Radio Show Tisha B'av 2022 UNEXPECTED

welcome to the show everybody it's another year as we get to the end of another Tish above you know every year when we walk away from a show like this I I think in our hearts we hope the next year we get to do this during the times of gaula we'll be back here with you again is bittersweet we get towards the end of Tish above as we pass through teach us that we move into the world of Hope we can almost feel the nakama of Shabbat but we still have tishaba very much with us in the world of rochnius the kadusha only grows and only builds when you're in the world of physical the beginning is always the the most energy and over time it wanes but in the world of the spiritual is not like that in the world of spiritual as something builds it gains strength the end of Yom Kippur is its strongest point in the ELA the end of Shabbos the sadiqam teaches is called derive at the highest point in the world of spiritual it only grows it doesn't wane and so Tish above now as our strength physically wanes our spiritual strength only grows all of that we have done until now is sitting on the floor the moments of where we had a bit of reflection maybe even a little bit of Tears the stories the speeches the videos it all culminates in these next two hours and so as you may feel less with less strength physically that's okay because the physical strength starts to go down it only gives expression to more spirituality and it's an honor to be with you now we've got an incredible show and we're talking about very much the tissue of topic of Triumph through tragedy you know it's amazing when you think about it Hashem has us go through tragedy he has us go through challenge some could have stepped in and prevented it he could have said okay fine you didn't come back and chew her but I'm not going to bring this much Soros it's an amazing thing when you go through Jewish history you find this enables the tragedy unfortunately and what happens from the tragedy is we as a nation somehow find something that we never had before but for the tragedy the nation that we have today is not the nation that we were before we grew we adapted we changed we took things on the whole concept of the talmud bobly is a is a is it is an exercise from tragedy tarshiba alpazid came down in its different forms it wasn't smooth it wasn't easy but it changed us it it made us into a different people tragedy challenge discomfort it does different things and no one should ever want it and we should never have it any longer it should be the end of tragedy and it should not come on us or on our children ever again when we look backwards and we see what's happened in the past we have to look at it from the eyes of what emerged from tragedy because the story of tishabo in the last few hours of Tish above is not the story of tragedy any longer the story of Tish above in the last few hours of Tish above the story of how do you emerge from tragedy how do we emerge from destruction how do we use destruction to rebuild something bigger today as we sit on the floor so to speak for the last few minutes as we muster whatever strength we have left we have to focus on this so that we become more resilient so that we stand up stronger than we sat down 24 hours ago so we teach our children and ourselves the the way of our forefathers strengthening merging being bigger and better through tragedy so that when we get up this time hopefully we will never go down again and the show is going to be all about it I'm going to begin the show with an excerpt from the film Project Inspire create an incredible film this year about this Triumph through tragedy I'm going to talk about it and we've got of course Jesse Freeman's on his he'll be on in a moment my partner over here we're going to talk with different guests we have an incredible lineup for you but let's begin let's go to the clip in the clip was talking about the story of people's lives and then this clip in particular it's about it's about an individual whose life and if you've seen this film you you've seen this you've watched it but this story of someone whose life completely turns around and you'll see it happening in just how his life emerges from try tragedy to Triumph check this out [Music] we sold the house we live by Brooklyn side in Staten Island and we moved to uh another and opposite end of the night by New Jersey side we thought it was like far away from everybody we didn't even realize it was a Jewish neighborhood we weren't looking for Judaism at that point in our life we were just looking to move away run away one day I was I was headed to Pennsylvania to a place that I that that we stay in the summer and I'm wearing a bright yellow wrestling tank top with shorts I get on my car at that point because I wanted to double check make sure I packed everything I'm standing in my trunk and all of a sudden I you know I see this guy that looks like a rabbi walking down the street that's his wife I said to him excuse me what are you doing here this is I live down the block I said I'd like to meet your parents he says Dave sure take the number and he gave me that number and uh and that was and he gave me his number I said have a have a great time my son called me he tells me mommy uh probably Ruben and lazy Rubin will come and meet you and I'm like okay so I'm sitting here waiting for them sitting waiting waiting waiting a few nights later at about nine o'clock and the night I said to my wife let's take a walk and let's go visit these people she said it's nine o'clock you can't I said you know we're not we'll try one of my rebellion was and he at the fledgling stage way before Ura or anything else he used to walk around in Staten Island and look at for Windows during Hanukkah time see who had a you know on the windowsill and he would knock on the door and ask them what they try to introduce himself and ask them would they like to send their son to a Yeshiva he was sincere and I observed the Headway he made so we rang that Bell I opened the door and I see a couple and I kind of clipped to me because I didn't meet anybody else here they told me who they are and I'm like oh my gosh how are you what took you so long we've been waiting for you and welcome back we're here we're gonna see a little more of those clips later on in the show I am here joined with an individual who I've sat next to for a very long time Jesse Friedman is here with us the executive director project Inspire and the co-host of this program yes see it is because it's good to see you and to have you back I'd rather see you in my hometown I'd rather be in your hometown and you shall I am but you know as we were calling her you mentioned something to me for those who've been watching you know you had said this is I think our 10th year doing this I think it is our 10th year and it was before email was created so it's hard to go back you know and find all the emails and communication but we started in now from stegos Studio on the Lower East Side just on a radio show it's just radio back then yeah and uh Robey tourski and his Gail has been uh our hostels yeah they've been our host and want to thank them as well yeah uh so Charlie this this little clip you know amazing this little clip that you showed is really a uh we sort of those have been following the project as participal films we sort of went back to what we call Outreach stories with impact meaning you know many years we've we did a film on Weinberg as an individual we may have just that we did a film on on Ronnie Greenwald and Runway freifeld Etc and this year we decided to go back to there's been you know so many incredible stories that have happened through the work of projects but more importantly the work through the regular firm community and the Outreach efforts that they've made and really we found two stories that were not only on message for us but were Blow Away stories for all those all those who did not see the film yet they can get it on projectinspire.com what happens now today because today we live in a time where like you know there's not enough hours in tishov to watch the Torah and tissue buff you know I'm saying it used to be like you went to the shul and you're out by spoke I think today it's like 17 000 hours for 24 hours yeah I think I said it before but somebody sent that a message saying he already saw two Holocaust videos and his wedding video does anyone else have anything else sad to watch you know so it's been in that day but it's certainly better than a lot of other things that people could be doing but but just be told this film is really like you mentioned is a story about a a family who you know throughout the process of their life things happen and they had to move and I tried to pitch myself like you moved to an unknown neighborhood and Hashem had it that they fell right into the hands of not only the from Community but ramesha Rubin which you know and the rest is history we really was learning today you know it's real doing amazing but it just shows the power of what people uh knocking on a door and that line which we're gonna expand a little bit we're gonna have a pace that cronon later in the show we're gonna have a double gold Watcher Mrs Ruth lookingstein we're gonna have um Nuremberg who you might not have heard of oh are you kidding me I'm having night I don't think she said her name but but the woman who uh miraculous fell off the cliff survived the Niagara Cliff um falling Abrahim Samson of course the family director of project Inspire many more so stay tuned we have a long show we have an incredible guest we have incredible listen of guests we have a Dr Blumenthal with us here live in the studio it goes on and on and and keep watching because when we're done here like Gary well esteem is fine this thing we're kakash cake and orange juice awaits us we'll get more on Robbie Wallace team later on in the show oh so Charlie just to go back to this film you know and I think that project inspires message over the years is very unique because there's many Outreach organizations and they're all they do all amazing work you know as well the uniqueness of project Inspire is that we want the religious community from Community not only to facilitate here which is to be a Shabbos host and to learn one-on-one with harusa but also to generate care of activity reach out to the people they see go knock on the door like you saw in that film right go get the people who otherwise have no road back that's what we're trying to create and so this film is very much that uh that was the one piece of the film but the other piece which we're going to leave to our viewers to watch on their own again for those who still have not uh project inspired.com I just want you to reviewers to take this down as well we can you can WhatsApp us live over here you can WhatsApp us live at 718-285-0995-718-285-0995 or radio at projectinspiring.com you can email us live uh if you have any messages anything to share any comments or things that you would like us to mention here on the show feel free we're we're standing by the back story of the what we'll call the Surfside piece is was our convention um where we asked Martin langsfield whose boy who's featured in this film to come in and we sort of have to remind people because this is fortunately we're unfortunately is how we work is that the Surfside collapse while you know it's sort of in our rear view mirror is very real to a lot of people especially to someone like Martin so at our convention we had Martin langsville there and before Martin came on we actually played a clip over there which we call the Surfside club which brings us back to that day which is just a little bit more than a year ago back into Surfside Florida let's see that clip part of Surfside Florida condominium building Came Crashing Down collapsing into a pile of rubber [Music] firefighters risking their own lives searching for possible victims and even now officials fear the rest of this building could come down at any time foreign Jewish communities across the state are praying and sending support to everyone in pacted by the Surfside condo collapse while many of the families affected by the collapse were of Jewish faith they say the donations here at the shul of bal Harbor are for everyone affected tell us what we're seeing here we had truckloads of people bringing so many supplies such an airport helping out the people that really need anything and that's what we're here for they took this little snack bar at the community center and they turned it into this Bistro that eventually delivered 3 000 kosher meals a day to families awaiting word of their loved ones and First Responders an Israeli search team is also on the ground helping miami-dade's Urban search and rescue Force very still hope always and I hope that we will succeed it was a deeply emotional ceremony tonight filled with Applause and gratitude as the Israeli Crews prepare to leave and family members had a chance to thank First Responders face to face [Music] foreign [Music] it's painful you just wish you were in a dream sometimes strong words from Martin langsfeld who lost his sister and his brother-in-law in the Surfside condo collapse foreign [Music] while this is so powerful so you played this at the convention and Martin was there Martin was there and he speaks now I'm not gonna I'm not gonna bore you with the speech we have a long show here but it's worth watching if the film is there but at the end of his speech at the convention he went off script and that's for you Charlie I almost had a heart attack you know what I'm saying like you know every minute Off Script and he he turns to the crowd and he talks to the way I mean this is a guy who lost his sister lost everything and saw the firm Community as he saw in the film rally around right and