh sincere prayer a chance.
So the first step would be okay it's uh
two weeks before rashash shana actually
we're starting we started a movement
called the amino um we produced a video
over 125,000 people saw it so far and we
have um over a hundred people who have
committed themselves not to bring a
phone in a shul you know if you ask most
people what is prayer most people don't
know they don't have no idea what it is
they think it's a way of beseeching God
to get their requests answered They're
got they're coming to pray for money or
for success or for health. That's not
actually even one of one of the
objectives of prayer teaches. Prayer is
a an expression an expression of the
yearning of the soul to connect with
Hashem. B
expressing gratitude to God. see uh
recognizing God's uh
elevated greatness and our uh
unworthiness.
Most people don't even aren't even aware
that that's they're they're trying to
accomplish these tasks in in their
so the first thing is to disconnect to
say okay I'm giving myself now a certain
amount of time for my shakus I'm I'm
dedicating now myself now to
to express my nishama's yearning for the
creator to show gratitude to him to feel
his greatness to feel my uh loneliness
and
once a person begins to to experience
spirituality then they realize a certain
emptiness of the physical pursuit. I
mean this applies by all manners of
Judaism. You know, I ask people, "What's
shabas?" I don't know. Shabas is a day
that to sleep. That's, you know, that's
a very uh unfortunately a very juvenile
perception of what shabas is. You know,
if you ask somebody how was the
restaurant? So, if somebody's
unsophisticated
consumer, they would say uh either good,
bad, or mediocre. But the sophisticated
connoisseur would would ask, "What do
you mean how is the restaurant? You mean
the ambiance? Do you mean the uh the
aud?
Yeah. Someone who's a little bit more
sophisticated could break it down
further. So someone who is more
sophisticated uh spiritually
will be able to discern there's a
certain type of sanctity for Friday
night. There's a certain type of
sanctity for Shabas morning for Shabas
by Mina Friday night. The focus of of
Shabas is on, you know, there are three
historic Shabas in our in our history.
There's the Shabas that God rested from
creation. And that's why Friday night we
have a special uh
where we talk about how after creating
the world in six days, Hashem rested on
the seventh day. And that's why this
mirror of Friday night are are focused
on uh Hashem resting from creating the
world. Shabas morning is a commemoration
of Shabas Matra when Hashem gave the
Torah to the Jewish people. All the
added fel of Shabas morning are focused
on God giving the Torah to the Jewish
people. The ziro that we see Shabas
morning are focused on God giving the
Torah to the Jewish people. Shabas by um
Mina is uh commemorating Shabas of the
future of Alam Haba and
it re all aspects of Judaism um require
great study and great analysis. So look
I always uh like to say that the biggest
danger in our society is what we call
cultural Judaism. Cultural Judaism is
when things are devoid of any spiritual
content and it's just a matter of the
culinary aspect of of the holidays or of
the shabas or or just practicing what
was without any understanding. So that's
it's an empty shell. It has no meaning
and it's not going to be something that
will be successfully passed down to the
next generation.
uh one has to have not cultural Judaism
but
inspired and educated Judaism.
So you know it's not a wonder why
there's immersion in the physical world
because there's no if without
appreciation for spirituality
then uh
there aren't there aren't it isn't even
uh an even playing field. So it really
the most important thing is uh education
and all aspects of Judaism need constant
you know in any career whether you're a
doctor you're a lawyer you're an
accountant whatever you are you need
continuing continual education even
somebody who went to medical school for
for a decade needs continuing education
and same thing in Judaism all aspects of
yahadus have to be constantly
uh studied and uh we have to elevate our
our understanding and appreciation and
level of educa of education.
So uh you know that that's something
important to think about for the
upcoming year. You know that this year
there's this uh special
>> well there's this year there's no show
for blowing at Shabas the first no show
for blowing. You know that historically
all the best years for the Jewish people
were always when uh Rashashana came out
on Shabas like when we uh God forgave us
for the Mishkan or when we
for the Aal or when we built the Mishkan
or when we entered the land of Israel.
These were all years that Rashashana
came out on Chabas. On the other hand,
the worst years in our history
were when Rashashana came out on Chabas.
Both the first temple and the second
temple were destroyed on years that
Rashashana came out on Shabas.
