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So Much Purim (Ep. 274)

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hi this is D rowski and welcome to the PM edition of the rabber alovi show we're in the RAB olowski show every week is porum and I apologize you know I was getting ready and I thought I must have I used to have a couple of outrageous ties I don't know what happened to them so I took a Tai uh for those of you watching in black and white you have no idea and for those of you listening just take my word for it oh in that case if you if you're listening I'm Runing this really funny clown tie I really have to go out and get myself a perm but you know I don't put that much Advanced planning into this show I'm sorry to say so we're going I used to have some wild ties out what happened to them all anyway so uh in fact under the question answerers someone has asked me how many ties do you actually have and uh I never answered that question I was going to bring them out once you know show but uh somebody once asked Seinfeld how many cars do you own because he collects you know classic cars so he pauses and he goes not the amount that someone would say yeah that makes sense so I have a I have a large collection of ties but I guess I I don't have my outrageous ties I don't know what happened to them I have to go out and get them and whether you're watching with our friends of roring time who just had a uh very successful um fundraising event and uh all the speakers were uh given um you know a certain goal to try to be able to raise and uh I passed my goal thanks to the wonderful people out there who listened to this podcast on tan time and had hakar satov to tan time for making it available to them and they donated to help them out so that's uh tremendous to you and and as we say wherever you're watching don't forget to like share subscribe and comment and I've noticed lately that more people have been making a real effort to comment and that's uh that helpful that that pushes our numbers up our numbers are increasing and it's only because of wonderful people like you who uh 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because believe it or not this thing actually I know I make it look so simple I've had guests on the show who just like freeze up like a deer in their headlights because they've watched my show and they figure well how hard could this be just sit on a chair and talk to a camera and they suddenly realize I make it look easy but the fact of the matter is that there's a lot of work that goes into it and uh andash to the people who are supporting the show show by watching by commenting by subscribing by um sending in sponsorships so I we are sponsored by Anonymous hippopotamus I assumed they're going for the rhyme there I don't think this was actually from a hippopotamus we're not crazies we just love your show that's fine that's fine you don't have to be a fanatic you know when they say someone's a sports fan a fan is just short for fanatic you know to be a rowski show fanatic but uh you know know just if a person gets uh gets enjoyment from this or gets benefit from this or even if you don't get benefit from it but you want to see others I've had people who I know who have sponsored and they said listen we don't watch the show but we know there are a lot of people who get from it we want AIC of that that's fine too um yeah so okay now before we talk about PR let's talking about pesak because those of you who have been watching the show know that I have been talking for the longest time that I uh I'm looking to make my own pesak program and uh the big problem is trying to find a location and uh I only want people who want to come to a RAB olowski PES program meaning um there are some very large pesak programs where they even put the emphasis on the on the speakers and on the shum but there a lot of people just go because it's in a nice hotel you know I spoke at a a circus program once and four people showed up because uh you know people weren't coming for the program there was a program but they weren't coming for the program so I'm not looking for that so I'm not looking for a five-star hotel uh that people are like I'll go here anyway in spite of the fact that there a program I want to find a place where people will go because it's the RAB olowski PES program now I have Kar an extremely talented family yeah and um uh you've seen some of my children on the show already uh and um there are others that you have not seen and uh I haven't brought on any of my daughters and considering I have eight of them you know understand so um uh but let's just say that some of them um are professional Zumba teachers some of them are professional aerobics teachers some of them are professional mot I have musicians I have a I really uh quite a talented group of people and so I really wanted I could staff an entire program just with my family which is what I've always wanted to do but I had to try to find a location so I actually checked out a location I know this is so um uh proactive that it's the kind of thing you just don't expect me to do and um my kids basically pushed me into it and I went up north to look at a place outside of Taria um called No