the rest of it is in the film and he turns to the crowd I want to play this it's a short clip of how he turns directly to the crowd at the convention and speaks directly to them and before I finish up and say thank you to everyone here for listening to me and say we will never forget Surfside these past two days we heard many speakers from all parts of the world with many different professional respectful backgrounds and when they finish speaking everyone in the crowd gets up clapsed and admires the person speaking that's not the reason I'm here I'm not here so you can clap for me and for my story I'm here because of you so when I finish up now and I say thank you I want you all to clap and look at the person next to you and saying thank you to them because you all make a difference and I really mean it you guys are amazing so thank you everyone wow yeah and that's the message I mean that message is you are all amazing because it's the people in that room and it's the people all around us that really make that difference and Charlie before I move on I want to thank for your first little mint media Maisha Schindler and his team for a spectacular film The Unexpected film of course Danielle Haas who worked the entire production and all the work the back end work I want to thank daily giving for everything that they do I mean they were all over the film I just want to point out for those watching that um Jonathan donath reached out to me today said there isn't a single partner event that's non-daily giving event that has generated this many signups both the last year so really it's unbelievable and of course Torah anytime I mean could we can we move on with Tisha but without uh mentioning Torah anytime who uh who really are all over the place so thank you to all of you and that's really a story that's the back story of the film of unexpected before we move on I want to just make one point that I don't I think we take this for granted and I think this is I think one of the things we mistaken we spoke about Triumph from tragedy the reason why we can do Triumph from tragedy is because we do it together and I think as a community we just sort of assume that you know recently I was talking to a friend of mine who lost somebody close to him and he was explaining like the whole experience of loss was like his like 12 close family and I'm trying to explain to them would somebody lose someone in the Jewish Community like there's a million people that roll through that person's life and he couldn't even believe that we know a million people I'm like I don't we don't know them directly but we're so interconnected like it's in it we take that for granted that what has what gets us through what Martin said at the end is something that we were like what and I I don't want to I don't wanna I don't want to just run through it I want to like pause it for a second and we all need to like take a deep breath and appreciate that like we're part of a web of incredibleness in the fact that we're all in it together you know and that's Charlie really that's that's the point and they would that's what he was trying to bring out he's like I didn't even know you guys I didn't even know you guys I don't know who you I don't even know that these people existed in my backyard but when I needed you you were there for you you were there that's how we roll you know we've got a great guest on Dr Norm blumenthal's with us in the in the studio Dr lumenthal is a licensed clinical psychologist who serves as the Director of trauma services for old oil's actors oh hells zachter family National trauma center and adjunct professor at the rabbi Isaac and Theological Seminary and farkov Graduate School of psychologists both of you University in private practice in Cedarhurst doctor in New York Dr lumenthal is also the founder and chairman of the board of education for kahal and the past vice president of nephish Dr Blumenthal welcome to the show you are a busy man doing incredibly good things for the Jewish people okay it's an honor to be part of this thank you so much for being here we're talking about really trying from tragedy and and maybe help us understand both the concept of trauma and tragedy I know it's impossible to ask you in a few minutes of a radio show at the end of tishop of nonetheless but maybe create if you can some context of what people go through and how some people can sort of emerge out of it stronger okay so the type of trauma that you're talking about there are many different types of trauma but the type of trauma you'll talk about is that sudden unpredictable event we thrive on redundancy unpredictability and life is predominantly predictable I'm redundant every once in a while there is that curveball every once in a while there's that bump in the road and very often those are tragic and painful and what people that of course throws all of us off and and takes away from us our sense of trust and predictability and we have to sort of rewrite the script the very sort of re sometimes I call it redesigning the landscape of our world to incorporate and make sense of this tragedy and that's a lot of what you're talking about today so how does one do that how does one I know it's it's complicated but just for a few minutes how well let me say easier how how did we do it sort of collectively what what are some of the lessons that you see when you look at the world you look at it from a different lens than the rest of us because you have a professional lens you look at so what when you see people that have thrived in these unpredictable worlds that that have come at them what do they have you know what like you know it's like what was the secret what was the sauce that they had that made them stronger and not weaker right so uh it's interesting sometimes people ask me how I can do all this work and tragedy and with loss Etc and one of the answers I give them is I don't just see tragedy and loss I I see a lot of strength I see a lot of resilience and I see a lot of love and companionship I see a lot of people rallying together to help one another and that kind of balances it makes it even tolerable for me so that doesn't erode my sense of safety and predictability but we we do have have inherently a capacity to Hashem gave us those strengths it's a little bit like the referral for the marker we have enormous capacities to adjust and adapt uh obviously the first reaction is one of shock and horror but the shock and horror is necessary in fact sometimes when I have to I'm present either when something just happened or if I do a death notification and the person is having that horror and that shock response and the people around them want them they're trying to get him stop and I've come no they need that they need that that's to shake things up that's sort of to bring in that realization that the world that they lived in until now is now different and then comes the healing now the healing a lot of it comes from with inside a lot of it comes from not people giving them advice and telling them what to do but from just being there for them just enveloping them with love and care and not treating them like they have a communicable disease and a lot of it does come from a traditional culture or from culture in general that there is a that there's a Concept in psychological post-traumatic growth and we see it universally among all people a lot of studies after 9 11 particularly by Tadashi and Calhoun showed how people will change their lives as a result of it having gone through a tragedy but the nature of the change is very much determined by your background and your culture and what you've been taught feel that so much of yiddishkite is getting you towards that and what we have I think culturally injuries and I think also conceptually in terms of the different the information and how what we what what we're learning in the moon does that all translate so to speak into into that picture I will tell you three facts first of all spirituality does spirituality elevates you beyond what's happening immediately spirituality means you believe there is an ultimate good even if it feels bad now I just heard this morning that that way you know why do we associate the suffering from the urban to the birth pains because yes the woman is suffering but everybody who's in the waiting room knows this about something very happy is about to happen so knowing that that concept is important the unity the sense of belonging it's very interesting I was once speaking to the head chaplain of New York City Police Department and she told me that police have much more what we call secondary trauma which is a trauma of the helpers much more second day trauma than firefighters and you'd wonder why they both deal with tragedy but she explained that in the police department precinct this squad car goes here this squad car goes there the firefighters go as a unit and come home as a unit and that's what we do is from Jews we live together we work with a unit the other thing by the way that cannot be downplayed is our masara a tradition research shows that people who know about ancestry will know about their background have more resilience than those who don't yeah and particularly those who where the narrative the family narrative is one what we call the oscillating narrative which is one of hardship overcoming it in the heart of overcoming it well let's go through safer braces yeah there's a lot of that and so therefore having that tradition and having that sense of ancestry yeah we just went through it feels like in very in very much the way what we went through in little kids learning from their parents that they're sitting on the floor and today I wasn't sure in the morning and they're going through the stories of when the mother's eating babies and they're kids in the world I'm thinking there are kids in the room like why are you saying this for this he's 12. but like he's got it and like the 12 year old like hears it and he becomes 15 and 18 and like you said and then he goes in he's here he sits at a Seder and they say be sham dashem takes care of it like if you just look at our calendar there's all these like we oscillate as as a people both on a an annual cycle and on a historical cycle I've always come out on the same day look at that look at that though interestingly you know we obviously went through this in the in the in the in the project inspired film but it's it's common where people take a tragedy that happened to them and they they sort of go they take it to the to another level whereas they start to become ambassadors or spokespeople for for that cause is that something that's considered a healthy I know people are doing it is that is that a way to cope is does that go beyond that I mean there's some people who want to become this you know promote the cause but then it's sort of like falls off and then there are those who are really able to make I mean we we ourselves no organizations that were built on on tragedies right well I should tell you something interesting besides as I was mentioned besides running the trauma department for oil which is really because my primary function I teach at DC Universe I teach medical students and I teach a course on bereavement for these future rabbis and the way I structure the courses is one week is lecture and one week I invite someone who suffered loss and an atypical loss a loss of an infant loss of a child sibling a young widowhood even parents who lost a child to suicide and they meet with the students and when I first started this when I first would ask some of these people to to come and present to my students I was worried you know what they'd want to you know would have open up a wound would they be hesitant to open talk so personally in front of strangers not only have I never gotten a no but when I called them afterwards to thank them they say they want to thank me because again they're feeling they're doing something in memory of their loved one they're taking the tragedy and they're doing something constructive with it which is a tribute to the loved one who died so I think that's exact exact example I think it's very healthy and probably one of the most common forms of post-traumatic growth is the wish to help others who are in the same predicament is it something that we can take away as we get the end of Tish above as you put the pieces together of the national tragedy that we have and like you said the predictability of life and the need of that can can somebody do something today to to make them more resilient to build the resilience muscle hopefully if everything's okay you know saying like hopefully we go to the shop is but like in this process if you will can people hear this and what can they do to be more resilient in general so you know they they often a trip this Rama Manuel but it really Winston Churchill who said that a Christ is a terrible thing to waste um and a tissue is a terrible thing to waste and if we're going to walk away from this heart-wrenching day in our calendar the same we were before um it was a crisis wasted that doesn't mean we have to do something Monumental small little increments little changes sometimes more uh lasting and more important than our bricks that we build to make ourselves stronger and better people but again I would focus on all the issues that I mentioned I have spirituality how much do we Infuse Hashem and our belief in Hashem and that Hashem ultimately is doing is heading Us in the right direction how much we Infuse that into our conversations into our education how much are we connecting to others how much are we refraining from being judgmental and critical but connecting to others and solidifying the community how much are we talking about our heritage and our background amazing yeah I mean this is a day this is a day