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Project Inspire Convention 2022 Missionaries, Cults and Fundamentalists

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if i move away if i like did this if i did this instead of stand behind the lectern would that work out for you or is it too close maybe bring that back a little bit i like to be closer to the to the audience well you know let's think what would be a good place for you this poll an anti-semite i know right away there's anti-submitting the poll what do you expect so this poem i hope not now because he passed away so um so but yeah people people people do say that to me good morning ladies and gentlemen i um i flew in from eric's israel and by the way those of you in the back the crowd is not that large you can come a little bit closer yep mama won't say a word i will announce it on the pa system who you are where you live and i'm going to ask you how come but besides that there won't be any problem at all that's all for those of you who joined me last night all of my work not virtually all of my work is devoted to helping jews in the church return back to the truth and the beauty of the jewish faith and then help jewish people who have never gotten involved in christianity learn more about their yahadus using christianity as a foil to reflect back the truth and the beauty of the jewish faith stumb to make a christian into an atheist is not an accomplishment about eight years ago i received a phone call from an indonesian organization it's heim indonesia is home to the largest muslim community in the world indonesia is the fourth largest country in the world there are more muslims in indonesia than there are arabs period about 240 million but there are a sizable number of christians there about 40 million and then there's all sorts of other groups as it turns out indonesia had a problem with it some 10 000 jews many of them had become christians how did something like that ever occur indonesia gained its independence following the japanese occupation during world war ii and the person who was squarely behind in the indonesians effort to seek independence from the dutch colonization was none other than hajjamin the grand mufti of jerusalem was a a real virulent anti-semite who was the one who was the instigator of the pogroms in in your a lot of blood on his hands and in indonesia when it became independent they recognized only four excuse me they recognized six religions so on your to that on your national identification card you could choose one of six religions and judaism was not one of them although in the quran judaism the jewish people the jewish faith we're the people of the book we are protected people but somehow the largest muslim country in the world did not recognize judaism now unlike what you heard from rabbi mendelovich last night practicing judaism in indonesia was not illicit you could have a minion in your house you could you can pray you anything you want only thing is that on your national id card it you had to select a religion and many of the jewish people there that alright well put on the card christianity we'll just put it on there so what happened what were the consequences at the moment really none at the moment these people continued on their religious life they had mignon cautious everything was not a problem there is a caveat here already there is one caveat and that caveat is that if you chose christianity on your national id card your indonesian national id card then your children had to go to a public school that's assigned for christians in the far east even though indonesia is a democracy but it's not like american democracy where that would be unimaginable in indonesia like in malaysia like in the areas of the far east like in the philippines you your public school is assigned to you based on your religion even though all those three countries are democracies but it's not american-style democracy so the children went to christian schools and were then exposed to everything that would go along with that that problem and and then their grandchildren would and i don't think it requires a an advanced degree in nuclear chemistry to figure out that it would only take a few generations and so many indonesian jews would become christians but they knew they knew that they had a they had a jewish background they knew of their jewish ancestry and they were willing to speak to me there was a funder there was a person in indonesia who was willing to underwrite he said i was called there's a person in indonesia who's willing to underwrite for you to fly to the island of papua papua is one of 17 000 islands in indonesia geographically it is the largest jayapura its capital and i am willing to bring in at least 500 jews indonesian jews to spend three days with you you study with them more importantly you answer their questions and then they will decide if they want to continue on as christians or they want to do chuva and return back to the jewish faith and i said you know i just won the lottery you know for me this was and when we say the other side of the world if you put a needle through stanford connecticut through a globe it comes out the other side in jayapura i mean literally it's a it if you wanted to fly from indonesia to new york it makes no difference whether you fly east or west none at all it's the same you see uh literally eckveld is the other the other side side of the world this was an unbelievable thing for me and we gathered and i had three days to convince them they came with their pastors leaders the vast majority of them were jewish fully jewish and then for three days they probed me they asked me the most pressing questions about jesus and judaism and why judaism does not accept the christian messiah there were almost 800 people that attended they told me that when the three days were over they were going to vote whether they believe in jesus or not and it began exhausted but excited i landed in a place that i they greeted me at the airport as a muslim country with israeli flags i thought i was in another plane i'd seen a lot in my life but to see israeli flags dancing in the airport of jayapura just blew my mind away and for three days intensive questioning asking asking and explain to them what the church had done to them how the church altered the jewish scriptures in order to make it appear christological go back to tanakh go back to the original who loves you he wants a personal relationship with you and the glory of israel does not lie odom because he's not a man that he will change his mind first samuel chapter 15 verse 29 let them repeat that in the vatican let them listen to that that god is not a man that he should lie he's not a mortal lover he will change his mind you said it every day including this morning do not put your trust in princes or the son of man wherein there is no salvation there is a prophecy in the book of zechariah zechariah chapter 13 the whole end of saif is a small safer 14 chapters the end of hishaya is all about the messianic age and the redemption of the gayam all of it is and it is triggered by a