kinit used to be known as the Bali they've redone the entire Hotel they've fixed everything up it's nice it's it's not the wal off you know understand uh it's not uh going down to uh one of these resorts in Florida but it's very nice and it's it's right in Taria so it's close enough to be able to do all of the TM up north Etc and especially on a year like this when it's like a lot of kid um it's uh it's very exciting so I went up there and it looks like we're going to go so if anybody wants to come and join me this year I'm not running a program I'm doing a trial run if I'm happy with the way it goes then beder I will take over it's just the right size for me it's a it's 170 rooms which I don't want a bigger Hotel than that um because then I I believe it'll just become unmanageable you know um I did a a pesak program in the melik Sha Hotel I don't even know if it's still exists over 30 years ago in uh in ashalon and it was a small hotel uh 10 and something rooms but I had 98% participation in all of my sh everybody came Saul small he he ran a PES program there he put me and my family up and uh it was everybody participated it was it was so wonderful that's my goal so there's only 170 rooms you know after I bring in my family and whatever staff I don't know how many rooms will be available and assuming like I say that it goes well this year so if anybody's interested on the um uh what do they do this with a Broadway play they they open out of town first you know and give it a trial so if anyone wants to come with me this year I'll give a fuchi or I'll do whatever you know just to uh just if there's anybody who wants to come along it's called the no kinit used to be known as the Bali it's it's in Taria and um as it stands now we're going to be going there and uh if anyone wants to come along we uh will be happy to welcome you and like I say if this actually uh works for me I think we might be able to barring a pandemic or a missile attack from the north barring any unforeseen for circumstances that's uh the plan of what we're going to go and the fact matter is that this year is also a good year to go way because and this is tying into my perm here now right because this is a very unusual PES because ER PES is shabas now ER of PES on a normal year right uh so you know you do bikas Kitz the night before and then you uh doit in the morning um you can eat to a certain period of time I had a neighbor who was making a bris on air of pesak and people said a of pesak goes well you know when it's going to end because at some point everyone's going to stop eating and take all of the food and burn it so you know you have relatively small window in in which to work so when we were in America for PES my son yakob used to have a m that we would go out and find some kits and eats before to be yeah when my house is p my wife doesn't allow any in the house at all yeah you eat it outside in the lobby you know so um but my in-laws they would uh they would go out and buy Bagels in the morning and have Bagels on their kitchen table and then clean it up and do stra for helmets and then you know cover the table that's uh pretty impressive and then you do all your preparations for the Seder right so you make all the things for the Seder plate and you get everything ready you set the table you get everything done well you can't do that this year because since it's on chabas you're gonna have to do Thursday night which is the day before the day before and you'll do your on Friday but then actual P you're going to have to have all the preparations done beforehand and um and then of course you have to eat your sudas and what a challenge that is because you know you're not allowed to eat mat or p and you know you're not allowed to eat after whatever the time is where you are so that only gives you a few hours to eat your two chabas day and it has to beet right so people dve in very early and then they have their first suda and then they um they bench they walk around the block or whatever to make a heick they come back and they wash and have the second suda which is going to be sh all of this is done before whatever time in the morning is so and you have to try to make sure and all theit gets eaten up so that there's none left over because otherwise you have a problem what you do with it you can't burn it so I one year bought petas my wife suggested that we buy petas because uh they don't make so many crumbs as regular kala so I bought petas but through what I can only describe as poor planning I bought these like yeminite petas that are much thicker and I had mostly little kids and I the a person which was uh over the amount that was necessary yeah uh it was the I violated the pizza principle in any event so I was spending the whole time chopping up in the little pieces and flushing them down the toilet that's so bad so now I buy the thinner petas and iin a half a p as a kazas um for each person and I actually buy Kosh P because it's kidney and no is of having it in the house even though we're knowing not to eat it on PES and I find that the p goes much faster with a little Kus on it and um uh that's how we get through it so to be able to do this in your own house is of course kind of tricky because you