where you know sometimes people take it to two extremes either it sort of goes by as a waste or or people want to take on too much right you know and then it falls away and I think this goes to the point of like like you mentioned small things small uh you know thinking about the small things that'll it'll hopefully stick right and then we'll make next to next dish above yeah it's so amazing as I'm hearing speaking thinking about all the parts of how the Yiddish kite is like preparing us for resilience and how it's a normal way of saying No this is the latest Hashem is like putting into the our whole way all the and we just have to be aware of it appreciate it and keep on running with it right because he's preparing us to be a resilient people it's an amazing concept how science is catching up the Hashem it's great when that happens right and I'll tell you once we in in this class and why I we brought in someone had terrible tragedy I want to specify because maybe she doesn't want to be quoted and the guys asked her is there anything in Torah that gives you inspiration and she said yes say fabricious and this is not a fancy Robinson who appears on your show you know gonna but she had a terrible tragedy and and he said because you know the others that she put it that they didn't walk on water they didn't move mountains you know they lived regularized but they had every tragedy one could think of uprootings warfare uh family Strife infertility the uh death during childbirth you name it they had it and they they felt the emotions the emotions are enumerated they faced them and they triumphed over them and that's her inspiration that's what keeps her going wow doctor thank you so much for joining us my pleasure honor to be here and thank you so much that I'm hungry it's part of the idea that's why we do this right yeah and by the way just while we're on it our Hawaii is really get the credit for this because they're at home not only you know hungry themselves with the hungry kids and everything they don't have the husbands crutching one down thank you thank you so much thank you wow that was amazing and I think it's so important to hear what he was saying to hear the doctor's words and that as we as we as we move into the world of Triumph from challenge to see that the Torah has given us so many pieces to this it's what he was saying is unbelievable and he was quoting the science behind it but when you think and he said this when you think through how the Torah has been giving us the frame for this for so many years it's it shows just so how much you know Hashem is building us into the nation that we're supposed to be really I mean that and that's it and that's it and how small things meaning safe operations didn't happen in the day either yeah you know it was a building it was building blocks you know but I would I there's one part that that I I want to double click on first of all the stuff that we spoke about earlier that I just want to make sure that we're reviewing the the peoplehood like this is really a big deal like and we can't take it for granted that we're one nation we hook each other up and he said at the empathy that being there for each other but it's also the ability to lash around the world to drop you know I'm saying like when you let Hashem Run the World a little bit like you start to see whatever's going on I hope we should only have good things and everything should be wonderful you have to see everything in your life as being connected to something greater and it helps get through and I think that was the message we started with even with even with the film where like you know why did this happen was it was is there a light at the end of the tunnel not every not every tragedy sees oh I get it you know it's like it was because of this you know right sometimes you do get to see it and that's an inspiration for the times that you don't see it right you know okay I want to go uh on Zoom we have with us Samson of course the founding director of project Inspire who's been with us I think every show for 10. I think so it's 10 years 10 years I think is the cat is the Cal Ripken award I think yeah you know we're speaking about not only the film which was really what a quote unexpected um I just want to remind the viewers again that radio or projectinspire.com or you can WhatsApp us at 718-285-0995 uh for your questions comments and things you'd like us to speak about on the show everybody was thinking about the film unexpected and the concept of things happening in people's lives they really throw things off kilter and you think sort of like where do you go from here like there's no there's nowhere to go from here and yet Hashem running the world and you know people dealing with things like Dr Bloomfield just mentioned to be able to you know to grow to grow from that unexpected or uh unwanted we'll call it called it post-traumatic growth post-traumatic growth right now that we know the technical term of his Amazon that'll help you you your take on the on this message and the message of the film yeah I mean listen I I have to say as I'm hearing all of this and thinking about it and the prophes and the response that we've had from people um is incredible it has really touched something inside of people that it's so deep it's so real it's so personal and profound and the question is really you know and that's why so what exactly is that so one of the things and there's many many different aspects but one of the things that reminds me of and you know in my capacity is as you know a founding director of project inspired professional resolver to have a 26 year relationship with North Weinberg and I think we all know that what he would share with people yes he was into Kira but I think the most basic message that he gave to everybody was that you have to see that the Roberto shot allows you all all the time his love is streaming through every second and it may not be in the ways that you expect you know it's unexpected and and what is greatness in life a great person is somebody who's able to see that even times of difficulty you feel and you see and you understand that a country boy whose love is coming through and you make the right decisions based on that and I think that's what gives real greatness in life and I I may have shared this people previous times but one time I remember and it was a very profound moment I was walking down with with the receiver of North weinberg's itself in Manhattan and I you know he was my ready I would share everything with him and I remember there was something a difficult thing that was going on in my life and I was complaining you know we choose we could complain and he stopped in the middle of the street and he looked at me and he's a big man and he started shouting me is it high in you're crazy and they said I I was very taken I said why did you think if the things don't go the way you want Hashem doesn't love you you're crazy it he does love you it's just not going the way that you'd expect and he said it was such a power and a force it got through somehow into my being a little bit a little bit that you know what just understand that you may not see the sun behind the clouds but it's there it's really there and I think that that's what you know in my life I've seen that and I think that this is what comes from this film is that when you feel that when you're able to be real with the fact that Hashem really loves it it's his love is behind it and and this difficult situation is is yes it is difficult and we don't want to take away the pain and we want to feel the people when they go through difficult situations that's part of caring and that's what we saw ottom in the film but in in in terms of our ability to realize that and I think that you know you see that with with Martin so much you know that he's I mean to the extent that you know it was what a painful situation he was able in himself and if you know Martin and broccoli's become a very close friend and I speak to him you know a couple of times a week but in Israel how's he doing you know he has that within him that feeling of you know of course the pain will never go away and he says that on the film The Pain never goes away you know but how you understand that there's goodness there and that you can grow from and he in a very courageous way has done that has felt that goodness and that love of God and of people and made some incredible decisions based on you know and Charlie this goes to your point as well which is that you know as always Sam's mentioning is that like you know you're never alone in this as well I mean what he felt was that it's not only like you know Hashem running the world which he might not have come to yet but he but he sees the community that he never knew existed you know giving giving giving and more importantly you know it's there is there's there's a concept of of of him seeing the individuals within the group as well that means you know it's not lost on him that oh there's this group called the religious communities every single person who is there to help him we're gonna speak to him and Sam said a second ago I mean just to double click on it is that this is what he said earlier about part of the way that you overcome and you have post-traumatic growth is the Allowing God to run the world right and that sort of Noah's Point like let God do what God does like stop playing chess you know what I'm saying like that's how it works uh you know Charlie anytime anyone gave to Austin for proxa you give the brother and he would always add every time yeah and you should know that the almighty loves you right he would every time add that because that was the greatest rocket in life because you see beyond the pain and the difficulty and appreciate that yeah you're you're gonna be great and that's very true yeah you know excellent um and that's the I think the message that I think is critical here those two pieces to it the other that was the second piece was the people the caring of people like Alyssa and and Rabbi um Ruben you know that Karen that's the magic combination when you feel her son's love and you see it together with people around you that magic potion of singing in people and feeling it together with it with the revolution there's there's nothing that if we have that we change the whole world but that's all and that's what we're trying to do so we're gonna let you go in a minute I just wanted to make one point said in the film Martin says the line he says he's going to Yeshiva not only to learn Torah but to learn more about what is it that makes this community do what they do show the love that they are good very good all right Samson have an easy rest of the fact I'll see you again next year we'll hope we have you on the show by uh overlooking the base I make this message I'm looking forward to being there with you guys thank you so much thank you very much again this is really this has really been the message yeah you said we're never alone because we have everybody you know just along those lines Charlie is that you know in in the film you see the community even on the film that we showed here you see the community coming together not only the davening for people and the giving the food the soup kitchens all that you know you have people coming together and organizations you know Isaac Rose you know our good friend and a real partner with project Inspire is fond of saying if if less religious people would only know how many organizations they are in the in the front community that are are just looking to give give right for sure what the beaker hole in this and the the cancer organizations I mean I'll tell you for one more I have a friend of mine who lost his father's his name is Ronan fuchsburg I think he was on the show or yeah he's a good friend of mine and he lost his father he's a great guy so I went to paycheva call to him and his father was an incredible person and he buried him married to Israel you know he said to me he goes you know what gave him the Hummer we take this for granted he said I landed in Israel and his family they're all and his shirt was ripped because he's Landing to bury his father and he gets off the plane in Israel and strangers are going you know he doesn't over there and then he's sitting at the thing he said he goes to become sitting at the they're trying to get food he said some random guy came up to him and said why are you all sitting he goes what do you mean he's like just sit there and he went and got them food because he's like he just put it together he's like wait you're sitting there and and Ronan said to me he's like I'm sitting in Israel and I don't know anybody and everyone has you know why because they're part of this nation that cares and he got it and it was nahama because nakama is this feeling of We're All in This Together and when you have that we can take on the whole wide world and that's why we take on the whole wide world that's right and by the way on that note we have with us on the phone uh nadav ALK boy uh who is a member of hatsala in in uh Surfside yep wow and there he is speaking people thank you welcome to the show um thank you so much for having me I just want to correct I'm not a member of uh hatsala I'm just a Community member I'm actually just to start off real quickly the title of what I was in Surfside um I didn't really know my role you know we had had to lie you had IDF there you had the Red Cross so many professionals there and I just put my position as citizen um so I'll just consider myself as a neighbor and a citizen even better not have even better you know we act we we as you know as you know we put together a presentation where a boy who went through the tragedy that he went through was super inspired by via what do you call yourself a citizen by citizen by citizens