shiloh that was asked by babylonian jews to zechariah they had a shiloh it's in zechariah chapter seven i hope i something happens here this morning that will ignite a curiosity in you that you will open up savings there was a sheila that the people had to go to rafcom they had to go to rav kavnevsky what was the shine in zechariah chapter seven they had a child like this i'm not kidding you mama look it up for yourself they had a shiloh that here we were these were the shiva vasion 360 jews had made made aliyah and that was the very first wave how do we know 42 360. we not only know the number we know all their names that's what ezra chapter 2 is ezra chapter 2 is a long chapter enumerating every single family that was the first wave that came to air to israel on a promise and a dream by king cyrus no jewish agency no nephesh bin effect and it was the first time in jewish history the first time since yahushua since he crossed the jordan there was only one period in jewish history where there was not an ish there was not one jew in eretz israel only one time fifty years nonshanna from the time that geday benachika was murdered on rosh hashanah following by his region until the re and then he had to go to egypt with the whole heaven around him and from that point until cyrus makes the declaration go back there was not a juvenile none imagine what it means those are the first people who made aliyah and that's why their names are written in tanakh there were future waves but those future waves came on ready there was an establishment there was a temple that was being built under the leadership of yahushua benji sadaq who was the nephew of ezra and you had zero bevel who was david you had to and the the second commonwealth was largely jews who were not religious and i want you to know that if you read safer ezra and the family is really one saver you'll see that that the jews who came back from bevel two airstrikes in the first wave were largely not all but many of them were very irreligious they were khali it is very rare in tanakh very rare in nach to find criticism of jews not keeping shabbos why would we need why would we need to know this not for this program maybe we'll take some questions we'll deal with this later come to this huge banquet hall packed with people and questions and questions and questions and it came to the third day it was a wednesday and it was time for them to to vote they asked me rabbi would you and i left the room it was only a few minutes when the pastor had a big smile on his face said rabbi come back in he lifted up a indonesian bible he opened it up with the christian bible and the jewish bible separate in a christian bible malachi is the end of the jewish bible because they switch around then the veeam and the suv in the christian bible if you ask me a while i'll explain to you why they do that but at the exact point where the jewish bible ends in an indonesian bible and the christian bible begins he lifted it up and everyone lifted up with him i thought i was dreaming he took it by the binding and he ripped it in half he threw the christian bible on the floor as in everyone in the congregation and they started singing exactly i thought i was dreaming here's a boy from borough park on a wednesday night island of papua hundreds of jews singing shalom aleichem on a wednesday night i re-emphasize that and that's what your thing is what i'm saying this doesn't seem real they had done shuvu they returned back to the jewish faith and they asked me rabbi would you stay on as our rabbi three churches were turned into synagogues 516 jews dichuva many of them got married since live in yerushalayim lies were changed in november of 2018 i came to israel to debate a leading christian theologian apologist at the king of solomon hotel some of you here i'm sure watch that debate on youtube i don't know maybe a thousand people showed up it was a packed house and it was a very very exciting evening and after the program was done people came to me this is november 2018. bringing with them their friend she's involved in the messianic movement would you help her a fellow bringing his friend he was he's a sinister boy involved in christianity would you help him i was like you're looking at me stunned nishtaim i was shocked it then occurred to me that what was happening in their destroy as far as missionaries are concerned was a cancer that was stage four for those who don't know this there is no such thing as stage five the situation in their destroyer was worse than i had ever imagined i immediately realized that kojima who wanted me to make aliyah which i did on aleph kislev of civen in the the following year the following opportunity and i've been living in israel for two and a half years helping jews in the church return back to the jewish faith there are in the united states roughly a little more than a thousand christian missions to the jews we estimate that the messianic communities in israel jews who have apostasized and become christians in this country is roughly equal to the jewish population of chicago roughly three hundred thousand jews have been lost to the church here in the united states alone messianic congregations churches that are designed to look to appear as though they're synagogues all over this country how did that happen what does that even mean why are they interested in converting you and those that you love why are these mission every one of you heard of a group called jews for jesus this is not the first time you've heard of it because you sat here you heard of juicing how did you ever hear a group called i don't know puerto ricans for jesus no this group said male you manage not to hear eskimos for jesus no listen they want to convert the world they do but what is the obsession with the jewish people why the jews why there are so many missions to evangelize the jews missions now in the city communities in brooklyn to evangelize the jews why why the effort to bring the jewish people to the church what is what is why are they doing this so you need to understand why this is there are a number of reasons why the church prioritizes the jews for conversion the first reasons very simple and that is the new testament says it's fair says it in matthew chapter 10 4 and 5 you went to yeshiva you know go nut into the way of the gentiles and the city the samaritans enter not only go to the lost sheep of the house of israel so in the christian bible it says beferish to convert the jews and that's more important than anything else romans chapter 1 verse 16. do you remember in caitlyn i'm not ashamed of the gospel it's the power and salvation to everyone who believes to the jew first and then to the gentile the new testament places an emphasis on converting jews i remember i was speaking in brooklyn brooklyn i was speaking in brooklyn big crowd there was a big crowd when after you speak people usually come over to you after your presentation and come over to ask you additional questions whatever it is you'll see after so after i i spoke so there's a whole crowd around me it was in flatbush and i noticed that in the corner of