have to like eat over a plastic and then what do you do with the plastic you have to take it outside and get rid of it because you have humit in there and you can't have KET in your house and um some people eat it on the lobby and sweep it up and then flush it down the toilet whatever it is if you're in a hotel it's not your problem somebody else's problem so that definitely adds to the to the situation but of course and you have to wait until say to be able to first start setting up for the Seder and uh getting all of your preparations done so um not so easy not so easy so it's a good year to go away but of course when comes out that a of PES is shabas that of course is going to affect porm and that's what I wanted to talk about today so this year is a very special perm for everybody in the world except for those of us in youram it means that perm comes out on Friday now it happened that we've had this a lot here in yusim where it comes out on Friday you've had it on Thursday and uh for you it's not such a big deal but when it comes out on Friday so it's as they say in Hebrew big deal yeah because you're not supposed to start a sud after and people were like I have to do my permit sua by 11 o'clock in the morning and It's tricky because you have to get out your sh you have to go to sh you have to hear the Milla and then sit down and have a big sud at 11 o'clock in the morning I remember one year this was happening in America I was by Rabbi Foy sh so it's like Stark and um and he said people are complaining why am I'm supposed to eat a fles at 11:00 in the morning and he looks at his watch and he says what time is it now we're going downstairs to a Kish no one has a problem eating uh you know uh chicken nuggets and chop liver and chant and it's 11 o'clock in the morning so it's okay you can manage it so you eat your suda uh early in the morning and then you have to leave yourself enough time obviously to bench and to um set up uh uh shabas and get all the food set up and the table set and the candles and everything that needs to go into that and that's why one has to be careful when it comes to drinking to you know keep that in mind uh I was in Yeshiva one year I won't mention where when it came out on uh an Arab uh an AR shabis purm and um uh and this guy got wasted and he slept the whole shabas he just he was passed out the whole shavas and he got up and he was so proud of himself that he M she did the ad you know with with all the and I said yeah that was great you missed you missed having myma which is a DI you miss three shabas which is a DI you you missed Kish Friday nights s DEA you uh you um missed daving krishma in the morning yeah I said that was great that was really really well planned out there and um I don't know if he took the mus or not but uh I I put that in the category of mistaken uh priorities the other thing people do and it's a complic at Su how you do it already they do Parisa where they start their Pur suda closer to shabas and then when chabas comes in they cover the table with a cloth s him and then they make kidish and then they continue their perm suda as their shabas sud now how this works Hally there are complicated issues consult your uh poim before you uh you do this on your own as Mr Wizard used to say kids don't try this at home it's a lot more complicated than it might appear at first blush and if you do decide to go that way then you have to you know just be careful now we had like I say Friday programs a lot of times but when you the rest of the world has Friday program we in in Yus not even it's such a strange thing you know when you really live in yush you really only know that shush perm is perm regular perm in is nothing not even margish it if you put on one of these fir radio stations you hear them playing the per perm music and Etc and when we have shushan and perm the rest of the world they don't even think anything of it yeah but we always celebrate shushan purm here in yush the day after where the rest of the world celebrates Pur except on a year like this when you end up with What's called the P three-day purm yeah how does that work well purm comes out on chabas obviously if for the rest of the world it comes out on Friday then the 15th which is shushan PM comes out on purm well you can't read the Milla on chabas because we're someone might carry it in a him so you're not allowed to read it on chabas you can't have your Pera on shabus because um people will uh not understand that it's a perm suda it just looks like a shabas suda it doesn't look like a special suda um you maybe just a quick note on this yeah um when I uh when I was a rebi in Yeshiva so I used to have my talum over and the word more or less went out that this was a good place to be for purm um the the truth is it was a good place to be when I had my bam over one of my first years I had a whole bunch of Seminary girls who called up and asked to come I guess they thought it was going to be a lot of fun the olsky house we ended up with about 40 girls so we set up a whole bunch of tables and me and my wife were just running around serving the the suda the whole time and eventually all the girls just left because it wasn't fun well of course it wasn't fun you all just