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Tisha B'av Talkshow 2023- The Extra Mile

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oh yeah another tissue above we see you again it's amazing every year when we finish this show we think this is the last one and the next one's going to be with the backdrop of the base of magnesh but we'll hear again and like every tissue above tissue begins with lots of Darkness you sit on the floor we read aha we remember all that we were into all that we lost and the way khazal builds this day for us is that over time we start to get out and we start to move on says the inner life force is being revealed as the shell Falls away and the next year is born and the question as we go year to year is what do we take away from a day like and each year we try to find lessons and things that we can learn for us to become better and bigger if you look around at the Jewish people year after year and you find that there are people that carry the light there's a lot of darkness in this world and Tish above stands for the darkness in this world and Tish above was the source of it but as you stand up and as we get to the end of the day we have to remember that there were lots of people that carry hashem's light to bring the Gula in their small little way in small little pockets one day we'll see it for everybody and the question is how do they do it our nation is built off the backs of the few that seem to always surpass the darkness to always be building to always be moving to always be in motion and so the show that we have today for you is a show about that concept what does it take to be one of the few that is bringing Gula that is bringing the light that is overwhelming the darkness that stand and move and grow to allow classical to move to the next place and ultimately to the final place and so we have an incredible show under the concept of these few Trailblazers these few leaders and what does it take what does it take for me and you to walk away this Tesh above and live a little bit closer to those few that have always been carrying us and will be carrying us to the Future check out this book that we have of projects inspires incredible film this year honor of nothing greenblatt that's the whole point not just issue we wanted the Makaya and he wanted to teach Tower Olive face or Gomorrah it didn't make a difference it's all at 50 to come to this and if you're sincere in what you're doing and this is the reason do not worry about it don't care what this guy says and what the other one says okay we're gonna talk a little bit more about not to group out over this this show but before we continue let me introduce the one and only my indefatigable co-host the executive director of project Inspire Jesse Freeman's with us again yes it is an honor to be with you and thank you so much for another year talk to me a little bit about this film what it meant to you what inspired you and and what this show what we have in store for this show yeah you know we're discussing you know today's probably I would love to say it's good to be back with you it is not necessarily A patish above I'd rather be sitting over sitting overlooking the backdrop yeah the backdrop of the the basement will get that who do we have to talk to to get that slot yeah yeah I know you know some people make sure we get that we'll get that spot but we're here discussing you know you the point that you're making which is that there are the few and the closer we get to those two the closer we we come as a nation yeah heading the direction that we want to head in so this that was a little bit the inspiration really to this uh to this film which we entitled the extra mile and the reason that is because when when you study with not the green blood that's hell he was a man who you think like who really heard of him and then when you start to do the research out there like so many so many people had a connection to another Green Bay it was somebody who at 23 years old so an added newspaper that they're looking for a housing in Memphis went out there now we're not talking about somebody who you know was looking for something to do this was a man who knew color terracula he studied under Malaysia he studied time he you know he he was a Brisco Thomas like his grandson you know but and yet he saw a need he saw an ad and the rest is really history yeah but it really the film takes her of nothing as a person not only is somebody who saw an ad and went and did something great who was never satisfied with what he was doing who wanted to do more who knew he could do more who demanded people he knew to do more and you know Charlie I don't know how many people there are sitting around that you know can deliver that message to us oh yeah you know on an ongoing basis and so remember was that inspiration of course rodova greenblatta's son was very close to us in Project Inspire and there's other many things will be on with us later in the show wasn't inspiration for that show itself of course credit to robiakov vinegar for uh you know for pushing Us in that direction you know without further Ado just to mention yeah we're gonna go producing this show and being behind the scenes as he as he is uh every year but you know Charlie just the I think the important part is that you know people say to me like you know oh my gosh every year more and more films more and more Productions like you know I don't even know what to watch anymore and to be honest with you on my way in for Muncie in order to stay up I I was watching Torah any time yeah it's good stuff right exactly I don't know how my mother's gonna be hearing that but or my wife but but but there's so much out there but the truth that matters from our standpoint from an organizational standpoint from the message that we put out there is that we're looking to take a Christ Our organization of North believed that if you take a highest responsibility for cloudy so that's how you're going to come to love them right a parent as a responsibility of a child you have that responsibility you learn to love them and you learn that you know the mile is it and so this is a film about Christ the film that filters down to the individual watching it in terms of a very personal message at the end of Salman pointing that out as well and and I I believe it delivered the message above as well it definitely delivered it we watched it and I was completely blown away by it and what if you haven't watched it yet go to projectinspire.org projectspire.com and and download it it's incredible and and what what there's so many lessons that I took from it um the two of them that really stood out for me was one this idea that taking a cry is gives you the ability to do things right responsibility leads to Ability this idea that here's an individual the 23 year old ends up in Memphis Tennessee and just by just taking a cries to build the school and to be this to be the he just not only Built the community but he was the the rabbi of America yeah America of small town America and and you would think that you have to get trained by that but really the training is taking a rise right and the second thing that really stood out for me that I thought was so powerful in the film was the humility many times in life when we take a class everyone will take a Christ to be the CEO of an organization I'll tell Christ for that but to like teach somebody alephas or to help somebody out it's beneath my dignity and here's a RAV who was a complete guyan who knew everything who they were saying on the film you never asked them a question that he wasn't willing to he wasn't able to have he knew everything and then he spent two years teaching aleph Bayes in Memphis Tennessee right that's like not normal and when you think these Concepts out it sends the lesson that if if somebody if me and you and that's what we're doing the show this isn't about not to Green but he's a lesson for us if me and you are willing to take more responsibility in the life that we already have in the areas that probably we think is beneath our dignity right the kid this the neighbor whatever that's all beneath us if someone hands us a title we'll do it but the the areas that we can do but that we don't don't do are the areas that Hashem wants us to do and that's where the broker comes in that's right and again that that was what you know in in making this film there was there was obviously the sensitivities of family making sure that you get the message right but that was clear the family of ramnatha and the people who were close to him were banging us over the head making sure that the message of not this life was not a message of who of nothing was but who he wanted all of us to be and listeners to what we can do in order to in order to you know bring these things forward in our life you know without just probably without without further Ado I want to say a special thank you to Mint media sure Mighty Schindler and his team for putting together such a beautiful film of course the Danielle Haas uh in Israel who was in traveling America you know to make sure this all went down rodova greenba told me a line he said for a million dollars I couldn't get rid of my Lansky behind the camera Danielle managed to get him behind the camera amazing so we had all these amazing Personalities in there due to her hard work as well of course the fellows are told anytime who are partnering with us on this live stream and who partner with everybody on any stream anywhere because they're just or anything no unbelievable unbelievable and of course what we're going to be doing is talking about leaders people that took take Aquarius and so if you have a story for us um we'll try to do it on this show or on future shows of somebody in your life or someone that you know that was a leader that took a cries and became somebody and gave something uh email us at radio project inspire.com we'd love to hear the story we can get to it on the show yeah or to share with us any comments on the show maybe you have a story about you know ravnato or anyone else who joins the program throughout the evening um you know before before kakash cake and oranges okay let's get to our first game yes so we have we have with us today uh a special guest actually waiting up in in um vechamish in Israel I know what time it is over there because uh that's my land you know but uh yeah but it's it's almost two o'clock in the morning we have Donny fine with us nadani was born in Brooklyn raised in Staten Island with us made Alia in 2009 a regular guy and this is what we're talking about like the regular but irregular guys you know who is like like any of us and he started something in 2017 called Mitzvah opportunity which started on a small WhatsApp group and grew to hundreds of people and multiple groups and dami on these little WhatsApp groups we're going to speak to them in a moment has raised almost 5 million shekels on these by the by WhatsApp groups for different you know for different needs inherit Israel against somebody Rick I know him a very long time I grew up with him and here's an individual who took an opportunity um that was small if you will and made it in Monumental so Donnie it's so great to have you on that's great to be honest thank you for your thank you you guys are doing amazing work as well is that a real background no well it was it's a real picture that was picture yeah because if you're faking the background I mean I like the coastal one better we'll take the new projects in room up HMS you know I could switch that to that one easily right now well Donnie thank you for being up talk to us a little bit about this stuck uh idea that you did give us a little bit of that background all right so I'll tell you where it started it's not really it started 25 years ago but I'll uncle that far back basically in 2017 I was riding a bus back from Jerusalem I'm pretty sure I was at the hotel and uh I happen to have been on my uh on my phone and I was checking uh social media Facebook and uh some lady put on a local ramaph uh WhatsApp group or Facebook group uh that she's uh her and her family they don't have money for food for Shoppers and I'm not really sure what uh what struck me I don't I don't recall exactly what went through my mind at that moment but basically I uh I I reached out to the lady I said How could somebody not have food for Shabbos I myself was going through my own struggles at that time and I'm like this this just doesn't make sense somebody needs to help her I'm gonna I'm gonna step in and I reached out to her personally and I said if you could just send me somebody that can verify your situation I'll I could probably help you out with some money for for food for Shabbos and she sent me somebody uh she's actually living in a Muppets I'm just gimbal at the time and uh verify the case very quickly I'm pretty sure this was on a Thursday and uh Arab Shabbos I was able to bring her you know whatever it was a few hundred shekels I collected from my friends and that snowballed into something you know on a weekly basis I was looking out for more opportunities uh to to help out to have local families there's a lot of families that are struggling here on Israel unfortunately so after a short period of time again I wasn't really like conscious of what was going on because it was just uh it was just me kind of playing around helping people and uh I started a WhatsApp group called Sudoku group with like five friends four or five friends and every Arab Shabbos that go around to their homes and collect money and bring it to a family and that snowballed into you know 5 10 15 friends before I know it had 50 people on a group and um you know been doing this for a couple years and then uh and then Corona started and I really saw a really like a big pain point in people people losing their jobs they just they just there's just no work I'm you know I myself was really was really struggling I looked up I'll put my wife at one point I had 50 people in the group and I said what if we had a hundred people on the group what could we do my wife looked at me she's like go for it so I I made a LinkedIn post um I'm pretty active on social media on a regular basis made a like thin post and before I knew it had 100 people and I was scribbling scribbling numbers down on a on a napkin on a piece of paper um you know adding things up making sure we reach the goals you know and we now we're ready we're starting to raise money for tell people with fill in and a few other uh cases not just money for food for Shabbos but that That's the basis of it and that's really how the how the group started have you ever when you started this thing did you ever get a sense of what where it would go um or is it a I think this is sort of the critical piece to this was it a this is what's in front of me right now let me see who I can help in front of me so I honestly I honestly had no idea um where it could go I I didn't I didn't think that that far had now now literally six years late only now I'm starting to think what what can what can we do how can we grow this um I'm only first putting a website together now um I really didn't know what what was