my eye there's a man who i recognized it was my fifth grade rebbe he was there rabbi frankel zola gazonzine the same face just beard's a little lighter and he's just watching this marveled and he finally got his turn to make his way in and he said to me i just want you to note of you if you would have known your hummish like you know the new testament you would have been just fine so number one the new testament prioritizes the good version of the jews to christianity the second reason is even more important and more germane to our time and this reason has to do with eschatology eschatology is a fancy term it means the study of the end times these evangelical christians believe firmly that jesus cannot make a second coming unless you the jews accept jesus as your lord and savior it's based on a passage in matthew chapter 23 matthew chapter 23 is a flamethrower a verbally anti-jewish chapter even by new testament standards which is quite a bar to pass bible matthew 23 begins by saying that actually the the pharisees meaning orthodox jews sit in the seat of moses they believed in terrorism these were not karates but the jews are the worst things in the world and at the end of matthew 23 verse 39 we are told jesus says i will not return unless you say blesses he that comes in the name of the lord because when jesus we are told makes this statement in matthew 23 he is speaking before a jewish audience the church historically understands it to mean one thing what jesus is actually saying is i cannot make my second coming unless the jewish people are converted to christianity and therefore the jews you ladies and gentlemen you are holding up the show you're holding it up it is only the conversion of a jew to christianity that could trigger the second coming of jesus it is only the return of the jewish people to the land of israel that can bring about the final second second coming of jesus only that and they support israel deeply support israel the jews must be in israel they have all sorts of programs when i moved to arizona from indonesia they were willing to pay for my crate to go from indonesia to israel no thank you the effort to get jews into the land of israel preparing us for a war of armageddon that will trigger the second coming of jesus is in the christian bible and the jewish people by their abstinence by their stubbornness refusing to accept christ as their messiah that's what's holding it up and therefore we have to bring the jews to jesus now now more than ever the time has come are you ready to accept jesus in your life there's another reason for this why this this third reason i think is the most compelling the most powerful of all it's the psychological problem that the jews posed to the church jesus was what jesus was a a jew this every jew knows see that one of our boys he made it to the top of his field that's i believe we're really right i wouldn't do that you ever do yeah probably it's one of our boys he made it to the top top top tom i remember when cardinal lustiger from from france she was a jew he's a jew when he was a teenager not a teenager but when he was a teenager he converted to christianity and he became the cardinal of france and i remember when he when he was alive people would ask me so do you think that he you think that he might become the pope i said i don't know if he will or not he's a jesuit so i was a lot of thought i don't think that will happen i said i tell you for sure one thing if cardinal lustiger would ever become the pope all the jews are going there walking around going like this put their chests out proud look at that one of our boys teddy made it to the top of his field give a look at this the credibility problem that the church poses to the that the jewish people post to the church is staggering jesus was a jew and the idea of a messiah is uniquely jewish this will come as a surprise to some of you the idea of meshiach did not exist in the greco-roman world it meant nothing the word christ meant nothing for the advent of christianity nothing judaism was the only monotheism in the world there was nothing else and it was deeply admired in the greco-roman world because alexander the great had a relationship with sheminat sadiq so therefore the jews had a unique status if we didn't fight with the romans if we didn't complain about taxes they would have been let us go on in fact even after the revolts judaism was a illicit religion in the empire completely legal christianity was not the jewish people have a a reputation for being fairly intelligent this didn't just start recently and it didn't just start when mark twain spoke about the uniqueness of the jewish people in the 19th century the jews always had a reputation for their intelligence the jews are the only people on earth that can read the bible in its original language the jew is the only one that's hoping for the coming of the messiah it's a jewish idea so that if jesus was the messiah who should have believed in him who obviously the jews yet the jewish people said with one voice we wish he was the mashiach but he's not and therefore is only the conversion of a judah christianity that can lend any credibility to that cross never the conversion of a gentile i remember speaking in in texas now when you're thinking texas you're thinking about the cities you've flown flown through many of you flown through dallas spent time in houston no this is a a place called nagadochas texas okay for those who don't know naga doges texas is right along the eastern border of the state of texas very close to louisiana that's eckveld texas that's really texas dallas is that's this is it and i was lecturing at the allen f austin university for a christian group that was there the place was packed it was it was it was a it was a very exciting evening it was with so many people it was uh it was really remarkable and the people there just could not imagine could not understand why the jews don't accept it why the jews don't accept jesus the jews of all people i mean our grandparents were were there in there who was in the heritage trail during the first third of the first century who was there puerto ricans no who was in eric's israel during the first century when christianity emerged it was the jewish people who are known for their intelligence their knowledge of tanakh who it was not a good time from the time pompei into jerusalem in 66 bce until it was just not a good time the first century was not an easy time in arizona the jews don't didn't accept jesus the messiah and therefore it is only the conversion of judah christianity that can lend any credibility to cross when i lectured at allen f austin university i could see a guy in the audience going he was definitely unhappy with what i just said and and he's he i have some what's on your mind see he stood up like this he's a rabbi i don't agree with anything you're saying isn't it true he argued that the first believers in jesus were jewish isn't it true that almost almost all the writers of the new testament jews with the exception of luke the gentile physician all jews the whole new testament written by jewish