#44: Behind the Bima - Special Guest: MK Naftali Bennett

from boca raton florida rabbi's ephrem goldberg philip moskowitz and josh brody are taking you behind the bema the brs rabbi schmooze about contemporary issues and talk to special guests who give a behind-the-scenes look at how they got to where they are and what keeps them going welcome to behind the bema good evening ladies and gentlemen welcome to behind the beam it is wednesday 9 00 p.m i'm your host rave from gobber joined by my colleagues and dearest friends rabbi philip moskowitz and rabbi joshua brody gentlemen what a big night wednesday night nine o'clock it is behind the bhima we have one of our highest profile guests yet perhaps a future if not the next prime minister of the state of israel a former minister today member of knesset naftali bennett what a conversation that is going to be and we're excited to bring it to you but there's also what else is going on gentlemen this week what is happening across the globe this week well the globe is boca raton synagogue this week 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distracted because we're bringing up a clip from last week pay attention but rabbi moskowitz from boston you're rooting for or against tom brady against against one what's the rationale a man who brought you so much happiness a man who brought home so many victories a man who brought home so many trophies a man so responsible man and went to a different team so last wednesday was heir of the super bowl and uh who was it the bucks against the kansas city chiefs was that the game chiefs and and tom brady who left the uh new england patriots and he defected to another team and last week i asked rabbi moscow's will you be reading for or against tom brady and this is what he had to say i am a team first guy but the second you leave my team you're off and so tom brady is no longer new england patriots he now represents a different team he left might he chose to leave new england and therefore he is no longer relevant to me i will be rooting for the kansas chiefs so that was last week we had a conversation we'd be reading for and rabbi moskowitz you were adamant adamant about the notion of loyalty and that if somebody defies you if they are disloyal if they leave they've lost your support not much no matter how much happiness they brought and then sunday came and all of a sudden the super bowl started to stream and i got a notification and i saw this and this is a poster by moscow for those listening on a podcast player later and not watching on youtube rabbi moscow's posted i tried hard but i can't do it go brady and my question to you by moskowitz is what happened between last wednesday night and sunday what happened what happened with loyalty and team and don't define me what changed that by sunday night you were rooting for brady you know it's so interesting i've always said sports are completely irrational and that's part of the draw for so many of us who are so practical and rational in our everyday lives we turn to sports because by definition they're so irrational and so yes i felt very strongly leading up to the super bowl that tom brady left new england patriots therefore he had no relation to me whatsoever i wasn't going to root for him i was going to root against him i was all excited i had my uh kansas city chief skier i actually spoke to someone in the community from camp so thrilled finally the rabbi is rooting for their team and and and my son i'm sitting there father-son bonding i see tom brady come on to the field i see gronkowski come onto the field i just couldn't do it i've been rooting for these guys for 20 years they've been part of my family and i just i couldn't do it and and i really i went back and forth all night between rooting for them rooting against them rooting for them rooney against them and i guess that is the irrationality of sports but i had fun doing it it was great father-son bonding and uh i guess i will continue to feel emotionally torn going forward well i will say that you actually ruined my night because when you were rooting against tom brady i was like finally i can root for him and i knew he'd win so i was excited to be able to root for the winner and then when you posted that then now you're going for brady i had to go against him and i knew it was a losing effort but for those who don't care about sports let's pivot the real question and the reason i raised it from last week is it seems to me that there was a conflict of values on the one hand loyalty and on the other hand gratitude there was gratitude to brady for all that he'd done for you the happiness he brought you and then there's a question of loyalty and i wonder whether this what are what are great and can ask our listeners they can uh certainly write in the comments we'd love to be able to reference them are there lahav de la have de la habdail but in the jewish world are there shuls where a rabbi was a rabbi of a shul for a very long time and then was recruited away to another shul are they yeshivas rabbi saks was russia shiva at wayu till he was recruited to landers rabbi arya libous was at landers till he was recruited back to you so would you apply your same rule is there institutional loyalty or does the gratitude to the rebbe the rush of shiva or the rav does it trump the institutional loyalty first absolutely and you brought up rabbi saxra sun axe left why you and came rushing about landers and they're again i wasn't working at you at the time but i heard the great vine that there were conversations about whether he should stay on yu torah whether he should be afforded the same platforms that he was previously after all like tom brady rabbi sax went to a different team he was therefore right perhaps loyalties are going to be different okay rabbi brodie do you know what football is i'll tell you something you're not even going to believe this but i got a call from someone it's actually a new member of the synagogue and they called and they said you know we every year we do something called a super seium on the super bowl and once a year they make us see them on a certain massachusetts the whole family learns it and they all get together and they said you know what we're doing it again this year we normally get pesach crone and charlie harraris it do you want to do you want to do this the halftime uh you know uh speech you wanna do oh baby i said let's just be clear here i don't even know what game we're talking about let's just i don't i'm coming in i'm brady i'll tell you brady's the greatest but let's just so that was definitely a highlight of my super bowl this is something which i never ever anticipated and you should you know the best part was i thought it's all behind the bema he says i mean it's because of behind the bema apparently i i zoom bombed this little cm and everyone was very excited to see me i don't know that's so funny because of your connection with this show that's hilarious that's hilarious i'll just bring up a comment from one of our avid listeners and a uh great sponsor behind the bema donnie oppenheimer in yiddish we're all on the same team always and i think that's a fair point when it comes to trades were there great trades and defections between yeshiva's and could you imagine if it's left elizabeth can't have the great defections or trades so donnie says in yiddishkai we're always all on the same team we are on the uh the same team of advancing god's interest blueprint vision for this world and i like that attitude i like that perspective so that was uh that was interesting rabbi mosques though to see a flip-flop on that i don't expect much listen i believe everyone could do chuva and i if i'm changing my mind i'm not going to be bashful about it but again i