#110: Behind the Bima - Rav Rimon

from Boca Raton Florida rabbi's Ephraim Goldberg Philip Moskowitz and Josh Brody are taking you behind the bema the BRS Rabbi schmooze about contemporary issues and talk to special guests who give up behind the scenes look at how they got to where they are and what keeps them going welcome to behind the bema good evening it's Wednesday night 9 p.m I'm right back from Goldberg joined by my dear friend and colleague by Joshua Brody and we are here to take you behind the bema you're here to take you behind the beam hold on let's read this you ready yeah um welcome back to behind the beam everyone we had a wonderful Hanukkah celebration of Boca Raton Synagogue this year yes it was beautiful it was a beautiful week filled with manure lightings Latka making and plenty of fun and let's not forget the dreidel tournament I think I may have gotten a little too competitive huh you and me both but in the end it was all for a good cause raising money for charity speaking of Charity we had a great turnout for our tour drive for local children it's always heartwarming to see our community come together to give back definitely and of course we can't forget about the da fiomi I'm happy to report that I am still on track even with all the holiday festivities excellent work Brody and I have to give a shout out to our amazing team of volunteers who help make everything run smoothly thank you to all of them for their hard work uh absolutely now let's get back to studying preparing for the next holiday sounds like a plan until next time okay do you know what we just read I I was not following this first time I ever saw that I want to tell you what we just read because somebody sent this to me moments before we came on the air we are of course a live show it is live the fourth night of Hanukkah Wednesday night so the new craze I don't know if you've seen it is this AI artificial intelligence this website that you could put a prompt and it will spit back in milliseconds something brilliant so somebody put the following prompt into AI write dialogue for it by FM Goldberg by Josh brodatives in the next episode behind the bema they should recap Hanukkah events at bookeroton synagogue make sure to include a few off the cuff jokes and Brody's Duff update and that what we just read is what it gave back that's incredible amazing it knew that I call you Brody your daf update that you're still keeping up yep thanking volunteers look I am sorry I guess it's going back to the original behind the beam when we used to do the lachaim so is that unbelievable so we had a business is this artificial intelligence gonna take over behind the bema you know I what do you think about it let's say somebody I'm related to might be a fact Checker is a little obsessed with the AI putting in prompts and seeing the Palm articles the essays apparently it's the craze in schools because teachers can't tell if something's plagiarized or if AI wrote it or a student someone just told me one of my kids told me where somebody had AI write an essay for them and said include four spelling errors so that one was submitted because it had four spelling years right it's not fair it's out of control right like I literally had a plagiarize like I didn't have the yeah behind the bema does not condone or support plagiarizing of course make it through high school was not easy some of us weren't gifted you know we're gonna do our best yeah it's pretty outstanding you think it's a good thing or a bad thing AI no it's definitely a bad thing it's definitely a bad thing yeah yeah absolutely I'm saying because the whole thing and I'm learning this right now Netanya is all about the relationship that we have with that you can't you can't you cannot manufacture a relationship it's either coming from your heart or it's not real it throws so much into question right that there's a robot technology computers automated artificial intelligence somewhere whatever that is that can have the creativity and the Ingenuity and can articulate an idea it can take someone's style and and put something out that sounds like it's unbelievable it first of all bad for Education because I think that the wrong people will do the wrong things with it I'm not saying they're going to end the universe but I'm just saying it'll slow down or block um our ambition to learn and to grow because we're just going to use this cop-out of AI but also just questions you know there's a famous story of the satma Reba who used to Daven in a way that was very demonstrative he would flail his arms and passion enthusiasm and energy was once at a wedding there was a barge and it's like a like a joke or a jokester or an Entertainer and they entertain and they have to stop marabi do you mind if I imitate you Samara said by all means if we'll entertain the bride and groom the the wedding festivities please so in the middle of the performance of of this Jester he did an imitation of the way the Samurai davins and the samurai began to cry so that you can imagine the jester was devastated he made the samura cry so he went to find out what happened said you know when I watched you you did such an exact imitation of me it was so spot-on and when I saw the way you were imitating me so closely I thought to myself maybe when I'm davening I'm just imitating myself maybe it's not real it's not authentic maybe maybe I'm just imitating me from Once A Time Upon a Time so like if a computer could imitate me then who am I like just have a computer do it for me so is that me doing it because it's using my the present also it's again a computer it's in milliseconds you put it in the prompt and it spits back a poem an essay or whatever you wanted to in milliseconds it scours the internet there's a pattern in a history and a precedent and a style it's unbelievable yeah but I'm just telling I really don't believe and maybe with with some people it could work but maybe I don't know I I don't I don't think it will work with me I don't think that there's any computer that can figure out my head right now because I can't figure it out so if you can if some computer has a better idea I'm still trying to figure out they're everything the most basic things in life I can't figure it out so if the computer does a lot a lot of Ethics into question like morally AI morally and I know there are a lot of ethicists writing about this I'm thinking about this right now but you know it's kind of like are we going to build robots are we building computers that are going to take over like if we can build it to think like us and to imitate us can it control us and will it develop a mind of its own and I don't mean to like create some sci-fi right uh conspiracy here or panic but I don't know if it doesn't if it doesn't wow you and move you and make you think anyways that our little opening script right there I've never gone to the website I don't want to right I'm afraid to I don't want any everyone I know who's checked it out has become obsessed with it and plays with it and puts prompts into it and I don't want to as I get closer to having to write a drush a sermon a Class A sheer or whatever the speech may be I don't want to be tempted to put something in and see what it I don't understand how it works I mean you go to a website you type in a certain certain subject matter and then any artificial intelligence website and there's a prompt so you say you say um let's say I was gonna say right an