people except for luke the gentile doctor always found it interesting the one non-jew in the whole new testament a doctor all right so they were but the question is listen up the question is what sort of jews should they have been should they have been our knowledgeable jews those who who understood the jewish faith understood tanach under the sacred scriptures those who knew nothing about the faith they've been asked to abandon obviously there should have been if the claim is true that you look at your own bible jesus is there you'll find him he's bouncing off every page open the book of isaiah i'm going to pray for you jeremiah 31 he's right there daniel chapter 9 traces the exact moment of the cross open it now and pray to god to accept jesus in your life that's the claim of the church the claim of the church is that it is the truth the veracity of the christian claim could be illustrated by your old testament if that's the case who should these first jewish believers and jesus have been they should have been the tanayam but who were they they were tax collectors and prostitutes people who knew nothing about their faith who were the ones who said no who are the ones who said no with those who are knowledgeable it's not an accident my friends that to this day peter was a married man had children we know that from the new testament if you want to find one of his grandchildren good luck they're not counted among the jewish people today a contemporary who also appears in the christian bible is appears prominently in in the book of acts why if you'll ask me i'll explain to you but he's there okay it's a tana rebecamillo lived precisely at that time in the first half of the first century my great-grandmother my great-grandmother is a direct descendant of rabban um leon robert gamleo's descendants are here as jews peter's children are lost they lost the covenant [Music] only the conversion of the judah christianity could could relieve this anxiety this pressing existential problem in 1972 evangelical christians gathered in western switzerland luzon one of the oldest jewish communities in europe 1972 is a critical time you shelim had been liberated only five years earlier there was a messianic fervor not only in the jewish world but in the christian world as well you shalom is in our hands the liberation of yerushalayim at that time was just so prophesied in daniel chapter 8 verse 14 for those who love daniel and if you don't know daniel 12 chapters real easy it's yummy so we have daniel chapter 8 is devoted to two kingdoms the kingdom of persia and the and and the greek empire and we are told explicitly that from the time that alexander the great is not mentioned but from the time the greek empire would defeat the persians accounting forward 2 300 years jerusalem would be liberated and cleansed by the jews when did alexander the great uh defeat i don't know if any historians here when did this happen when the king of macedon defeated darius the persian the name of the battle the battle of granicus 334 bce late spring count forward 2 300 years and you're on june 7 1967 to the hour evangelical christians knew that the the end was coming and the jews needed to come to the cross they gathered in western switzerland to study the jewish people they recognize that in the past the church had utterly failed to convert the jewish people and they wanted to understand what new techniques could be used to finally bring the jewish people to the cross and they found that in fact the church had two unique problems with converting jews the first problem they discovered was a how should i say this a public relations problem why don't the jews want to become christians so they had a pr problem what was the pr problem jewish people they discovered tend to equate christianity with persecution i know right they realize that jewish people when they see when they see even when they see it salem they say across they see a priest with a long thing and here it's nothing here in america you see a priest he's just wearing a roman collar and there's a shell you see a priest he's got the shemina goodbye he's got you know helmets and outfits and things and chandeliers swinging like this and and smoke is coming out of his head and he's got big thing coming from the top i mean there they have the outfits that are unbelievable you know and then and you can see when jews pass them look what's going on there right here it's now it's all it's rain it's here it's anesthetized it's america after all but in your shall i am you see and you walk in the old city you see things oh you give a look at that three what they're doing over there that's it i never heard a jew go ah jesus christ what am i hired to hear those words say it again i want to get more knockers most jews don't want to hear it they never heard of it it's good enough it's close enough jewish people realize recognize you know in in in in manhattan real estate is so expensive it's so valuable that unlike come out any other place churches in manhattan are built right to the sidewalk because you can have like in your in balakinwood pennsylvania and you could just have a big lawn and the church is all the way you know with a no it's mama raising saint john the divine is right there right in your nose as you're passing by you know you obama see it what's going on right even the the in borough park uh holy ghost you know this has a little lawn but you can see the jews give a look and so when jews are passing by a church they timidly go and then they for a moment out of curiosity they go i wonder what they're doing in there right now and it's it's it's not a good thing it's like watching you know you know holocaust videos some dark video on hitler's life on youtube it's just dark jews the church's anti-semitism has is in our dna we're very aware of what is said about us the hatred about us the shoah would never have been possible without the christianity that shaped the thinking of not just germans but europeans who and that's why in fact japanese saved the mir yeshiva chinese saved jewish people because they weren't christians they weren't poisoned by this toxic iteration so therefore they realized that jews tend to equate christianity with persecution and they developed a technique that goes like this you're jewish are you jewish we love you baruch hashem we love the jewish people oh we love you and we love israel too we're very very very pro-israel we love the jewish people persecution oh no any christian that persecuted a jew in the name of jesus couldn't possibly be a real christian because a real christian just loves the jewish people as though martin luther was a hindu you know but that alone of course couldn't possibly work it couldn't work because it negates the real reason why jews don't want to be christians the reason why jews don't want to be christians they realized was that jews don't want to stop being jewish i'm not talking about you i'm talking about your cousin i'm talking about someone you care about who may not be that observant the jew but they jewish people are generally generally they're proud to be jewish when