going on and then just you know I've been doing this it started where I would I would it got to a point where just doing one or two raises a week one group next thing I know um Hillel fold did uh did a LinkedIn post uh about it I think it was about a year ago maybe a year and a half ago where he um he really he interviewed me we had breakfast together and when we were leaving he goes so I go where are you posting this he goes it's already up on social media by the time I got home from from breakfast 15 minute drive home I had about uh I had the the groups were exploding I had I took I basically took a week off from work to organize it I went from 100 150 to about 550 600 people literally overnight and uh we started uh we it really started getting serious that's when I was like you know I need to get organized if you see next to me I always have them at desk I have three screens on my desk one of them is basically devoted to the Mitzvah opportunity it's a whole long spreadsheet that I've been building for years and years we recently aired to the chat bot to the WhatsApp group to take a little to alleviate all the work from me and um it's just it's getting serious uh it's getting serious now you know Danny I'm listening I'm listening to say this and I'm hearing like what sounds to be a full-time job of I'm creating this and I'm setting this up and I had a meeting with this you also have a realty company in Israel Elite Israel Realty you know there are people who are who shy away from these type of initiatives because they feel like it'll take up all their time they won't have time for work family yet it seems like you're speaking about your full-time job how do you juggle how do you juggle all this so I'll be honest with you um it's it's not easy I I'm blessed thank God Hashem I thank God every day multiple times a day that I my I'm able to make a pranasa my my parnassa position is helping people helping Jews come to Israel find homes in Israel and then in Israel I can help people make sure people have money for food for utilities for medical anything um in in Israel so I really feel blessed and I find the time I'll be honest um I'm not a Giver by Nature uh but I'm very blessed and I've and I've learned to become a giver through this through this group and um and it's it's been inspiring me every day but uh what I see on a on a absolutely incredible level is the more I work on the group and it takes a tremendous amount of time on my part every week it really does like a full-time job the more I see success in business yeah so yeah I agree with that yeah I I I don't I don't know how to explain it so they don't know you're doing a great job taking care of hashem's children that's exactly taking care of me and we we thank you Donnie for being here and you you've explained it perfectly and we thank you for for what you're doing and what and what you stand for it's amazing yeah there are people out there that are watching this that want you know to either get in touch with you or think of starting something along this nature what's the best way for them to um besides the contact with us we can put them in touch with you is there an email address or an ad something or a DOT something that they can reach you at so number one you can always find me on LinkedIn I'm pretty active on LinkedIn or you can email Mitch m-i-t-z-v-a-h-o-p-p gmail.com and uh and I'll be able to uh to field call uh you know if somebody wants to join the group they can send me the contact information I can always add them to the group amazing thank you Donnie Donnie thank you thank you for all the work that you're doing thank you for inspiring us over here and you can finally go to sleep now I hope the orange juice and The kagish Keg won't keep you up thank you yeah meaningful fast guys thanks everybody and and I want to just sort of double click on what he said for a second which is um I love the fact that in many ways Donnie is a regular guy and he's saying that the work that I'm doing um is only allowing me to have more success right and that's a big problem that people have is people think that if I get involved in the community if I get involved in helping people it's going to pull away from my success that's a lot of what the show stands for is a highest leads to success if Christ leads their ability and many times it's the same way of thinking which is I have a limited amounts of time and I have a little amount of things that I got to do and they're they're living in a very physical way of seeing the world but when you move into a world of Hashem you do for hashem's children you do a little bit more has some figures that way for you to get as well yes he doesn't it's really amazing and amazing that he would stay up to share that with us yeah for sure after a fast okay so really and and what else do we got going up in the line yeah there's there's a tremendous lineup over here as you see City next to us which will get to momentarily is Greenblatt who was both the push and inspiration behind to film the extra mile about his father or if not the Greenblatt will have with us for much of your Leaf uh of course here in in Flatbush uh we have a special hamodya segment of this we want to thank amodia for their partnership in this show with a lot more coming up with Robin's of Carmen as well lots to go we're actually going to go on for those that are watching no fear we're going to be going until 8 45 or 8 44th we have time to get to my roof right at eight four eight forty four so uh I have no fear without further Ado Charlie yeah so I think we have a clip now we're going to start we'll start with with first um so thank you for joining us love to be with you guys I love you both and thank you for being on the show I gotta tell you watching the show about your father was it was a complete blow away I I never fully understood um a him personally but more importantly the impact of what one person could have on so many groups of people that are all over this country share this a little bit you know before we delve into it I want to when when you when you see us a film like that the people across the film seem superhuman they seem like they have been placed in this world by God to do things that no other human being can do show us a little bit what it's like to grow up in that house your dad as a son um from the other side of the screen um my father was a wonderful father but um we understood that his life was the life of Torah and his life was a commitment to the community and he lived it you know the way we influence our children is by who we are and what we do and not by what we tell them yeah my father very rarely gave Muslims him he didn't even tell me details of halach I had to watch him before I knew that he was doing certain only as I got older and learned how lost I did I start to see that's what he's doing he didn't didn't you know didn't push me to to do things we grew by watching him and uh he took humorous on himself arav has to go out of his way to be Michael on the tibur to help people when they have issues to figure out how to make that should should help them and not not to make their life more painful than necessary but with his own self he took plumbers on himself I mean my father built airavent around the country and he would not use in there if he wouldn't wear yamaka under his hat people always asked why you know he's coming over the head he's dominating with a Hatton show because he didn't have a yamaka because that would mean using the Arab in it from you can understand the Khmer because you have a hat why do you need an ayalaka but that was a homer that there is a sad to say that you know we we have to treat our uh our our you know how locally their issues that he himself would not rely on things even though he himself had did it for the zebra he would never tell anybody this not even me but um so his life was one but we saw that so um that has a tremendous impact we respected what we we saw what was going on here um and a person who was extended himself for the seaport and was lived a life of terrorist spiritual life my father learned all day and all night he didn't it never sat in a room where there was bartola if there was bartola people were just talking he would respectfully I knew what he was doing I do he's respectfully leaving but he wouldn't you know hurt anybody but you know it was you couldn't hear that you know you're mentioning an angle that I think wasn't really brought out you know there's so much that I've seen in the editing process and in the goings-on of making this film that you know it's sort of hard to but but whatever is touching on a part of him taking on humor as well understanding that there's something because it's you know it's either I actually have a clip I I wasn't planning on showing this if we could pull up there's a clip where someone relays a conversation I don't even know if you saw this clip but let's play this clip I I think it's along the lines of what you're what you're describing it was a couple years after high school and I came down with a friend from Yeshiva on the yearly fundraising trip to pick up the early checks and he looks at my friend and he says to him I recognize you what's your name and my friend tells him his name he says I met you last year right so he says yes you're the boy who gave me a hard time about Shavers right and my friend starts turning colors and he's I said what's going on so Roberta says one minute I want to get something I want to show you something so he leaves his study leaves the room and my friend says to me he's so embarrassed he says I don't believe what happened I said what he says I met him last year and we got in a conversation that there was a tumult going on in New York at that time something about electric shavers there was one brand of electric shavers that some posts were saying it might be problematic based on the the foil and the shaver how they came together and he mentioned the story of nothing was absolutely adamant based on a conversation he had with Moshe Feinstein years earlier absolutely not a problem there's no problem with that electric shaver whatsoever it was adamant wouldn't back down but he went to the other room and he came back to the study and he had a beautiful new Norelco with him and he starts telling my friend he says you know I gave a lot of thought to that conversation I still think I'm right but you were telling me that other posts can weren't happy with that shaver I needed a new shaver anyhow that's the one that I had it was time for a new shaver and I figured based on our conversation let me get one that everyone will agree with and he starts taking our hands and rubbing them because he had a very neat and trimmed well-kept goatee but his cheeks were perfectly clean shaving starts taking our hands and rubbing them on his cheeks saying feel how good that is I've never had such a good shape in my life I'm so happy we had this conversation a year ago not only had he backed down he was thanking him but I was laughing so hard and years later after we moved here and I saw how he was such a person who was firm with his positions that that conversation grew on me more I I think I appreciated it a little bit more when I realized that was a big step for him you know two to have backed down into to have made that stuff there I'll tell you what I took from the story and I want to get your opinion on it what I took from the film you know after we watched the film today you know uh we each we all wanted to take something we all said what did we take from it and I took something from it and this is a story that I think explains it was that great people I find are incredibly humble more than they should be it almost feels inappropriately humble for your father teach Isle of base after spending night and day with emotia it's insane it doesn't make any sense someone and I don't think he ever said like what are you doing I don't think they ever come and say what am I doing with my life when am I going to make it one day when am I going to cheat when he spent the time doing komish Rashi with that person I I and this is the same story people that have achieved greatness and I'm asking I'm not saying seem to allow a lot of room for Hashem because a lot less room for them let me share something with you I've been thinking about all of us average people our me dose are such that Anova is you know I really deserve a little covered but I know I have to be another good very good very good um it's an it's in many other places um I know that I have to treat everyone like my brother and my sister and I'm gonna they are everybody's my brother my sister but they're not really my brother my sister but I'm gonna I have to treat him that way that's my obligation is to treat every Jew like they're they're my brother my sister and this manifests itself in in amen you know in in many other examples of um but great people I know there's another I know great people they're not battling that way my father his another was he would not know what you're talking about he wouldn't know why you needed a video here he would sit here looking at you guys like why did you waste all this time to do this and you see he viewed other Jews as his brother and his sister I think this is an important point for us at project inspire we don't treat with a brother and a sister is treated differently than someone who's like a brother and like a sister there's nothing we won't do for a brother and sister Mr is in trouble her brother's in trouble we have no hesitation whether it's whatever the resource is whatever the busha is but if you treat everyone like a brother like a sister so then it goes into well you know um uh why should I move to I can move to this community why would I move out of town just because they're like a brother like a sister but if it's your brother or your sister that needs your help you will move out of town and I think that the difference between great people is that they think differently than we do that that those people were my father's brothers and sister he wasn't they they were that so therefore there's no question you lend money to the Russian that wants to make a bakery and there's no question you take care because if that was your sister or your brother that even if they'd made a mistake and they'd done something wrong on Shabbos they're still your brother your sister right and that but that's the point that's so awesome and so many people have commented to me about this is that it he he would not budge you know the man said agreement said not the fly flies he wouldn't budge it was no there was no chance he was gonna let something like that happen but it didn't mean that he wasn't his brother and his sister and then you know as we're all you know we all hesitate because it's like a brother like a sister but if it was my brother and it was my sister I would do what wouldn't I do and what am I obligate it to do you know avram ran for lowton and waged War for for a nephew because that's a relative not not a great relative maybe whether he is not but he's bloody he's a relative and I think that that's what we have to work on I think that was Nate my father's nature was he