9 um October 7th Rashashana came out on
Shabas and this is an observation that
the Ara famously makes. It was the best
of times. It was the worst of times.
>> So when was when was the best of times
when it came out in Shabas? You gave us
some of the worst
>> when we built the Mishkan. The year that
we built the Mishkan. the year we
entered the holy land when God brought
us into Israel that year uh we have a a
record that year rash shan came out on
chabas
recently rabbi Daniel Jay Gladstein he's
a prolific writer he is the rabbi of
kahila steris morai his book on
rashashan and the and the high holiday
seasons called the mystery and the
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>> And we're back. Rabbi Daniel J. Glassy
Prolific author, writer, lecturer
Ravilus Deferis Morai Arilus
Morai in Cedarhurst, New York. And we'll
take some we'll take one or two phone
call. Let's go to Arya in Flamp. You
have a question for our guest. Go ahead.
Yes. You know, the problem is is that we
we have a when we address a problem, we
have a head in the clouds and I think
that's the way uh it was when you
explained this the test of wealth. I
think the and the alik are talking about
two different situations. Uh one is
practical and one is uh the exception of
of where a rich man uh his sublime
service is interfered with by his
wealth. I mean that does not is not the
test of wealth. The real test of wealth
is if you're happy with what you have.
Now, a wealthy person does not have too
much difficulty being happy with what he
has. And a poor person has no choice but
to be happy with what he has. It's the
person in the middle who can acquire
more wealth instead of spirituality.
That's the one who's faced with the
test. And that's what we have in society
today with people in the middle seeking
to get money at all costs. talking about
the stock market on Chabis, charging
outrageous rents for for basement
apartments so Gidden can't even live in
society anymore. Pure greed on people
who want to acquire more money. It's not
the wealthy that are failing this test
and it's not the poor, it's the people,
it's the middle class which comprise
most of us and the rabbis are not
addressing that.
>> Rabbi Gling will address it. Go ahead,
Rabbi Glass. Okay. So just I'll take
exception with one [clears throat] point
that uh when you mention that it's the
middle class that has the hard time
being happy what they have but the
wealthy the wealthy they don't they're
not challenged to be happy with the with
what they had. But actually the human
condition is not like that. The human
condition is that no matter how much we
have we're not satisfied. And actually
usually the way it works is the more a
person has the more they feel they're
missing. I mean our sages teach us if
you have a 100 you want 200. If you have
200 you want an additional 200. So
actually the one who has 200 is more
needy than the one who only has 100. So
you the human condition is such that if
you have uh seemingly every pleasure in
the world, you're more needy and more
lacking and more wanting and more
desirous and feeling more empty than
someone in the middle. So
uh you know that's
>> go ahead recognize
>> I I that again is very theoretical
because that is the human condition but
uh a great many people and perhaps even
the majority in any segment of society
any given segment of society might be
able to overcome that because in the end
it's only the human condition and we're
supposed to be able to rise above it
with the Torah. But you know what really
negates what you said?
>> I'll allude to fiddler on the roof.
Tevia when he's when he when he appeals
when he beseeches Hashem and says would
it hurt to have a little wealth just to
be a little have a little money. Do you
think coming from his poverty that if
Hashem blessed him with wealth that all
of a sudden he would succumb he would
fall into that bottomless pit of greed?
I don't think so.
>> I don't think human condition applies to
to to real to real ever sticky hidden. I
don't think so.