like you citizens who we never knew citizens who came together to show the love and the outpour of help and love from the community looking back now that I've explained to us what the what the scene was what it was like getting involved in that and uh and and you know what it meant for you certainly I first of all want to start by saying thank you for having me here um giving me the platform to share this story and what Surfside really went through um so what happened was in June 24th um tragically the Champlain south tower has um collapse and more than that we lost our neighbors um immediately um and it was really sad situation I have family that lives in Israel and of course recently with the war that's happening now or I guess there was a ceasefire my heart and my thoughts were always with the people of Israel um but for the first time the rules was was reversed my brother's a lone soldier and in the middle of the night my phone rang and then it rang again it was around three o'clock in the morning I worked the next day and my phone was keep on ringing for my brother who was in Israel I called I was like I answered the phone and you know what time it is and he told me Nadal are you okay a building collapse in Surfside so usually when I you know I'm always thinking so much about what's happening in Israel for the first time Israel was thinking about what's happening in our community um so then that's when I I quickly got dressed uh the building is just a couple blocks away from the house on my house on Collins Avenue and I remember walking towards the scene and I'm seeing hot Salam members with their backpacks in the middle of the night running toward the scene along me um of course the roads were blocked a fire rescue had everything blocked so I went towards the beach and that's where I saw the flashlights looking through the debris and the smell is a smell that will never forget um it stays with me until today but there was another scene not just where the collapse was or as they call it the pile but also the reunification center it's at the Surfside Community Center which is right across the street from me and that's where all the families were told to go all the you know the loved ones of the families that were involved were waiting for their families um they filed the police reports and missing people reports and that's when I found a police officer and asked them what can I do to help right I want to stop I want to stop you right the AC for you it was so simple to walk over to a police officer and say what could I do to help but you realize that there are and and this is what Charlie was was saying earlier on the show is that we as a nation somehow are able to come together and and make that move of what can I do and without even realizing without even realizing it be able to inspire so many people looking on and in this case obviously Martin watching all of you get involved what made you step up you could have easily gone home and say oh this is a terrible tragedy I'm sure someone's going to take care of this I don't know if it was so easy for me to come home it happened right across the street from me um the roads were blocked so no one can really come in and it wasn't just me who said what can I do to help I remember it was Rabbi lipsker um from Surfside right there with all the security guards who usually protect the synagogue this is the security guards were helping as well where you had the console general of Israel Florida and Puerto Rico he was there as well it was all the community neighbors those that had no connection they were there to help and it was one of the times I learned that this horrible tragedy happened but how the whole Community came together public officials you had the mayor there you had Congress the Senator's office was there it was really a team effort from every institution every neighbor every organization to just help the neighbors out and it was just the right thing to do what's amazing and what's amazing that we're talking about is this idea of triumph over tragedy right and we're we're identifying ways in which we do it and how we've survived throughout the years and how uh we each of us have to continue to become greater and greater and what we're hearing from you who is sort of who is there live at one of the tragedies that took place in the past year year for us as a community as a larger Jewish Community really is the scene of what takes place in these moments of where people come out and say where can I be placed what did that feel like I know the moving the tragedy to the side for a second right I want to move into the triumph right what did it feel like to be on the ground and to be looking right and left and seeing people from every background sort of unified around this cause and this purpose and that's exactly what I had to do put their tragedy to the side they were two situations one had no control over it wasn't in my hand and another one there was something that I can do about it of course what happened with the building collab to the surgeon and rescue efforts that's why the IDF was there that's why we had the Miami-Dade rescue and firefighters from all around the country but really where I had control over was what's happening in the community center and it wasn't easy it was difficult and not many people know I've never cried harder in my life than during that time I this couch behind me wasn't a ball and cried but when I was around the families when I was around my neighbors you have to be strong for them because when you see a girl crying stopping she lost everything she had in her life her family doesn't know where they are that's real pain and I will never understand that because that wasn't me going through that situation but I just wanted to be the rock I want to take that all in the motion and observe absorb it and just be there for them and bring any positivity I can into a negative situation but it was never about me it was just about my neighbors the lesson of Love Thy Neighbor really came to life during this experience and I hope every community that goes through you know problems like in Tennessee today will learn what's happening that happened in Surfside where we put everything aside and just focus on how can we help those that are going through a difficulty well that was very simple amazing I just want to let you know we're gonna have to go here but I just want to let you know that from an Outsiders effective you and everyone else down there was a major inspiration to everybody looking on from the outside especially to Martin who as you know has made significant changes in his life because of that inspiration so I want to thank you on behalf of really Chloe Israel for the work that you did down there may you continue to show the strength that you needed down there and and really realize that the Surfside tragedy and then ultimately the whole office is a Beacon of Hope for the rest of us and the street oh that were in front of the building the renamed the streets to 98 Rays of Hope or 98 rays of light and I think that's what we all can get hope right um when we are together as a community or neighbors the strongest winds won't be able to bring us down right we'll always Prevail and that's what happened here we'll continue to do so amen thank you so much thank you I mean this is this is what you know this is what he's saying is a guy like him doesn't even realize how he's one guy but when you look at everyone all these individual citizens when you look at them all together this is a you know we all the world was looking on you know we saw this happen we saw them step to play the world saw it yeah you know yeah you know we're uh we're joined Now by you know we're on the topic here obviously of triumphing through tragedy uh and of course we have with us uh a friend friend dear friend Dave gressen is here with us and uh Dave you've uh you told me inspiration to all I mean Davis is the greatest inspiration to all of us um we've I think we've been on both sides of the you know both sides of the world uh together Israel back at home um it's always you're on our first trip yes that's right our first momentum trip he was on amazing amazing with project Inspire amazing so you know Dave you you have a story where um it wasn't too long ago at least one of the uh episodes wasn't too long ago where we were obviously concerned but you having gone through what you went through uh really gave you strength and gave the people around you the ability to step up for you as well yes um yeah so right so and um so first of all thank you for having me here on okay uh thank you um and in 2018 um uh after listening to my sister yeah I'll stop just step back I don't know how much how long I have but I'll try to keep it quick [Music] um prior to 2018 I had a trouble breathing through through my nose and I just figured it was no big deal and it'll just go away so after um uh complaining about it for about a year my sister said why don't you just finally go to ENT and just figure out what's wrong so in the summer of 2018 I went to an ENT and uh he he examined me and he said you have a deviated septum and a polyp so he said no big deal you come back we'll take care of it so I went back um went through the procedure woke up he said uh good news is I fixed your deviated septum he said bad news is it's not a polyp he says it's above my pay grade I need to send you to Lenox Hill in the city and take a look at it so I went to linuxil they did a biopsy and turned out I had a stage four um sinus cancer it's called Snook snuc so I looked it up um and it has a very very low survival rate so uh at that time um you know I uh with my wife we were trying to figure out you know exactly what to do and um it was because of you it was because of you and because of that gentleman over there yaakov vinegar and all of the people that I have learned with and my Rabbi Mendel telden um I knew that listen this is what I was given with I couldn't of um there was nothing that I could have done that to prevent the cancer there was nothing that I I could do now I have the cancer the what I could do is I can decide how I'm going to handle it by myself I could crawl up in a ball I could cry I could say oh my God you know this this is it it's the end or I can be positive and I could keep a positive mindset and I could listen to everything that the doctors tell me to do and do it two times over and that's what we decided to do so I kept positive um I kept strong uh the first treatment that I had was right after um uh the holidays in December I go to my first radiation treatment in the morning this is 2009. this is 2019 and I walk in and I'm a little bit nervous there I'm there with about a half a dozen guys and walk in to get my first treatment and who's there Rabbi Mendel telden is sitting in a chair right right there waiting for me does a little prayer I go in and and we took of it so we you know we and I say we it was me my wife my family um went through every day I had treatments one day through uh radiation Monday through Thursday every Friday was chemotherapy my second chemotherapy session I was with my mom and with my wife and I had a bad reaction to the cancer drug and I went into anaphylactic shock and that was the crazy scene and um but I never lost hope um I always mean strong and when you're talking about people rallying around you so Josh Brody from um Far Rockaway Josh Brody sure uh uh he put together a WhatsApp group and I can't tell you how many people joined it it was all the guys on our trips all the friends that we've made through this well the rabbis that we've met uh and every day every day didn't miss a day of all of my treatments there would be uh something that he would put out there for us to learn everybody would go ahead and participate in it through through a WhatsApp chat and it just kept me strong everybody rallying around me keeping me strong thank God and uh wow Dave you know this is this is the the personal version of the of the national story I'm wondering to you I mean you know you didn't grow up religious and this is fairly new you said your first trip was with Charlie in 2018. what was your take on the fact that like people who you just recently became friendly with you know are rallying around you in a way where like you know it might have been a you know like why are they so into this why are they so in like this is my tragedy like what was your reaction to their willingness and their you know to mention brother beating you to the hospital you know it was incredible it's it's nothing you know hopefully it's nothing anybody will ever experience um but but if somebody has to go through a chat tragedy um you have to surround yourself with positive people um and I've been blessed uh to have met everybody through project Inspire and through Chabad and you know and and the friends that we've made and uh they all rallied around me and not only did they rally around me they brought their friends and their families to Rally around me and it was just uh it was just incredible the the love and the outpouring that they had for me and my family it absolutely um absolutely got me through this I started out with a half a dozen guys um the thing that I I wanted to do really strongly is two things one my dad died when he was 55. okay I had I got the cancer when I was 52. I wanted to make it to 55 in one day at least okay second thing is I didn't want a feeding tube um uh because that was something that that they said you're going to have and I just didn't want a feeding tube and I'm telling you the positivity the rallying around me um the mindset the belief uh lit you know just doing every and and having the belief that that Hashem definitely had my back every one of the other guys they all have feeding tubes um they gave into it they