was an honor because he didn't know why anybody would be making a tumult about what he's doing and he loved everybody because they were his brother and his sister and I think it's a it's a it's a subtle but a big major distinction yeah I mean it's it's really unbelievable again those who still did not yet see it project inspired.com but I wanna segue to something else because in some sense or another whether we like it or not if a child takes after a father you know we went back and forth air of Tish above because you're involved with specifically two organizations dealing with divorced moms as well as single moms as well as as well as widows today as I'm sitting here 700 of them have used the code that we set up to watch so they're obviously an Engaged you know crowd with you these are organizations that you're involved with maybe not that many people know that you're involved in it but tell tell us how the the going the extra mile for people treating them brothers and sisters not like brothers and Nazis has translated to the work that you've been able to be involved in I'm not talking about anything because my father wouldn't talk about it okay but uh only uh no talk about him but how it passed down when did you get a sentence the lessons you learned that drove you there listen as I said you know we all have lessons from our parents that there wasn't a course in it it was just we watched we we watched It's who they were my grandfather my grandfather so my grandfather started the first uh Day School in Newark New Jersey and he had to take on the even the the shoals because their income was from tamatoa and Sunday school and they were resistant to day schools I think that day school may still be his Kushner Academy today as an evolution of the school my grandfather started but there was great opposition uh life-threatening opposition so that's what is and uh um it's it's a combination of to me it's like uh what are you gonna God's gonna ask in 120 years what you did what you did with the beautiful life that he gave you and um I need to have a story that you know it's not going to be what I can fool him like everything else in life I'm not going to give him uh and you get involved for it so we all have to ask that question to ourselves and um I think that uh it was inherent that like I said my grandfather my father we all we were taught my brothers my sisters that um you have enough rice to to give to the sieber to find the person that can benefit we all have things we can do for other people and teaching educating them and teaching Tyron the project Inspire mission is really what we can do what my father wanted to do is to is to bring Clara to these people to bring our beautiful Yiddish kite to people and um so as it was natural to him I don't if these were natural things for me I didn't really wake up one morning and say you know let's go help the widows or let's go help the divorce mothers or let's go help families that are having trouble this is uh whatever you should be doing and I think it's it's a problem in the rest of the world because it's a spectator generation right okay and we need to go in and create this if we're doing it and we're doing here as we're doing here right just as we close out here but I you know artificial intelligence has the ability to bring you know people's you know thinking you know add into the open if your father was sitting at this table right now after being embarrassed by the film that was what would the message he want he would want us to walk away from here and to walk away from this tissue above from a lesson from his life what would he want us to walk away with and um we all have enough rice to extend ourselves beyond our comfort zone moving to Memphis Tennessee for a bentayra that was born in Newark and sad Byram Malaysia was not Memphis was not his natural habitat the South the South and the 50s and the 4950s was not even friendly to tea and so we have to go beyond our comfort zone and um ask ourselves or do we um have we really used the talents that we have you have a Jewish Education you know so much if you're sharing it with other people are you you know are you if you've if you've got resources are you giving those resources um both of you are beautifully using your resources that God gave the gifts that God gave both of you and I think we all have that obligation and that's what he it was natural to him you know if you came you said my daddy said where do you live you say I don't know forsake the lake we said why aren't you in Birmingham you know what I mean uh one guy one guy came in and he said and a guest told me this story you came to my house she said I asked people to tell me you know stories that happened and one guy said he went into not the Greenlight Memphis and he said where you live and the guy said I live up north he said why don't you live in Birmingham and the guy said to himself he right he wrote he said I now know why he lives in this quote unquote hole in the wall in Memphis is because the guy said the next day he went to Shoal and they didn't have a valkyrie he says I'm about Curry and I've been five years in my city they never once asked me to Lane they didn't need him and they needed him he said so he said now I know what he was talking about amazing okay I want to thank you I know that this is sort of we we tried to get into convention time didn't allow it but Hashem It's A Beautiful film again those who still didn't watch it projectinspire.com I want to just close this segment out with a with a part the best part the best part maybe we're we're done you mentioned your fathers tell you let's roll that clip my father-in-law Larry Brown grew up in a traditional home he went to an afternoon School of talmat Torah but was not an observant Jew at that time did not keep Shabbos I was a typical teenager running around town with with my buddies my father befriended him and uh my father asked Larry why doesn't come to the show on Shabbos my father-in-law said Rabbi I have a paper route he says and how much do you earn and from your paper routes four paper routes I earned a dollar fifty every Saturday he says what should be if I give you a dollar fifty to come to synagogue on shoppers he said you're willing to give me a dollar fifty to give up my paper route on shoppers I'll come I'll come to Shabbos this meant to my father-in-law that there's something more valuable than entrepreneurship there's something more valuable than a paper route there's something more valuable than money my father did give up that paper route and he did do some learning as a result of it he set my father on a path to Yiddish kite into this very day my father-in-law lives and breathes rapnata with muscle is the source of all the fears of all the joy that he has in his spiritual World they have generations of Benet Torah of educators of Scholars of Tamir khanim and children grandchildren great-grandchildren [Music] so many things that we do that many don't know about or many have participated in and for a dollar fifty or whatever it would be or for just caring and being involved with these neighbors and friends we can interest them in our wonderful lives and you'd be surprised what an impact you could make one small deed can have major Ripple effects and it can affect generations and generations to come but an incredible incredible lesson for a dollar fifty which you can do and we look at it now and we say that I would take that deal in the end of the week you know like oh my gosh but guess what we are probably each of us have our own version of that dollar 50 story in front of us every moment like we've never said earlier how many people can we help how many people are right they're they're right outside our grasp it's not even a dollar fifty it's a phone call it's a text just now you look back at what one person can do for a dollar fifty and you I would take that deal but at the time is where it happens seize the moment seize the moment and we we wait for these moments in which we're expecting everything to line up and the music to be right remember here's a young Rabbi in Memphis for a kid who would otherwise be doing a paper route like who would have thought that this this would turn out this way totally except for Hashem and so just do and all the neighbors to work out it was just doing here our next guest is is an example of that as well we have with us uh or of moisha Bender who's the scan rashishiva of yeshivadarachaway who is a key leader in every aspect of the education of 2600 tal medium in preschool through Carolina while before we get to the the the what took you out of Far Rockaway tell us a little bit about what it's like to have that acharyas of Canada it's a it's a really big archives um but I have a wonderful father at the top so it makes it easier if I ever make mistakes you know I have them there and it's a wonderful office I have a partial appearance and I have a I have people to look up to so and then to and to work at the feet of some of the of the biggest it's a great experience even as a working day to day you always have people to look up to your left right and and in case ever Rises equal I speak to your value Brindley and I I speak to martial or Hirsch so right there's people who are when you have people to rely on the lion it makes the life easier for sure but still taken out of Christ is tremendous and and now it's the Horizon that school but being a resident of the area in which that school is found it it impacts the entire community so it really changes the entire area that it's in what does your father do about yasum doesn't like he can't pay tuitions the family the mother I said the answer is that to send whatever you can stand but we don't charge any money for tuition so we have it definitely has as he's saying that Charlie's saying certain things we do have a big impact on other communities you know people look up to you I mean they have they have that you have that track record but tell us I mean an opportunity came up you sort of shift your focus into Lakewood yeah tell us about that for Rockaway we know you've got plenty on your hands right now tell us about the time in which you went and you saw something taking place much further away yeah it's about two years ago almost two years ago it was August 20th it was right before the school year and I was sitting getting dried ready for the Yeshiva as he said 2600 kids the launch put making my 90 classes and every and every teacher and every class should be set and I heard there were 70 80 girls in Lakewood didn't have a school high school girls and I heard about it but didn't really you know and then it was Earth Shabbos basically two days to Yeshiva it was uh the school was starting Monday like and my son-in-law called me up um what are we doing about this so I don't know what drove me I picked up the phone I called to wonder if I was kind of local Moishy trust and uh and uh fill another fellow taxi Rosen and I said I'm coming to make a school I had no money I know nothing I didn't I didn't make any sense and I met a friend of mine on the shops along Goldberg who lives in the five town I said alone we're going to Lakewood tonight take it to Finland and I'm not sure one will come home in a week three days and we just went I went to Lakewood and the school was born with my mom's 24 hours later unbelievable and the momentum said we'll help you a little bit funding for but now we're heading to our third year oh my gosh and it doesn't make it really makes no sense that the school is like a booming not a fault it's fifty thousand it was fifth last year by my dinner got a girl school and he said they're 50 000 kids at a place in each human system so people think that boys who don't have like they have places there's not enough seats at the table so like I needed someone maybe a little crazy like a little more sugar to come and say I'm ready to jump in you know it's hard to have and like Hashem and next year we'll have three classes 9th and 11th grade and the school's functional doing amazing I have great principles Mrs over Mrs Myers two fantastic principals you're fantastic staff a very happy parent buddy Hashem the girls are doing well and I do this when I go to Lakeland there's a lot of times in Lakewood has like 25 holes so whenever I go to Lakewood I I try to make some visits you know for fundraising or visit to speak to some parents or girls I'm making I come back two three in the morning and also my wife puts up with it and uh you saw this opportunity you jumped in it technically though you're in Boise right you jumped at it which which tells me that this really didn't necessarily have to do with your experience that you have all year but you saw an opportunity to jump into something and you jumped into it which technically could have been me anyone else as well it could have been anybody really um I just I just imagined the reason why I really went into it was I just imagined if I have a daughter I have daughters of high school it's Charlie you know it has similar ages to me imagine that Monday everyone gets into uniform and goes to school and let's say your daughter doesn't have a school it just didn't didn't sit well with me I said why should a girl not everything else either she applied late or like to the wrong school or whatever her reason this reason that she didn't get to the school I said you have to put yourself in into the shoes of these parents now and I just did it I don't know take us to that those 24 hours 24 hours was quite um and I quickly formed the vad yeah my father of course they all agreed remember they said whatever it needs to be done I mean I call them myself today's by the way then I said I announced all the 50 girls whoever wants to come can come down meeting open door we're not we're not we're not husband a principal came along and said to me maybe this type of I said this is not the time right now whoever's here right now let's get them into school and we'll see going forward how the schools take shape and I came to meeting Monday night but literally yeah building I didn't have a building and I have really no bullying and I said but we're gonna and people said start after circus I said no when I'm talking after circus after circus means you're different we're starting Tuesday morning Wednesday morning Tuesday's orientation Wednesday like everybody else the school's starting and it was if you remember that terrible rainstorm a number of people and if that that storm uh whites from the revisement there was Nifty on the Tappan Zee Bridge it was pouring around I went to later Monday and I went to like on Sunday Monday night and I literally slept desks from another school bonus I noticed I want to thank him I slept 20 deaths together Mr goldberger in the middle of the night between one and four a.m a teacher that would have broken elevator put into a van and we we dry the desk around 4am my 10 12 days ready for the next morning and and to get that space was another whole thing myself at the event from another school then the school didn't want to let I said you're hurting this guy I told him I would never bother you I'll be on the side entrance of the building you're never going to see