also want to reiterate this is all in good fun obviously sports are largely insignificant in the grand scheme of life and exactly largely they are insignificant in the grand scheme of life and it's just good fun it was a great opportunity to spend time with my my children and again to to lean into the irrational nature of sports fandom amazing can you guys hear me no you are frozen and you are also from a different location rabbi goldberg i think this is a first time that you are behind the bema inc from your office i am but you know what you guys keep talking while i figure out why i'm frozen and why we're having a little technical difficulty there so i can tell you first of all as soon as that super bowl started i i was already googling because i could tell that that opening commercial where you had this uh this coach who turns out to be like the greatest coach in history did you watch the opening what was his name so we so we we don't do the commercials those aren't uh those are there was a commercial this was the opening of this is the opening of of the super bowl where they have tell me who's the greatest coach nfl history he's not alive no 1970s whatever one of these guys then they bring him back to life for like a commercial he's giving this like such an inspirational speech he's getting i said i i'm like so excited the game didn't even start yet they just pump you up they get you so and again you don't watch the commercials i watch the commercials and i'll tell you something that was actually very very exciting about the commercials this year is the fact that they were so meaningful every commercial like i guess the whole point well maybe move to the right we're really trying to say that we could like pick it up we can do it together we can make things happen right it is josh and philip right now for those who are listening on the podcast we have extracted rabbi goldberg from behind the bible we have uh we have thrown it out it's just the two of us and uh but we're here but it was a great game here i i have to tell you do you want to speak about the picture that's behind you you have a very special picture behind you i do i was actually there i put this picture up and i'm wearing the special pin i don't know if you could see it you know because we're cut off there but right there yeah you guys you know because and i have my other pin here from you know we when you and i we both visited the mayor's office in in uh yerushalayim in jerusalem right we got one of these little pins because we have a special guest on tonight and as as i'm sure you will bring up you're going to tell him that he was part of an elite unit you know in the israeli army just like everyone is well just like everyone else just like my my daughter so you know i figured out maybe your daughter give a little give a little night maybe they maybe they're your mother to your in-laws to simone what is your daughter doing israeli for me she's actually not even in the israeli army i made that mistake by saying when i tell people she's actually in the israeli arm it's not the israeli army it's actually the israeli air force so as you can see it's different colors and you'll say well what's the israeli air force it doesn't mean she played first question does she fly a plane she doesn't fly any planes but she's involved in something much more exciting than that and that's called the iron dome so does she operate it that's top secret i can't tell you that you have a lot of feedback on your end now we can't hear you hold on can you hear me now yes welcome back okay it's good to be back i'm not sure what happened there i came to this location to have the better wi-fi connection did we ever tell our listeners the story did we ever take them behind the bema on the story of the challenger blowing up we'll have to come back to that at one point and talk about that uh talking about what it used to be like in in that office with uh when you get a dial up correct only one of us could be on the internet back in the day but without any further ado i want to introduce our listeners to why somebody have tuned in tonight first of all if you enjoy behind the beam at each end every week take a moment to go on beerusonline.org globalbrsonline.org global do your part give back be counted in honor in memory of someone uh please take a moment and participate it will enable and help us to be able to continue to uh continue to provide the programming that we that we do and say something i just saw a donation came in for me we are joined the this the reason they gave it specifically to me was to see if they i can catch up to the other two rabbis i'm behind the beam apparently i'm fine by the way i'm gonna get a lot of text and emails later tonight my eyes were all over the place i was looking all over pay attention it's rude i'm trying to produce direct right and get everything done behind the scenes all while the technology is blowing up and everyone's here to hear mk nuff tully bennett so everyone knows natalie bennett even before we spend time with him uh to give a little introduction uh for those who don't but most do uh he led the jewish home party from 2012 to currently serves as a member of knesset for the new right he was the minister of diaspora affairs the minister of the economy the minister of religious services he was uh the defense minister he served in the army in elite units for real real elite units as opposed to so many others who referenced that they did he was born in haifa he came to america for a short time in fact was my neighbor which we'll talk about he had a distinguished military career started two high-tech companies that he sold each let's just say for enough that he could help our campaign if any of us had the guts to ask him but he sold two high-tech companies one for 145 million and the other for uh some other astronomical figure got back into his politics uh represented the uh you the vichomerone movement and uh really really amazing individual who's had a very illustrious career in fact very recently the yamina chair naphtali bennett as we said he's also a prime minister a candidate for prime minister the icc which is the international court recently came out saying that they were going to try in the hague they were going to international criminal court they were going to try israeli soldiers for war crimes and he put out a beautiful video saying he took out this document from his pocket and he talked about every israeli soldier and he stood up and he said take me first so there are so many reasons to admire and to love naftali bennett a real leader whether you agree with his politics you don't agree with his politics but you have to agree with his service and leadership to the jewish people and be grateful for it and we are so grateful for the opportunity to be able to welcome him to behind the bema we are joined by your defense minister minister of the diaspora minister of so many other areas and current uh candidate for prime minister a dear friend from many years ago naftali bennett thank you so much for giving your time to us it's really a great honor to be able to be together thank you so much so great to be here rabbi ephraim i just need to tell all the listeners right now that i still call them ephraim this was about 40 years ago we were the closest neighbors and the our moms were were in our best friends and i saw it from you know as a little little kid and uh well sir i appreciate it yeah we both uh we both had a little bit more hair back then and we had a lot of fun on the school bus to yavin academy and come a long time and been come a long way since then so i want to jump right in and ask you because i want to take advantage of all of our time together and thank you for your kind words um when