they you know they just did it and thank God you know I never had to experience that that's it feels to me that that's the strength meaning the strength was like the way the way the doctor said it earlier was that we have the strength to overcome challenge it's hard to bring out the strength but when we have people around us and we believe in a greater purpose like with Hashem on top and everybody around what it does is it it draws out that natural strength that you had inside you but that really can't come out without everyone around you absolutely I mean it I am a True Believer I mean it's ever you know everything that that I've learned through through all everything through through you guys um it it all came to fruition and uh it was just amazing and the thing with the doctor said also is is how people um you know from that you become an ambassador for you know for for the tragedy that you've been through is one of the things that I've been blessed with now is that um whenever anyone is going through my doctor just texted me three days ago um and he said I have a woman sitting in my office right now she's going through she she just got diagnosed with sinus cancer can you please speak with her wow so and I'm like absolutely you know so and I've I thank you know thank God I've been able to help other people going through you know what their things and you know you could look at me so I got all my hair back you know thank God I'm healthy uh you know and uh here to speak with you guys amazing amazing listen Mason thank you for for joining us on the show um and your story is the like we said the personal version of the of the well what is above is really it's that moment where you have that tragedy but it's the communal getting together the actas it's the belief in God it's the belief in each other is Our God's way of saying you have you have it in you to bring Google you have it in you to to fix this and your story is is the personal proof of that so we appreciate it and no thank you we thank you for the strength that you show and the strength that you have and I am sure that you do not only share you know helps the other patients um who the doctor diagnosis but he helps other Jews recognize that yeah that this exists in the Jewish nation and Jewish people brings other people to be involved as well to get them to see what what he's experienced as well amazing amazing Dave thank you so much you continue to be a strength for your people around you and the whole world and the whole nation that that you have continued to uplift right back thank you so much Dave you know as as we move on with this uh with this message this very message which is really how we as a we as a nation come together um through tragedy and this has been the story of this is like you know what he like he said safer places you know we um I want to show a clip today as everyone knows project witness has a beautiful video this app the sequel devorah's hope uh which is an amazing video and incredible kudos to gee Orman and his uh and Mrs Lichtenstein who is such a tremendous push for this type of education please joining us shortly I want to show a short clip which will give you an idea they called it a docu drama it's a cross between a documentary and a drama film which is dramatized um let's go to the clip of devorah's Hope and we'll be joined afterwards by Ruth lichenstein my mother was in one of the most infamous Force labor camps in this area where they work with ammunitions for the Germans and she says that it was so bitter called the metal got stuck to her skin one day Menachem escaped from karchef and when it came to radum he found out that if anyone was left they must be in this first they become now a Polish woman came into the first labor camp to talk to dvora and this polish woman was asked by Menachem and so she came in to direct her how to escape the camp [Music] go go go [Music] laughs I can't believe it's you better watch out come on let's go I want you to understand the Courage the devotion the dedication to the only sisters that was left he knows that either he saves her or that's it they stayed by this woman whom my mother said more than once and more than twice that not only is that she made sure that they should have where to hide and what to eat but she was the one who always reminded them how much respect she has for Judaism we're joined here that incredible film that you're seeing is a film called devorah's hope we're joined here now with Mrs Ruth Lichtenstein she's the publisher of hamadia the largest Orthodox newspaper in the world and I've been a magazine a magazine for women she's the founder and director of project witness editor-in-chief of witness to history a nation by Nation history of the Holocaust the publisher journalist and Electro she holds an M.A in Jewish history and is written extensively unused on the Jewish experience in the Holocaust and lectures internationally Mrs listening welcome to the show thank you it's an honor to have you on and thank you for such an incredible incredible film yesterday Friedman here welcome to the show I want to ask you I know that for years and years you've been making films writing stories about Holocaust Survivors very powerful films um different jewelries of Polish jewelry and Hungarian jewelry what does it mean to you however to make a film about your own mother uh what type of meaning did that have for you definitely has a very deep meaning for me my mother was 10 when the war broke out she was 15 and a half and she was liberated the scenes that you just saw now she it happened when she turned 13 and I asked so here we take uh you know a teenager together with her brother they're struggling to survive so going through unbelievable experiences she's a regular Messiah girl and look what she went through so of course as a daughter to me it has a very deep meaning how does how does you know one of the things that I know project witness is so great at is making sure that these messages do not get lost making sure that the Next Generation continues to understand what happened and continues to learn lessons from it what do you feel that this film has to as a message to the generations I do feel that uh as the years are passing by uh the survivors unfortunately are leaving us and uh the new generation the teenagers today's theme teenagers are getting further and further away from the Holocaust knowing less and uh you know uh unfortunately it becomes like a proven-based training for us so time has come to wake everyone up time has come to understand that not only the teenagers went through experiences but where do we live and with that we shouldn't feel so comfortable in the you know United States of America and it could happen to every one of us and to any generation let's look and see this this film that anybody who already viewed and those who did not could obviously get uh the film as well as more information or project witness.org it's obvious to the viewer that um that this film was done on a very high level to reenact a lot of those scenes tell us a little bit about what the uh what type of filming and what type of work had to be put in to be able to create the scenes that depict what your mother went through as a child uh the credit goes uh to remember the producer and the director of big production I hope that he is joining us as well uh gay travel to Poland spend a few weeks there and uh went through a very very hard production process it was not simple not to find the right actress not to find the right scenes the stories are there the stories are all true there is no resaturation whatsoever uh in whatever you see in the film uh these are not easy since to uh not to watch and definitely not to produce but he has done it so I have no words to thank him and I feel that it's so crucial and so important let me tell you thousands of people watched it an attempt that this one shows that we had in different Jewish communities uh on Facebook online last week the premiere and the overwhelming uh positive uh of regards that we got from it we're just unbelievable it just showed that it really hit that spot right uh I I ask you this question because I I I actually didn't know the answer to this question today uh I I watched the film I thought it was absolutely fantastic I messaged the Ormond earlier today to let him know um but I I had um my wife asked me if some of my children should be watching this video and on one hand I'm like of course they should see and then I'm like what what if they you know get nightmares from it like what's your take in terms of the the population that should see it because of the message that's shown in the film um you know what was what was your take in making this film as to what who the target market is I think that uh uh teenagers 14 and up definitely can see it and mature 13 can see it uh just remember one thing this is a real story and as I said nothing was exaggerated so my mother could have gone through all of that and come out as she came out and be so strong and fight over over not only surviving but Shabbos and other things and stay what she stayed as and our generation is so Spalding cannot see it right and and I completely agree and we thank you so much for this film again projectwitness.org projectwitness.org as a grandchild of Holocaust Survivors I feel the um I feel the pain that you mentioned earlier about them leaving us and what will be as I think through my grandparents and seeing how they survived and what they became the strength and of character that they had and I look around and we don't have them anymore we really don't and there's no one that could ever replace them there's no one behind them so being able to be able to see films like yours and the work that you're doing is giving the Next Generation a chance to a realize what they were what they went through and I think the reason why you're doing this to realize what we are and the strength that we need to show because that's the strength that we have in our Missouri we thank you for that absolutely thank you thank you much once again those are still the Nazi the film projectwitness.org projectwitness.org thank you and we have to see it meaning and this is so critical for those that are that are watching and and I I'm guilty of this as well really I am in that if you grew up with the Holocaust in your life you forget that the people that don't don't have it like if you grew up with the Holocaust like I was blessed I had two colloquist grandparents that were one block from my house like I lived in their home like like if you don't have it you don't have it and if you had it you forget that there are people that are just they're never gonna see it and she said it she had a great lunch it's a horrible by Shaney you know I'm saying like the kids are gonna be like I don't know I heard of the Holocaust I went to the play when I was seven like they're not gonna know that the Holocaust wasn't so they went to a cantata it wasn't 9 000 years you're saying like it's so critical that we we pause our life and even post Tish above I know it's so hard now like we're done with this you know in two hours when you hit the once the carbs are getting into the system like we're at nakamo you know I'm saying look we're finished but like we have to remember that if if you're blessed to have children or if you're blessed to be alive and you don't have an understanding of the Holocaust not from a place of depression but from a place of strength you're missing a piece of Moder of I don't want to say Jewish history you're missing a piece of who we are as a nation today period in the story amazing and it goes to it goes to this story of us being able to grow from these Treasures it's exactly right it goes to do that and look how they grew from it I mean it's exactly look at Mrs is a product of her mother running through the woods and and what you said a second ago she said so many things that we take on like smear Shabbos like when you have grandparents that went to the Holocaust to come to America and then they say you if you don't show up on shops don't show up on Sunday the Holocaust part is like are you out of your mind do you know who you're talking to you know I'm saying like do you know that I went through it like a staple guy dude like you're saying like you're not so you're so tough you've got like a little tiny shop you know like that strength of a juvenile are you joking right like we if we had that we'd walk through walls today okay we have uh a clip we have a clip to you uh for you over here actually Dave greson who's with us who was part of your first trip there are those who've been uh especially through the film have been asking us to identify project inspire's Mission and the way that people can get involved we have a short clip over here about project Inspire let's roll the team my Judaism pretty much was uh non-existent before I got involved with project Inspire I knew I was Jewish I was proud to be Jewish but we didn't do a lot so I didn't feel very connected we didn't even know what observant people did or who they were or what they were about I was a little bit cynical you know I was totally unaffiliated we weren't doing anything other than the holy days and then after I went to Israel for the first trip something ignited inside of me ever since then we've been growing by Leaps and Bounds getting involved in so many more things meeting so many amazing people so before project Inspire I don't think I would feel that I could have such an effect or influence on maybe Jews are kind of a more secular background and I'll be like even if I would talk to them what would they do what would I influence them how would they see change project Inspire brings people from all different levels of Judaism together the model of having in both committed