me and he's the guy said all right and Wednesday morning the girls is ready marched into school as an incredible story and a tremendous and and it's it's a great feeling for aqua and there's a school running it's great I'm I'm gonna ask you a question that many people either they asked you or they meant to ask you which is why you why you why Me Maybe not because anything I do because I trust maybe my name just I'm a son of someone my father was my grandparents and you you felt that you had you had a certain trust that that that that we have a little bit we bring some comfort level maybe you know again it's again like it's very easy to fool people yeah um but uh but I'll tell you what I I think that as you see the impact you understand what means to something and when you're willing to put yourself out listen you could say I do run in school for 2600 kids I don't need to be slapping a desk at 4am you could have said that you could have said listen I could at the end of the day I do have what to do during the day I'm not gonna hit 120 I'll be like what do you do all day you just you know you took care of kids I think and what we're learning from this whole film that we're learning more and more what we want it we want to drive home to here is that when individuals put themselves in circumstances that are almost impossible naturally but they do it selflessly for Hashem Hashem could take care of a lot of things he knows how to as the laboratory says make above nature work within nature too yeah there's no questions I've seen usually after this it really makes no sense it really makes no sense and I think I think that you know for it tremendously yeah I think and as we're watching this and hearing this it really gives of course the message of like if you want to do something this is your you know ability brings response not ability responsibility brings the police responsibility leads to Ability that you take responsibility for something only then does the able to give you the Seattle you have to first work in the darkness right you didn't sit back from Morocco and make a couple of calls and and then you show up so everybody I love that bring it to Philly yeah he's in parochi and things are just running like I'm sure you know all the issues that have come up with in a girl school you take your take as well I wanna I wanna shift that Focus first of all thank you very much for coming down I know in the fast it's not easy but I appreciate the message you bring and the uh you know the Legacy has has continued you know you mentioned that you mentioned in passing yourself that you know the the that trust yet but you stood up and you did it and there are girls that are in school and continuously in school because you you made that push and that's really you know John I want to shift here for a second because we got a story it's an exclusive story but you know with uh Reserve wolves and everyone knew him as the philanthropist and person who you know supported so much of of Torah and of kirov but you know as a boy he tells a story it's a story about you know it was it was before the the war of independence and male stopped the postal to stop delivering mail to Israel now you know just as a background there's before facts before email you couldn't make phone calls I couldn't send an email right you can't get Communication in there until he's 19 years old right let's have a little bit of a sneak peek as to what he was able to pull off during the war of independence there was an embargo embargo there was no way for the family to send letters back and forth so he had the clever idea he went to the president of KLM airlines and he spoke to him and so he arranged it that the mail from America to Palestine would go through KLM Dutch Airlines and he was just a teenager at that time it's amazing what a young kid can do when you set your mind to it the head of the political Department of the Jewish agency called up this 19 year old stinker to thank me for what I would like I considered it to be much more Memphis in this drink this is exactly what we're talking about is that Wolfson comes in he comes into this country he doesn't have all the resources that he has in his life he's 19 years old and he sees a massive crisis who in the world would think and even now maybe you think because of the internet but who would think they can shift the way mail gets into Israel at 19. right and it's now you later you see what Wolf's what what Zev did and now what his son Aaron is doing and what the Wolfson family stands for and all the all the the kirov and the and you ask yourself like well well it's because they no no it's because somebody took a highest when they didn't have it and it's funny because in his own words would say this is one of the most momentous occasions of his life that was a man who had a lot of momentous occasion in her life yeah between that life as a as a you know little boy as a young boy which I today we're talking a lot about um not uh going the extra mile or David you know put it so nicely which is treating brothers and sisters not like brothers and sisters but really as brothers and sisters we're joined Now by a remote here in Brooklyn and a dear friend now your project inspired but if ourselves personally and uh ramelief knows a thing or two about uh the jewelry in America the town yeah out of town jewelry in America and the what comes along as well as being able to be Marvel it's terrible you know far beyond the little city of uh Minneapolis Minnesota is that correct it's correct I'm turning the tables I'm getting to view you why are we doing this on Tish above I mean wonderful person of nata the people have asked me what connection is that a tissue of and I'll tell you the answer it's all about obviously strong Tish above is about Sinners baseless senseless hatred and this project Inspire and not does that sound again of nuts that was all about being selfless and caring about other people and showing that obviously throw in demonstrative way as you just said I've been to sleep to starting a school out of nowhere and throwing himself into The Fray he's very modest but he's all individuals his his grandmother was my mother's my excuse me my wife's my Rapids teacher in seminary and she told him valuable lessons she taught them that when you dive when you get dressed put on your makeup beautiful there's no models coat there's no Come See Come casual casual attire the most important meeting of the day you know Charlie I'm a successful businessman and you have much to do with people throughout the World Imagine you had a billion dollar deal you're going to be dressed to the nines that's how she that was his grandmother instructing the girls and to this day my kids know that when you're dumb and you're dominating because you're put together so and there's a lot to do with tissue above it has everything to do with tissue box and I finished my interview like show us a little bit what's what's so what I love hearing you speak and I love that you have such an interesting rabbinic forget the regular backwards even the rabbinic background where you are here and where you were in Minneapolis share this with you cat a little bit about that perspective of um from a rub's perspective we learned about ravnata we saw RAV in in in Memphis and there's something that we don't fully appreciate we don't see the color behind challenges and again I'm not saying Minneapolis is in Memphis and I'm not in any way making them all the same but from your perspective as a murder asra um in in a non-incredibly saturated Jewish Community share this a little bit about that experience and the opportunities that are there first of all my background everybody says how was it growing up in Minneapolis I don't know I was born in my mind at his house I came back to Flatbush and the way I ended up in Minneapolis was total practice very good friend of mine who I used to think was my friend reviako fightman so zangazon was off the position there and I was a rebbe in the sift in Cleveland 11th grade my wife ran a nursery school 60 kids I was also an intern brother for sure making money I was happy I was defeating and they started badgering maybe moved they were there for 19 years people will ask the difference between Minneapolis and Flatbush and the answer is there's no difference Jews are Jews and terrorist Terror and challenges and sort of challenges and service but the beauty of Minneapolis and why I would hope you know I have a good friend of mine with simple Scala we all know he's an incredible person we learned High Life many years ago he told me recently he says he travels all over the country and they can't find rabam for day schools and they can't find people are in a mode like the fire in the belly of going out and chewing off and doing something that learning is doing everything there's nothing more than that when we got the cuddle to come to Minneapolis convinced his young Goliath four of them had bought houses in Lakewood if you know the history in Lakewood Beverly available show me you you buy a house in Lakewood you're there and with Ellie pushed them out the door the godler rebellious Faye loved Minneapolis he loved us and he simply pushed them out the door and every one of them is incredible is now the principal of the largest patriarchov in the world 2 500 girls of the shack of a Barber Park High School green book on top of my job as a Rob everyone has wonderful positions but they have the excitement they're going to accomplish just by learning says the consummate has compared to a large case surrounded by smaller cases and it's the Overflow that fills and that's exactly what happens with the coil with an out-of-town community and the people I guess in one word of action they want to grow yeah I used to play the ffbs against the ffcs FFC is from from choice ffb is from from birth I tell the ffbs look how the Ali chuba Daven they took that and to the others I'd say look how grounded they are than it busted by every wind so it's very exciting and I think it was the best place to grow my children amazing you know I I'm gonna steal a line from my my good friend Charlie arari here who says that for us growing up in New York we only know where the other states and countries are because elao has that yeah but but it's hard it's hard as a as a sometimes as a is it been terrible or a regular from family growing up in a regular large city with Torah to relate to not only the needs but the but the the the the the Brotherhood and Sisterhood of Jews in other cities in other countries have being a rub out of town and seeing the people that we don't even know where they live unless we have the allow map you know how do we connect to people that we're not connected to in Memphis or or value to where people that that are not from around us how do we internalize that in the sense of that's my brother that's my sister I have enough rice when I became the Rover Minneapolis and even though his Arabian Mississippi I'd still learn second Stadium the cuddling tells Shapiro and younger man if the younger man came in oh my she took your Mazel Tov you move into Milwaukee you're moving to Memphis they couldn't get the name right to them anything past the Hudson is like so when torment sorrow would have their abundant meetings many years ago and a Shyla was posed of what they would say this is for New York anything past the Hudson was Honolulu so the truth of the matter is if you grow up in New York anything past that in Honolulu but I had a Segway in Cleveland where I was in the yes so we really had taste that out of town it's just very exciting people are looking to grow now I will tell you I had a Shiloh my daughter languages my daughter had been in the Banner Day School of America the Hebrew Academy of Cleveland now she came to the Torah Academy it wasn't at the level of the Hebrew Academy so I asked was the nephew of the Nish very close to my father knows that sound he was a guy another I talked to my issue my my daughter is really not where she was a year ago you know what he told me looked to me in the eyes he had beautiful eyes and he said that I'll talk to them your daughter will become a London a year later and I can't think of a better Community to raise families in Minneapolis and the people as you say very embracing I was connected to the Federation there I had to do with many many different groups of people and you just yourself you don't have to sell Yiddish it's real I mean Charlie knows it is you know this that people just want to hear the Ms and I do think that it was a bit of an era of people being more altruistic you know people are passionate when you're passionate about Yiddish guys and passionate about growth and passionate about accomplishing you're able to accomplish people say how did you build Minneapolis I said I got out of God's way I didn't do anything I consulted with the godliness decisions that were being made and so when you follow that's Terror it's relatively easy to make the right move I know that yes you'll tell me on the time but I wanna I wanna double click on something um this idea of it almost feels like a generation or two ago people are on a mission it almost feels like there was an ERA where kaiso was being built and Hashem had these these Navy Seals if you will if I can use that example even like and he put them places and they had they were bigger than and they you know nothing you're so many others are we at a place now where things are just too are we we feel like we're saturated and and and the need isn't there and if the answer to that is yes how what can we do what can we say how so that this next this current and Next Generation people that have so much it feel that passion well it's an excellent question I want to be very careful and concise the greatest achievement is learning Terror adira Terra Lakewood mere tells panovic Bill sama nothing greater than that that's the really the gold the gold is not as much type and as much Terror as possible so that is success I think that c program jump started a lot of these communities he took bakra out of the mainstream yeshivas and you stuck them in the Boondocks and they became Rebellion at the age of 20 or 19 or 17 became mentors to adults worship them who simply couldn't believe they had this much knowledge and they turned these yeshivas around and they turned the cities around so I think every one of our boys younger light the Menachem Frank he was a member of seed in Savannah Georgia and as the rad band is now very close friends of us Freddie and Esther she's the principal of the day school she had for many many years a letter and she sent the letter to up shmuel kameninski and rip shmuel had it in his wallet for maybe two decades of what Menachem Frank and the seed program did for Savannah Georgia you know just like you Charlie there were many successful businessmen but when you bite into something you tasted and it's exciting keep on going if there was a way that we could somehow generate there are many many seed programs Thomas jump started this but somehow rub it wolves and it was so big sent into all of this stuff the mini cuddles of the column somehow exposed them to out of town have