your parents and when your family and of course your father of blessed memory and your amazing mother when they were actually when you were in america when you spent time there both as a child and then when you were married and came back to america how did that time in america shape your experiences both as an entrepreneur in high tech in politics to being the son of olim impact you on your eyes in the army in business in in leadership in politics how did that time in america impact your leadership in israel well uh you know being in america back this was a 79 to 81 uh was a meaningful experience for me uh only when i was in america that i fully learned to appreciate how great to be israeli to have a a state where everyone around is jewish it's got some challenges on that one but uh really to i missed israel very much when it was in teaneck tienek back then was not yet israel ever since we a next team a few years ago it was very meaningful especially in terms of strengthening my understanding how important it is to have a strong jewish identity the fact that my mom and dad were olim what was also a profound meaning from from my perspective uh uh embedded the take all of this for granted uh they were always they had they were always positive they always uh appreciated the fact that there's this amazing step understanding all the problems that they encountered they never fetched on it my dad may rest in peace jim bennett uh really taught us uh by personal example the the value of self-reliance with american value where government to solve all your problems yourself in and and the problems that never did i hear in my uh um complaints about about the state of israel they were forever uh in felt uh in debt and and the that was one thing and the second unique uh trade fight for what you believe in which again you know exists everywhere but it's um something i i think that they brought from america my dad and mom grew up secular totally secular in san francisco in in the 50s and 60s my dad was in fact arrested at a civil rights uh demonstration that i would tell in san francisco that would not admit to african americans i'm very proud of him my same dad went to demonstrations in israel against uh giving up of israel during oslo so i i and and what we see here is that you know the the dichotomy where typically if you're right-wing you can't be for civil rights no no you can be right-wing which means and also care about um human there's a contradiction there so online is take yourself don't expect anything from anyone fight for what you believe in yeah and and certainly the impact of of the holocaust and who your mom lost in the holocaust obviously very much informed and inspired um the very traits that you just you just described i want to ask you the next question as as do you surge in the polls for to become the next prime minister of israel and could be the very first one wearing a kipa that's an enormous statement someone who's that t somebody who's religious someone who embraces torah and wears a kipa unabashedly unapologetically in public it's an enormous enormous statement and i think our listeners want to know we all want to know how does your judaism and how does that commitment to torah and to a jewish life inform what you do how did it inform your rise in your success in business and even more how does it inform as a politician the decisions you make and the way that you navigate politics and the vision you have for the future of israel how does your judaism and your relationship to torah inform and inspire that well first of all um thanks for the intro here i'm not yet surging involved so i'll just correct you on that one but we will very soon we're gonna surge uh having said that the the fact that this is the first time in israel's history that uh uh a modern orthodox person is running for prime ministership pretty well probably on a political basis it's it's not an asset i would say to be to be fair you know people are still afraid of it etc but being a a deep believer in amit um has a huge influence on me um first of all i i i i think israel is a miracle i think it's a a a divine miracle uh where human and uh have to work together a very practical person i i am a big believer in uh which means you know don't think that all is on you but that doesn't release you from putting in all your effort so i i would say that's the main area that that it's very helpful i work 24 7 well six uh or seven as defense minister worked for and defending the jewish state that was uh and and i hope very soon to uh return to a place where where i can defend my country um and i do everything i can i work really hard and put in all my neshama but i also know that you know you can all you do everything you can but then i have doesn't mean that all will be okay we know jewish history certainly of the past 100 years not always is everything okay but what is from my perspective it's what does happen is from hashem so here on earth left it work as hard as we can to build a strong jewish state jewish identity to strengthen to ensure that we don't give up one centimeter of land of the state of israel ever to ensure that that our next generation understands why we're here so we do and build a strong vibrant uh economy that's my high tech and then means you know you do what you can and but not always do things work the way you want but just know it's uh the rest is from hashem you've you've shown um recent great leadership uh standing up to the icc the international court leadership who claim that they're going to uh they're going to take israeli army to trial and soldiers for violating international law and you said put me at the top of that list was tremendous courage it's uh just one more example of your of your leadership and and uh your past army service and your current leadership my colleague moscowitz has a question about that yeah no first of all thank you so much for joining us you know it's funny every time i speak to someone in israel i get the feeling that they introduce themselves by saying they're an elite member of the idf but you actually were an elite member of the idea i trained for as part of sayer at macaula maglon commando units and i was wondering if you could share with our listeners what are some of the most enduring lessons that you learned fighting those commando units and how did fighting in those units prepare you for israeli politics [Laughter] well the the latter of the question is interesting but uh yes huge um the the huge school to fight quite literally to defend my family you know it lives in haifa and when i fight hezbollah in in left but no i said quietly when i uh take down rocket launcher in lebanon mom and haifa so it's very reversible for me first thing is always be on the attack don't let up for a moment i i recall in the 90s when in 1995 i was uh i think number one in the idf and the number of terrorists that that i uh neutralized um you know were in political correct terms right now but you know we killed a lot of terrorists and what i know when we came in and had a uh sort of a massive continuation of ongoing operations on the uh uh offense they they have no time to to you know raise their heads and think how to hurt us whereas when we uh cloistered and sort of you know went on the defensive it only encouraged them to to hurt us so it's sort of a paradox but the more you want to defend your people the more uh initiative you need to take i'm not saying scores or anything of that story but always be on top of it he who wants to kill you uh you need to uh precede him by by killing him that's that's what hazard said i'm a huge believer i saw it i saw it in lebanon uh that's number one and the second thing is always be innovative always surprise never go the the you know