families with those who are exploring and learning more to have them come together through project Inspire I think is a very winning combination project Aspire is able to cater to any group of individuals whether you were born from birth or you're just coming back for 100 days it's really to hold hands with those that are observant so we can understand what it's all about who doesn't need inspiration and the best way to be inspired is to inspire others and they feel that if the 10 percent that our connect would infect the other 90 with their passion for you this guy it could be a game changer any one more person you get to come and see this kind to be kind to him it's this has changed yourself it's a change to you not just to him I have the benefit of having grown up with you know religious upbringing and Orthodox education and I want to share that with people but someone like me who supposedly was always Affiliated project Inspire brought me into where I needed to be and gave me a love of Judaism and I and also my kids my kids get to see that there are all different kinds of people and we're all so the same and we just have to be open to learning about other people and loving other people project Inspire just wants to teach and give back and have everybody feel connected to our faith and really just to be able to keep passing it on to our kids everything that they do is all about sharing Judaism sharing you know Torah and you know helping people understand that you know this has been going on for 3 300 years there's got to be something to it it does exactly what it aims to do which is to bring Jewish people who may not be as connected with their faith to a place where they can become much more connected much happier and just much more knowledgeable too never could have imagined that learning Torah and studying would have been so important you go to synagogue you read prayer book Hebrew and you follow rituals and that's wonderful but this is an opportunity to see where are the other touch points in your life to celebrate Judaism we went to so many shabbatons and and weekends that we truly enjoyed amazing speakers and mirrors and beautiful Shabba sudas I've just came back from my fifth trip to Israel the trip was amazing because it was seven days of really power packed events that we did you are in your Homeland and that was amazing to have this feeling we started these three-day trips to Kentucky The Bourbon Trail was the first one we did my wife actually led a trip for the women to Fort Myers Florida and we found in two and a half days of this bonding this growth this this connection to a Brotherhood and a Sisterhood took a root in an unbelievable way I come out of it inspired and I believe that the participants come out of it inspired now we're on this exciting mission of getting more and more people on these trips scaling them trying to get them all across the United States because this special sauce that we have has to be shared by all projects Inspire has completely totally changed our lives in every aspect of our life Judaism is now a part of my life and I've been able to share that with my children the organizational has changed our lives our home our family the friends we've made the focus of our lives changed tremendously from just being about ourselves to being about sharing with other people over the course of some years that George flame inside me star started to dim and then I met project Inspire and that flame came back and that fires back that's what makes this place special I started doing things that I've never done in my life for example doing to fill in every day we can't rely on cure professionals alone as extraordinary as devoted as selfless as they are they're too few in number but if we employ every member of the Torah Community to be ambassadors we're all schlooking we have a responsibility we are agents of Hashem to make a difference in his world to care about our siblings his other children if we Inspire ourselves to inspire others we could transform the trajectory of claw Israel we can make changes for generations to come every Jew is part of my family every Jew is part of your family so when project Inspire gives you the chance to meet more of your family to connect with them to do something for them you're doing the Jewish way and Hashem will be very proud of you [Music] and there you have it just a short snippet of the work of project Inspire recent in recent clip I just want to take this opportunity to thank Dr Stewart and Andrea Heitman who everything you saw and everything that we've done here would not have been possible without them incredible uh really unbelievable they're amazing it's incredible and our next guest um I got to tell you if you haven't heard the story you you're I don't know where you're living but you definitely you're disconnected so even something really right or something really wrong when I when I heard the story I was walking back um to the train in the city I couldn't even get through every I was I was it was too much for me to hear the story it was the most incredible thing I believe it I thought it was one of those you know fake stories yeah donate money to Niagara or something we have with us uh an individual who needs no introduction Mrs nahama nerenberg is on with us if you haven't heard her story she fell off a 90-foot cliff while hiking with her family and survived with minor injuries and that if that wasn't insane enough in itself you have to hear her clip because half the clip is about amuna and gratitude and you just can't believe this person who has had such a catastrophe being that mindset I'm little Mrs narenberg it is an honor to invite you to the show hi thank you so much this this is I just want to ask you how are you and your family doing we are all doing very very well um my kids are recovered they don't want to go hiking but they're recovered I I can imagine not for a while so so tell us a little bit now we're in this space we're in this world of the end of Tish above which is a unique time in the Jewish calendar it's a time where Triumph is winning if you will and you can almost see the nakama someone who had your experience had a glimpse of everything what the world is supposed to be right and I heard it in your voice of and even the things you said were so DACA they were so Nuance that you were working you were walking with this kid versus that kid it happened at this second versus that you were able to pick up on so much of the Gratitude of every second in life share with us this concept if you will you went through this incredible experience and it felt to me that you were already stronger from it what was it like emerging from this what was it like what do you have now that you didn't have before this experience most of all the Gratitude of sharing the the be able to share the Gratitude is being able to feel everybody else's gratitude which is such a beautiful thing um as you heard my story you know the little things from not being with my five-year-old on when I fell and nothing with my 10 year old um and just being with my um she's almost eight now um when I fell because a five-year-old would what would a five-year-old do when a mother Falls over the age look over it's a natural thing um and then he would have gone down with me I was such a brata each each little thing that my 10 year old didn't try grabbing me um thank you it was it was such a it was it was a real real bracha and then I was so usually when I walk with my daughter I usually hold her hand and that was another bracha I wasn't holding her hand so what do I have different Hashem I am so lucky that I always thank Hashem at the end of my day and beginning my day um so I still have that same you know we're thinking Hashem is so important even for the little things not just for the big things because everybody everybody would look around in their life they would realize yeah they you know there's every single second of the day you know it's interesting you say that you know a couple of minutes ago we had a great doctor his name was Dr Blumenthal an incredible person who gave I thought it was so powerful what he put together in six seven minutes and he mentioned how in life one of the pro one of the concepts of tragedy and is this the the disruption of normal we life's predictable and when you start to see the world as unpredictable it's a little harder and as he was talking about appreciation and all these different things I was thinking to myself if your life is always picking up on the small bits of gratitude if you're always Blown Away by the normal then you start to train yourself to realize that there's nothing that's normal and that you're always living Miracles and what I took from your piece said what you just said and I want to double click on it because we could talk about what happened for hours but as people already sort of sort of like seeing the bagel and we're getting them towards the end with hashem's help I want to double click on this piece because I think if people got this they would live myself included we'd live greater lives which is when you train yourself to start to get blown away like even hearing you now say it now my five-year-old and you're touching my eight-year-old would help my these are just little little coincidences that you've turned into brachas that you're now proud of and excited about that you've now turned into Miracles and now you're filled with Miracles that were just coincidences but you could look at them and say they're not coincidences does Hashem loving me and if we all walked around and look at looked at these little things in our lives and were this Blown Away we would we would be stronger people so there's someone recently told me this it's such a special thing hashems inside of us so the emuna the belief is a natural part of us it's like a tree and patakhan is the fruit that you work on and you grow on that tree and you strengthen it you find the little things and you grow that strength um and as I was falling I was so blessed to feel Hashem hold me as I was floating um down the cliff and I I really felt Hashem was holding me um and for me able to feel that extra strength of Hashem and we feel you know the stronger part of Hashem and be able to share it it was it it's it's incredible um yeah I know you mentioned you know you mentioned sharing it is there any anything specific that I mean again I don't know if there's anyone like Charlie mentioned who's breathing that didn't hear your story it went around you know how WhatsApp tells you forwarded many times you know what I'm saying it tells you like this was like many many like it was you know once I've invented an extra many what happens what's up is like becoming from now from these stories like it right yeah but but I'm asking if there's any if there's anyone who shared anything with you that you felt that sharing your story was worth it just to hear a feedback from someone like this people weren't actually sharing their Miracle stores with me which was so special and I feel like all these people should reach out and share their you know Beautiful Stories um at the same time people were giving me brachas they were giving me blessings in return I felt like it became like a whole um I guess like a gathering where you come and you you know you give each other blessings to every turn gave them blessing I felt like it was strengthening me at the same time hearing that it was strengthening them yeah it was really really special amazing well we we'd like to bless you as well and continue you should have continued strength to to always see Miracles and um and not need anything like this ever to to do this again but that you know and and to really continue to shine your light in this world and we thank you who you are and thank you what you've given us really this Incredible Gift of of of of appreciation and gratitude that all of us have now more because of you thank you I mean and we should all have the open Miracles and the normal Miracles and we should have openmazel and we should be able to appreciate each other um and with with joy and health and everything in between amen amen thank you so much and it's really an incredible thing and and just being able to hear that if you haven't heard her story you should it's really incredible but but I really think the piece that moved me besides the stuff that was driving me you know I was going crazy during the story was her ability to and that's really special about who she is is the ability to understand the nuances and say that was a miracle and I think if we we all did that more right we'd be like I think if we took upon ourselves something and Dr Blumenthal said take something I think if one of the things we take tonight is I want to take one thing in my life that was a coincidence and be a little more Blown Away it would be much bigger better people right I'm for sure and I know for myself it's like you know these type of things you're like okay next story you know I guess maybe because I'm in the film right right right right right right but uh but that's definitely true and you see that you know what made her strong was the fact that people shared their miracles so she was able to then be blown away by by their stories that they sure for sure okay we have with us here our annual guest and our annual host rabbayoni zagatinski or project Inspire Brooklyn who not only arranged us to be in this amazing place where it's first kishul uh but also of course hosts us uh post the fast all the time right we only it's it's terrible that we get together really only Tish above on this deep level but at least that in America next to your new slime we only you he joined here with Alex Schatz tell us the story explain to us who Alex Schatz is and the the work that you're doing on your end over here in