the nobel prize winner are are announced in the newspapers everyone's looking up is he a jew not a jew let me see i've got to look jews are proud of the jewish identity we are a ethno-religious group we are there's nothing else like that in the world we are both a nation and a faith and we're proud and jewish people they recognize understand that by converting to christianity you cease to be jewish and most jewish people do not want to leave their jew they don't want to stop being jewish and that's my friends where a second technique has developed that has been devastatingly successful and the technique goes like this when you're becoming a believer in jesus you are not converting to another religion oh no you're becoming a messianic jew a completed jew i brought this with me to give you a lot of knockouts this morning this is a a messianic training manual on how it's a training manual on how to share the messiah with the jew you notice even the the english word are really hebrew characters how did and they have a a communications card of how to effect this the training manual is very well put together things when speaking to a jew that you ought to say and when evangelion ju you ought not to say that's the big deal here when speaking to a jew some of this is very good advice oh here here's a good device when witnessing to a jew avoid anti-semitic terms okay they actually in case you're not sure what those terms are they actually have a list of what those terms are because you may not know you know so they give you a list such as la marshall doesn't say la marshall here such as down don't use the term like downwind try not to use a term like when actually witnessing to a jew that's i would think it's pretty hard to backpedal once kyx is out there it's hard to say i was taken out of context who did that lewis that the nation of islam farrikan he said judaism is a dirty religion a gutter religion and then when they confronted him what do you mean he said i was taken out of context completely christ killers also not a good idea dirty jew dirty jew also not a good idea and finally jew boy avoid jokes about the jewish people their money etc some jewish people are very sensitive about this it's permissible for them to tell jokes about themselves but it may be offensive for another to do it this was sent out recently in muncie this is if i ask you what is this book that i'm holding in my hands some of you may have a guess what this might be this is a this was sent out in muncie it's put in homes for the agent in heir to show and here in in rockland county this is a hebrew yiddish new testament sent to homes in rockland county which rocking county about 35 percent jewish if you send these out to muncie everyone who's going to receive this is going to be jewish the return address on these yiddish new testaments is was the local synagogue the communications card trains missionaries how to speak to jews a messianic soul winners card when speaking to there are two columns on this card there are two columns on this the column on your right says at the very top says don't say do not say don't say and the other column the one on your left says oh you could see from there when witnessing to a jew don't say jesus christ apparently jesus christ doesn't sound so jewish do say instead the messiah yeshua that's nice when witnessing to a jew don't say convert jews do not want to convert do say become a messianic jew a completed you a fulfilled jew don't say become a christian jews don't want to become christians do say become a messianic believer four important when witnessing a jew don't say come to church do not say come to church jews generally do not want to go to church they don't they can't argue jews are not plotting to go to church i never heard of a jew go time for miracle where's the church i've never heard this jews generally don't want to go to church they don't want to go to school i can get them into a church say come to a meeting of messianic believers don't say new testament say brit messianic passover haggadah there are messianic seders that take place not only here in the greater new york area but you can go on jews for jesus website put in your zip code they'll tell you with the closest messianic passover seder you can enjoy your messianic passover haggadah if you went to one don't go but if you did you would notice that the accoutrements on the table at the passover seder are would be familiar with you manisha it's the whole deal however once you listen to the to the ceremony you'd realize there are some striking differences there so they have their wine at their messianic passover seders but the wine you'll be told represents what the blood of jesus and the matzo why did jews have much of the center table to represent the body of jesus and do you know the reason do you know the real reason why jews have not one but three months at the seder table why versailles three to represent the holy trinity the father the son and the holy ghost do you ever notice that marches are perforated they have holes in them never notice that you think that's an accident the monsters are perverted because jesus was perforated he had holes in him the only that middle marta is broken jesus and wrapped in a white shemata wrapped in the right towel because jesus was wrapped in a white shroud you know why that monster is hidden behind the father because jesus was hidden away in the tomb you know why that matzah the alpha claimant is brought back at the end of seder because jesus will return every aspect of jewish worship has been has been altered in order to make it appear christological one point i shouldn't make and i don't want anyone thinking here that all christians are involved in this sort of chicanery and this aggressive effort um the roman catholic church today is not involved in jewish evangelism and neither is the orthodox church it doesn't mean there aren't jews who fight wind up in those churches but they're not involved in this the people we're going to be we're speaking about today are the christian right the evangelical born-again christians these are the christian zionists these are the people who are it's called the fancy term is pre-millennial dispensationalism pre-millennial dispensationalism these are the people who believe that the church had made a monumental error in that the jews were always chosen the catholic church insists that the jews are no longer chosen the orthodox church believes that the blessings that were originally given to the jewish people have been obligated completely and the church is the new israel in fact there are many names to this type of theology it can be called replacement theology covenant theology new israel theology of what these all have in common is that the church is the new israel and the jewish people have lost their chosenness and therefore the church would could never recognize yeshua as the capital of israel because all the church fathers said that the jews would never return it and that's why it took the vatican so long to recognize israel's sovereignty the jewish people would never return back to the land of israel