Daf Hashavua - Nedarim 6a

okay good evening everyone we're continuing in we're learning the said that who said that a NE of would only be effective if you said and you added clearly is going like the like and therefore you need to be clear and add said really yeah the says that will establish the like where does Express his opinion by because we have uh RAB Yehuda and the raban what does GU shall get the raban say sh get even though you don't say it's coming from me even though you don't say that I'm divorcing you with this written document nevertheless it's a good get because I'm sorry that and no you need to say you need to say with this with this you need to say from me because the is going like rud then the says that and argue about so the gar says so let's say that abay holds like the RAB and ra holds like RAB HUD so says no holds could even hold like reud even though normally but by get you need to be explicit you need and therefore it has to be and that's in general but by get there's a factor in and that's where we're up to says will ask a question we're asking on holds that nobody in their right mind would hold everyone holds it's just by there is an opinion of that you need because of you need a but nobody in normally nobody would hold so now all we need to do is prove that there is an opinion I'm sorry all we need to prove is that there's someone who holds behold it on me or behold this on me it's cuz it's a Yad for a carbon because usually people when they say they finish off it's is as a carbon now they're not mock this for K it's just they're creating an iser to themselves so so you're it's a y carbon says the the reason why the Yad Works cuz you didn't just say har or har if you would have said or then we would have had to say well behold this is what but when you say onto me or this is to me that's more that it's a carbon so if he didn't say a not this seems to hold that for to work you need it to be look in the ran the ran is one two three four five six seven eight lines from the bottom the reason why your a is because you said all Li I if you didn't say not even though if you don't say would still be a so we see you need to which the answers will say back the reason why you're because you say Al but if you just say then it doesn't have to be a carbon maybe mean it's he so it's not the that you need a li for it to be you need AE for it to be a Yad if you don't say a it's not even a Yad for a carbon we thought it's definitely a handle for a carbon you just need to say Al for it to be so it's says no if you don't say a lie it might be a y it's not even a y maybe you mean um har who heer or har who did stuck look back in the in the run it's not even it's only if you say but if you don't say Al it might not it could Bea or it could be L carbon so now the gamar has a interesting question says the gamarra the gar says the reason why if you say a it works is because it's a Yad carbon meaning it doesn't say it's a Yad it says it's a Yad carbon meaning we know that you mean to say a carbon it's just not why look in the the is six lines from the botom it says because it's as if to say does the BR say the reason why if you say har who all or har it works doesn't say it's a without the Al it's already indicative of a carbon people who make [Music] neveress if you say Al meaning don't say the reason why you have to say a lie is because otherwise maybe it's not even a Yad don't say AE is needed just to make it a Yad cuz it doesn't say because it's a a y because if it would say because it's a Yad then Allah would be needed just to make it a Yad in the first place but because it says because it's a Yad carbon that means it's already presumed that it's uh reflective of an an attempt to make ITB and it's just needed the all is needed to make it that's a so says no the reason why it's an of a carbon meaning that you're offering it to yourself like a carbon is because you said Al if you didn't say Al they would both be why cuz maybe what you meant to say was that it should be dedicated as a carbon for Hees so the AL is needed not to make it but rather because otherwise it would be user to everyone as a carbon says the four lines to the bottom it's not because since is meaning the is saying really I'll tell you is right and because we're not sure do you mean only to create an for yourself or do you mean to create an is and then it would beer everyone and because an interesting thing the r is saying because we would have to go and what you mean is maybe maybe you mean it's he ask you a question someone says behold this is even though because when you say even though you can't make as looking the even though you're to bring a even someone who's already to bring a or it's nothing so if someone says but if somebody says this should be for my this should be from my if you then your words are stand because then it's uh which implies that if it was not says second line from the if you don't say it's at least why because you're to bring even though you just said and you didn't say but if you're at the very least it's says the gamar it's a it's a t I'll just say that this this go like but you said that always holds except for by because you need didn't you say even ages but we were forced to say in that even would say we'll have to retract and say that according to who holds he would say that says the well once we're retracting an that who hold having will concede that maybe who said before that says and even would agree except for it's it's maybe we'll retract in ra says maybe ra will now be locked into but he would have to say that the hold and in other words ra said before that even the r would say except for well maybe will retract on that says no doesn't retract on that would agree to the that so far only said you don't need person would not divorce his friend's wife but regularly you would need so even though we're retracting what we said who said y he said he could even go like rabud that rabuda only said his din by so now we're retracting on that rabuda didn't only say his din by get he says his din universally that could still maintain even though the only say by okay and we'll pick it up tomorrow on V Papa okay