Brazil I get the Cal Ripken award yes yes award goes to you as well we have two Awards coming up this year yeah so uh and you'll appreciate you'll know you understand it yeah thank you Charlie thank you you'll see so um obviously Brooklyn project Inspire is very very fast very large and we have a lot of people involved you know from all uh from all communities both the religious community the non-religious community yet and um you know Alex uh we met Alex a number of years ago and uh Alex has a phenomenal story of his involvement with the community and also with obviously project Inspire and um you could uh talk to Alex and he'll tell you I don't have to tell you before that Alex tell us a little bit about you and uh your story absolutely so yeah yeah I think my story is um a very common story of Russian Jews who came here in the 90s um I was I happen to be 11 years old when my family immigrated here I did have some some Jewish background uh it happened to be that in the 90s uh Chabad came into my city heart of Ukraine and they reestablished the shul then they reestablished the the school and that actually got a chance to go to um to school there to Jewish school from first grade all the way through fifth grade and then um of course in 1998 we came here it was sixth grade my parents want me to continue with the Jewish Education uh however I didn't go uh too much as planned I guess you know God has his ways so um the person that my dad met who recommended the school um he uh I guess the school that was recommended for me um was a school in Borough Park uh where um you know it was a very different environment uh let's say you know they they didn't speak English and neither did I um it was uh you know I was used to Chabot School whereas both boys and girls um my favorite sweater that I wore to school was this beautiful colorful sweater and I wound up in an environment that was you know completely different um and then from that point on I went to public school with every year that I went to public school um my um involvement with anything Jewish decreased and decreased to the point that when I was in college I was you know I went really far away as far away as I could that you know my mom could still call me and ask me to come back for like Thanksgiving uh but at the same time you know I didn't there was very little Jewish involvement in my life at that point and what changed sure so um so I think the first thing that changed is my friend had to convince me to go on the birthright trip uh when I was um after my junior year of college I went on that Birthright trip and um I think just being in Israel being surrounded by other Jew shoes you know really there was some kind of spark that ignited within me uh that I made the point uh to come back after college to Brooklyn and um you know become more involved in that birthday organization and through that birthday organization I met um probably winner of Chabad uh started learning a little bit started becoming involved in other organizations but even though uh two three years afterwards I found myself living in Flatbush uh together with now my wife uh we were you know even though we were learning about all these Jewish things Shabbat keeping kosher uh we um we love the ideas but we never felt like like we could own it you know we never really we still felt like it was something out of reached for us even though we're living in Flatbush mm-hmm um yeah right in Flatbush amazing we're running a Flatbush so then this is your your point this is your whole this is your whole message that's right there's so many people who are here that are not connected it's amazing uh that's what we're doing here in Project Inspire connecting them incredible I would add on I mean there's one uh obviously the the movie that uh I mean I've seen twice today it's just unbelievable you know it's titled unexpected um so there was one thing that kind of reaffirmed uh my commitment and then uh changed the trajectory of uh my family's life um and but while we were living in Flatbush in 2014 I was four weeks away from getting married to my wife and um you know it was a regular summer day a beautiful day and um I uh I went to a Dermatology office to get my skin tags removed and um you know there's when when in for the appointment you know sat on the chair and um you know uh I I felt um her do the work on my left side I had two skin tags um that um when she um she took care of and then um the third one um the way that it was done it was um involved a lidocaine injection right underneath it um and I believe from I guess from my um what was explained to me afterwards by medical professionals uh the lidocaine went straight into my artery and actually um you know shut down my heart so uh but I I didn't know it back then back then I thought I was um I found myself falling asleep uh I thought I fell asleep in the Dermatology office and had this amazing dream amazing dream that just felt so good and um I felt myself like traveling to a place that had never been before and I I recall just you know just knowing that this is this place is absolutely unbelievable feels unbelievable and um you know in that in my dream I thought it was my dream um I I encountered um I guess if like I guess what what I would you know I would say beings of my grandparents wow like it wasn't like physical bodies it wasn't you know it wasn't like I saw their physical uh reflection or heard their voice but I just knew that they were my grandparents and we had this you know incredible conversation and um again it was a conversation was more like I guess telepathic communication um and um you know I said I I was always so scared of this place and then never I never thought that this place would feel so good wow um so I uh at that point you know they told me that I need to go back and I felt myself going back and um in reality I I remember the point where I knew I um I wanted to wake up I was going to wake up I felt myself back in the chair and um I said to myself you know when I when I opened my eyes when I wake up I should tell the doctor that you know I I should apologize for falling asleep because it was kind of 27 year old falls asleep in the doctor's office so I opened my eyes and um you know I I I say exactly what was on my mind to say you know I'm so sorry I didn't mean to fall asleep and as I opened my eyes I see this this woman who like Turned completely pale and she's you know um she's on top of me and she's saying no you didn't fall asleep your heart stopped I've been doing CPR on you for five minutes wow the ambulance is here the paramedics are their way up well one thing I'm getting for sure Alex is that not only was a physical CPR but everybody only zagatinsky and his uh the crew here in Brooklyn definitely did spiritual CPR as well and brought you to the uh to the position where thank God you're not only a participant on our programs but you're also a leader on the programs involving many others as well I want I want to own a bridge this because it was a this is a point to this which is sort of Destruction which is not really not physical destruction and then rebuilding I want to play a clipboard my face a crone introduces part of the film wow um and we have everybody standing by with us but I want to play this clip because I think this really encapsulates not real not only our film but the day of Tish above and the meaning of Tish above let's play that clip thank you so much guys amazing hey Charlie wow that's really the purpose of this presentation but my dear brothers and sisters wherever you are in the world watching this I feel that I must prepare you for what you are about to see you are about to experience a video as never before you will perhaps cry as you've never cried on a dish above I've watched I've watched this coming presentation a few times and every time it breaks my heart every time I've cried you're about to witness destruction devastation hope and rebuilding you will see what it means Israel okay I wanna I wanna environment who obviously we did an amazing job uh really Charlie it's an experience anytime we do something with story pesochrome really did an amazing job narrowing this film and really bringing out uh what really needed to be brought out in this film which is what he mentioned Rabbi Crone I want to welcome you to the show I also want to thank you for another Splendid job but I want to ask you if you can elaborate a little bit on the introduction that you gave which was destruction but rebuilding and how that relates to us especially at the final half an hour before the kakash cake and the oranges I'll tell you it is so amazing to me when you think about it that today which is the saddest day of the year we don't say tahman why is that right I mean I'm a moral so when I come into a Shore everybody wants to know is there a Brisk and then everybody's so happy because like this they don't have to say talking so if you don't think there's a simcha so what's simcha is there today and the answer of course is that hazal consider this day of Tish above because it's the birthday of mashiach and so on one hand we're crying because of the loss of the best but yet we have that hope and that anticipation that there will be a Moyet and Michelle beer and we will have the third base Sunday gushed and that's what I saw from that fabulous video that you put together about Surfside on one hand such destruction I told the story today to thousands and thousands of people anytime which you know goes all over the world and I told him I was there I was there for the first yard side and I spoke in front of the almanas of some of those who died and I spoke in front of the assignment that were there but yet the community bound together and they bonded together and that's the hope of the future when there's artists and unity you know you can build and that's what Hashem says and that's what hazal tell us when there's Kingdom we can have the base Amigos and that's why I thought your film was fabulous Rabbi it's such an honor that you're on with us you know how much I look up to you how much I respect you and how much when we when I hear you speak even even if I can share with you even today it must be 20 years ago you told the story of the crew of him embracing on Tish above and I'm still it's still it's still it's still I still think about it because of the emotion and and the heart you put into it somebody whose heart is so bound with Carl you throw share with us if you can a message we're at the end of the show we're at the end of this of this really like you said it's it's a yunt if it's a yantef where you don't eat but it's still in many ways a moate where Hashem is asking something of us and ah this is at the Top If you can share this a message that we can walk away with as we we end the fast having our minds at this moment okay I'll I'll say two things one thing Charlie you know how much I love you I'm your son Moshe and Jesse you don't know how Charlie became how he became I know that everything I know I know that everybody yeah I know that everyone's looking at it right right no no no I'm telling you you have to watch his father Domin if you saw his father dominant then you know that's why he has a son like he has that's the first message he doesn't mind going he doesn't mind going there all right just Diamond like Charlie's father and you'll have kids but I'll tell you a message that I believe is so important if you take a look in parsha's TruMark the amalgam tells us a fascinating thing the posix says make for me and make Dash and I will dwell in them so some say it means I will dwell in the Jewish people some say it means I will dwell on both but they make Dash but then the posix says another thing bahraine tassel and suddenly you shall do it so what do you mean so you shall do it it just says why does it say it a second time and the malam tells us the most incredible thing he said every person is supposed to be build amign in the chambers of your heart you're supposed to build a Midas in other words every single one of us is supposed to be a walking talking based Amigos and he defines it and he tells us how your head is like the all right why is it like the orange brain is here and in the orange you have the sehal of Torah which is the breeze so your head is an orange your heart you can't exist without a heart and you can't exist without bread so your heart is like and your stomach is like the miss bayach the miss bayach consumes the carbonis and your stomach consumes food so if every one of us would think about this really we are supposed to be a walking talking based on the gosh the oreign and we have to make sure that our migdash that we have built and we try to build within us is not destroyed and if we can make sure that that's not destroyed then the thirdly somebody this is going to come back that's what I believe our goal has to be we have to understand that we are a living representative of all of Claudius Royal Governor tells us hashem's name has to be blessed how the way you drive the way you shop the way you behave in the airport the way you behave on a plane you represent Claudia Israel and if we would only teach that to ourselves and our children and make sure that the mishkan or the amigdas within us is sound then I think we we can have hope the third base that make us Rabbi thank you so much for who you are for what you mean to so many people and for these words as we start to end this this this fast it means so much to hear him and I know that uh and thank you again for an amazing job and for joining in this project we won't tell everybody here when when I contacted you and when this got done you know we'll make everyone think that it happened months ago it's my honor and my pleasure really okay Charlie you're wonderful I heard different things that you