and soon after all the church father said that adaraba that the the low state of the jew in his exile and that he would never return to islam and remember in the fourth century when rome became christian under constantine the harebias was was all just destroyed there was nothing and the christians looked at that with not with the with knackers and joy of the khurban on the harabayas showing that that temple was done with judaism was finished and augustine in his um in his magnum opus the city of god talks about this that the jew is only a witness people the world should look at the jew observe the jew in his low state and then they should people should realize that this is what happens to a jew who to those who reject the lord and moreover murder him the work of helping jews in the church is exciting it's exciting because we have a common text there are there are new phenomena that are occurring right now many of you know this that there are evangelical christians who are posing as orthodox jews who have infiltrated orthodox communities worldwide as we speak right now the one of the most jewish areas of chicago rogers park has a family right in the middle of the whole thing that looks like looks like someone who's who belongs in meijer and they're there right now we had a case in their destroy where we had a man who was a male he was a cipher he had a besden he was a cayenne and turns out he was not jewish and i exposed him we have right now as we're speaking in phoenix arizona the dawson family complete if i showed you the picture i didn't bring it and the sun looks more jewish than anybody in this room and they're running a shul in in phoenix arizona as we speak right now but they're going down they're going down because i'm exposing them constantly and you're seeing this in the news repeatedly we had an enormous case if you watched the video that introduced me last night we had evangelical christians who brought up channel 182 on hot tv for those who don't know this more than 50 percent of of israelis who subscribe to cable television subscribe to hot tv since 700 000 israeli homes and that channel was devoted god was purchased by god tv and that channel was devoted to evangelize israelis in the hebrew language and in israel so you're asking is it legal to do such a thing so there are two laws in israel associated with evangelism law number one is you cannot evangelize a child you can't expose a minor to evangelism 33 percent a third of israel's population are people who are below 18 years old number two is you cannot provide remuneration for getting baptized we shut that down and that was very exciting that guy you saw at the opening in the video last night ward simpson that ward simpson rose up and accomplished more in 15 minutes on television talking how we have to bring nine million israelis to christ he accomplished more in that 15 minutes than i did in 40 years we shut it down nerds israel so the work goes on but as i say to you is the answer in order to help the north to stop this cancer in our midst is the answer that we should train our sons and daughters in the christian bible that we should know the new testament by heart you'd be wasting your time kindle know the real thing know your own tanakh no safety ishayahu if you know your own scripture no missionary will be able to rob you of a faith in hakodate the work goes on my youtube channel is fairly large in the jewish world it's just my name tovia singer and there you could watch how i respond to christians extemporaneously all my shows that i do are live they're unscripted people call in from around the world and i respond to it i'm i will be this is the first time announcing it i will be engaging in a debate with a christian theologian in nashville tennessee this coming may and you're all welcome to join me uh but we're gonna have a very very good time on behalf of outreach judaism and really all the people that we've helped over the past 40 years i thank each and every one of you for joining me here today thank you um we do so what i'm going to do is i think we have like 10 minutes or questions is that correct so let me do that so any of questions we're going to do that i'll take your question and then your question what's that i will repeat the question christian sure believe that to bring back the jews the messiah their messiah will come is that all the christians no so liberal christians don't believe that at all i don't know really what they believe but for example episcopalians don't believe that and don't care about that so it's it's the fundamentalist evangelical warning in christians and we think that's marginal that's the largest uh voting block in the united states roughly 70 million americans identify as an evangelical fundamentalist dispensationalist dispensationalist means that they believe that the jewish people are still chosen and in fact israel not just tel aviv but every square inch of arizona belongs to the jewish people and the jewish people must be in the land of israel james belfort the foreign secretary of the united kingdom was a dispensationalist as many of the founder of the red cross so it's only them the hillary clinton type methodist liberal they're not into this they're not into this at all it's specifically the fundamentals the evangelical warning and christians what i'm suggesting is we're not getting a free lunch it's daft those who are pro-israel they are the only people who are involved in a systematic way in evangelizing injuries i know that's troubling to hear there's a young lady back there didn't know oh no okay yes sir one quick statement i want to ask your opinion i was looking for one knockout below so what i've been using is according to your theology the nazi that killed twenty thousand innocent innocent children because he believes in you and his own god of yours is gonna go to hell heaven but all the twenty thousand innocent children are gonna burn forever do you believe that is that true does that make sense to you to me i that shakes them up do you have any others well i'll i'll i'll give you your first training session on how to speak to an evangelical christian first of all yes the question if you asked a christian the the jews who i'll give you a very troubling anecdote in the early in the late 1950s israel captured the most wanted one of two of the most wanted nazi criminals and brought him from argentina to israel to stand trial for crimes against humanity his name he was the architect of the holocaust his name was adolf eichmann the prosecutor in the case was gideon housener he has a book good reading and called justice in jerusalem ackman was found guilty for his crimes and he was sentenced to be executed on may 30th 1962. two days before his execution he requested a dutch confessor and although the kadasham that he murdered did not have the opportunity to sit with the roof before they were murdered israel permitted him to sit with a minister and he accepted jesus as the lord and savior two days later he was executed in christian theology if his conversion was genuine he went to heaven and the jews that he murdered after all