article of Hanukkah in the voice of Rabbi Josh Brody referencing the Jewish Federation and the PJ Library Hanukkah event and it will send you back like an article an essay in in it'll call from anything you've ever written that it could find online and in milliseconds figure out your style and incorporate the things you thought to incorporate and put back the essay done huh oh I love it I just ruined you that one second right there get it right like a Russia like if you if can I say like write a trust on this week's Parsha Yeah Yeah a different let's put it this way a prominent very big very accomplished sent me earlier today he discovered it and he wrote have you seen this look what I asked it to do and look what it produced that's what he texted me and what he asked it to do was to put a um this is the prompt right at Vitara for me right and you know what it writes it writes back all right occur at the same time this year creating convergence of significant events Mickey's 10th part of the book of gracious tells the story of Joseph's rise to power Egypt partial teaches about the power of forgiveness the importance of perseverance the face of hardship is the beginning of the new month it's time for Renewal and reflection no as we celebrate these events we're reminded of the power forgiveness the importance of renewal and the enduring strength of Faith May these themes Inspire us to be our best selves and bring light into the world unbelievable one second one second I mean I know you're busy this way do you need any help with Russia ladies and gentlemen I'm happy to give I'm happy to give it to Russia in the 90s we have just ruined Joshua Brody we've just ruined Josh Brody we've ruined him ruined it oh boy someone just sent me a new one and then we can't spend the whole night on this we gotta go okay you ready it's crazy somebody just sent me this is the prompt write a promo for Friday Night Live in the style of Josh Brody president of the program designed to introduce the beauty and sanctity of shops and you know what it says are you ready to experience the magic of Shabbos come join us for Friday Night Live this program is designed to this reduced to the beauty and sanctioned Shabbos every Friday night we come together to sing pray and connect with each other and with God or expertly will guide you through traditional Shoppers rituals it's amazing let me just tell you because because we were writing up something for this week's flyer and I edited something that Rob's got it this is much better than anything we did please send it to Rob right now we have officially ruined Joshua oh this is great okay what's the web I can't say the website I don't know what it is I don't want to go to but I also know my personality and I don't have the time to start looking at it and playing it saves you time it's not playing with it I don't want to be tempted by it I think there are boundaries there are lines that we don't want to cross so I wouldn't say in the style of Josh Brody I would say give me a Devar tour in the style of Robert Goldberg no because first of all because you know me you want a style of Rabbi Lord Stacks so I don't love rock or something like that but the problem is then you'll get up and say it and no one will believe it's you that's the point it's able to create something in an authentic in your authentic voice I don't think anyone's ever believed it was me and it's speaking of other unbelievable things not looking for sympathy from those from outside of Florida but do you know the temperature on Shabbos here in Boca Raton 75 80. this Shabbos is going to be in the 40s in Boca Raton Florida no now we're not ready for that we're not building them many of us don't have heat we don't direct clothing iguanas are going to freeze and fall from those trees and clap people in the head that's not good you prepared for Shabbos I got nothing I got nothing to prepare with I have no winter coat yeah I had a winter coat and I left it up in Virginia unbelievable did you yeah and it's actually got a one of those muffins from the uh they give you at the breakfast the continental breakfast I left it in the thing I left it at someone's house we have a fantastic guest Rob Yosef sirimon tonight before we get to another Brody anything about Hanukkah oh it's been great you feel like Hanukkah has been getting more action-packed every year with more competing events responsibilities things to go to and I don't know whatever happened to Hanukkah being like a little bit time at home with family and staring at the candles and experiencing it together it's funny I I was talking to Marla tonight she works at the Jewish Federation in the community we're talking about how when we grew up do you remember any public events for Hanukkah did you sure host an event did your school no I don't remember anything regret a Chabad with this I think it's Chabad public right they brought it certainly had a major campaign about lighting in the Public Square pursuing what do we do I just remember coming together with my family we lit the candles that was it but I just fear that Hanukkah will pass eight nights will be over and you'll be like was there one night that we just sat and and really savored the the moment I got home about two two minutes before the broadcast right right now we haven't left candles yet right you were at several events yeah so you should definitely like candles right now but I don't know if that wasn't Tanya or the dafiomi or Roxy or anything like that you definitely should like like you should light the candles but it's action-packed on the one it's beautiful the community comes together and the light and the it's a beautiful beautiful thing the celebrations and the joy it's all great it's all beautiful but I think that you know like like many things that their unintended consequences and we have to be careful about um you know we don't want to become too action-packed with too many things that we're running out of the home you know near ish ubeso it's like it's experienced in the home I don't know how we balance that it's getting overwhelming yeah it's a busy busy it's not a busy week it's a busy night but uh it is a busy night there's a lot it happens to be it's great because you have things for kids we had a great things that thing at BRS the other night for uh young singles which was really fantastic right I heard that the guy that's coordinating this event he's already put together between 140 and 160 couples well it's very special right to be part of that yeah but it's a population underserved and at a point of life that they need networking and inspiration and support and yeah yeah we're proud to be able to host it right proud that we hosted that I'm looking forward to doing a lot more for that for that age group and that demographic we definitely be keeping an eye on that and working on that which would be great which would be great wow so all right another exciting was it to Ramon who was just an outstanding figure if you want to feel inadequate or or yeah I don't know they're not hours in the day for what he does he just pumps out his farm he writes books he's an expert in Jewish law and takes questions from all over the world he's the chief Rabbi of of the whole gushazion region and has been the rabbi I've launched foot for many years how do they pump it he pumps out all the wrong holes in the classes from now on nah I'm just getting started with you wait till you see me