>> It appi it's a uh it's a reality of
existence. Uh actually it applies to
everybody. Uh the only person who we
know definitely was able to rise above
that challenge was Abrahamu himself
where the Torah says he died happy and
satisfied. And Ramban explains that that
was a big
um that
as a poe in contra distinction to the
rest of mankind who who
taught us about the sages they just
teach us no one has ever died having
even half of what they want. So a it's a
human condition and b it's a universal
condition. We try as best as we can to
overcome. But uh
>> okay, it's not it's not only Abra with
the sages as well. We we learned that
the sages the Tanaya only worked a
certain amount of hours until they had
enough food to survive and then they
stopped. That is perhaps the best
example of overcoming the misan of
wealth. If they had a business to
actually shut the business to learn
Torah because you made enough money for
the day. So it's not only Abrahamu. I
mean he maybe he set the example for a
lot of people in in in down through the
ages but I think it's a legacy that we
didn't have the kayak to do that and I
think that
>> we certainly have
>> we certainly have the kayak but
>> we have people that retire people retire
goel
and they learn they in other words they
work up to a certain point and they and
they look forward to doing this they
said I'm going to retire at a certain
age and they don't they don't seek like
unlimited unbridled wealth
Anyway, you raised some very good points
uh Rabbi Glatsina. That's I want to take
one or two more questions, but uh really
good points and it's something we have
to grapple. I think there's a growing
materialism, consumerism. They've been
rabbis speaking out about it. Uh and on
the one hand, you know, good to see
people are able to afford to do with the
finest love, but taking extreme look at
some of the kiddish clubs. Look at some
what's going on there where they have
the most expensive wines and and
whiskey, etc., etc. So we've been bound
by that and we respect money too much in
some communities and that's because of
growing affluence. So it's something
which we have to deal with and be dealt
with. But you raised some good points.
Thank you.
>> That's the point. That's the point.
Thank you.
>> Thank you. In the time we have a minute
I just wanted to focus in your book and
I enjoyed it very much. say for the
mystery and the majesty say for Agata
right about the fact that in Russia
Shana it's it's nor time is not linear
every year around Russashana time again
the same battles where you have the
angels and you have the people saying
that don't create man and God says I'm
going to create man and don't look at
the mayas anos look at what a was
describe what goes on every year in
Russia shana according to the mystical
sources
That's that's an important concept that
you know we address in many of the books
that the Jewish calendar is a living
calendar. Living calendar means that
those phenomenon that we commemorate
we're not merely commemorating them but
those occurrences are reoccurring and uh
one of the the events that seared
rashashana and created what takes place
on rashashana is the creation of man.
Man was created on rashashana the first
day of tish. It was the day that God
created Adam. On that day, Adam ate from
the Hadas and he was judged and he was
acquitted. And that judgment uh takes
place every year. But before God created
man, the angels said why are you create
why are you creating him? This is not a
good not a good decision. This is not a
good choice. So every year annually on
rashash the angels again convene and
this is something we read about in
Job in the first chapter the sixth verse
where it says
it was the day Rashi says the day is
the angels came to congregate and to
convene and to say God you know every
year annually you recreate man and you
show him special distinction
bad decision, bad choice. Don't create
him. Don't show him that favoritism.
Don't give him dominance and sovereignty
over all of creation. So every year on
Rashashana, we're sort of the cards are
stacked against us and the angels are
convening and they're saying to God,
don't recreate man. Don't give man that
distinction. And by the way, besides
that, on an individual level, there's a
concept that every year on Rashashana,
the nations of the world are in trial
because we know that by the generation
of the dispersal,
God uh gave the 70 angels uh a
particular nation and God selected us.
You know, we're God's number one draft
pick. God selects the Jew with the first
pick of the draft. The Almighty selects
the Jewish people and that draft takes
place every year that God selects us to
be his beloved people, his children. And
every year the angels say, "Well, maybe
you want to reconsider that. Maybe this
year you want to select the North
Koreans or the Iranians. Maybe you want
them to be your selected nation and
they're your children. And
you know, it's interesting. Our custom
is that we take haircuts before
Rashashana and we dawn our finest. The
tour says because we're confident that
we're going to uh be victorious in
judgment, which is a little bizarre.
What do you mean we're confident we're
going to be victorious in judgment? No
individual knows what the outcome of the
judgment will be. No. The garra says one
of the one of the seven things hidden
from human consciousness is uh the depth
the profoundity of judgment. Nobody
knows what the new year has in store. So
what exactly are we so confident about?
Why are we wearing our finest? And why
are we taking a haircut as if we know
what the outcome is going to be? We have
no idea what the outcome is going to be.
>> Wasn't there a ritual with the candle if
it blew out or something that somebody
knew that it wouldn't survive?
>> Yeah. you know, um, good. The the Gumar
and Harice tells us that if somebody
wants to know whether they're going to
survive the new year, they should, uh,
light a candle in a room without any any
wind. And if it's going to if it
continuously blows, that's a sim. That's
a sign that they'll survive the year.