they didn't believe in jesus there in hell this is a very troubling reality for the church but most christians just don't think that way it might touch someone but in all my years i've never presented that the reason is there's a difference between what are true things that are very troubling things and what actually gets people out of christianity and in care of in general what's effective and what's effective is is not going in like a bulldozer and destroying the opponent but rather asking them to tell me what's important to you and respond to their questions when i debate i always go second so those who watched my debates with christians over the years i only i always go second i mean they make their point and if you notice i don't have any notes with me i don't have any i don't come with any laptops and shmaptops nothing i have no agenda i don't know what i'm going to say i listen to what he says and then i respond i use my opponent's arguments as a way to bounce off to gain the the the energy to then just completely destroy it and show it's connected on tires so if the goal is and i know it is yours to help this lost soul come back to the truth and beauty of judaism while what you said is true but ineffective it is so um explosive that's very hard for them to deal with that and i don't think that's that's persuasive in the way you want it to be it would certainly make them think moreover one of the one of the reasons why i find that that approach doesn't work very well is that many of the christians they meet are just nothing like that and many they don't the people they meet the christians are really nice evangelicals john hagee types and therefore it doesn't resonate with them so it's true yes the church believes mark chapter 16 verse 16 if you believe within you're baptized you're saved and you believe with not you're damned right yes sir as i understand uh being that memphis connecticut was largely funded by texas evangelicals his nephew really tries hard and it's true that evangelicals give a lot of money to it but never never is run by some really precious souls and i know some of them and i know a lot of them and um and they they try really hard to weed out who the missionaries are uh if a jew converts to christianity whether they call it messianic or whether they called catholic a person cannot make aliyah under the law of return and the problem we have is that once they get in once they get in the door it's almost impossible to undo it michael l cohen came in as a jew if i told you how he got jewish papers you would lose your mind how he pulled this off but anyways he got jewish papers and he was running a business as far as they were concerned so now to undo michael l cohen's um citizenship is nearly impossible once getting in is challenging or could be challenging for some people but once you're in the system it's very very hard for israel to take away your citizenship but no the the never shipping members really does an amazing job and they're worthy of support and the evangelicals give and they don't give because they're trying to convert jews to christianity they are giving because they believe that in order for jesus to make a second coming the jews have to be in the land of israel in one sense this idea which was promoted in the 19th century by john nelson darby born in england came to the united states and preached these ideas it wasn't an anti-semitic thing or a conversion thing he believed that the church had been wrong up until this point and in fact the jews must be in the promised land they are chosen the the chosenness can never be obligated in tanakh and it's very clear that the covenant that god made with israel's forever and therefore the jews must come back to the land of israel it was christians who had enormous impact on american thinking enormous the scofield bible all of that um moody all these preachers all preached that the jews have to return back to israel so navishman nephew is doing a terrific job and i'm very proud of them and i work with them very closely okay any other questions yes just speak a little louder here i understand how the missionaries will be especially unaffiliated i don't understand the missionaries that plant themselves in very orthodox circles like do they even have a chance is it a threat to people that are living into our life the missionaries like the guy in israel like that you mentioned with the base team like what are they doing in a jewish we don't know each other i don't know you yeah but i would imagine that you would be pained and deeply pained if tonight you went home and went on youtube and watched a sophomore girl standing in a baptismal pool in new york except jesus as a lord and savior and being baptized i think you'd be troubled to inherit to show to meet people who are mama that get involved in these groups who come from the show homes that was one of the things that persuaded me that i had to come to arizona is because i was seeing i was watching observing jews who were come from a hurried background who were getting involved in this and you're going how is it possible what happens is that there are a lot of people who have broken the hearts they have a broken heart shattered dreams there are people in the charade community who feel betrayed by the very people that should have protected them they feel alienated isolated they look in the mirror and they don't see someone pretty or attractive they see someone ugly and they feel alone in the world and the christians were there and we weren't arya kaplan many many years ago who wrote a small book about missionaries for ncsy said to me said for many of these kids the it's just a matter of who gets to them first so in the in the hasidis because quite a few kids my hebrew is is pretty good my yiddish is fluent there's quite a number of people that i had to that i counseled in yiddish because it was the conversation went smoother i know this seems almost un but it is but it's not from the passages it's not from the verses it's the christian that was nice to them she was struggling in an abusive marriage that and look you know the deal you know the problems i don't need to tell you these are the people who are very vulnerable and by infiltrating the signature community there's a special online if you write to me i'm going to put my cards here and put my cards right up here if there are missions just to convert them to christianity there are special missions just to convert satmar hasidim to christianity there and they teach all about all the traditions and customs of those communities how to dress and so on it's not an accident then chosen people ministry the oldest mission of the jews in the united states built their center in flatbush this is not an accident they're there to convert jewish people who come from orthodox homes we have time for one more question yes as a postscript and a point of curiosity when you were initially in jaipur for the three days how did you get the 516 folks to learn shallow momentum they didn't they knew it from their grandparents yeah that's all they knew they all they knew was shalom alec that's