next week so much more it's gonna be articles can't wait we can't wait anyway the Ramon is one of our heroes really amazing special person it's an honor to be able to go behind the with him without any further Ado reviews it's a great privilege to be joined butter of Ramon to be able to go behind the bhima of Ramon is my brother and his family is Rob in alone and I felt connected for a very long time RAV Ramon not only as the rav of my my brother and his family but they're always incredible to be today the the chief Rabbi of gushaziva of Mahon lab to be put in publishing the swarim jab khatif remember my first question to you was how do you get everything done how do you get everything done your own learning being arrived to so many and available and helping starting and running interested organizations giving Shirin publishings for how do you get it all done wow so first of all I'm very happy to be here with you that Hashem to be with the rabbi that I know that is and gives so much good things inspiration for so many people I think that if you want to be a busy person you need to know what are the main things in your life and those things never give up for me I have two things one thing is Torah the other thing is family I know those are the first things in my life every day I have hours that I blocked for nimutura for learning for writing because he found speak and help everyone what I want be deep all the time in Torah it won't be serious if you want to be a prosec you need all the time to learn all the time to learn every day and second thing is my family and my children they know doesn't matter what how busy I am they'll be first they'll need me I'll be with them and it happens a lot a lot have a children here and then and all Hashem I'm with them and I help them I learn with them I do other activities with them when they need me they know that the first if you know those things what's important in your life then you can do lots of things and there's not a shame you'll succeed everything else fits in around it so every moment when did you know that you would emerge to become a rava posseque that you'd be putting out books on halacha at what age did you realize that this is ernitya that you were drawn to this expertise and that you feel competent to do it when you were in Yeshiva already did you specifically try to do shimush did you expose yourself to people that would help you to be able to learn to write to speak and most of all to have the Torah knowledge to be a posic it's very interesting I spoke with this a few days ago with my wife because on one hand I was sure when I was in beginning of Yeshiva that and when I was in high school that I'm going to be a doctor hmm my father was sad and he knew that I'm going to be a doctor I have a brother that is a doctor he's a very special doctor specialist in geriatric and because of this he was the doctor of Lafayette Yoshi and lots of great rabbis and the when I was done in Yeshiva initiate alexion in English came to me I sat in my room in his room he called me and they said I know you want to be a doctor I said yes for quarter of an hour he spoke how important is it to be a doctor he said to be a doctor this is a professional and I thought to myself wow how my Ravi gives me to be a doctor and after court of an hour I said but in your case you need to stay in Torah this is your mission stay until uh to stay in education this is your mission in life and then I stayed another year and another year and I found myself a rubbing the Gucci Shiva and then a review of the South and then review of guccib this happened in writing so from one hand it seems that it started then but my wife told me you know it in southern I said what do you mean she said look when I was dating with you and I asked you which books are you reading in your free time you told me shoot him say not to vote and then I told you what do you mean all your life this is what you are reading and say look also in high school when I had free time all the time I was reading shooting I remember myself in 15 years old I'm seeking at sitting in control Chavez and I'm learning then I learned that it was more easy for me and I'm learning and I know that I need to finish sometimes I had the koach that's when to put the shooting the side and to Finish Line sometimes didn't let me I was all Chavez all the time another truth and another truth and another children and I remember myself in the same age 14 is all that I'm reading vishnava and I enjoy so much another page and another page and I feel that I learned and I remember and I go another like read a book so I loved for years for years um actually I think it started when I was 11 years old and then my daughter my daughter my sister my older sister she was all the time asking your Rabbi questions in Alaska and she was sharing with me the answer she said this he said this and once she said I went to my ready to ask him a question and he said it's so important question I don't know the answer we are living in Tel Aviv to ask him wow Allah is so important it's ready to go to Jerusalem for five minutes to speak with a video she and I think that this brought me to try and to learn more and more Allah and of course in Yeshiva I'm also my time and then but I think it's something that started me for maybe 13 14 the love the special love to Allah at a young age what a great Sahara Sahara to learn the shooting of all the Saharas that are out there that's an amazing so religenstein was a tremendous influence on on your life on the Rob's life um specifically in in halacha who are the other influences today you've emerged the robbers emerged of posseque and I know that people call you and they write to you and this forum that you put out um I'm in WhatsApp groups with you where people pose questions all day and the Rob writes back to vote to people's questions in the WhatsApp group all the time so you're you're a prosecutive that people are reaching out from all over who are your Inspirations and suck was there time that you you put in to learn to gain is there a specific person or a Derek of sack that that guides thereof so first of all I have to say that I all my life from 14 years old I was going to Durado all the time to ask questions and I think that first of all is to go there to ask and to understand that from gronado you get lots of things and also that you don't need to go just for one kind that delay though that everyone is important I was going to the stifling I was going of course years afterwardsky I was going to a video shiv I was going to Rafa video Safe I was going to watch a to have going uh lots of very uh very important for advice so much that from each one of them I got I got another view and another view and how to think when you have an anacha questions what to do how to analyze it so I feel that each one of them gave me something important and another point of view and then I spoke maybe every day for 30 years it was questions with things and and to see if we can stand it that analyze that kids oh we can look this way and that way and to see all the the picture so this is something this is something that is so uh is so it's so important it's so uh um I think to have shields this is something that can change uh the view because you get view of the middle if you ask me who are the poskin that I feel that I follow that gives me the inspiration number one is feel that his way his system his Derek that on one hand