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Rabbi Binyamin Yuhanan - Parenting Part 3
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good evening today we're standing
we're continuing our class about
parenting using this book again for
those
who are newcomers spare the child
uh
and we continue our discussion about
encouraging children to do mitzvot and
we
gave an example when challenges
before in front of children are great
the encouragement has to
increase as well and we gave an example
of
a boy who had very difficult time
praying
and his father was giving up but then
rav gave him advice that to check
what is the surrounding and he found out
that there were boys in the
synagogue who were making fun of anyone
who was praying
seriously and even though the father
following advice of the rav
encouraged the boy and praised him it
was not enough
and the rav of the shul
designed an event at which
he spoke to the boys who were doing
trouble and
pointed out the greatness of this
young boy who is trying to pray and
from then on it it it
got better because the boy felt that it
is worth it
even though the challenges are so great
but the
praise and the attention that he got
made it worth his while
so we
not only have to make demands of our
children but we also have to
see are they capable of
delivering if we ask something from our
child that is
impossible whether physically or
emotionally socially
then we are putting a stumbling block in
front of our
child they will not be able to do what
we are asking because the challenge is
too great
because of peer pressure or again other
other
reasons and we are damaging
our child of course you have to
find that balance because if you don't
demand
anything or you demand very little
the child will not develop his or her
muscles
the muscles of hard-working the muscles
of
resisting the the the pressures from
society
but if you demand too much
that carries another
issue now
okay we are continuing and we are
on page
16 of um
of the book and
after telling us this story and how
hashem it helped to increase the reward
in the form of encouragement to the sun
he continues this anecdote demonstrates
the idea of finding the way to
compensate the child in proportion
to the difficulty he faces the more
difficult it is the greater measures we
must take
to counter it
a confused now a new example
a confused father consulted
with an educator with a mechanic about
the following
for months i've been dedicating an
hour a day to learn with my son
as we mentioned the in the last class
very often
the area in which parents
put in the most effort that's the area
that the child does
the most poor in why
because if the parent does not have the
proper
method then the more they push the child
the more the child will resist
if parents have the proper method then
of course the more effort you put in
the better it's going to get but if
shalom your method
is not good then it's better
not to do anything than to use
improper technique and such parents who
recognize that yes this
is an important area
prayer learning doing mitzvot saying
blessings
so they put pressure on the child
but they do it in the wrong way so the
child hates it he resists it
and that's the area where the child
fails
in the most and the parent asks how's it
possible
i dedicated so much time and effort
to this area so this
father is the same story he
spent one hour every day learning with
his son
did this help and he continued
his story this involves a lot of
sacrifice and inconvenience on my part
but i keep it up because i realize how
important
it is so i was shocked
to hear recently in a roundabout way
that my son
hates learning with me
i try to talk to him about it but i
couldn't get
anything clear out of him my sense is
that he himself doesn't exactly
understand
why he feels that way
the rabbi asked the father to describe
the learning session
the father was surprised by the question
what's there to describe
i sit at one side of the table my son
sits at
the other side of the table he reads and
explains the gemara
that they learned that day in school i
listen
make sure he has it right and correct
him when he doesn't
at the end i asked him a few questions
on the material and that's that
do you enjoy it the rabbi
asked the father said enjoy
what's nature to enjoy i'm obvious i'm
obviously not learning with him at my
level besides
my time is very tight and the whole
thing is not very convenient for me
so why do you expect your son to enjoy
put yourself in his place imagine that
you're doing something that you find
enjoyable and important like playing
outside
and someone pulls you away from it
right in the middle and make sure it
makes you sit down with an
impatient tense irritable person
and in who intimidates you
he wants to test you on everything you
learn that day
and scrutinizes and critiques everything
you say
the father said but i have to help him
get ahead in his learning
well your current approach
is not only failing to get him ahead
it is actually going to prevent his
progress
you are causing your child to view
gamora as
stressful and unpleasant experience
do you want him to start hating gamora
why should he hate gemara even if you're
right
it's i who am causing the problem not
the gamora and he knows it
he isn't stupid the rabbi answered
the question is not what he knows but
what he feels
the fact is that he feels stress and
discomfort when he learns with you
even if he understands that it is you
and not
the gemora it makes no difference
if when he sits down to learn gamora by
himself it invokes
unpleasant memories this will in turn
cause
negative feelings this again reminds us
of the story that i told you last class
about my rebbe who could not pray
whenever he would pick up a sidor he
would remember how his parents
pushed him to pray and how they were on
top of him
and how they punished him if he didn't
pray so he couldn't pray anymore
he wasn't just upset at his parents
he also couldn't pray
so the same thing here not only
the child will hate
the the study session with his father
but he will also have a negative feeling
towards
gamora because that is what they were
doing
when they were together and whenever he
will open
gamora he will remember his father
and his mood will go down and he will be
depressed and scared
and irritated maybe
someone is going to test me now maybe
someone is going to be upset at me maybe
what i'm saying is not 100 right
so he will not be able to
sit and enjoy while he's learning
because the memories of his father are
going to be
bothering him now returning to page
18.