them live different levels in the summer it's not just the touring camps in Montana that stop by and make a Minion for some place in Boulder Colorado I'm talking about just giving them four weeks they do with the girls now many of the girls are interested in moving out of town not just the traveling camps but tormosaurus worked the seed program with girls and they come to cities and they take over the summer programs and they have a Yen for out of town I want to I want to focus it just as a closing remark you've been quoted before saying everyone is a critic but few people step up to be the director something like that something like that I think basically what I said was everybody that it was a Critic everyone it's easy to criticize it's easy to be a Critic it's very hard to make a movie it's very hard to be a director that's a better quote I like that much better oh yeah your world is a much better call tomorrow than that oh but it's much easier to make a move I like that much difficult to make a movie everybody can criticize you just when I was a kid I can't say the name anymore the nyt and you'd see the Critics on the plays and on the exhibitions yeah everybody's so easy to criticize do something with yourself no I know this you you direct movies for a living but I think his I think the message is so the message is so powerful meaning sometimes we sit at the sidelines and we will comment on this community or that this or this guy's going out to there or is it 100 right or is it excellent you know go try it and people still have this fire they're still getting in the light and they're still moving on his Rebellion we needed to be a lot more and I think families now are much more comfortable I remember one of the families that moved to many the the lady the the rabbits and the the cover wives mother didn't talk to me for six months it's like I took a kid away from her now she's very happy that she moved to Minneapolis but at the time it's hard you move but today it's so easy everybody wants miles on Delta everybody wants status what does it want to be the plan to believe and the mail it keeps on happening I apologize I gotta give a thank you so much for being here or thank you so much for being here I note uh Stitch Above it's not easy in the program okay especially if we have to kill the Sinister yeah amazing okay we're gonna go to a uh short video a short song yeah yeah who's this [Music] oh [Music] I'll see you therefore we are talking because [Music] thank you foreign [Music] foreign [Music] today [Music] oh yeah yeah [Music] I am [Music] here I am [Music] foreign [Music] established through the day to remember and to discuss the Holocaust project witness on the leadership of Mrs Ruth luchtenstein produced this moving Incredible video they've gotten great feedback and the impact is really it's really been it's really been tremendous but really what gets me with this video to be honest is having Holocaust surviving grandparents every year Tish above feels like it's one further from the Holocaust there was a time in which my grandparents and the Holocaust and Tish above were all in front of me and over time we are losing these incredible people to see a bunch of teenagers um you feel vinegar I saw in there and I think Josephus um just to see these these teenagers being part of the system so we thank Mrs looking for all that she does project witness and for making sure that we never forget um the horrors of the Shoah and all the tremendous Heroes that we have from there um and and Mr wilston's part of this whole show at this point right of course was on um in uh and capacity of project witness last last year she was on our show and uh of course Mr Stephenson is the editor of hamody and ham has been our partner this year for this segment that's specifically coming up um and Hamilton is well known for of course for all the trailblade trailblazing Publications and really all the material that they put out and you know focusing on important uh historic pieces such as the Holocaust such as so much um about Yiddish over all over but specifically here tonight we have a writer with us for hamadia where he covers breaking news to the newspaper and hamadia.com but also as we got to know him a little bit really uncovers so much of our Rich Jewish Heritage that are sort of floating around out there in different cities and it's really you know been able to uncover so many of these Amazing Stories so Robert Carmen thank you very much for joining us here it's my honor okay so I want to jump right in I know that you're you're you know you've been publishing many many stories and we're going to discuss some of them shortly but tell us a little bit about what it is you do when it when it comes to uncovering these Amazing Stories and bringing it out to the from Islam through the hamadi and other Publications well the first thing is see after the shmias sometimes a thought just pops into my head or I bump into somebody who says uh tells me something and that gets its Peaks my interest and once I'm interested the next is the investigation and the research because the more you look into a story The more you find out you find out that the parents the children the friends and it it expands as you as you speak to people and as you start researching it and you it just it inspires you because you realize there's so much to this story and I just want to bring it to the public so that they should get the same pleasure that I had from right what do you find is a theme in stories you know I'm sure there's many but give us one where you know I'm sure at this point as you start to unravel stories you start to sense that's going in a direction and you start to say hey that seems someone similar to some other story what are some of the themes that you see in some of the stories that you pick up well a lot of them there's one theme is you never know you never know what's going on um I have I have one column which is quilt surprise Beginnings where I tell the story of a famous person's life and I don't tell you who he is till the end and I end off you never know but so that that's one of the themes that I have the other theme they have is that there's a lot of interesting people out there and there's a lot of uh a lot of things we don't know and if you reach out you'll find you'll find the things that will enrich your life too yeah amazing what are some of the I mean as you know I hate to sort of compare because every every situation but I know that from a video we just you know created a video of the life of not the Greenback but you see so much you know footage and you get so many stories and you get so many ideas but yet you sort of have to put your mindset in the reader in your case right and and what what what do you how do you start to decipher stories and material to say wow this is so cool this guy is amazing I love meeting him but like you know for the reader you know they have to hear something else they have to be able to pick up something else like how do you divide that so one of the editors in hamadiya told me you have to have live voices you have to have a voice someone telling the story so even if I'm uh I was uh doing an article about Yeshiva Rabbi mcclurga which began in 1903 I believe um and it it sort of morphed into Yeshiva sunset in the early 50s so how am I going to find somebody that can tell me what it was like to be in the Yeshiva right and one of my colleagues said um I you know I think I remember hearing that uh Marvin high was uh in that yeshiv I remember reading an article right and I got his phone number and I called and called amazing I want to get back to the representative story because I know there's a specific article but I want to turn your attention if you can do a year ago you you put out a you put out a piece called shoe straps to filling straps right we put out a year ago it was about the Chester family tell us a little about what went on behind the scenes towards you know getting to the bottom of that story I actually grew up with the Chesters uh they're my best friends um the three boys one was my classmate one was my favorite for many years and the third one was in between it's also a good friend a good friend of my brothers I spent shavasam there years ago almost I don't know for every Shabbos but I was there very very often and um it was you if you met them you would think oh this is a family that yeah the grandparents came from Europe after the war and they um you know they transplanted their Europe Foundation but Mr Chester used to start off when he spoke by uh he used to say my family came to America after the war the Civil War I think they came in 1869 and um and they are a beautiful you know Splendid mishbach that and the reason so I want to find out what's the reason and recently when uh Mr pace of Chester when he died and I was talking to the Jessa boys my friends especially it's V and he started telling me stories of his father and light bulb went over my head that's why they're such a special now I just want to rewind it for a second because we were talking about akufa in America you know that you know this after the Civil War right and through the 90s where it was not easy to be a Shema Chavez it was not easy it was almost people around he's almost unheard of this story that you were writing represented an era of what it was like which gave more meaning to that story it really took mysterious Snapfish and I'm talking about literally putting your life on the line to keep Shabbos people there was no welfare in those days there was no no snap there was nothing no government help and if you did not pay the rent that month the landlord put you out on the street and if you didn't have money you starved so for somebody to say I'm Gonna Keep Shabbos and if it means I'm going to get fired or I'm going to have to scrape by by being a peddler that's what they did and tell us in a few cents is what what Mrs Chester did at that kufa that well it was Mrs Chesser yeah her name was uh all right uh it was a great grandma but so this the first story started off with um uh the great great grandmother when her husband said I can't make it anymore I I'm gonna have to work on Shabbos so she said actually the the husband had taken a job I had opened uh some sort of free fruit store or something like that so that he could keep Shabbos but he wasn't making it and he said I'm gonna have to open on Shabbos so she said how much are you short can you afford the food he said yes but rent is six dollars a month oh today we spend six dollars like nothing but that six dollars a month and I can't afford the rent she said I'll take I'll take responsibility for six dollars so he could keep Shabbos and what she actually did was very Innovative she made shoelaces and she sold them at one penny profit which meant she had to sell 600 pairs of shoelaces a month to cover the rent and that meant knocking on doors and going you know peddling them in the streets and finding people people buy shoelaces but 600 shoelaces a month and she did that and that kept them wow amazing no and and the continuation of that story is we have with us here um a great great well there's another story where her son-in-law was a peddler also to keep Shabbos he used to leave Mata Shabbos to on the train to Albany and pedal day the whole weekend come back for Shabbos to the family and but his Shabbos was a joyous Shabbos because despite the toil that they had during the week but he had Shabbos wow we we have uh we have uh the continuation of that story sitting next to us as well here today are made of sweet Chester uh who's a magnitude in uh Yeshua base Karen Mayer and safer near shmuel and Rabbi Chester we just heard the the half of the story that you know had a lot to bring the mysterious nevish that allowed you you know to continue the path that they created what do you share this story and what do you get from this story of mysterious Savage that it took to to continue this Legacy and this Messiah well uh for my mother's side my mother came from Russia Yeshiva good Island now we're very proud of that and that was part of what drovement common saw in my house as a child but we're equally as proud of the Chester side of the family because that mysterious nephesh is something that can be described and I even sort of saw it in my father's he would walk through a wall Through Fire to be makayama Mitzvah to do what he has to do and this is something that's in the blood this is something that we have a tremendous mysterious in that fish um and it's something we always talk about I talk to the tell me them all the time um people David once told my father he said there are people nowadays they don't understand what it means mysterious message says they think it means like you walk into a pizza shop and you say um no vegetable slices no no do you have your son is it I'm sorry no This was oh yeah can the day you went out everyone was at the ocean okay I'm sorry and he'll walk across the street to get his yoshan pizza so this but this was like real mysterious and when Robbie Carmen called me and I was thinking like okay let me think about this I'm not sure what this has to do with Toshiba I call them back two minutes later and I said guess when my great-grandmother's yard site is my great-grandmother Miriam titov whose husband was The Peddler whose mother was the one who sold the shoelaces so he says when Chavez I said no Tish above wow and so I guess it's been a shamayim that I should be here saying her story on Tish above um yes so um every year when it comes to sudamafsecus and I sit down on the floor so and I start singing that and I think of my great grandma and I think about the time right before my bar mitzvah I went to visit with my father and she's laying there in bed and uh she says she just doesn't have a will to live anymore she was like 88 years old which was considered very old back then and she said um to my father says but it's going to be me it's used by Mitzvah soon you don't understand the simple so he says well when's her when's his bar mitzvah Thomas this okay I'll wait and she was lifted two weeks later and she said go go to the drawer over there you'll find some few dollars there in the drawer take that and buy him a thriller I wanna have a Helicon wow so as as running out the door talk to us a little bit about this concept about mysterious Snapfish I wanna I wanna delve a little bit with you about Jews that are pushed to the brim and then they dig deep and then they they're they they're never the same and your family how when somebody was willing to go that far from Hashem like you said literally life and death literally you don't have enough food we can't even imagine if someone doesn't have food they're gonna starve forget that when someone goes that far for the Irish stuff it's not just that Hashem finds them the money they they it's almost I feel like as if they they embroiden and they they changed their the husks of themselves and their family how does that happen how did how does your how is your family different because you have this Sora someone who is so willing through my synapse foreign I think it's in the blood it's in the genes I think we all