is serious teeth and to see uh to try to find a way that won't be stunned just you know just make it without something that you can see it's based on the on Amazon to understand that mean again is a main issue to understand that Ben Adam that human is a part of and if you have something that you feel that it's not human think again think again it's also a part of and it's not something that you can do just from your heart to say oh I'm doing this because no no you have rules but in those rules you have to feel the big picture also the things that affect people and to try how to analyze all these two ways the the Torah is an incredible unifier the Torah unites us and and many of the Golem that you just mentioned would be Associated more call it with the haredi world but the Torah is a vocabulary the Torah is a language and whether you live in a long do you live in benebra and you're you're talking in halacha and in learning the Torah is this incredible unifier so what do you think is the future for the relationship in inherit Israel in particular but it's true everywhere how to cross some of these lines between the dadicioni and even also what can we be doing to heal some of these wounds to create relationships does foreign what are the openings for are communal and rabbinic leaders to try to cross some of these lines and to focus on what we have in common more than that what divides us how can we heal some of these wounds look there are lots of important issues that you mentioned right now first of all if I try to direct halacha you know it's very easy to say Oh Our Generation is a in a problem and we have I Believe In Our Generation I believe in the door I feel they have High Souls but it's confusing a lot of things confusing and we have to think how to help the people to be touched to Allah to values but to bring it in to direct it in the right way in the way that can be good for them and uh one of the things that I'm doing in my with my books because I'm trying to bring things from the sources people to that level and they want to learn but if you speak in a way that they can't understand you so then you say okay you begin just the bottom line other things they don't feel how Torah is smart bring them things it will be deep but do it user friendly do it in the language of the door of the generation you know when I wrote the algada foreign they asked me who is the the crowd Ed men women I told them I have every smart person it cannot be tell us the crowd he said you'll see this is the girl when I published it the rabbi that in charge read it he told me I read it from cover to cover and now I understand and now I understand and he said told me afterwards that musada of cook people come rabbis in valibuting and see you in him and everyone come and use the book because it's something that I'm trying and I think that this is something that we have to work all the time to write clearly to write to his charts to write in a way that everyone can enjoy but it's not something that will be easy it will be high level but it will be accessible for everyone so first of all I think that this is the way that we have to try teacher and I think that is another thing that we have to work on I feel if you spoke about uh I think there are lots of things that are upset that are common and unfortunately the media tries all the time to show what's the difference what's not common and we have to work to see things that are coming that bring us brings us to be together and I feel that a lot of things like this of this I have to say I feel that in the last few years and also non-religious are getting closer outside you can hear maybe other things because in the media they get crazy from this they need all the time to show all different and I don't feel like this I feel that I have lots of people that have redeemed that I'm in touch they come to ask a lot they come to buy the books to me other places uh also people normally just lots of places they gave a shoe in Tel Aviv a 12 o'clock at night place that everyone is non-religious people that are from you know from the television from here very famous they were around 50 people there are men and women and I told the one that came with me but not only it should be an hour but I think it will be less because who knows how much when I finish the shoe they said can we ask questions they started asking questions and she will continue until four o'clock in the morning wow feel that people they want to know they want their own thing they feel that something is missing and people want to be together and lots of things we can do together and I think we have to work on it so ravimon what do you think today are the biggest issues facing Medina Israel we have a new government there's a lot of fear that there's going to be religious coercion and pushback on religious coercion or we had a great opportunity are you very positive and optimistic of where we are are you concerned about where we are what would you from from your seat your perspective what do you think okay so first of all I in my life all the time I'm optimistic and I feel that we are in Redemption time we saw things in our eyes that for thousands of years doesn't dream never in history a nation was checked out of the country and came back you know I feel that today not to be ma'amin not to be religious Jewish not really I can't understand how can it be I mean we don't need to teach now we need to teach but not for this to understand that Hashem created the world you see in your eyes never in history a nation was chucked out and after thousands of years came back everything is written in Torah in a Vim that will come back it's not just that we are checked out we were splitted everywhere part here part there anyone tried to kill us and Israel came back together we have today with the United States we have the army that is uh a part of the the manhoods of of or to understand that is so a good army but the United States not just in Torah but it's number three in the world in high tech and number eight in the world in medicine in one of the only countries that reached the space and one number seven in the world in measure of happiness you can't believe it's it's not just to see that Hashem exists you see that Hashem where everyone is ready to see that Hashem loves us and helps us if you wake up in the morning you say wow I don't believe I see it in my eyes everything that was promised him so to understand if you understand that this is the the time that we are now we understand in Redemption and all the time we're trying another level in another level we are going up I feel that this government can be very good government and can be they do very good things I hope that the government will do it in the right way I mean on one hand of course Torah are the values of Torah um of course these those are main things in our life though it's a center of the life of every Jewish person but we know that the result told us that today we haven't got Mitzvah to tell of people because people don't know how to accept it and didn't tell us that we don't need to try to change things they said do it in a smart way if you start screaming at someone oh you are doing films you are eating it won't work it won't work in our generation think in a smart way and I feel that if the government that are good people there if they work in the right way if they'll try to laugh each Jewish person it doesn't matter now what he