that will sabotage his learning even if
he is
able to understand the reason for it he
understands that it's not gamora's fault
just like unfortunately many children
do what we call go of the deader they
live
the religious way of life why do they do
it
every case is different but often
when parents don't give them a pleasant
feeling about being jewish there is
stress in the house there is
stress in their relationship and
whenever they
are supposed to do a mitzvah or whenever
they are doing a mitzvah there is
constant criticism parents are always
looking
to correct and the parents uh
mean well i want my son i want my
daughter to be at sadiq to be at sadeket
i want them to be righteous i want them
to be great
i don't want them to be to make mistakes
that i made when i was young
so we try to encourage our children to
be good
but in turn what our children feel is
that
they're never good enough their parents
don't like it and
who is at fault religion
because if i didn't have to say birkat
amazon i would be a good person
so birkat amazon according to my parents
causes me to be a bad person
my inability to do well in the gamora
class
or in the synagogue or
in any area of judaism
reflects badly on me and therefore i
have a negative association with it
so just as
the the doctors have a rule
do no harm before you heal a patient
make sure you don't make his situation
worse
and uh many of us saw an example of that
yesterday when unfortunately we there
was a stabbing
and we saw a soldier with a knife in his
back and he was sitting and no one was
taking the knife out
and beca that's because they were
following this rule even if there is a
knife in
in one's back don't take it
out because you might make it worse
it's better to stay with a knife in your
back
instead of hurting the person
even more so too if our children
are already four and five and six
and seven and they still forget to make
a blessing on food
and they still don't say a shariat and
they're still not
uh behaving with derek edits
first we have to find out how to address
it
if we don't know how it's better to
leave it alone don't say
anything because there is great danger
that you will make it worse
now
he continues the child probably will not
even remember that it was
you who who caused those feelings
in most cases is the feeling that
surfaces
not the reason and causes of those
feelings
and it's very hard to differentiate and
that is why
many people as i explained
go of the data nowadays or they
stop being religious after the holocaust
because the germans mistreated me
because i'm a jew therefore being jewish
has a negative connotation negative
feeling and even though it's the
german's fault
it's the nazi's imam
fault not judaism's fault
but because the nazis said we're killing
you
because you are jewish
many jews felt
a bad emotion bad feeling towards
judaism
and they couldn't be jewish anymore they
had to hide they had to run away
now he continues on page 18. in this
case two
motivating the child to want to learn
would have to include being aware of the
difficulty that the learning
poses for the child not only
say you have to do it why don't you do
it
but put yourself in your child's shoes
think about the difficulties he is going
through
the need to interrupt his play
in order to engage in learning which he
finds boring
and finding the way to counter it what
can you give to the child
that will make it worth his while to
stop
playing and start learning
and this is called shillolishma doing
something
not for the right reason but our sages
say
that every beginning
okay
so
we have to find a way that a child
should want to
do the right thing even if it's for
wrong reason because our sages say
that every beginning should have
a shalom aspect to it every beginning
should have a reward that
the the the person will say even though
i should be doing it for the sake of
hashem for the sake of torah for the
sake of
me earning gulamaba but it's far away i
don't feel the connection to it
so i will instead encourage myself by
telling myself it's worth it for me
because
i will earn money or because i will
get um
praise or because i will get pleasure in
the form of a candy
or or ice cream or trip
and as the person grows in his um
intellect maturity connection to hashem
he will slowly start doing things even
though
there is no reward even though nobody is
watching
nobody's going to praise him even though
he's not getting paid
even though there is no
social social pressure
for example
so it's important to start
at the young age by rewarding our
children
um with material
um benefit by
giving them praise after
they do an action every time we notice
our children do something good we have
to praise them so that in their mind
next time they're going to say oh i
liked it
when my father or my mother
praised me i enjoyed it so let me do it
again
so that they praise me or we have to
give them points or we have to
give them a candy or after they finish
learning
give them a snack but again
praise is the best and most powerful
um element
there is no um age that you
stop rewarding the child
it depends on their maturity but the
good
thing is that eventually you will notice
that the child
does things on his own he
likes to go to synagogue he likes to go
to yeshiva he has a havruta he talks
about it
he even calls him and learns on the
phone
he makes blessings on his own he
remembers to
say birkat amazon or shema he
comes back and says that
he forgot to
make a blessing and you will be
proud of your child and at that point
you will
understand that he doesn't need
um the material reward as much
now let's continue
we are in the middle of page 18.