have it 200. and you know it says in the mission of the fromsara Agra you have to know that when you are moisteneration you dig deep Hashem is going to reward you and he's going to reward you with rewards that are eternity and that's an oil but also on this world because look at my my great grandmother what she has to show for herself so many cloth I mean she's she's uh says that the ancestors come down by every two weeks she's putting her address shopping Hashem and so on and she had some relatives her her brother said to her like you know when he was old what did I do when why did I throw away my Shabbos look at your family look at my family and look what you have to show for yourself so definitely I think that's a clown that you see that when someone really goes the extra mile and so on so then it the payers and Peter payers are forever and I'm internal personally and everyone in my family originally grateful that great grandmother if not for her mysterious nephish so we would we you know I wouldn't have I wouldn't know what it means nobody really learns I mean but I learned with common by approval fine we were absolutely I would have missed that on that gun either yeah that's interesting what's interesting is that I think that many times we assume that the results that Hashem will or won't give us is based on the timeline that we have in our head and I think when you look back at stories stories of not to with the dollar fifty and the stories of we're just all the people that have been moisture in Africa call Israel Hashem has a timeline and they don't see it right away like could she have possibly seen the nachos that she's getting today when she did it five years later Ten Years Later and I think what happens to us is that we don't fully appreciate that the kurdishbraham's timeline is different than ours but when you do something for Hashem he's good for it like you can Bank on the average there like he'll he'll deliver it may not be when you're ready for it but if you just give him a little bit like you'll make back the investment and then because I'll say the letters are next to each other so something that's not true truthful is like narrow focused but olive is the first light of the olive base mem is the middle stuff is the final letter when you do something with truth then it will stand the test of time beautiful it's the greatest I think there's another little thing that we can add that his great-grandfather Mayes feet Tito when he came home from Shabbat Sam Albany they would sing a special song and that's really that's really the point over here he he kept Shabbos and killed his remaining to have such a beautiful family what was it what was the significance of that niggan that in the family it was something that the uh I think when my father sank it he sang it with such enthusiasm with such passion and you know he was thinking about his ancestors growing up in America that yes Michelle was killing he said it with such feeling that you know only someone that had mysteriousness for Shabbos could understand that this is really amazing yeah amazing but Jess I want to thank you for joining us here joining us yeah and thank you I know but I think the people that are watching this it's part of this message also Charlie which is you know anyone would take the dollar fifty deal now yeah but it's then when the opportunity came up and he's saying it's like at what level of a serious damage is you know they don't have the usherency across the street people made sacrifices that only much later are really you know coming to fruition but it's take the deal when you when you have the deal so you know when you have that ability to so I want to thank you for for joining and sharing this year thank you for having us and uh it should be as close my great grandmother essentially her name is I want to continue with you because I know that you know in in you touched on the story of representative in but tell us you know there was a story that you came across that it is really appropriate for today's message that we're speaking about tell us a little bit about that story well as I was doing I told you I do research and uh one of the things you do is you Google and I was Googling yes a small story came up from the New York Times in 1930 saying that the Yeshiva Islamic is going to close down I didn't know about this but listen another 20 years afterwards why was it closing down even when it closed down it was just because it didn't really close the galiciana Jews had moved out of the Lower East Side and Hungarian Jews moved in so it's sort of shifted to be a different type of Yeshua but it existed another 20 years what happened what happened with the closing down do the financial intrigued me but I didn't find the answer once we published the artist I left it out of this is how long ago three three years ago three years ago I left it out of the article because I didn't have an answer well a couple of weeks later now a week later we get an uh letter to the editor where um Mr liaison Cohen writes that his great-grandfather great great grandfather had seen an article um in the newspaper that is good was going to close down in 1930 1930. and he showed up in the Yeshiva office he was a fish fish sailor he was a fish Peddler and he showed up in his you know work clothes and I guess it smelled like fish and he walked into the office and said how much money does Yeshiva need to cover their shortfall so that we can it may continue they said two thousand dollars in those days two thousand dollars was a year's salary or two year salary and he says okay I'll see you tomorrow and they left they couldn't believe it you know this uh fish Peddler the next day he showed up in big day Shoppers and his shop is clothing and he put down two thousand dollars probably his life savings wow he put down the money and says the Shiva remains open oh my gosh the reason the reason was because he he had come from the city abroad where shly mcclurger was there of and his mother had been sick and the Islamic clothing and he wanted these Shiva that carried his name to continue this was a this is the leather that we got a couple of years later I was on the on the way on the way home from Israel we're waiting on the line in the airport and I get into a conversation with the person standing behind me what's your name well how's it going up you know and Carmen nice to meet you one second you wrote the story of Matthew and I wrote the letter and we met in person well look at that so we have we have uh Elizabeth with us here uh here in the show thank you very much for the other join us so you see this article on Modia that someone pointed out to you you came across it I can only imagine that shot this afternoon it must have ruined your nap when you were so excited to see this story but tell us about what uh the story you read and your and your letter back okay so I I read it myself on Chavez I read Indian every week and I read that story and my father Oliver Shalom used to tell stories at every Cinema about the family's history that was one of the things he did they make a difference what Simcoe was he wanted people to hear the stories so that the younger people and the friends of these people would all get inspiration from The Acts of the predecessors and so therefore he always told one of the stories was about the altazedi who I'm named after and so was always struck a chord with me and like Rabbi Carmen said he saw it in the Jewish paper by Carmen showed it to me in the times and it was a big ishiva I was shocked because it had 600 boys at the time who weren't really paying tuition it was practically almost everybody was free and he didn't have any children that went to Charlotte mcclurger he only had one daughter he was born in the 1840s in glitziana and he came here in the 1880s and he only had one daughter and she was already married and had children and he used to teach the children to the girls he used to teach them the alafes how they dive in he did everything and he was active initial but and he worked as a pet lover the fish and when he read this he ran right over he stopped everything and he was on Hester Street he ran to Houston Street and they were laughing at him and he came the next day dressed in his big day Shabbos like Baba lives today to do a Mitzvah he dressed in his big day Shabbos I have a picture if you want to see a picture of him in this big day Shabbos he was unbelievable this is him at his 50th wedding anniversary wow great great grandmother and he was worse and that was and that was it really just hold this up for the uh sorry this is uh this is the pic there's the picture that the uh so this is Elias of Sussman your great great grandfather Alias assessment this is he was the one who gave the money to keep on to keep open uh Yeshiva unbelievable story so talk to us a little bit about the impact it had on your family and and and how first of all just let's just pause for a second we we run through these stories sometimes quicker than we should this was he he was was he a rich man or this was a mat this was a massive amount of money for him too it was a massive amount of money he wasn't a rich man but he was okay but nothing you know so he did something that was Monumental that would shift the course financially negatively for his life he made a major Financial move in taking the money that he probably saved up for him and his wife and his kids and handed it to the Yeshiva yes he didn't have a boy in Yeshiva this is not right of the year you know and he didn't he didn't get out at the dinner like you know I'm saying there were no dinners then it was a this is what claudiusville needs I have the ability to help and so I'm going to do something that's beyond what is normal and and here it is take it and go like I'm not gonna get he's unexpected no and Robert Carmen has to be intrigued by the fact that there's a New York Times article in 1930 that yeshiva's closing but yet it didn't so something must have happened and this all comes you know back around so I sent him the letter right away and told him this is why it stayed open and it stayed open for 20 years as a Yeshiva and the Amber and Rabbi Carmen wrote about unbelievable people that learned in the Yeshiva and big dilemma people of great influence on the Jewish world and then it merged with Hassan sofa and this Yeshiva still is in existence today and as I think we have to add one thing you ended off the letter tell us how you ended off your letter about your children so my children thank God I have children who are all ceremy Terror Misfits they're all observant and my my son I have a son who's a good friend of Charlie's who has tamiden many many students he's an unbelievable influenced in the world my other son has an unbelievable influence in the Jewish world and we all try my great my great grandmother took over people to save them from Kinders what kind of transport and my grandmother only looked for her said and they would run around my grandmother and her sisters and that was what they did was trusted was imbued within the family where do you think he got this strength from where did he get the strength to do something like this to to make a move like this he was very dedicated to his shoe my mother told me that you know she didn't know him really that well because she died shortly after she was born but the stories he was always revered in the family and and the stories about him and he was very very dedicated to Sean in fact his children built the iron CODIS by hand in the Young Israel of Williamsburg many many many many years ago and today the shore still exists but it's a black congregation in Williamsburg and our own kotish with all their names is handmade of what is in that chore the power of an individual it's unbelievable and I can attest that you see again you see again what the mysteriousness does the dividends I can attest to to to his children like you know his son is is a massive massive rebby with hundreds of people that are that are inspired by him every day and um and you see what one person can do and how Hashem can pay back over over generation and I I see it all the time do living to do something and you're inspired to do something I had a situation once was asking for money and I decided because I was so inspired to give him the money even though I didn't think I had the money in the account and I got my statement the exact amount of money that I gave him was credited into my account from some other place that I never expected it from and you see one right after the other in and out it still works amazing but I also think that people should take the idea that my father had of telling over stories and transmitting them that's very very important to teach the youngin generation similar was the head of quality frozen foods and a well-known Austin in um Borough Park in Brooklyn over the years when my daughter got engaged to his oldest grandson and they we made the the simplest of my father told the story I heard him go over to me said I am going to adopt that at all my family's interests and when he was Nifty or just during covid I want you to know that every single child grandchild spoke about the stories he told it had an impact and I think that's something that we could also learn from that's amazing thank you thank you so much Elizabeth for joining us and for carrying on the name of your great great grandfather and of course the story there's so much of the story that I think there were Carmen wouldn't have even known about this had you not picked up which makes the story even more amazing and the the we always appreciate letters to the end yes good stuff there are viewers that might have a story you know that would like to reach out to you how how is the best to reach you this is by email B Carmen hamadi.com phone call okay can you tell us quickly I know that you have another story about the basico of East New York and a few in the two minutes we have left of the second if you can uh this is a story I wanted to write for many many years I I have a column called inkwell's chalkboards and slide rules which is about old schools and I wanted to write it but I couldn't find the information I was working on a completely different article about the Spiegel family I called rabbits and Khan who's the principal of a shackle for the sorry the husband of Aaron Khan the Rover in Flatbush and I asked Rebecca her grandfather and in the middle of the story she says well you know that the Romanus Mandel's mother started a school in Brownsville in the 1930s the first base Act of type school in America and my grandfather helped uh you know push and my my mother was from the first students and she told me that her mother was in the nursing home and her mama had come to visit a relative and I was visiting my mother and my mother told the story of how the school started to romance Mandel and he had not known about it and that school existed for many years in Brownsville and eventually it we found out it morphed into base yakova Brownsville which was run by Maya Levy and today's special Jeremiah is a grandchild of that original School amazing well these are these are the stories I want to thank