all they knew so they were they sang it beautifully so these were all jews that means they knew they were jewish look indonesia there hasn't been a rabbi there for since world war ii right you know and indonesia was very excited to have me there the muslims happened to love me as a caveat and when they and they they actually called me the chief rabbi although i didn't have any competition it wasn't like running against anybody but um they all knew that they were jewish and they remember it from their parents and grandparents and great-grandparents so therefore that was the song they knew that's all they knew was shalom aleichem that was it and i just it was sung which i can hear it now they they took the roof came off they sang it with the cole rum with such joy and such excitement and again a wednesday night in in the on the island of popple a nile enormous island shared by two countries and hearing sham alekhim and hearing them and this is their way of accepting all mahou i mean it was just also i'm sure you're aware the largest real estate land holder in new york city is the church yes yeah and it so goes in your slime as well all right i'll take one more question yes um so there's a lot of people that are involved in care of but i've never heard of so many people getting involved with like fighting off the christians do you feel like there's a need for that as well like i'm saying do you mean like meaning that like you think that there should be more of a movement that more people will get involved with that kind of thing oh yes there's a reason why i have a fairly large youtube channel and part of the reason is i don't want to die with the recipe in order to do what i do it can't be part time it's those of you here who know me and some of you do know this is all i do from when i wake up till i go to sleep and sometimes it's very late as i'm talking to people in the church or helping family this is all i do and i'm doing i'm broadcasting usually on average about three interviews a week i'm just doing a lot of it but part of it is i should lift 120 but part of it is is that i want this information to be out there i wrote those books so that i don't want anything to die with me so the information is there when i wrote let's get bible when i did the audio series back in the 19 early 1990s i did it because i wanted to preserve the information so that others would understand so yes there are other people who to one degree or another are i guess trying to do what i'm doing but in fact it just because the question i'm asked very frequently but it doesn't requires a person to devote your you have to devote your entire life to this it's not a a part-time thing this is not and there's it's just a specialty that's so narrow there's so few people that do it that um there are not that many people who who there are some and there are so many people who are learning more and more and that's mama shkovali that's fantastic but it does require also a strong stomach you're reading christian toxic christian literature let me tell you when you i'm not encouraged any of you to read the gospels but if you read it you would be mortified to see how anti-jewish how anti-semitic it is it's you don't realize what's in it and if you did you wouldn't hate christians so much what i mean by that is that the text is so it's the it's the protocols of the elder's design it's basically a conspiracy about how the jews conspired to kill jesus and they knew that he really was a messiah and did it anyway that's why the jews in christian theology and especially in the new testament are portrayed are characterized as the devil why are jews called the devil and it literally says that in john chapter 8 verse 44. this is a very deep this is a very deep point that the jews are the devil what does that mean that you're the devil so most people don't understand what's shocked the devil it's it's rather a sophisticated theology in christian theology the devil is a very unique creature if you asked a christian does the devil really know that jesus is the messiah does he know the truth so every christian will say yes he does but he didn't he denies and he's the arch enemy of god no matter what you see the in the where is he in in judaism we're using the word sudden meaning a certain way sudden is an angel or an entity that is working on for hashem to give us free will before you i place life and death good and evil you must choose life that you may live so sudden is in the words of a victor miller a brachio because without sudden there would be no hero we would never have created but celebrate him and virtue would be impossible and christian theology this is all unknown the devil was really the highest of all angels called lucifer and he because of his arrogance went to battle against god and he is an enemy of god he knows the truth but because of his arrogance is very pagan those of you who study theology and religion highly dualistic the this idea you'll find in the persian gods and in the levant and la and far beyond so therefore when the church identifies the jews as the devil what they are saying is they're not saying that the jews never don't understand yes when they go to africa and they find people in some tribe and they don't know they never heard we'll preach the gospel they'll hear to them the jewish people know the truth that's why we put three monsters in the passover seder because we really do know about the trinity but we deny him anyway and only the devil can do that and that's why the germans could say about the jews that they are untrue mentioned subhuman what does that mean subhuman subhuman means that they are enemies of god not because of their lack of knowledge it's because of their knowledge and because and according to paul all the the gospels record that the jews really understand but god has put a veil over the rise second corinthians chapter three and four and they just are blinded by this they the jewish people are miraculously blind and they are the enemies of god first thessalonians chapter 2 verse 14 through 16. if you read it you think you're reading a a ku klux klan manual i mean it's it's very very ugly so that's the answer okay any other question full time for this could you say that because we all can't dedicate on full-time uh this entire project what's the takeaway what's the message to all of us regularly yeah i want to recruit i so you're asking someone who's biased right so i have a dog in this raid i i hope that one of you here will decide they know what i'm going to study this a little bit more and when you the first jew you meet who's in the church does truva it's going to change who you are as a person and will change your goals in life maybe okay so i i am i want to be very transparent here i i hope that some of you will listen to the sometimes difficult words you've heard here this morning and yours you'll begin to study this material and you will make a decision in your life that you want to bring back the israel the jews who are in the darkest place back to the truth and the beauty of the jewish faith thank you very much for having me [Applause]