sat there while we ran around serving you what exactly did you think was going to happen and this Drew uh Drew for me a um a a clear understanding of when the say sometimes when you have too many guests none of the guests get any attention whatsoever so I would have over my shear and it would be very labor dick and other people would drop in and so we would have a purm where there were people just every now and then I would invite over some real people and they were absolutely horrified I said who are these people I said said I don't know you know why are they in your house go I don't know they just came per and after perm ended so we used to do a fun Min that we don't do anymore where all the kids would bring all the shalas that we had gathered together and we'd open each shus and we try to learn you know what was this person thinking you know um you know sometimes people have a theme and they write a whole poem up you know you read the poem and then TR look at each item and see what they're doing so okay you know sometimes we understand the theme was I really don't have time for this sometimes the theme is repackaging sometimes we get a repackage shus they didn't even bother to take the card out that the first person sent them yeah sometimes we get our own shalak Monas back third fourth hand maybe third and fourth hand you know but we'd open up each thing and then we'd separate it you know bottles um canned goods um packaged cookies packaged uh snacks you know um fresh cakes and coules you know everything would go in in different piles now I can't do that because everyone comes in and they eat the sh as soon as it comes in so there's not enough left to bring together but as we were doing it we would notice uh that there was still some people here after the permuda ended not in a state of consciousness people were passed out in our in our home in different locations you know one year we we woke up in the morning and there was still a pregnant nun sleeping on the floor a man pregnant nun I should point out so now today in America that's not so strange but back then it was still considered Quite A Conversation Piece so um so when when we say you have a perm suda on chabas you wouldn't recognize it that's not necessarily true in our house but but but a lot of people perm suda is just a a shabas meal you know my in-laws yeah they would have a they would have a perm suda that was the same thing as any other shabas meal except that they would put out a bottle of wine you know and uh um I don't know my brother-in-law would wear a funny hat or something you know it's like you know a lot of people have that that's what a perm sua is it's just a regular suda you know um always comes with a lot of Aon yeah but in any event um so you can't have you suda so you can't read the Milla and you can't read the suda you can't give out maton because you can't give out money on chabas and besides that the Anum come to Millis Esther to look for the so that's tied into Milla you can't give sh shus is ideally something that is supposed to be eaten at the perm suda and that's why when people distribute like you know these junk food uh shus they're they're cute and everything but you know no one's going to eat it at the Suda I mean you know ideally so I always make uh uh two shalas you only have to do one really but I always do two shalak Monas that are real things that could actually be used at the suda you know one year I made like a roast U sometimes they make a fruit platter yeah something that I know people will actually put out at their suda to uh to try to do it at least have two of those and then I have the uh the usual ones yeah um I'm going to do something I don't usually do because a I'm something of a Crogan as you have known already I uh I'm I'm really not a lot of fun if I was in America i' would be the old man in the shore walking around saying who let the kids into the ksh who left this over here why is this going act why didn't they put back the Sid durum you know like that's it's my my nature I'm not a lot of fun so um um so we used to make shalas when the kids were little before they had any say it and uh we had hosin and um a little bottle of wine or grape juice uh I'd put in an orange or an apple um I'd put in a some sort of a candy bar or something and that was it it was really very simple and whatever the least expensive nice looking bag is that I could find yeah that's uh that's what I uh would do shus um when I was growing up that's what you did you you either baked a humach on you bake some kind of cake and you cut them up into little pieces and you know and put them on a little plate that very often sh was delivered on a paper plate you know there was no cellophane there was no h Easter basket grass you know none of these things happen so at some point when my kids became old enough to have a say to my wife because they knew it was a waste of time to talk to me they insisted on doing a theme and the theme of the Shas had to tie into the costumes and into the suda you know the decorations for the suda you know and they say to me ABA what theme are we going to do I said I have a great theme it's called purm we'll have hin and we'll have wine and this and they would roll their