you thank you as well this is because this was just shed so much light not only of the of the Messiah and the Mysterious neighbors but I think our messages you saw people that got up and did and the dividends paid itself out so much later we've all taken that deal but they actually did it I want to thank you for joining us just along you know to get to the next segment we had the the real uh amazing honor of interviewing a boy at the project inspired oh yeah this year who came up with an idea before we get to that clip I want to just sort of stop for a second and just digest for a second with you about just how much we are learning about individuals that are going through what would be the crisis of their life at a certain generation it was keeping Shabbos or not having food today people have different stuff going on in their lives it's gonna look different it's a different packaging but it's the same concept and just how much what we're seeing here I want people that are listening to sort of digest this which is when you're going through a crisis of faith in which you you put Hashem at the front end of your work and you take a stand for Hashem that may not be popular I am sure it was not popular to especially in the family that we said earlier to schlepto Albany and come back keep Shabbos to take the money and give it to the Yeshiva to sell shoelaces to move to Memphis to move to many these are all stories that we're putting together of individuals who at the time did something that was unpopular to the to the people around them but right for Hashem and now we get the benefit of seeing the impact like everyone's like wow had I bought a building in 1942 now I'd be okay right but at the time when no one had any money in the buildings in Manhattan were going down the door like but once you get one cycle investment cycle and you see that when you buy buildings and growing communities they'll usually appreciate the next level of investors say I got to buy the building and I think what I'm taking from here and I hope if you're home right now and you're almost at the place where you're looking at that clock we're almost at the the goal line so we have a few minutes left before the bagel changes the way we see the world is that when you are going through something where you put Hashem in front of you and it's not popular or not easy and you choose Hashem and you choose Yiddish kite what I'm learning here what I hope you're taking is hashem's good for it like you could Bank on the Ramona's home and he'll pay you in ways you can't believe you mysterious you never lose maybe for the next 10 minutes you'll lose maybe for the next year you'll lose but look at the Sierra look at the profits and the dividends that we are seeing today and so when we go through our version of it we got to take that lesson from them amazing and we're seeing this like you know non-step that is the message we had the an amazing interview with a boy yeah everyone here might remember it was a great famous turbo that's video of the boy who had a deal with this teacher that if he got 100 on this test the teacher would put on fillings that's great and and the story you know it went around like wildfire we had the ability to sit and talk a little bit let's see let's take a look I appreciate you coming out tonight to be with her I I want to ask you a question I think I don't think I think my race of hands you know 80 percent of the room had seen that video everyone what I want to know from you is what impact did that have on you watching his words his response what impact did that have on you so One One impact that I had on me is that I realized that you could just be a young boy you don't have to be a big hero professional you don't have to be experienced you could just be a simple young boy or simple person to be able to make about chuva another thing I realized was is that you have to keep on trying I went over to Mr Burger in the beginning of the year and he just brushed me off told me stop trying to waste class time just he just kept on pushing it off until finally after I kept on trying and persisting he finally agreed that's great did you ever think that when you had him put on to film that at the end of it he would feel that you you he did you did him the favor yes sure you know it that's what it's all about determination and knowing that what you have is greater than anything in the world did you know a kid named Akiba outshall do you know him no okay well check out this video I'll show you a little bit about who Akiva outral is [Music] is a boy who saw what you did and he was inspired by you so what he did was he went to his teacher and he got his teacher to put on his villain I think he got a 45 on the test though yeah the whole deal has changed now you get 80s to put on philantharvidas apparently how does that feel that you did something and now Not only was there the impact on the recipient but Collinsville is saying hey wait a second how come he gets to do this stuff and it's inspired to go and now there's probably a million teachers in Brooklyn putting on film right now that's for sure the waiters are all putting on filling after they found out about this but how does that feel so what really I got inspired by is that my neighbor came over to me and he told me that his teacher is not from and they tried convincing him throughout the year and they got him to put on fill in once yeah I think that we see Mitzvah Guerrero Mitzvah meaning you started with something in today's day and age if everybody here saw the film so did they so did students who have this idea and amits Hashem not only will people you know teachers I think that you know come they're going to come to school to teach in termidas I think what's feeling already on you know so they don't have to go through this whole process intervidas if you're in the secular department Forget About You got to put on film that's the rule right it's a better hope than having someone get 100 on the test that's for sure you know but really yeah I am honored to have you with us here today because I think that the message that you just spoke about and what you did is something that radiates in this room through the entire Shabbos everyone here and I think that the rest of the world has a tremendous amount to learn from you so thank you keep it up and now okay and this is I guess the same thing we're seeing again and again but you know when you see it in a a young boy you know when you when you see the stories of people that lived in the 1800s in the 1900s in there living with the world of mysterious nafish it's one thing when you see a young boy in 2024 who's in a classroom in Brooklyn saying hey I have to fill in here's a Jew it's not going to get comfortable but I want to put on fill in and that one boy calls another boy another boy another boy another boy it's an amazing thing your one decision to stand for Hashem take a highest is not only impacting the person that you're helping or the mitzer that you're doing it's impacting everyone around you speaking about impacting I have with me um a good friend of me personally of the show of this organization or ryoni zakotinski's with us I should be here Charlie he is the director of Brook of project inspires at Brooklyn branch and somebody who spends his life inspiring teaching educating other people Rabbi it is such an honor to have you on the show great to see you Charlie and uh it's a pleasure to be here um okay say it's another year but hopefully we're moving forward and we're getting closer to the mashiach getting closer to Gula absolutely and uh who do you have with you you have a guess that you can I have a special guest with me I'd like to introduce him I will tell you a little bit about Brooklyn project Inspire that is so many stories so many stories of people that have been inspired have grown have taken responsibility have taken leadership roles have changed their lives changed their family lives and one of those individuals my very dear friends and I call him I did nepesh my partner my partner helps me so much olexievsky and Oleg is an individual who never ever says no and anytime I I say to him listen oh look we have to have a program we're bringing out the guys how can we do it Etc he steps up to the plate and he's just remarkable and I'd like to introduce Alexis oh like welcome to the show thank you very much it's a huge pleasure I'm a big fan get to see you speak very often and uh you know to be this in person this is something very special to me thank you you know we're discussing here um Oleg unioni and uh you know the project inspire you know just some of the audience is you know tuning in for the first time we have a lot of new uh you know new traffic here in in general what does it mean to be the director of project inspired Brooklyn right projects by Brooklyn you know it is a hub of from jewelry we know that but but yet you uncovered something else so let me just uh speak for a moment there's obviously a hub like you said of religion Orthodox from people who live where they're in Borough Park Flatbush Midwood Mill Basin they live in Marine Park however if you scratch the surface a little bit there are so many non-affiliated Jews living in our area and predominantly living in the areas of let's say Brighton Beach Sheepshead Bay Manhattan Beach Flatbush Marine Park Mill Basin Etc that they and I want to say there they could be Israeli they could be American and there is a large large segment of you know Jews who came originally from the Soviet Union and their parents brought them here and what we're really what we're really battling is and I'm being very public about it and open about is that there's a percentage of them that have chosen to send their children you have children chosen to send the children to Yeshiva Etc however and given the Jewish Education but there's a large segment of these individuals who've decided no I want my kid to have a public school education a private school education and the question is what's going to happen to that next generation and that's what we're dealing with that's what Oleg and I deal with on a constant basis and that's a project inspiring it's funny is what what it's almost the same story from last generation it's the same story in every generation right right individuals it's the same cycle of what took place in Memphis when from not to Greenville opened up his day school like it's every generation you've got the story of do you give your kids the education to allow them to continue on you know yeah oh like I mean tell us your your involvement your story is sort of like you know where where you got involved in furthering your connection to Yiddish kite and more importantly spreading that to people that you meet um so my background is I came to to the country in 96 and then I went to a school called Sinai Academy uh well I came in H2 I came went to school called sign Academy and you know it gives you that initial sort of you know startup knowledge that you need to progress then I went on to college and I became investment banker then for the next you know 15 years of my life I basically spent it in the office day in day out you know never leaving uh one of the things that I sort of picked up on the way is as my wife and I were becoming more and more religious and we're spending a lot more time in the community we were sort of secluded by who we are right it's it's very interesting that you know once you become religious and you you have slightly different of a descent versus anybody else in your show you feel like you're completely different poll work and um when I was introduced to project inspire all of a sudden I saw something else something completely different right where not only is it all welcoming all very friendly and everything is done to incorporate everybody in and one of the most beautiful things is that not does it only work for the people who are already religious but also works even better for the people who have no religion in their lives at all right so majority of the people who are we connected who we deal with who we constantly try to have Outreach with is you know their professionals they're very comfortable with their lives but they're okay living the way they are they are missing one big thing they're missing God in their lives and a lot of them try to have it but they have it on their own level but what project Inspire does is it shows them the way to connect to Garden at the same time feel totally okay with it not feel like somebody's pushing it over you not somebody's hammering on your head but they making this completely available and in the friendliest way possible you know you know like as he's saying it you know I'm thinking especially you know from the only standpoint is that you know how much has to do with the fact that it's coming from an angle of peer-to-peer a friend to friend as opposed to you know I gotta listen to this Rabbi now where I have to listen to this you know trained person who has his speech to give me how much is due to that interaction I think it's 100 right because you speak to anybody who ever went on the trip Whoever has been associated with project Inspire and you asked him about the only and they talk about hearing like a best friend right usually you never refer to whatever as your best friend at least you know in my background and most people who come from a less of a connection you know they're not they're not referring to the rabbi is the guy who bores me on Yom Kippur yeah and the guy who runs out you and I'm not doing it not your best friend exactly but in here like you you would be it would be having drinks for the friend and then all of a sudden oh you know I need to call you on it why I I need to come back to him on something talk about a little bit about taking responsibility to encourage other Jews to get involved um absolutely so the way I got involved with project Inspire I went on an Israeli trip and you know this this is something that is you know changes your mind changes you you changes everything on it but there's one thing that when you leave this trip they ask you what what do you want to take with yourself and when you only asked me that question I I said that you know what I was very lucky to see this but how many more people who are not so lucky to be exposed to this so let me try to sort of bring other people on board and to have them to have that type of exposure so it started with you know basically trying to speak to your friends friends that you know like you know acquaintances or whatever else ask them you know what are you doing in two months from now right and you try to bring them on on a trip and then before that you say hey how about this you know what Friday night just come over just few drinks you don't have to do anything I it doesn't matter to me how you get to my house just get to my house and then whatever we'll figure out afterwards and slowly but surely it starts evolving and evolving and evolving and then once you get them on the trip all of a sudden they bring their own friends and before they bring their own friends they start asking a question you know I see you put on Film on the trip how do I go about