thinks to find good things and to really love him because everyone has good things that he's doing and Good Feet try to search for good things try to love to respect and then in the right way in the smart way try to bring our values I'm sure that it will bring Medina Israel to a higher level but we need to work in the right way such as not to speak all the time well we are going to change this we are going to do this don't speak so much speak good things speak on love speak on Amazon and then do the right things and people will accept them when you declare so many things people are afraid they don't want to speak to you and everything you'll do they'll try to say oh wait he's doing so it's right don't speak too much try to speak good things and to work and to do and to inspire and and to work not just santora if you are in charge on the United States of course towards the center of the Torah tells us to work on venomena to work on on people that are unfortunately in a low level uh with money with education try to help everyone try to see in the country you are working now not just your department it's not like you know years ago uh the rabbi would go to the minister and would pray to ask him please save the Jewish people if you are today in the government you have to think on everyone you are the government and to think on everyone is to think how the buses will work good how everything in the country how you take care of jobs for everyone how you take care for each person in the country and then people will appreciate you and you can feel that if you can have the fertility also to bring more Torah and more values of Torah and I'm sure that if they're working the right way it's a wonderful opportunity speak about politics should rabbis get involved in politics is there a difference in where there's a separation of religion and uh and politics and Eric Israel where it's a Jewish State and so maybe the voice of the rabbanim is different do you think that Robin should speak about and get involved in politics first of all it's very exciting writing that in every society in the United States onward or only place in the world the government is in charge on casuals on marriage it's it's exciting it's a part of the government because this is and because of this it's so important for me and I don't like when people try to destroy the revenues this is a part of our Medina part of our Redemption that the state is in charge also all those things and I think that rabbis should be involved but clever clever there are people that the profession is politics let them lead deal with politics maybe there's a rabbi that it's also his profession it's something else and if not okay rabbis can give advice all the time politicians can come to them uh I have to tell you every few days politicians come to me oh please sign on this sign on that I tell them my Father Allah told me please promise me that never you'll go to politics and I said okay I didn't understand then that once it will be a real I don't know my father had like a quotation I said I can't sign I don't say but I'm ready to give you advice but don't mention my name so lots of them are coming they can come from the left from the right I am ready to speak with everyone to give advice to everyone but without my name so like this I think rabbis can work smart sometimes with them without them okay I don't do what they want to do but I think it's important three advice will be connected to politicians because we need we need a spiritual View but do it in a smart way that will give respect to Torah and all the opposite so everyone is talking about we're talking about the safarium we've spoken about the learning and the centrality of Torah but another big part of your life and the difference you've made is in the world of hasid and when Jewish communities and thousands of our brothers and sisters were being pulled from and from Gaza you saw an opening you saw a need that they had and started job katief so could you share a little bit about what was behind that was this connected to the politics it bothered you that there was it specifically the human part of it that they didn't have jobs they needed jobs how come the government didn't do it why did it take a RAV and Allah to step up and to do it and and had it the rough at the time while giving shirim and running Aquila an issue of and writings for him how was the time to create a whole network is job captive still going has that morphed into something changed into something new wow okay so 17 years ago I got a telephone call from rabbis in and they told me actually it was more it was uh 2005 they told me can you go to the hotels supposed to to be soon and to see if they are prepared I went when it was my wife and I saw things well prepared no activities for children not laundry Solutions other problems and I collected hundreds of people from our community thousands of people around Israel and we help the people after a few days I discovered that worst of all is that those people that were working all the life found themselves jobless 85 percent of the people from bushka Thief on the day of the disengagement lost the jobs I went around I said okay the government here there try to do things and they say that are trying they opened an office but then I saw that it doesn't work you can't work in emergency with bureaucracy it doesn't work can you try you have to think all the time out of the box I started in my home to try to help people to call here and I saw it works and then I wrote like you write the sugya in gemara I wrote a chart everything today okay why people from why don't they find jobs this these these other options okay if it's this option what can we do can we do to change it so we can do this and this and this and this what are the problems that would be here okay exactly like this and I started to collect volunteers and then I understood that I have a system that succeeds in place that the government maybe tried but failed and then I opened job katief help 3 000 people to find jobs 280 people to open a business and broughtif to the measure of unemployment in Israel now we know when you hear three thousand people that say okay another one another one you have to understand after the trauma of leaving their home and destroying the house and everything from beginning finding the job is not just a job is saving the family saving the family once they were I gave a shield somewhere on Chavez and it was for girls high school of girls Ultra Knights called in Israel in the end of the shoe girls come hundreds of us one girl is beside around 16 years old when everyone is out she says as we want I wanted to thank you for saving my family I said saving your family all what did we do and she said if we're a happy family after the disengagement my father lost his job my mother lost her job and they stayed at home after a few years that the problem with money they started calling all the time and then they took all the siblings they told that they are going to get divorced and I said how can today my family my friends were so happy a few weeks later on jokative came in and found a job to my father to my mother happiness came back to our house everything like English from time to time I wake up at night and I ask myself was it a dream or was it real the defense told me that they are going to get divorce so today everyone for saving my family I heard this and I said wow if for this family was