eyes at me as they started doing at a very young age I don't know how my kids figured this out you know Israeli kids they start with with this you know you say things they don't like they do the the shoulder you know not you know and then they move up to the exasperation and I had eight girls you know like lot of exasperation like so they would go after my wife instead because she's a much easier than Mark than I am so then we would have themes and we'd have to do themes and I'm gonna I'm going to um I'm gonna change this year right yeah I'm gonna come out in favor of themes why because um R shinberg had a safer of mishar Shas I feel like I may have mentioned this one year in the past I don't remember if I did or not if I did I'm repeating it it's uh it's it's my option yeah I'm allowed to say something more than once my gosh look at how many people have like so little to say and they've say the same things I remember they said once about somebody he's a man of few words but he uses them over and over and over again so I may have told this already but shinberg had a safer called Mish now in yeshivas they very often would have a minig that people would stay up late uh Thursday night and the whole Yeshiva would stay up and learn and so to um Inspire different type of learning for Thursday night and they would give Refreshments of some type um um usually chant which to my mind doesn't really fit the criteria of Refreshments but anyway um I don't think it refreshes you I think it knocks you out but all right in any event uh they would give you a shot to work on during the night so Mish are the different mishas that he gave you know shinberg would give out to the Yesa to work on so I had the saer many many years ago and one of the questions he asked is you have a to give mat to give sh right maton sh give mat give a gift and uh the question is can I give it as now since after my T singer video which is now as it happens my number one video on YouTube how they finally beat out the uh the Waterberry boys I'm sorry of you Waterberry fans out there better start clicking but um beat it out uh surprisingly I've picked up a um uh more of a non-jewish audience I always had non-jews who used to watch the show but apparently it increased after that video now that's not surprising to me actually I'll tell you the truth because there are times that I've spoken at dinners in America and when I I get up to speak and I'm looking at at the audience I suddenly see that the waiters all come in and are listening to my speech so I have a certain Universal appeal apparently yeah uh which is not as interesting to me is the fact that I have do IIT who watch this show I know that for a fact and they tell me afterwards K yeah there so I say you spoke you speak English you understand English they go a little you know I know enough other people say no I just enjoy watching you [Laughter] talk so I don't know um I'm just gonna give a shout out over here because in the early years of the podcast there was somebody from the hearing impaired Community who used to go over the um the captions you know you could for the hearing impaired there's a button you can use on YouTube to be able to get uh you know what I'm saying in captions and he used to edit them because they would come out in kinds of crazy ways and I don't know where you are I hope you're still watching and um and uh please come back but at any event um so I'll explain this concept of a this means that if I give you a gift I can give you a gift on condition this becomes yours if you um will do this for me this becomes yours if uh you don't uh use it in this way this will come yours if whatever it is make a condition so I say this is your gift on condition that you give it back to me well I'm borrowing it no I did not say I'm lending it to you I'm giving it to you as a gift and it's fully yours as long as you give it back to me uh this comes up most often in Hal by YULA VRI where on the first day of suus because it says it has to actually be yours so I say can I borrow you a little of an estg and I say no because if I lend it to you it's not yours and you're not your say the Mitzvah you have to get it as a gift that it belongs to you he says oh can you give it to me as a gift and I said no you'll never give it back to me I know you you low life but I'll give it to you as a which means it was only yours when you did the Mitzvah on condition you give it back to me and if you don't give it back to me it was never matona it was never a gift and therefore you never got to use it okay okay that's a principle the principle works now here's the question I'm going to give you your shus as a mat as long as you give it back to me now that would save us all a lot of time and effort because I only have to make one shus and I bring it around to everybody and I give it to them and I take it back not this similar to that scene in the Marx Brothers movie I don't remember which one it was where this fellow brings out a glass of champagne on a tray and grouo says I'll have that and says that's for Mr Williams and he pulls out a $20 bill and remember this was back in the 1930s you know says you see this he goes yes sir he takes it he drinks it he says come back later and