spoke about thank you just keep it up I met your second boy at Camp Romo thank you doing a great job I mean thank you Rabbi thank you so much she'll be so connected by you by the base of May I make man that was Rabbi Crow and he he's the greatest in the whole wide world there's nobody like him in the whole wide world he he really is a person who cares about Carl Israel in a way that so few people do it's it's really you see why he's so beloved it's amazing and and I think you know I did this project together with him the way he defines you know us as a college girl through the lens of the film and the destruction yet the rebuilding which has really been our story um I think that uh would only be appropriate really to I'm gonna hand this over to you yeah you know someone who has really uh in the past been a guest of this show numerous times yeah um and as its appropriate fetish above to think about it yeah to think about who we're missing here today you know there's a the person I remember sitting right in the spot right remember yeah oh we suffered this this year the loss of a great man Hashem has his ways Hashem knows better um everybody Zachariah wallstein was was somebody who was Beyond this world and um and it's hard to go through tishra without him earlier today in ornava he was the the driver and in fact people don't know that very well seen in many ways the whole or novel world was born in Tish above it was born with a few women that wanted a Shear that he gave and it LED and led and led and led in so much of what tishop stands for which is seeing the best in other people and all of that growth and he he owned it he he he he embodied it he really didn't I remember specifically um he's been on numerous to these shows but I remember specifically one year he walked in here and I think you had a whole list of questions for him and he said Charlie I'm actually gonna take this a whole different we're like excuse me Charlie like I have a little bit a whole different thing which is so normal for how it happens he has his own way I feel like it's only appropriate to pull up you know that clip oh wow actually oh wow numerous years ago sitting right where I was and he said Charlie I'm gonna take this whole time okay move on over okay in darkness so this Tish above instead of talking about she's off the Derek kids oding people dying cancer crisis off I said I'm not going that way at all I am talking about the darkness that we're looking forward to I am talking about the Beauty and the moyade of Tish above and that's what I talked about the whole time but I want to tell you because you love my review very much so I call them up I say rabbi gamliel what's the message what's what should I what's my cavana that's what I asked he said the following he said number one you need to know that all the Kenneth and everything you say has nothing to do with you we're not saying that killed us for us it's not about our pain and the Six Million Jews who died he said it's about the Six Million children Jews that were God's children that died he said the whole Tish above and the whole Guinness and all the murdering acts as well and the girl that jumped off the boat and the asare who came out because it's not about us we're reading all about this that now we understand Hashem how much you lost there's nothing to do with us and it's the pain of the shrina and that's what tishima in desire it says that if you want mashiach because you want someone who died you want to see him or you know you you're someone who's sick you need refusalem so so the the ramam calls you an epicures he says you have to want it for the Sheena to come out of the Galas and this is I'm going to end with this this is the line and he says to me when you when when you dive in Myra tonight might say Tish above where you going after that was like a strange question like what what I'm like uh what does it really ask you I want to know where you're going for sure I said I'm going home he said all the people in Yeshua where are they going after Myers tonight I said they're going home he said all the people in America where are they going after my roof tonight I understand where he's going am I they're going home well there's someone who's not going home tonight and that's god wow and therefore you have to cry we're all going home Tish above's over for him never over his children are in Godless his house is burned down he has no home so don't forget that much edition of you may be going home but he has no homo wow that I don't know if there are words that follow that that that's in many ways that is the message that Hashem is not going home in many ways the the messages it's not done yet we may be finished with this piece of the fast but our work is not done yet our our job in this earth is not finished by the way Eric wallestine lived this this is from five years ago wow five years ago today wow you did love it I mean this is you know he was always looking forward to the future to the brightness to the you know the focus on moving forward amazing yeah there's actually uh there's there's another clip before we we close this show out that went around today and again I just want to shout out to Torah anytime because they yeah put this out on the daily dose today and I know I shared this with more people than I share you know pictures of my kids with because I felt it like on a Daily Dish above this was this was the message to think about I know we quote him you know when in terms of the ending of the fast but a similar message but maybe even a stronger message about the meaning of Tish above and what Tish above is not more importantly than what tissue is let's go to another short clip from zakari Wallace yesterday I wasn't sure my land miles everybody came over me through the wall scene we hope machines will get here before tissue well the Manchester is going to be ayanta am I My High so it's a youngster because I live around with the fast that we don't have to fast because it's cold do you know that cool if you want the Shia do you don't have the fat you're not because I'll show it to you in a safer if you want what she asked because your grandfather died and you want to see him if you want the Shia because someone's sick and they need to report Salama you want to shift because you're not making your final song if you want the Shia for any other reason that the Shino is in gogs it's written and waited for crying he fella writes it and I'll be curse the only reason that we want to show up to be young the next year because our Tati he's been knocking on every one of our doors and we don't let them in and we threw them out and we're not taking them back as the ghost of the screen off and therefore the only reason that we want tishima to be called The Mighty because the might is foreign because honestly everybody here and I'm talking to myself let's face it you're already sitting on chairs we're halfway there tonight we're gonna have Cocker steak and orange juice and if we're lucky enough one pizza shop will be open and we'll be having calzones and pizza and I want to cook tomorrow we're going to be a pomegranate getting some steak or with all the places to play but Frank come rolling heavy and every bundle time for everyone yeah you want some weight today but what changed what changed what cheese what did you change he's still not allowed to come to your house we still have those phones and that internet and those movies and all the other stuff in our life so for the Sheena it's Tisha before here for us it's one day goodbye two thousand Tish above and nothing's changed you know why you know why nothing's changed because we haven't yes we said can this yes we sit on the floor and tonight it's party time and tomorrow we totally forget at 12 at 102 minutes I said we're gonna all turn on our music but Lord I was gonna have a concert once I shot his master move and by next week you won't even remember this not next week by Thursday not even Thursday but tomorrow night this is over come yeah this is not Tisha ball nobody said next year it means Hashem God should have his home back me too that's always interesting Michelle should come so we don't have to go through this again the whole year doesn't change for him it's the same story nothing changed back here with our our final message of gold lost has been with us for many years as well um and we can't think of anyone better to close the show out this year than than him and to really leave us with a thought a message um as we end this Tish above and so without further ado thank you for joining us thank you for being with us thank you for inspiring us and we turn to you um to finish our program here and and leave us with a message that this Fest really uh we can take with us well Charlie just to be here project Inspire sorry knowing that the world is tuned in to project Inspire is a measure of comfort at least as interesting we cry we cry at night so there's an interesting shot why do we cry at night two types of crying one cry is when you're crying because you want people to hear you you want people to help you the other crying is a personal crying cry at night you cry in your house you cry in your room you cry in your bed even nobody hears but a semisphere hears it and realizes we're crying over the horben or the personal Corbin whatever a person has to cry about the source of all that saurus and the tears are in Tish above so there was a great Sadiq review in the Voca rabba there's a guy that came in and he said rabba uh I need a big Yeshua give me Yeshua the worker ever thinks for a minute and he says to him I'm sorry the gate in shamaim is closed there is nothing I can do guy breaks down doesn't let the Reps see him he goes out about an hour later the guy sees that there's a horse carriage is coming running running running after him the rabbit gets off and he says you know something I told you there's nothing I could do it was a lie it's not true there is one thing I could do I could cry together with you they sat down they cried under the tree they cried so hard that the little boy that the man came about that needed Yeshua God is Yeshua wow the one thing that we can do the whole Tish above is we can cry together we can hear each other we can feel each other's pain all the tears should be dried anybody has a tear Shalom bias a tear needs a reform a Terry Yeshua arnosis children going off anybody that needs anything in the world the tears of Tish above should help that there's no more crying oh man wow Rabbi such an honor that you're with us it's an honor to be hit if I could just one I just I don't want you to go I mean I I really want them to have one more moment with you as we as we think to ourselves as we walk into which what we're now looking for is the nahama as we're now getting into the world of Shabbos what can we take with us as as we we hear we heard a while she said earlier and it really connects what you said about the crying I don't want to go into the next phase forgetting about Hashem right we we we we gotta somehow not forget how does how does one do that how does one go from Tish above to nachamo and not forget Hashem along the way that's what makes Rabbi Harare [Laughter] one way it's only my own so you don't have to take it for very much if I ask anybody here say shirhams for me Papa 's good okay foreign how a person never forgets Hashem every day of golus wow remember we are here we need Hashem I got to have that that's missing foreign next year will be a big simple project in spiral being your shalim somewhere making a whole thing and yeah I'm sure it's gonna be great we're gonna be over later every year every man every woman every boy every girl should know wow wow that's the way that thank you Riley for being here thank you for what you do for us and from Target Israel and that's really the way we we rap the show yasi thank you again for a great show and thank you so much for for what you've done and what you do for call Israel sure Charlie thank you again I hope Mr chamber probably Wallace and just if I could mention one more time he did tell you when he was here he said that when when you know he was he was a cayenne and he said he'll get you he did he promised me and he promised him he will get you in the back door I'm holding him to it he promised me about whilst he promised me that I don't have to wait online for the for the next car on pesach um and I guess that's that's our show that's that's our show that's our that's uh we're trying to give across here is the idea of of Triumph through tragedy and you hear from so many different people about how we do it how one does it how one is able to really grow from this as we end Tish above we have to realize that this idea of Tish above is something that takes place not just in our Collective lives but in our personal lives and each of us has that moment of challenge like the rabbi said a moment ago I'll noticeable remembering where we are remember Wallace things that were Crohn said remember all the different pieces of the show and our goal is to stand up today and to never sit down again to be blown away by the small miracles to realize that we have one incredible Nation that's there for each other be there for somebody and appreciate when someone's there for you and together as one nation if we have that level of Faith we'll overcome anything maybe just maybe that resolution right now as we get up from Tish above we'll create a scenario where we will go from Mikhail Ohio my brush is that next year should be tuition to be doing the show with the base ammunition our backdrop to all of us together singing and dancing with the Binion base of Medusa [Music] [Applause] [Music] Arrow Jerusalem [Music] place [Music] foreign [Music] eyes [Music] same houses [Music] foreign [Music] [Applause] [Music] live here [Music]