straight route because they're waiting for you so always the indirect um and and that's vital um i don't want to compare it to israeli politics while while i i i certainly have opponents they're not enemies um and and and you know something i want to say especially in in this era of uh elections and israel's got the world record in our fourth elections in two years but my left one from less patriotic than i am and they're not enemy friends mistaken friends albeit but friends um and and they don't have a monopoly on on you know the desire for peace uh the the respect for human dignity we all want good we differ on the ways and i am not willing to resort to this hate uh rhetoric which sometimes exists not not not in the streets by the way only politicians and media so it's it's it's fake i don't know what's going in america it doesn't look that great but here in israel the the polarization actually is not as bad as it's less down in the field there's not much hate but up in in politics and media it sounds it seems that there is it's funny that you describe that because i'll never forget um being at an aipac apac conference for rabbis and i think it was boujee herzog who had addressed us right before you came on and the two of you peter but in front of the room and you embraced one another and you smiled and you exchanged and each of you were so warm in describing the other and i think more or as important than anything either of you said having to do with policy or politics was simply to model that you could have different vision for what israel needs to do but were brothers were family and that love was on display and we certainly all need need more of that i know your time is very limited i hope we have time for one more question my colleague rabbi brody has for you thank you so much it's so great to see you just curious what is your vision not only for israel but for the israel diaspora relationship something that you as minister uh obviously know very well do uh diaspora jews have a right to an opinion on israeli policies and do israelis have the right to opinions about the future of diaspora jury big question um start with the bottom line we cannot give up on that's the bottom line and sisters and no way i i i i'm acutely cognizant of of of the change especially if the underdog their opinions on israel knowledge with the younger israeli generation which tends to be conservative it's very interesting in in the entire west the younger gen tends to be more liberal left-wing whereas in israel the younger generation is more conservative and right-wing i think a lot has to do with with the reality on ground here where you know we tried out the other way and really work notwithstanding this huge challenge i the bottom give up on each other [Music] to the people and if we don't take action moves lose a lot and we have to figure out how to create dialogue talk talk talk listen actually we should listen more than talk which is very un-israeli um but i don't have the the precise uh solution all i know is that i'm not giving up and if both sides decide to not give up and we're going to figure it out we we certainly we're in a new era the holocaust was now what what seems to younger generations in uh almost industry even though you know we're at the very last years when we can meet a holocaust survivor who still can talk to us and and who was uh you know aware of of himself during the holocaust it's not going to last long the holocaust cannot be the defining uh a glue of the jewish people the jewish state was founded uh um indeed because of of secure needs of the existential needs of the jewish people before the holocaust but herzl's vision was one of a survival based zionism they said you know it's not working out in the diaspora they're gonna something bad is gonna happen we need a subject state and only one three years after the holocaust but a shelter man that's not a good enough vision that cannot you know how inspiring is a shelter and if we're looking for safe places sometimes you know i think about perth in australia is is a fairly safe place with very good reports i wouldn't necessarily choose israel so the the defining mission statement of the jewish people is indeed know building uh uh uh and fixing the world the liberal direction to the the uh conservative direction all i know is that we need to be a beautiful jewish uh state a vibrant democracy that connects to jews around the world we need to figure out the degree of of mutual influence from my perspective uh when prime minister of israel i'm going to have two hats i'm the leader of all jewish citizens jews and non-jews alike and i'm responsible all of them equally but i'm also the leader of all jews in the world because israel belongs to you it belongs to you should you be able to influence it this isn't here is no no should you have some degree of influence yes where do we meet in the i don't know let's talk so i i want to thank you so much for this unique opportunity rabbi goldberg uh and i i just want to tell you one one last thing um sometimes it's tough in in this weird neighborhood where we've got all these people want to kill us it's weird you don't look over uh in mexico and see people want to kill you or typically people don't want to kill each other well much of our neighbors do yet in this very uh difficult uh environment we're thriving and i know how much you care about the state of israel and on behalf of myself and then the people of israel just want to thank all all the members of uh the congregation uh in boca raton uh for your ongoing support thank you thank you so much for being with us thank you for giving your time we know how valuable it is and while behind the b behind the world is an apolitical show we don't endorse candidates but i'll go out on a limb when it comes to a childhood friend saying we cannot wait for the day that we welcome prime minister bennett to visit boca raton synagogue to bring our delegation to israel to visit you as prime minister thank you for your courage your heroism your leadership your vision your sacrifice my last question uh naftali you may not believe it but i have a grandson in israel my children and my grandson live in israel when am i going to be able to see them when will americans when will non-citizens be able to come to israel we're desperate to be able to go about 30 days after i'm prime minister okay okay you heard it right here exclusive deal it's a deal and we hope to see you there thank you for giving your time it means the world to us we wish you and your family well and please send love to your mother and my parents send their love thank you so much wow yeah that was a that was a special opportunity well i will say this to begin with first of all here's a behind the bema rule for everybody the higher the profile guest the worse the wi-fi we have yeah it's just it's just the bottom line it's just the bottom line i don't really understand it but um you know we try to organize things we're so grateful for the opportunity you can imagine that a member of knesset bennett is a very very busy man we actually uh were unable to connect with him at 4am so we did record it just a little bit earlier and incorporated into the show and we had those technology difficult technological difficulties there was nothing we could do about it but we cleaned up the sound thank you to my dear friend matthew miller for always help his help in this and so much else and um ignoring the uh technological glitches uh focusing more on what he said it's just really really powerful i mean to have somebody in in that level of leadership and who is aspiring for the highest level of leadership in israel whether he'll get there or not uh will only uh be seen but for him to talk about bitarchon and