I'll let you look at it [Laughter] again that's maton right I'm not I'm not giving it to you I'm just letting you hold it then give it back to me so does that work or not since technically it works the conclusion he comes up with is no because the purpose of shus is to make shom it's to create Ry Brotherhood love and uh and togetherness and if you give me something and take it back before I have a chance to use it then it's not fun it does not draw us together you technically did what you had to do but it did not serve the purpose much as these people who go around you're supposed to ask forgiveness to everyone that you've hurt before yum ker so people go around with a broken Spirit a contrite heart and sometimes in sh and arim Kipper and they go around to people who they may know even that they may have heard or said bad things about or done things to and they go are you wow it's so sincere you forgive me you forgive me you forgive me forgive it's go right then you come to one of these people that you're actually heard and you say do you me says I don't know because you never really apologized do you I told you I don't know because you never actually do you me that's it I asked you three times now it's you yeah so obviously that doesn't mean anything what it means you aot when you ask the person for forgiveness means you actually went to the trouble of trying to get their forgiveness not just I went through something of rote so to over here if I just give you a shal monus without any particular meaning it's just rote so it's the same thing over here where uh since the underlying principle of shus is to be you know Shan then the more effort I put into the shus in a way that's going to get you to enjoy it if I can send you a shalak monus that that that brings a smile to your face in the process you know so there was one year when the Israeli elections uh came out right by purm so we uh our sh was an election uh kpia a box was a white box we put the little uh the little symbol of the state of Israel on the outside like an election box and we put in something in the Box to represent every political party and um and we basically said okay let's see if you can figure it out people had a lot of fun trying to figure out what each one was you know I remember I put in some kind of a poer thing you know explosive thing that was for the Arab parties that's the only one I remember for sure but um uh you know it's a um the idea that you know it's fun send something that's fun that's enjoyable I understand doing it in a way that someone's going to enjoy it so okay I'll come out in favor that so that's that's shus so shus it's supposed to be eaten at the suda so if you can't have the suda on shabas you do it then so how does this work what is the the technical aspect so it works like this pabas no question pabas so um the only thing that you do on uh shabas that has to do with purm is you actually say the the little prayer in benching and in that's that's the only thing you do on chabas Al on chabas that's why there are many that do not even print Alim for in the uh the amas of chabas because it only applies every now and then in yush so they don't printed in every sitter but okay that's what we do we push the McGillis Esther back to Friday because the PK and the Milla says these are the days of the reading the Milla you can't go before them or after them so you cannot go after the 15th so you push it back to the 14th so we read mcgilla with the rest of the world which uh is something of a downside because one of the great things with celebrating shushan purm is that you don't go into purm straight from Tinus eser because when you go into a fast day you can't break your fast until after Mill reading so you walk into the mcgilla and you've been fasting all day and these kids are banging and making noise and shooting cap guns and halfway through you don't care about humming you want to kill that kid you know so it's uh you know so normally we do it on the day after so we're not fasting anymore but uh this year we have to read it with everybody else we read the mcgilla at night and during the day and we give out our that's all on Friday and that's all we do on Friday and then shabas we say Alim and then in a sort of counterintuitive way we have the perm suda and shus on Sunday now it makes it much easier because normally you have to go to mcgilla reading then you come back then your wife has to go to Milla reading and then she has to come back then you have to start delivering shalas and then you have to get the ready Etc and now you just go to a regular dining just a regular it'll be a Sunday morning dining yeah and you can set up Yuda send out your Shon it's calm as can be so I said this once I remember speaking Yeshiva and I said so we do the Milla and the maton the gifts to the poor on Friday we say Al on shabas and on Sunday we have our po meal and Feast they call that sud yeah Feast P feast and they send out the shus the food gifts and this one yes says and you're drunk for 72 hours straight I said Okay I I haven't seen that brought down anywhere the drinking is really part of the suda but um yeah okay I guess so people people are mock B when it comes to the drinking to make sure they