getting one okay we will help you get one great how do I go about praying because they have never been exposed to prayer right what you know how do you say smart like what are the blessings and these questions constantly keep on coming up and some of the funny stories that we had was during covert time where one of our guys who went with us on the trip he ended up getting it filled right afterwards uh well not right afterwards like few months later and there was covered time and you're not allowed to go from one house to another and so he calls me up he's like how do I put on a feeling I'm like okay let's get this one going and then on the zoom as um you know I'm trying to tell him okay this is how you wrap it and he keeps on putting his hand against the camera and like I can't see it you know move back okay stop right there this is perfect okay good now on your head and fine and then you see him a year after everything sort of you know came down and he comes over to you and you understand he's putting on the talent and you're like well this is slightly over he's like this is what you told me to do I'm like okay let me just correct it in person the camera was uh yeah you know but yeah you only if I if I could just inject it for you know old lady is describing not only you as a person who you know is knowledgeable has years and years of experience in this but it's also become best friends with this community in Brooklyn what does it mean to you to have someone like Oleg who comes back from a trip and says to himself you know I'm gonna answer the call I'm gonna answer the call because you only can't do this himself I have to get involved I have to be a leader I have to be his partner and again and get you know so many more people involved oh I'm blessed with the tap Partners like this I mean I just want to say there's not enough if if every person would take a Christ responsibility like olexievsky and the many other guys who have stepped up to the plate and they become the leaders that's the biggest blessing the biggest Knockouts that I could have and the organization could have because that's the the message of the organization that they to build a team to build a a a a a a a group of responsible we all could give up you know an olive Teach an olive you know bathe teacher bass and I speak to everybody out there who's listening to the show you have an Accra is a responsibility you've been giving Hashem is going to mon you at the end of your life and saying you knew this guy he's living next door your cousin your relative your co-worker what did you do to bring him closer you have to be a leader and step up to the plate then thank you really is really done oh like do you try to reach out to people that they should become the leaders as well and pass on the message that you received well absolutely I mean I think the only statement of you know you know an Isle of teaching Olive it's it's something very special to me because I see it with my own eyes where the guys who you literally Teach an olive all of a sudden you see them sitting somewhere else and they teaching that out to somebody else so that you know one thing is saying it and second thing is seeing it when you want is and this is remarkable right um we were at an event you know just want to close up here but we had an event the other night you know but Ralph herskis has it he said something which I thought was so he said you know I've been I I do a lot with students and I and I watch growth and I watch students you know take this on take that on but to watch married men who are professionals whose kids are now going to Yeshiva and and whose families are now taking issues it's really well and a lot of those dude you only the credit your credit but also there's so many from people in Brooklyn who have stepped up and said I want to join where you're whenever you're doing Yoni I want to do it twice you know and and therefore the therefore the old legs of the world able to step up and you know that that versus really you know turned into such something so special right thank you you know amazing um Charlie I I think this is you know a little bit in line with what we're discussing because you know only describes answering the call of the only after a trip to Israel we won't get the opportunity to answer calls the question is you know what do we you know and do we take the deal when the deal comes you know I know for sure that's exactly right when we're seeing the same theme play out in each of these interviews um the the opportunity in order for us to see what's in front of us and take what's in front of us to use it to the best way for Hashem and then not to worry about what's going to happen next and how it works out and you're seeing it here learn a little bit teach whoever you can teach take it to the next level Etc and I think that's something that's amazing our our final guest is a incredible story as well his name is from Friedman he's influenced Solomon and he also he authored this book called living kirish Hashem a guy to Mitzvah and mission of kirish Hashem that was published by art school masora and the Hebrew safer which is a comprehensive work on the hashkafas of kirish Hashem all right Friedman has made spreading kids Hashem awareness his life goal and he's often he's authored a bi-weekly column for several years and developed an extensive living kirish Hashem curriculum this is an incredible guest um and uh I think he's on Zoom right let's let's bring in every Freeman yeah Freeman are you with us yes it's supposed to be here thank you and you're you're currently in currently in Baltimore Baltimore I heard of it is that near London on the LL map it's South it's South it's in between New York and Florida that's right that's all yeah it's close to Florida how are you Robbie Friedman thank you thank you for joining us wow thank you Rabbi tell us about how you get started with this give us the the the quick version of how you ended up where you are with kidish Hashem well it started 25 years ago really in Lakewood BMG and it started from a series of schmoozin that revmont Cecil Salomon gave and he said it was really one piece but he gave a series on it which really it blew my mind I went to the mainstream yeshivas and somehow I missed this he said over that says the main purpose by Akash baraku gave us all of tiramisus that's the tacos of everything and really it blew my mind somehow I missed I know mitzvah but to understand as the purpose of all Mitzvahs all mistress teller are tools in being a college student she might somehow I missed it and that's where it really where it started amazing and and what had what have you seen since then how when you're teaching this curriculum to other people what is the impact that because it's incredible just to hear it what is the impact that you are watching it have on what we'd call regular people so I I studied it for for a number of years because it just was my mind-boggling the whole concept and then I was a revenue Shiva in Denver for 13 years and I taught her to the bathroom and I saw the the bahram how it it made a paradigm shift it was it was it was life-changing they there's a certain Shameless a certain connection between between that came about that Sam then we need to take it outside of Seoul outside the base magic wherever we go it's it's relevant it's relevant in the business world it's relevant when we're shopping when we're driving the way we dress The Way We Walk the way we talk every interaction and I saw this this sense of responsibility and the sense of mission of purpose in in every every poker every every simple Jew that they that their leaders were Allah and that impact was was remarkable and and I started hearing it from others who learned through the marmakaimus went through the sources and really had this little mindset shift that it's about people that's what we're all doing right yeah you know Robbie Friedman we're we're listening to this I know I know I know and saw the book um but as an organization you're stepping up to do something you know that's big and it's going to hopefully have you know widespread messaging and people are going to get involved you know did you ever think to yourself or you know like many you know who we've interviewed today like you know can I really do this should I really do this you know what gives me the the confidence to stand up and say I'm gonna do this because I'm gonna pass this message along and I'm Gonna Change Claudius throw through it um I I didn't I didn't feel like I had it in me to to be a leader to to to start our organization I tried to pass it on to a bunch of different organizations over the years everyone's being a kind of changed mine in different ways but to create this mission statement for Claudia Israel who could do this let's get it out there then then I went to kedolam maybe maybe maybe bigger people will take you know talented more talented people more charismatic people will take it and run with it and and everyone was helpful everyone was very very helpful but people told me straga you're gonna have to you're gonna have to just if you have the passion you got to do it you just gotta do it and I saw that there was there was such a need because you know I saw it for myself that it changed my life and I saw that that there are many that that are not seeing the bigger picture they're not seeing the goal where where are we all headed and we're sometimes getting lost in that Forest right amongst the trees and so that's what really motivated me and then I saw the the impact of it that when this is really ingrained how simple people and with doing Simple Things changed the people around them changed the communities around them I'll tell you one one example in utrement Montreal who was very concerned about the the conflict in the neighborhood between the growing Jewish community and the and the non-jews and he was very concerned about it and he was reading ankitis Hashem he was learning the topic and it made a tremendous difference for him and he realized that he could do simple things he could start communicating with his neighbors just he would put out of Flyers to his neighbors letting them know that what what's going on on the streets the bonfire what's happening when is it going to start when it's going to when it's going to end what are the festivities about and and the response that he got was remarkable since the neighbors were still taken by it these are there's our first time hearing and our first time feeling respected and hearing about your culture and and they actually the the non-jews started their own blog to help this is and create a mutual respect and just just communicating about what's happening on sukkas what's Happening Pisa what's all the Huts about it doesn't look so nice for the community the zoning and the passing and so on and so forth and the simple good-hearted yid I made a tremendous impact on this growing explosive Jewish community and it's and every single person could do that in their backyard it's very very so simple amazing amazing and I'm seeing here living condition hashem.org I'm encouraging all of everyone who whether you heard about this before did not hear about before join the living Kingdom shashem organization slash movement get involved living Killers hashem.org Freeman thank you so much and both of them I don't know if you're up to uh you know Congress cake and orange juice yet but thank you very much for joining us on this Tish above them for being an inspiration I got to give you new stuff carbs man thanks too much thank you very much for the opportunity sure thank you Rabbi and continue being a kidish Hashem to all of us and we should be social to learn from what you're doing this is it I mean another Tish above hopefully this will be the last um and tell me just a second of of what you took from this whole show you know I I think that that uh what I took most from the show was really way in the beginning of this it feels like five hours ago oh and on one hand it also feels like 20 minutes ago you know he said that from the standpoint of not the film which if you've seen it you know the extra mile the projectinspire.com it was he differentiated between treating somebody you know like a brother and a sister and as a brother and a sister I'm like when it comes to like a brother and sister there's been involved and I think that ultimately what drives people to make a difference not only in their their own connection to other Jews but in their obviously through overall there has to be you know that's something we have to work on making them we're going from like a brother to as a brother and a sister um and as a child and someone you have responsibility for and I think that's what this really this really showed in that people stepping up doing things not knowing how they were going to do it or how it was going to happen and reaping the fruits after it all I totally agree and thank you for an incredible show and I guess just to wrap up I mean at first I want to thank everybody Sampson um an individual who exemplifies this whole so much of project Inspire is from the vision of this individual and Robert Rabbi has always been um leading this and and someone who we can look to as an example of someone who thinks step people like brothers and not not just like a brother um I guess I want to end with this the following thought if I can um you know there's a great series and I'll read it in Hebrew and I'll translate it when this will end this whole show had one theme to it and I hope that throughout the whole show that theme was clear which is the theme of acharyas you can't until you do if you feel like you can't you could be right because the way Hashem works it is you don't ask if I can or I can you ask if I should and if you do then you get the strength you didn't have earlier if not since fee says the following I'll read it in Hebrew and I'll translate when this I'll end it permeates the innerness of the man and the woman every part of your being every part of who me and you are is a Christ you can't step up and sell shoelaces until you need to sell shoelaces you can't find in your heart to build schools until you have to so you have to give the money till you move to Memphis all the stores we're talking about are regular people that were put in great scenarios and the scenarios made them great Ness if you take a Christ on you become a higher person royalty Jewish royalty is not measured by status or wealth or popularity choose royalty is measured by acharyas the princes and the princesses of our people get on the floor with Claudia Israel teach help give they're presented with challenges and they look at that challenge and say if Hashem brought me to it Hashem will bring me through it and if me and you this year can take on five percent more cries in our lives for the Jewish people can you imagine what are people going to look like maybe just maybe this Tish above by becoming people that carry vashem's light by taking a Christ or bringing more light into the world we can do our part to dispel the darkness so that next to shabbat we can be doing this show but the backdrop of the base of English may be built in our days