worth it job like this is saving saving a family and when I saw it works so well I said we have to to help other societies then I told my team I want you to try to help the Ethiopians there are already second or third generation in Israel and lots of them are working cleaning or something similar I wanted to try to find something today can be academic they they can be in a higher level and they went after a few weeks they came back and they said we found they can be nurses in hospitals this is good for them they are gentle their patients can be wonderful and they like it very much I said okay they started to check and after a few weeks they came back and they said it won't work because in Israel they have something called si hometry in the sense of thing called it sat right if they don't reach 520 points in psychometry they won't be accepted to nursing school and uh do you know what to do I take like two professional people to check why don't they reach and I thought it's not connected to nursing we did a an alternative test and we showed it to schools they didn't want to accept it then we went to one school and said okay take free as a pilot we'll face Taipan we'll pay money it's was also today seven thousand dollars for each one for here in that they agreed to take free we went to another school said they took three of the finals also you take three right they need one school and another school and we did the first group then we went to Hebrew University we told him we wanted to accept the Ethiopians we have a system where they say no is absolometry they feel like half of without the committee we won't accept we show them the results so they are so good so they agreed we went also to collect donations and today we have in the university around 100 Ethiopian students declare who is no obserometry the land has seen they succeed the working hospitals then I saw it works I thought I said we have to help more people and someone came to me that was trying to help soldiers for needy family native families we took it and we worked on it and today we helped thousands of soldiers there are Essentials all the time that our family families and things are complicated we help them to find jobs also when they are in the Army in vacation time also afterwards to find Future who are working today on other things that connected to teenagers in risk and to other people who is hiding that come from poor places our goal is to have to succeed to bring the people to be able to dream and to help them to make the dream real and to stand on their own to fit in the highest level that they can stand and one question from something so terrible like the disengagement Evolution lots of good things happened in call today LA office the office is Horizon this is a set of job captive we change the name to LA office to Verizon because today it's the project of the soldiers called employment the project for Ethiopians is because in Israel you're saying this you say right so every month had that person that made that original phone call right think about all this good the job khatif the Ethiopians the soldiers you you said that you got a phone call to say could you go see the place that they're going to be brought is it ready had you never received that phone call do you think all of this would have happened wow it's interesting you know foreign broke all the Saleem is something brilliant it says from the creating of the world from from the first one that heard he had a mission and I think the telephone call helped me to hear the and everyone can search everyone can ask he can have his life in the world and we have to hear to listen to the mission today in Torah Jewish person wakes up in the morning and he has a dream he knows I have a dream to make the world better to make a messiah and Torah and when you are waking up like this you will hear your mission and you'll be able to get quack to do lots of good things to help obviously I love the world remember you travel around the world you give shirim you go as a scholar in Residence and share this farim what what have you seen in America the American Jewish Community um what do you think that we can learn from one another what do you think that that the American Jewish Community can be learning from alone and from your experience and what do you think maybe you could bring back from the what you've seen in the diaspora from wow so if first of all I have to say I go to lots of communities in the states in Canada Australia England South Africa Brazil lots of places in the world and I feel that lots of Jewish people in the world are doing unbelievable work they are working with the communities to help them and to inspire them so many people they go to APAC they go to his donations they keep the government they keep the yeshivas they give Torah and Chris said I feel that lots of places in in the states have something that called community that in Israel it's not so strong lots of places they have a show people living in short communities something that I learned from people in there that were on the way in the world especially in the states and thanks to this in a launchable lots of things that I did uh healthy from the field that I saw that and there are lots of Americans also in a large group and together I think we have a community and to have a community that gives reasons to each other that together and I think there are lots of other good things that uh that they are in uh uh I feel with on one hand s lots of them are unbelievable for good on the other hand I see also lots of communities that are getting lost you see people that the the Sun the grandchild is marrying the Goya you see places that maybe now it's also in Israel but maybe there are places in America that it's a higher level that you see that maybe the center of the life is money and I won't say just money it's a to be convenient to go here and maybe sometimes you lose the point of the values it's not that also those people are good they also dose they are good people sometimes when the children are brought in luxury that's so high they're confused and in the end they are maybe following wrong things also in Israel it's a problem although while it's a problem but when you have more bigger abilities so the problem is you know to have lots of them and it's also challenging it's not easy and I feel a lot I mean lots of those people a lot of people in America they help me they help all my projects and I love them I love them I feel that sometimes it's complicated it's complicated if sometimes a kid is in the states it's more than a wedding in Israel on Chavez okay it's nice you go there you enjoy it but okay I had a wedding of my daughter a month ago and I decided if I'm going to invite people that I know or rabbis or people there will be a thousand people in the wedding it will be a very big wedding now we have a big family the other side is a big family just children I mean we have a children my father-in-law is nine children with all the children the other side of the color have 13 children I mean it's wow I decided with my wife we are not inviting anyone we invited just cousins and the children of course we invited the friends of the khatan and the kala and one neighbor from here this side and that side and we did away in 270 people in the wedding of both sides together and and I feel it was so happy was so nice and the Sinha was focused on the khatan and the color and the family so sometimes