get it in on on every aspect of per but it's uh a really unusual kind of a situation A per Mish and it's so unique that it's only here in yam that you can even have such a thing so the last time this came up I remember I did the theme for my shalak monus three because it was part of mish Mish means three part yeah three I don't remember everything I had I remember we had hin that was an easy one three three corners I remember I made three bean salad I don't remember anything else that I did but um [Music] um I had all kinds of three things in the theme and um yeah yeah a lot of fun so uh so it's an unusual purm and it's an unusual PES and it's a special year and what can I tell you here in erel especially um we've uh we had a rough couple years and I think that there are a lot of people who who could use some extra s that comes with the perm spirit and everything that goes with that and so uh it will be a filled with a lot of happiness and joy for cville and that brings us to the question and answer portion of our program first question by Anonymous please explain the when aik was going to wipe us out it says right which is what uh H plan to do to us and therefore of course we have a Mitzvah to wipe out a m men women and children how do we square that with Western values in 2025 you don't have to square that with values in 202 5 uh the concept of genocide believe it or not has not been considered socially acceptable for Millennia um the ramban says that the reason that parro went to the m and told them to kill the boys is because he was afraid that the nation would Rebel if he ordered all these babies to be thrown into the river because even the the Egyptians who had made us subhuman and were beating us and treating us in all these terrible ways would uh would Quail at the idea of genocide so apparently the concept of genocide was something that would be difficult even back then um M Shapiro said in sheer once he says I was in the middle of Mill zester and this idea came to me suddenly hit me says H does a a lottery that's why it's called purm po is a lot right Lottery he does lots to determine the best time to be able to um uh destroy the Jewish people and it comes out to the month of ader and when it came out to the month of ader he was happy and says M why was he happy it was which is the first month of the Jewish year and it wouldn't be wiped out until Adu which is the 12th month so it's going to take 12 months for you to affect your plan why are you happy that it happened now and that's why by the way when morai tells Esther to go into the king now he says we have a whole year he says you go in right now don't wait and that's why he told the Jews to fast for three days um before she went in and one of those days was the Seder they didn't have the Seder that year because they were fasting but he said act immediately he says why was he happy I came out to Adu was so far away and he said because he was afraid that the Persians would not be comfortable with genocide but give people enough time and they can get used to anything and uh things that were considered outrageous when Once Upon a Time giving people enough time when Obama ran for president he of course was opposed to gay marriage and um once he was in office he decided to push it so he sent his Vice President Joe Biden out to suggest it and of course he received all of the abuse what you know this that and he just kept pushing the idea and then he'd have other people push the idea until finally he B Bally said as we say in Israel you know people want people want what can I do you know it's the voice of the people because after a while people get used to it you get used to anything yeah and so um so genocide has never been considered uh you know something that is socially acceptable in the world by any society when it comes to a mik um I they have to argue from the position of authority now some people ask this question about the seven Canaanite Nations that we're supposed to destroy we don't have to destroy the Canaanite Nations they can leave we basically present them with the following listen you guys are really wicked I mean like super Wicked and um you guys God has said your time is up so if you want to be Wicked do not be Wicked in the king's Palace go out someplace else and if you leave we let bygones be bygones and you can get out of here and no one's going to do anything to you and of the Seven Nations the gear gashi said that sounds great to us and they left and they went to Africa where they got a beautiful land it says and they survived the remaining Six canidate Nations said go ahead let's see what you're going to do it's kind of stupid to say to people who can drop the sea on top of you did you hear about the 10 plagues you know what you're dealing with over here yeah so they but they had the option and and we said basically the same option that we have because God says if you're evil I'm going to throw you out of my land and if you stay you will be destroyed yeah yeah if you stay after you have passed the point of evil you will be destroyed so the seven kind Nation but aik is not given an option we are commanded to wipe them out from every single person because God says we make choices in this world and