to define it the same way as the khazanish to really define bitarch not that everything works out the way we want but however it works out as the way it's meant to be his devotion to the jewish people i love his commitment to say that um his opponents on the other side don't is love israel or the jewish people any less than he does he says they're gravely mistaken but they don't love israel less and i really admire that so that's what i took away from our conversation was his commitment to the jewish people um and again whatever one's views are whether you agree or disagree but that we can all acknowledge the passion the love the loyalty to israel equally that was really a beautiful beautiful thing and that be taken he was unapologetic about wearing a kippah and standing for religion and incorporating that in and it really really moved me what did you take away both of you well obviously keepers have been in the news a lot this week of uh religious people who either are or not wearing keepers and drinking cups of water but uh but yes all of the above i found it incredibly inspiring when he spoke about his service when he spoke about how you know when he's in sayer at macau it doesn't matter whether the guy's liberal or right-wing it doesn't matter you're all fighting for the sake of his state of israel um i found to me i got goosebumps when you know i brought your question about the relationship between diaspora jews and jews living in israel and he's he's used the words it belongs to you right he says it belongs to us and it belongs to you and uh for some reason those words i'm very powerful because i think sometimes american jews don't feel that as much that israel belongs to us that we are stakeholders in it we might be minor stakeholders in it because we don't put ourselves on the line and we don't send our children to the army and because we're not there with boots on the ground but but i i do agree with him wholeheartedly we are part of amistrel we are part of the jewish people and therefore we have a stake in the land of israel and i found that very powerful and uh while it sounds very nice to say that on behind the bema you and i both know the challenges of what that relationship and dynamic look like practically are actually uh very challenging as well i thought so too brody that was a great question and i agree with you about his answer it is it's a fascinating topic and really one we could unpack much more and and be interesting to hear other perspectives on you know there are those he said something fascinating he said when i'm prime minister i will wear two hats he meant to say i'm the israeli prime minister for jews and nanjes alike but i'm also a leader for jews around the world and i know there are many particularly from other denominations who really disagree with that and who are very turned off by that that just because you're elected prime minister of israel does not in fact make you represented in fact historically early on in the state that was a source of great controversy because it was actually jewish organizations in america some of the most prominent among the alphabet soup of jewish organizations that were very opposed to what israel did in capturing ahmed and trying him in israel they felt israel has no right to pretend that they speak on behalf of jews everywhere they're not they are a state in the middle east and jews live there but they don't represent jews everywhere and there are organizations that we know admire and love today who you'd be shocked to learn were critical publicly of israel at the time for doing that and there are those today who think israel doesn't have a right to say they represent jews and no prime minister of israel can say he's a leader of jews on the other hand where i say he's right and why i agree with him is as a jew i know that if i were in trouble anywhere in the world the state of israel would come to my defense state of israel has how many countries has it gone to to not only relief for crises but airlifted jews and taking care of jews so as jews we know wherever we are in the world and we can't have it both ways if we want to be able to rely on the loyalty of israel to rescue and save us wherever we are then we should recognize also that there is an element of there representing us and so it's a it's a complicated dynamic how much american jews have a right to you know he said obviously different than citizens who serve in the army and who pay taxes they're the ones who get to vote in israel but diaspora jews definitely are stakeholders in israel but israel is also stakeholders in diaspora jewry wherever we are you remember the campaign they did a mistaken campaign they took out billboards in florida which did not go well but it's interesting rabbi brody what's what's your take yeah i think also there's a very big difference between 2021 and 1948. i mean for the first time in let's just say a couple thousand years there are more jews now living in israel than anywhere else so one could argue that yeah they really do actually represent just by virtue of the numbers that do represent the world wide jewish community but that's just my opinion but i'll say something that's going to be controversial which is that i think this conversation will be very different if you had america on conversation i think they would feel very strongly in a different way they would feel that diaspora jews have less of a voice that unless you put your money where your mouth is you come to israel you're willing to send your children to the army you don't get a say in our politics and i also think by the way if we had different members of other denominations of of religious leadership i think they would feel very different about that as well their relationship to israel may be a little bit different than ours in terms of the access that they have in terms of how they feel israel has afforded them religious opportunities and things like that so you know recognize that we're somewhat of a homogeneous group here and i wonder how the conversation would be different if other people were involved in it yeah of course that's what we said it's it's complicated and definitely the other denominations and others would would see it differently but they're not on behind the beam tonight we are so yeah we're giving you know we're giving our opinion of of what we think um and we'll hear more opinions because actually in the next few weeks right josh fast the founder of nefesh benefish and a dear friend of ours from boca raton and beyond is going to be a guest um and we'll be interested to hear somebody who's dedicating his life now to bringing diaspora jews to israel that dynamic and that relationship is a fascinating question but i like to hear him say that explicitly he was he was not apologetic or hesitant to say um say things both from the perspective of unity of when he talked about not giving up one inch of israel when he wears a yamaka absolutely and let's transition with that to what was in the news a lot um perhaps yes sorry go ahead i just wanna just say one one quick thing you know today we had a really special opportunity here from one of the international leaders of birthright and he was telling us where they are and where they hoped to be he says he had a conversation with naftali bennett about 10 years ago now obviously i knew we had this conversation yesterday and he said you know when you he says he says you know you got it wrong in one place he says you can't keep talking about the holocaust you can't keep defining the future of judaism by by the past so he says you got to talk about the future you got to talk to the kids which one who said that so this is dr raviv telling naftali you can't keep talking about the holocaust i said we just heard