since the difficulty
is not as drastic and unusual
the compensation would not have to be
as extraordinary if it's a simple
thing the compensation is small
praise should always be the
encouragement
happiness on the other hand in the
previous case the difficulty was
the prayer itself was not the prayer
itself
but the specific problem in the
surrounding circumstances the child
was not against prayer he understood it
he wanted it
but the children who made fun of him
made it difficult in this case the
compensation
had to counter the difficulty inherent
in the learning
itself in this case
it was the the learning that the child
didn't want to do because
he had to drop his playing
and he had to sit in front of his
not so
pleasant father
in such cases which are of course much
more common
a one-time compensation would not be
enough
the father would have to provide an
ongoing form
of compensation
now i'm reading note 7 the
ongoing compensation
would not have to be as dramatic
dramatic as a one-time compensation
needed to overcome an extraordinary
difficulty as in the previous case
which means you don't have to make a
great party and invite
the whole synagogue to it like the rabbi
did in
the previous case but in this case
it is the consistency
of the compensation that provides the
desired effect
rather than the intensity he calls it
quantity over quality small
increments over a period of time
instead of a large dose of inspiration
at once
now what did the rabbi advise the father
to do in this case whether
the father was demanding perfection in
learning from his
son and the son didn't want to learn
with his father
the mechanic advised the father to
replace the critical and
tense atmosphere with a warm
and friendly one
he advised him to sit next to his son
rather than opposite him to listen to
him
affectionately with a smile rather than
critically to take special notice
of any points that the boy does explain
well
and to enthusiastically express how much
he enjoys it
and how happy it makes him
the father was concerned that such an
approach would compromise
his son's learning level
but he came to understand that if the
boy remembers the learning
as a warm and pleasant time spent with
his father
the educational benefit
will well outweigh any possible decline
in terms of the actual studies
that's what we have to remember that
it's not that
right now the child must do the job well
but rather as we said the word
means inauguration starting it out
well we
are concerned that the child should like
it
and should pursue it himself and as such
the child doesn't have to
perform well right now the child
must have a good feeling right now
and that good feeling will encourage him
to continue and to do more and more
now note 8 on page 19
states
and doing well in studies are not
synonymous
teaching the child to learn and for the
child to actually
learning well is not the same thing
means causing the child to connect
to learning internally not necessarily
ensuring that he knows the material
he's currently learning
well so
again you have to keep in mind that
when the child is in the first second
third fourth fifth sixth seventh and
even eighth grade
the emphasis is not on
high achievement
because it is in the later years
in high school and in bid midrash
that the child learns majority of his
knowledge
and understands because until high
school the child's
brain is not mature enough to understand
it deeply
he may remember information but still
late in life he will have to review it
and learn it more deep
just because he learned humas or gamara
in elementary school doesn't mean that
he'll become great
but what does matter
in elementary school is the
the attitude that the child develops
towards
learning so if the child is not
so successful in in learning in
elementary school
it's okay focus on
his love of yeshiva
his love of his rebellion of his
teachers
his love for knowledge in general
and the when he
matures grows up his uh brain develops
he will still have the love for learning
and then he will apply the tool that he
has
to actually sitting down and learning
but if
shalom we do the opposite we force the
child to memorize
to study to sit still
to be quiet to behave in class
and we prevent him from playing outside
then they will develop negative feeling
towards learning and even though during
the elementary school
we force them to memorize a lot to read
a lot
to do a lot of homework exercises
when he goes into high school or ben
midrash
and he will be more independent he'll
say i don't
want it i don't like it now that i don't
have anyone on top of my head
telling me what to do i'm not doing it i
don't want it
and so we exchange
the temporary gain for long term benefit
hashable
about two months later the father called
to express his gratitude
not only do i now enjoy
learning with my son he said
my son is actually making significant
progress in his learning
his rebbe is thrilled with him
the way i see it it's a miracle
of course there was no miracle all that
happened was that the father who had
first been focused only on
control which
we mentioned briefly and we will
speak more more about means
focusing on the right here and right now
the performance of a command or