maybe we can do things in another system I know that a lot of people they cannot do it because if they do it it's uh it's a problem with the friends with people with the society but I think maybe this thing should have a shield also in the states and also in Israel but again I think that a lot of things this power and love and lots of places that are connected to Torah and and I think that they have the the right things that they can make the communities uh even better all the time and of course every Jewish man and women in the world his dream is to come to El Society so obviously if you stay there because you have a mission it's difficult okay but don't be confused remember the place of Jewish people is else Israel thousands of years we just waited till the minute that we can come here we are in a part of redemption so if you stay there says you have so many responsibilities in the issue of and to the whole and tomorrow and so many other responsibilities do you ever get stressed do you ever do you ever feel um the down do you ever what do you what does the rav do to relax what does the Rev do to is there ever any time is there any hobby that the Rev has on the side uh I have hobbies but I didn't do them for the last 35 years for me to relax is to sit and learn I go with the family I like it so few days a year ago with the family I go with my wife a few times and I enjoy you know I went uh short time ago I went with my wife for a short vacation of one and a half days and I went to some place that I don't know and I was sure that people don't know me also and I stayed in school and someone came oh can you give a shield after trailer I said okay I gave a shield I came back and I go to telephone someone told me look we have a coil here can you give me a shield afternoon we want to see you I said ask my wife is it okay or yourself okay and then she said look you have a short vacation why do you know what they give a shield and then she said okay I know this is what you really like to do this is our application I mean I enjoy to be with my family I enjoy to go to places in Israel today no fantasy things I enjoyed of course I enjoy it I like it but most of the year I work from the morning till night because that most of my time is Torah the other is he said and the family and all them I do things that I enjoy so also if it sometimes really crazy but um I enjoy I like it if I have difficult times it's usually because people share with me difficult things and I was late to other our conversation now because someone came to me a couple and the wife and a couple they had a problem if to make an abortion and a real problem a real problem and I cried with them and it's really touching and you have to grind sometimes I feel okay maybe also the rabbis need you know something to relax okay so I go home and I speak to my wife she helps with this and uh I think the same that that I'm dealing things that I enjoy there are lots of things with children movies of children of Latina vishna education is so important today it's so important create with my team things that affect thousands let's say thousands it's around 150 000 children in Israel wow that are learning Mission about movies and I'm also in the movies they know me everywhere I go oh can I have selfie and I I I see the children it gives a call to see children that they enjoy love I finished I saw a team namishna I saw the movies I finished now Saturday see children they they enjoy they are connected to Torah and I think that if those things gives lots of it's a beautiful thing you have the privilege to continue and to have uh who will help to find more and more work to do good things in the world and not everything you know it succeed also you can say nothing is a track something is to sing something but if you are you believe in your mission so also it doesn't go in your way you understand that this is a mission and you have to wake up in the morning to understand thank you Hashem that you believe in me believe in me you wake up you feel our same beliefs in your car and you have Quark to do there's not the same good things in the world oh man reverie month it's a perfect place to live it thank you so much for going behind the bema thank you for sharing and we wish the rav continued and other of this incredible incredible work it's just mind-boggling and overwhelming to think about what the Rev does in a day and what the rub is continuing to contribute and to do and uh thank you we're very very grateful for everything and thanks you and in your community I had the privilege to give love this year to see how valibati come and enjoy London wow the great referee Moon there is no way artificial intelligence is going to ever be able to duplicate anything that he does oh it's so funny you say that because what I was thinking throughout the discussion was will there be people though who will say what do we need why do we need Rob Ramon why don't we just load all of us into Ai and then the prompt will be a Shyla and it will scour halachic literature and it will give an answer and you could even be like here's a question I have based on Amazon's chuvas what would he say here's a question what would a Moshe say right will AI get to the point of being able to know and no I'm not saying that's a legitimate process of Allah right I don't think we believe that I think there has to be a human component there has to be sod Hashem we really believe that God bestows Divine Providence to help the righteous and Scholars arrive at the right conclusion computer can't earn that Hashem but will we live in a generation is there a generation to come and we'll say what do we need Allah I just need a computer I'll feed it my question and a prompt and it will generate my answer and what do I need a remote for with a character and a heart and a smile and a sweetness and knowing difference between people do I need the Personal Touch all right or maybe it would come to the decision that you would give but it would just come through it faster you know based on everything that you know and everything it doesn't have the human component if it doesn't have the nashama right it's lacking in a shama right the end of the day this AI this computer doesn't have an ashama knows all the postgame knows everything would it be able to come to a conclusion based on everything that's ever been written but it doesn't matter earn the divine right guidance ever imagined that this would even be a question we're living in a time of like you know that it used to be that people when they dreamed of futuristic and Future like they dreamed of things that are now outdated right Disney yeah Disney's Carousel of Progress is is so Antiquated right Carousel of ancient living you know we far surpassed anything that the Jetsons imagined we would live with Right video conferencing and electric cars and things that flies through the air and now ai just the next generation of progress but is it all progress or is it regress I recently asked a prominent person who's made a fortune by leveraging the internet right and I asked him if if you could go back in time and God said to you create it or don't create it knowing what you know now hmm the gifts the benefits the blessings of the internet of social media of of all the good the connection the total study the Torah learning the hasid coordination all the gifts but also all the damage and all the danger and all the what would you do forget it