him we just did an interview with him and all he was doing was saying you can't talk about the path you got to talk about the future he says i've never heard a politician actually listen to anything i said so we're so excited there you go we can credit behind behind the bimba first of all again big thank you to our sponsor dailygiving.org an opportunity to be able to give a dollar a day or more make giving stuck a part of your regular uh habit and routine at dailygiving.org and we continue to run our brsonline.org global uh where else can you tune in and hear naftali bennett moshe weinberger um josh brody modi sholum lemmers simcha liner one second uh ben goffman keep going i got the prime minister on the on the phone right now he wants to know if he can come next week we are coming up actually on 40 episodes of behind the bema are we almost ready for season three um yeah i don't know 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president's lawyer david shone who many people have reached out to say that they're friendly with them and know him we should bring him on made the decision not to wear his yamaka in the senate for the hearing for the trial or the pre-trial and uh however when he went to take a sip of his cup of water he put his hand on his head as many religious jews do by instinct and twitter lit up my favorite comment was all the people obviously unfamiliar with what was happening wondering why is trump's lawyer holding his head is he afraid it's going to fall off while he drinks he's holding on to his toupee they doesn't realize he doesn't have on yeah so what is he holding on to is he trying to keep his head in place so question you know naftali bennett not afraid to wear that yamaka obviously very different circumstance he's a leader in the state of israel although he pointed out that there is a price to pay for a yamaka even as you're trying to rise in the state of israel so what do you think you know not wearing a yamaka my father didn't wear yamaka at work he worked in corporate america for many years and he didn't wear yamaka because you didn't get a job or you couldn't get ahead if you were yamaka my father-in-law was a physician he didn't wear yamaka in certainly most of the years of his of his practice uh do you think things are different today can the observant jew wear a yamako without consequence today would it have made a difference if he was in the senate with the yamaka would the senators and would america with the public have looked differently at him if he was wearing the yamaka you know it's interesting because like you uh my father was a physician didn't wear a yamaka to work but he was very jewish and very proud of it so for example to this day i meet former colleagues former students and they don't speak about his medicine it's really interesting they speak about his judaism and how much he spoke about his judaism so he clearly wasn't embarrassed about it he wasn't ashamed by it you know i can't really speak about it i've never in that situation right i mean a job ever had has been in a religious environment where obviously i worry i can dream of going anywhere without a yamaka in fact i was once in germany with uh yu i'm a group of smith students were brought over by the german government actually for 10 days to germany and one of the things we were not allowed to do was wear yamaka we were allowed to wear hats we were not aware of yamaka and i felt very strange about it was really the first time in my life that i had been told that i'm not allowed to wear a yarmulke because i will be judged um because of it so i've never really been in that position i've never been in corporate america i've never gone into the office with my boss and explained to him about the um totem and there's something called shmini at cerris also so it's a little complicated for me to to really weigh in on that but did you have sympathy for him on the baraka i mean we've all been in airports where we had to dive in or you're coming out of a bathroom in a public place and you want to make an asha yatsar or you're eating with people who are not going to make a bracha and you're trying to you know you do the whole little mumble today the greatest gift that we have is the cell phone because you could stand in the corner of an airport or anywhere from minha you just hold the phone up and you used to have to look for a phone booth yeah i'll tell you the truth today it's even you know we're wearing airpods two out of three of us are wearing airpods for those listening and not watching and today you could be walking down the street someone's talking you think they're talking to you and they're wearing air pods so the idea of people talking and looking like they're talking to themselves is now normal in the world so it makes it less uh draws less attention when you're davening but did you have any sympathy or empathy for him in terms of that whether he was making that broccoli for sure of course and we've actually spoken about this i gave it russia about it once that i find it very difficult to dove in airports um i'm very self-conscious of it even though again i'm a proud jew and i i'm not embarrassed about anything but i find it hard to concentrate and i find it um difficult to dive in in airports so i found i felt enormous sympathy for him and i understood the tension that he felt when he was doing what he was doing i liked you know i was following twitter some of the also tapper who i was trying to get people out about what a yamaka and how maybe he was being reflexive and just naturally he goes like that maybe he was even posted from like yeshiva.org that maybe he was relying on the opinion that you could use your hand but it was really fun to watch everyone claire about that piece of the sleeve maybe maybe we should get jake tapper for the afternoon called boca raton synagogue i want to thank aaron miller for a donation in honor of matthew miller who is our tech wiz thank you matthew for all that you do cindy shreyer and family thank you cindy for the friendship for the support and we thank everybody who is helping us continue our mission and they are participating and joining our brs global community so yeah it's interesting the question of uh of the yamaka kirisha which way he should have went we're not in that in that circumstance i mean while we're talking about talking about us global and the opportunity to learn together i'll point out in the afternoon cola we have four afternoons a week at brs we have the uh dr yitzhak belazan basmedrish of the boca raton synagogue the base manager of brs we have a men's afternoon coal four afternoons a week a really robust program we have a women's mid rasha the danny greja our la shalom women's mid-rasha of brs so in the afternoon cola last year i gave a series of shiram on the question of wearing a yamaka in the workplace i got to dig that up online you could watch it i don't think it's on youtube but it's on rabbi from gallery.org nyutorah.org and and you can hear more about that question about we're in the yamaha in the workplace i share that not the flex that i gave the sheer or to try to invite you to listen but as an example of what brs is trying to provide the public people are listening all over the globe and so we ask you to join the global community rabbi brodie what were you saying what was i saying i'm passed on i was actually just thinking about it as you were talking i was thinking about i remember when i was in israel i got a great yarmulke story where i used to go learn once a week at reptifi koscielevski's with akiva resnick right we used to go i used to have a little uh little havrusa i didn't know what he was talking about either during that time like it was great we had a great time together my hair was very