proper performance over mitzvah right
now
that's control and if i can force my
child to do it i may feel good yes
my child did it
but we see that it doesn't work
it's only the very initial stage where
you
want to start the engine
you apply more force but then
the education has to kick in
so the father instead of using the
control
way of uh making his child learn
now began engaging in
as well it was the hinuk
effort the measures taken to cause the
boy to enjoy
the learning experience that brought
about
this change we will elaborate on this
point
as we move along and now we turn to page
20 chapter 2 developing the points
um
just to summarize again we see
that we should not panic if a teacher
calls and says or your son or your
daughter are not doing so well in school
you should tell yourself okay they're
still young
maybe they're not yet mature maybe their
brain is not yet developed
it's okay i will
watch my child i will help them i will
try to do a little bit homework with
them
but mainly i will
encourage my child i will praise them
i will tell them that i believe in them
i trust them
they can do it and i will point out
whenever they made a smart decision i
will tell them you're smart
look you figured it out whenever they
do something that required thinking
i will tell them oh you thought about it
well
i see you use your brain well
you have good safety
you're smart
and i will praise them whenever i see
their reading even for a few minutes
even when they're doing a little bit
homework i will praise them
if it just happened so that they
got a good mark on one of the tests even
a minor test
i will emphasize and say yes you can do
it you're smart
and don't don't um
make the mistake of taking the teachers
or the rabbi's words seriously and start
pushing your child
oh what's going to be with you who's
going to marry you
you're not going to get a job you're
going to fail
shalom we should never say such words to
our child
okay
and the one more point
to to uh
review is that we are not
thinking about um immediate results
but rather we're interested in long-term
behavior of the child recording stopped
now recording in progress okay
good so let's continue
chapter two developing the points having
illustrated
the idea in practical terms we now move
on to define the two basic concepts of
our discussion
and control more precisely
again is education proper
education something that will cause the
child
to want to do
voluntarily what we want them to do
and control is when we focus
on immediate results when we want the
child to do something
right now and sometimes it is necessary
ironically it is the more familiar term
which needs to be well explained
even though in the jewish world the word
khinuk
is very often used
education but
we may misinterpret it
in this work the the term is used
differently from the way
people generally use it the word
is commonly used as a general term for
anything related to
parenting child rearing from
expressing affection to criticizing
which means everything is called hinuk
commonly by people from teaching
to lecturing from punishment to reward
from discipline to encouragement however
the author the author of this book would
like to
use the term differently
the term hinukh here is used only in its
narrowest and most precise
sense based on that definition the term
includes only measures that contribute
to the child's development over the long
term
means initiation the beginning of a
long-term
reality that is how rasheed the
commentator
explains the word
in the passoog he says
it is a person's or
objects initial entry into a profession
that he will remain in as
in train the youth
so that even in the old age
he will
uh not depart from the correct path
now we're on page 21 take for example a
family separated we're celebrating
he is trying to explain to us though the
term hinuk what is hanukkah
khalokatabad is when the
couple starts their life in the new
house
they make a celebration
and they
learn torah we say prayers
say blessings in order to start the life
in this house with the mitzvah
so when we celebrate
we're not celebrating the fact that we
are using house now
that right now we are in a new house and
we're happy
but rather we're celebrating the fact
that we are beginning
our usage of this home
we're celebrating that we moved in and
we have
a happy long life in this
house ahead of us
the main reason for celebration is the
expectation that they will continue to
use this home far
into the future long after the
celebration
ends
similarly of a child
is something that marks the beginning of
a pattern of good behavior
which can be expected to continue far
into the future
long after the hinuka has finished and
the
child is under his own jurisdiction
this brings us back to the conclusion we
reached in the previous chapter that
positive motivation is an act of
force is not an act of renewal
if a child prays because he feels
motivated
to do so it gives him a sense of
fulfillment because he he's doing it
by his own choice
when that is the case we can assume that
this prayer
is the beginning of a long-term reality
we can expect that the child will
continue praying happily aft
even after he leaves his parents
jurisdiction
however when the child prays only