right it's done I don't go back to Elizabeth New Jersey it was simple life was simple you didn't need a cell phone you didn't need any of this it was an article yesterday's uh New York Times I would never pay a penny to that place but I saw it online it's called should more teenagers ditch their smartphones a group of New York City teens were seeking to free themselves on their phones on social media would you want to join their Club basically smartphones make us dumb dumb phones make us smarter it's really all about how smartphones and the technology is creating such such mental health challenges so like right you want to do it I'll go and you want to try for a week go to a dumb phone yeah I don't know if it's too late for us I mean could our RAV in it allow us to say we're not available on WhatsApp or text like you can't ask shylos or connect or right check in once a day in your in your in your computer everything would be you know yeah you could just you just you you got to be in front of your desktop Ramon has groups I'm on a Rob Ramon Shyla group right where people ask questions then he responds and and look at the good of that you have a post sake who's responding almost instantaneously high level sock right so there's a lot of good there's also a lot of bad and if you could go back in time you know would you stop it he said without a question this person earned a fortune that way say without a question so you know what's interesting is that you and I have had the the opportunity to see both sides our children are growing up in a world right now where they haven't seen the the other side like they can't even imagine that's true or this doesn't even exist I'd love to we're the last generation that's seen both sides right yeah try and take it away from them for a week and let's see how this how this all works out I think some of them actually would find it refreshing I mean there are people who there are still worlds you know I have sons-in-law who have dumb phones like there are worlds of people who say I'm focused I have some goals I don't want to live in a world of destroy I'm missing out on conversations and pictures and sharing that's why they have wives they can go on their devices and catch up when they want but but uh you know there are communities of people who say um you know that Purity that innocence that Simplicity that capacity to focus whatever I'm giving up it's worth it to have that hmm I'm I'm actually seriously considering trying it see how that works out yeah okay maybe for next week we'll find out let's see I don't even know where to buy it where do you buy one of those phones tune in next week to find out did Rabbi Brody switch to a dumb phone wow yeah maybe it's worth it I'm on the edge of my seat I can't wait to find out no but I'm saying you know like like like right now I'll show you I'll show the whole audience I mean again I got a couple different email addresses and this is it right now this is my I got two and out of all my emails I got two emails you're almost inbox zero yeah and these are just two things I take care of the morning it was a big deal so you twice a day you check in and all the other I've unsubscribed from every list like I'm sorry if I've unsubscribed from your list but I'm just done with lists I'm off of every list right now right so what's urgent call me if you really need me call me right but we live in a world where most people are like do whatever you need to do not to call me WhatsApp voicemail it's gotten to a crazy point that you ever get in like a voice note exchange where you're like 20 30 voice notes back and forth oh yeah just pick up the phone the telephone call me all right yeah why not how I got like voice voice not voice not voice not voice not voice note yeah it's almost like a fear of connection of contact of talking we've forgotten how send us the best uh dumb phones out there what are they called razors what's the name of the phone I don't even remember the flip phone the old flip phone I wonder if I could recharge my I don't know if it was it called was that a dumb phone the Palm Pilot or whatever is that you know there's a lot of the return to that Simplicity would be amazing but what happens when you need to figure out how to get somewhere and you don't have ways see that's a good question like what apps are so essential that it would it would be very tough ways is one yeah music music for me is a big one I love that probably anyone plays on Waze Waze is not a distraction it's just functional is there is there a way to get to get apps without using a phone like functional apps I think there might be and there are also ways to set up even a smartphone that it's blocking certain apps and certain things so you could have the ones that are useful and treat it like a dumb phone the rest of the way what's interesting is that this whole conversation used to be a religious one right it was associated with religious Fanatics don't believe in the technological progress and everybody else like welcome to modernity right but today because of the correlation with mental health and mental illness issues it's not right this is a New York Times story and the group in New York who are his teens are not hasidim right so it's no longer a religious issue it's a mental health issue I wonder what it would be like let's say I get rid of ways right so what does that mean I call the person I'd be like give me directions I don't think one of the Rebellion or Yeshiva yeah that's a dumb phone yeah and we had a meeting somewhere and he's like you just tell me how to get back to 95. I was like wouldn't it be amazing if there were like a satellite in the sky that could tell you how to go where the police are if there's traffic and alternative routes he's like okay whatever can you just tell me how to get to 95. you right in the left and straight then the left and a right are you you're one of the first adapters to let that what was it Garmin or whatever it was called yeah that little it had that like sandbag that said it's a balance on top of your dashboard right yeah whatever happened to that did they did they adapt or did they pivots one of us they didn't they just lost right because they thought that was in the future they know that you can have it on your phone for free well little do they know that I'm about to call them see if there's any left I think Carmen go on eBay do you still have it can I borrow it I don't know wow I don't know what to be able but for me the music is a big thing like I love having just music oh wow is this just in and we're a live show that's why we have a live audience this just in there's a company called fruber f-r-u-b-e-r from Uber you call a number and they order you the Uber you don't have a smartphone but you want to use Uber call this number fruber and dispatcher that will call the Uber for you oh it's like a so maybe they have that for weights I'll make it right now yeah where am I yeah every every ride there that's what I want to know everyone there's a business out of everything it's a business out of everything I'll be your Waze guy so what's the firm Way's name right phrase all right a lot to think about ai ai rev remote yeah a lot to think about tune in next week will Rabbi Brody have turned in his smartphone for a dumb phone we'll see find out this time next week our live show behind the bema till next time have a happy and a fantastic Hanukkah stay healthy stay happy and stay holy