very long shauna olive and i didn't want to be disrespectful in rift fees so i bought a keeper probably a little bigger than yours rabbi goldberg that really covered a lot of my like most of my most of my head and i remember there was a guy right behind me and he says i've always wondered for the last couple of months you come here i said you have another yarmulke under that yamaga actually i told you about another one the smaller like the regular one i had a double i put a double yarmulke on somebody made i don't know if this is a compliment or an insult or what it represents but someone made a twitter handle uh of a picture of the top of my bald head with my yamaka and named it um like rabbi goldberg's yamaka or something and tweets i don't know what they're trying to tweet from it i don't know who did it or what they're trying to accomplish or whether i should be one second are you kidding me there's tweets coming out my yamaka is tweeting so i can't take my yamako off otherwise that twitter handle gets silenced uh we got a new uh just coming in from skokie illinois from chicago thank you lisa and ed never miss the show hope to see rabbi and mrs brodie at another restaurant someday soon i don't think he's lisa and ed from skokie we met them at one of our local restaurants they're great fans of the show yeah there's consequences you know these comments are coming and again our friend uh donny app and i'm getting a lot of play tonight i wear my keep on court but it's coming across with the judges and jurors saying things are treating me differently and jerry shiffman also adds i wear i agree i worked for the city of new york as an assistant commissioner i also wear my yamaka however because i always wore it i was held on a higher level than my co-workers so some people might be inclined to not wear the yarmulke and not because they think that they'll be held back or they'll be held against them but because they don't want to have to right they don't want to have to live up to that yeah let me dude let me tell you on the winter vacation there were a bunch of people i wish they weren't wearing a yamaka yeah yeah now i was ready to take that yarmulke and say take it off you're embarrassing me embracing all of us people wouldn't yeah sometimes we would not be how do you really feel rabbi brodie because i want to talk about dailygiving.org um which i'm enamored by no no not only are they the sponsors for tonight and i happen to be mishpacha with one of the founders of it but it happens to be a great story and you read a little bit about the numbers now you happen to read a little bit about the numbers of it but what i find amazing it's just two guys it's two guys who want to figure out a way to be able to give tadaka every single day and some days they were able to make minions some days they weren't some days they had a dollar in their pocket some days they didn't and they felt bad they couldn't have to duck and they said there's got to be a way that we can guarantee that no matter where we are and what we're doing we're always going to be giving a little bit of charity every single day and i remember when he approached me in the infancy of it and he was discussing the idea and telling me about what he was doing and it was a very small idea and when you were saying those numbers it's another example rabbi goldberg of what you speak about all the time which is that with a good idea you can accomplish anything no that really is a good idea you can accomplish anything if you put your mind to something you can make an enormous impact organization and that certainly adds up what they're doing is add up to a lot of impact i will add in from my wife uh that the mask is also perfect for that when you are in public places it used to be you came out of a bathroom it's making asha yatsar and you know ashiyaka as they say it's not you shouldn't make it while you're walking around stand still take the 30 seconds and recognize the incredible gift you have that everything the plumbing is all working so today that's one of the benefits of the mask you could be making a bracha you could be davening and nobody knows what's happening underneath that mask the mask has very few benefits can't wait to get rid of it and be able to exchange smiles and energy again but one of the benefits of the mask is to be able to to be able to do that so that is a benefit also our fact checker tells us that number one seasons make sense because they're when they're thematic or they're timed for certain times which i guess we're neither of those so our fact checker would agree that we do not need to have seasons but he also reminds us the fact checker we had the most prominent regular yarmulke aware in the usa on our show and our fact checker is not necessarily an enormous fan of his but he is acknowledging that his most prominent yamaka wearer in the entire united states of america who are we talking but even that was controversial if you remember modi was not such a fan of that individual's yamaka if you recall back i think it was like our third episode where modi went off a little bit on that guest um and even now we can acknowledge him love or hate his politics love or even hate his style but ben shapiro wears a yamaka on the air quotes torah references and torah values again some will say like robbie berta you said about the people on vacation they wish he weren't wearing it i think certainly it's a net good in the in in representing uh values at least of of torah and whichever way you cut it it takes guts it takes courage it's easier to take it off but to leave it on takes takes courage and brings a target of responsibility that you are going to be a spokesperson whether you want it or not so that is uh that is interesting we are heading to wrapping up to uh one of our most interesting episodes with perhaps israel's next or future prime minister enough television a really amazing conversation and we're so grateful to uh naftali bennett in fact i checked with a contact in israel i said you know in america if somebody used to be a secretary in the cabinet you call them secretary 30 years after they're out of office congressman you call him congressman 30 years out of office you know so nathalie bennett is a member of kansas he's not a minister anymore do i refer to him as minister bennett so the person left me said he's naftali naftali in israel like there was a yeah correct it's like naftali you call them naftali so i you know i couldn't bring myself he's mr bennett or a member of knesset bennett former minister bennett um so we're so grateful to him and to his office for joining our show that was uh something really special it's so funny mike i told avigale you know my kids in israel said that that uh naftali's gonna be on the show she's like oh yeah it's my roommate's uh my roommate's brother's next-door neighbor like everyone's everyone knows each other two degrees yeah listen cindy schreier will not be out we'll be out there i will not be out done uh mimi and ari schreier as well big thank you thanks for listening thanks for enjoying rabbi moscow it's an anonymous donation in your honor learning safer to talent for those who don't know by moscow's gives a worldwide appreciated safer time sheer on thursdays check it out tomorrow here on brsonline.org anonymous donation it'll be playing here on beerusonline.org global well i'll mom can you make one for me also you made his mom made it for him no that was not rabbi brody i don't want to bring anything up but it's time for you to step up you've got six supporters for a time are you kidding me listen my supporters are all they want to see what everyone else is doing then they start kicking in person i love myers who i've been for many years who did donation these honor