because he is forced to
or because he is scared of his father it
is not the beginning of a long-term
pattern
but rather the child is only doing it
now
there is no reason to assume that the
child will continue to pray once his
father can no longer force him to do so
force only affects the here
and now it does not create
permanence
and we have to remember that hashem
created people
as free beings hashem did not
force us by putting a hammer on top of
our head and if we
desecrate shabbat or if we look at the
wrong thing or think
a wrong thing or say the hammer will
come down
and and smash us
because then we would be forced
and there is no point in creating such a
world
it says that hashem created the world
with midad hadin
with the attribute of strict justice
and he saw that it will not endure
it's not worth it to keep such a world
around
if people will be forced and
otherwise they will be punished and
hashem
added and middata
gave people freedom to choose because
if there
is no punishment in sight there will
certainly be reward and punishment at
the end
but hashem is patient and there is no
punishment right away
hashem hopes that even if we make a
mistake
we will mature and we will regret it and
we will fix our
ways he does not force us
he does not exercise open control
he does control everything and he can
guide us so that
we are encouraged to choose right
but he does it in an educational way
no threats no fear
because if we are forced
it's not worth much just like
a robot just like an animal that you
um hit and it does what you want
we don't praise the robot we don't
praise the computer and we don't praise
the animal
it's only the human being who
voluntarily chooses to do good
and we have to remember that if we want
our children to be great
we have to allow them to make
good choices voluntarily we cannot
always be on top of them
control them make sure they do
everything
correctly because even though
temporarily yes
they will achieve more than other
children
but in the long term they will
fail miserably yes there will be a
students
and they will say all the blessings in
front of you
but once they leave
your control everything will
come off
and this is uh also the reason why
judaism is not a missionary religion
why judaism in judaism we don't force
people to convert we don't force people
to do mitzvot
because it's worthless if i force you
to
do a mitzvah but you really don't want
and your intent is not to do mitzvah
you're just doing because i'm
moving your hand to put on tephylline
then it doesn't count you have to want
to do a mitzvah only then it counts
so we have to remember that
it's not the obedience that we are
looking for
right now but rather it's the attitude
that the child
is developing that we want to improve
okay now we continue
on the bottom of page 21 so
focuses on the future it is something
that we
do now to influence the child's behavior
now and into the future whereas
control focuses on the
here and now it is something
that we do to influence the child's
behavior only in the present
without a lasting effect
control includes influencing a child's
behavior by for example
threatening to punish exerting authority
or even offering prizes
to a certain extent offering prize that
the child can't say no to
is a form of control
if we do it in a smart way it will learn
how to do it
then it will move from control to
education if we make sure that the price
is not only a payment but rather it's
it's
presented in a way that gives a good
feeling to the child because that good
feeling will stay with him
in the future even if you don't offer
the price
next time but still the activity
will remind him of the good feeling he
once had
so prizes can fall in the category of
control but if done properly they can
fall in a category of
proper education these measures may
influence the child's behavior in the
present
but not in the long term once the child
is on his own
he will not have to worry about
punishment
he will not be subject to the same
authority figures
and will not anticipate a prize for good
behavior
once there is no prize nothing is
forcing him
there will be no reason for him to
decide to continue the behavior that was
forced
on or squeezed out of him
um and one
um illustration
how prizes are not
uh the best way of encouraging the child
is very often as the child grows
his ability to earn money grows as well
so even the beginning a few cents
half a dollar a quarter will encourage a
child because
he knows oh i can buy a snack
i can get something with this money and
it excites him
when he will reach an age where he can
get a job for a neighbor and the
neighbor will give him five dollars
then all your prizes are going to be
not important in his eyes why should i
do mitzvot why should i pray
why should i learn for mere quarters
or uh
very little of money when i can get a
job by the neighbor
and i will be able to get
right away a large sum of money
and so too with every price a price has
a limitation and so
we should learn how to use prizes
correctly and how to present them
that it's not a bribe it's not a payment
but encouragement
hashem we will continue next week we're
stopping on page 22.
thank you for listening have a great
[Music]
night