the choices now this is very important to understand we believe that the choices that a person makes just like there are physical genetics There Are Spiritual genetics and therefore you can affect your soul in such a way that it's passed on to your children so I'll give you an example the gamarra says how do you know if somebody is a descendant of the original Jews Abraham Y and yob or whether they're descendant from uh the AR the mixed multitude that came out of Egypt how do you know you descended from it says a Jew has three qualities yeah um they're merciful they have a sense of Shame and they do kindness it's built into their genetic makeup it was so interesting in the 1980s I remember reading an a study in Psychology today where there were they found that two twins who were separated at Birth I iCal twins if one was brought up in a generous home and one was brought up in a stingy home they were either both generous or both stingy it was genetic traits are are set for us amalik decided to commit suicide they were the first suicide bombers they forced marched hundreds of miles through the desert to attack the Jews after the Red Sea just knowing they were going to get killed just so they could show everybody you can attack Jews just to make Jew hatred acceptable and until that point as it says in the O Yos the song they sang after the it says everybody was afraid of us everybody was panicked nobody would have ever touched the Jewish people but after AAL the example the kazal give is somebody who throws themselves into a boiling bathtub knowing they're going to get school fed but they'll cool it off for the next person they just wanted to make it acceptable God said this is such a hatred that is so inbred in these people that they are going to destroy you if you leave them they will destroy you so shaik King Saul goes out to destroy a Malik and he doesn't kill the king of a Malik he leaves that for schui to do and when schw Nai comes in and founds out that he didn't kill him he says you just lost the kingdom cuz you're the king you were supposed to do this and don't don't save that night uh as a captive he managed to get a hold of a woman and have a impregnate her and had a child and from that child came hon who almost erased the entire Jewish people and that's why it says people who are merciful to the cruel end up being cruel to the merciful and so God told us trust me on this one yeah I uh I know this will get me off of Nucky radio but uh I I'll give this reference anyway I I was a trekky when I was a kid U the original Star Trek in the 1960s you know when I was a kid and um so when the movies came out I see the Star Trek movies so the uh the I think it was the third one the Search for Spock so he ends as often happens he has this big fight with the uh with the Kling on you know captain and have a big fight and the Clon guy falls off the cliff and he's holding on and Kirk reaches down and says give me your hand now this guy's been trying to kill you what is the point over here but this is what the hero always does it's like when you see those scenes with the sword fight and he knocks the sword out and he like lets him go and gets it you know tosses it back you tosses it back his thing to continue the fight because I don't want to win that way you know which is absolutely ridiculous that's why and get smart they did a take over on that where he knocks out the sword and he goes you know I will give you back your sword and he lifts it up and he tosses it to him and it goes right through his arm and he says sorry about that but anyway so he goes give me a hand and the guy grabs his hand and tries to pull Kirk down the side of the cliff with him so he braces himself and starts to kick the clung and saying I've had enough of you because that's what you're supposed to do when the enemy is there you don't extend your hand and say quick let me give you a second chance to kill me yeah and so um by a mik this is I'm arguing from a position of authority God said these people if you do not destroy them they will destroy you take my word for this I am God you know I've been here forever this is the whole discussion of Baby Hitler if you can go back in time and kill Baby Hitler would you do it you say well he hasn't done anything yet says okay how many millions of people do you need him to kill before you kill him so that sometimes by doing something that appears cruel it's actually something that is going to save many lives and that is our idea better to De blow up the hisbah people with their beepers to blow up the hisbah leadership than to leave them to keep killing people and if you read the history of the atrocities that hisbah has committed you know you do better to be able to destroy the evil and in fact that's what perm is about PM is a celebration of our victory over Amal Tinus Esther which is not like any other fast day is we're going out to battle against the Malik and when you go out to battle you're fasting that's why we do that and then the purm is the celebration of the victory over it and that's it for this episode if you want to find out more about the show you can go to my website ri.com you can ask a question you 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