But what we are confident is that on a
national level, God will once again
select the Jewish people to be his
beloved nation and to be his chosen
people. So on a national level, we do
have an we do have a certain confidence,
but that distinction is theoretically up
for grabs, but it's it's a judgment that
we're confident in the outcome of. We're
not confident in our own personal
outcome. We know God's our loving father
and he's going to shower us with
kindness, but we we're we can't be
confident what the new year has in
store. But on a national level, we have
confidence that God will once again
choose us.
>> Before I let you go, something you said
before, you said that the years when
Shabas and the Rashashana coincide, the
first day of Rashan is on Chabas, you
said sometimes is good and sometimes is
bad. It seemed from what you said except
for one and maybe you can clarify that
it seems it's been more bad than good.
Are there any other case aside from that
one example that you cited where it was
a good year?
>> Yeah. So besides entering the land of
Israel also we built the Mishkan and uh
we were forgiven for the sin of the
golden calf. But I want to point out
something very important. The Gomorrah
says in Russash
that any year that we do not blow in the
beginning of the year will be a bad year
in the end.
And Tyus there explains even if a person
was unwell
>> and they're extenduating circumstances
and they couldn't blow okay they may
they may be excused but it won't be a
good year it will be a bad year but says
that does not apply if rash comes out on
chabas so the commentaries discuss this
in great depth why would somebody be
liable if they didn't blow sheer because
they were sick they were unwell it's not
it's not their fault we know there's a
concept
one is not liable one is not guilty if
they didn't fulfill mitzvah under under
arrest because of extenduating
circumstances and the reason given is
that even if it's not their fault that
they didn't blow the chaur is literally
the instrument that silences the satan
the satan so it would be like somebody
who the doctor prescribed medicine and
due to extenduating circumstances the
person didn't take their medicine So
it's not their fault. We're not going to
blame them, but they're not going to get
better because at the end of the day,
they didn't take their medicine.
Although it's albeit to no fault of
their own. Same
>> year when you can't blow the chauffeur
because the shab is so we can blow the
show. But the fact is the chauffeur is
still not blown.
>> Oh, so excellent question. So all the
ask, well then why why does Tyra say
that if it's Shabas, we'll we'll still
be protected. We'll still be okay.
Shouldn't we, you know, be up the creek
without a paddle? So there are various
approaches given but uh the approach I
want to just share with you now is that
if uh when Rashana comes in on Shabas
although we may not have the advocacy of
the chaar we'll have the advocacy of
Shabas
>> Shabas is our beloved wife. So the the
analogy, the parable that that's given
is if the king gets upset with one of
his officers and the officer is scared
for his life, but if he has a good wife
and he knows the king likes the wife and
the wife's a good smooth talker, he'll
bring the wife into court and she'll
bail him out. The problem though is if
the wife is wounded on her face and on
her arms and the king says, "Well, you
know what happened to your wife?" And if
the jury said, "What happened to the
wife? He beats his wife." Then the wife
not only will not be a good advocate,
the wife will cause greater prosecution.
So it's the same thing with Shabas. On a
year we don't have the chauffeur, Shabas
is the advocate, but what it's going to
depend on is do we treat her well or do
we abuse her. So in a year that Rashana
comes in on Shabas, it's of utmost
important that we show honor to Shabas
to our wife and we treat her well. So
when she comes in the courtroom, she's
looking good so that she could advocate
and she doesn't anger the king more. So
whether it's a good year or not will
depend on how we treat the shabas. So
that's uh one of the important ideas and
uh it's something very [clears throat]
important to bear in mind uh this year
in particular.
And before I let you go, what's your
next book going to be about?
>> The next book um I'm I'm working on
connecting each para to the particular
time of the year that we read the para.
Some some of them are well known, you
know, let's say the paras we read khan
time or puram time. But to be able to
analyze each para the how do the paras
that we read in the month of connect to
the month of how do the paras that we
read shuis time connect to shivis how do
the paras we read during the three weeks
connect to that time I think it's a
really a landmark uh work and I'm very
excited uh hopefully will be available
this coming year
>> Rabbi Daniel Jay Glass thank you for
joining us look forward to having you
back to you and your family a good
kventure a kiva
Tova
>> to you as well.