and i you'd read the message that was the best part where he said basically i learned a lot from everybody goldberg or by moscowitz i never met rabbi brody but i feel like that we would get along well exactly i love there you go by the way you guys would get nothing so for all the people that might feel like that just throw it throw a hundred bucks in right now that's it we're just showing a challenge anybody here for all the people who have such sympathy for how the mosque and i don't let rabbi brodie speak much i'm not the yeah this is your chance to show it this is your chance to show stand up for rabbi brodie and this is right now stand up for rabbi brody and uh make a donation in his honor contribute to behind the bema and all that is coming out of the boca raton synagogue gentlemen rabbi moscowitz or brody any final thoughts on season two episode 19 of behind yeah it is it is february 10th which means we are coming up on a year of covid we were in israel last time together this year celebrating rabbi brody's daughter's wedding and already then people were starting to talk about cope remember there was a woman behind me on the plane who was coughing up a lung the whole time and we were joking around we're like oh she probably has covid [Laughter] phil was sitting in front of us this lady across the aisle was coughing right the he was having a heart attack we're joking around about it now but no one had any idea how serious it would be no one's clear to be clear we don't joke about corona it's very serious no no no no no we actually come in right now we have members who need a reforced layman without them for them we're thinking about them we're not joking my point is is back then even when we were talking about it nobody knew that a year later we would still be dealing with it with people being sick with so many deaths along the way with the quarantining with the social distancing with the masks coming up on a year rabbi gober what are your reflections on the year of kovit it's hard to believe i'll never forget the friday when we shut down the shul we actually were following bergen county took the lead my friends up in bergen county the rcbc get a lot of credit they were out front of this they had long meetings and consulted medical experts they took the lead they were the first to have the guts we looked at them kind of like what do you do shut down shules i mean his in history how many times have shules of a community been shut down by a plague it has happened but uh how often has it happened rabbi bro rabbi brody the shrier family are standing up for rabbi brody thank you he's just in 180 right now breaking news 180 okay breaking hold on breaking news that breaking news the head of the orb just because thank you levy thank you um so we were sitting in my office we were following what was happening in burn county we said not down here we're fine everything's good down here we're being careful we'll encourage people i think what we said was i think we sent out an email don't shake hands and we put out some purell and if you were no we said if you're over 65 we encouraged you not to come to show that job is that absolutely yeah that's what the weekly had said right now you and i have been going back and forth for hours if you remember even thursday night going to friday morning back and forth i don't even think we slept that night we were talking discussing that so much and then you tell the story you made the call what did we do right afterwards yes i'll give you a little bit behind the bema you should know throughout corona for last year we fluctuate so it's not even like it's one day or one hour in one minute rabbi moskowitz can be the let's hide under the bed it's coming to get us shut everything down and i'm like you know we can be careful and literally a minute later i'll be like are you crazy we can't do that you'll be like why can't we push the envelope and i think that represents you it's everybody we're all trying to figure out in a very confusing and navigate our way through very very complicated times so we met and we called the head of our local hospital and we called the head of another er and we said we need to understand if you remember a year ago the message was not about lowering the numbers the message was about slowing the spread so that the hospitals can keep up that was the original intent again i don't want to go backwards with that but that was the original intent and the head of the hospital said yeah if this thing's spreading it's going to spread like wildfire once it comes so please shut down you're going to save lives by doing it and we did so right before we sent out the email i think we were like seven people the staff was meeting we called three more men we went in the next room and we dive in the last minha in the shul itself what would be the last minute for many months and the last minion and then we sent the email out we shut down the shul and i i remember thinking we probably all said yeah we'll do this for a week by next shabbos two weeks max will be back i mean how long could it take this is the united states of america and look you know we've got gps and cell phones and face time and look what we're doing technology and medicine we have robots that do surgery you know we'll figure this out what's the big deal and here we are a year later a year later and i remember that minha was a very emotional minha and i said to you afterwards i said i finally have at least an inkling of understanding of what it must have been like as they shut the lights on the base i make dash as the base of my dish was being destroyed i remember walking out of shul that friday and you and i looked at each other and we thought maybe one two weeks but we really didn't know and it just it was an eerie feeling leaving the show behind and closing and locking the doors and it was very very emotional for all of us in the room i remember i'll tell you i i um i live right next door to the shul and i happen to have a key to the shul and throughout the duration of corona every single day that the show was closed down i diamond and chewel by myself it was not unsafe i was totally by myself there was no one here there could be no transmission you stood behind the dream impact of anything no and i did so i'm not i mean it's a luxury that i had i'm sure others wish they could have um because i was in in the show with the sanctity of a shul and noran kodesh i didn't do it taking advantage of a luxury i did it with a sense of responsibility the shul to me is like this dynamic it's of course an inanimate building and yet it has like a rhythm and a life and a heartbeat to it and the notion that it would be alone and lonely at one point i wrote a if you remember like an ode to the show this love letter to the shul of missing it and that really was we've all gone through in this year what a range of emotion that we've been through this year and we're seeing the impact of being shut down as anxiety spiked and all kinds of other challenges have spiked and there are a lot of unintended consequences and casualties and i'm not um blaming anyone or second-guessing policies um just acknowledging real real challenges that have come up and you know leadership again we're meeting and each time we host these meetings we can't believe we're still doing this because when we did the last one to prepare for yom narayan of course by permit will be over and then of course by pesach will be over and of course by the next it will be over and here we are saying what do we do with purim and what do you do with miguel cester on zoom and mishlochmanos and and we have not broached the pesach conversation now if last pesach you would have said you could do what we're going to do this pesach you would have been thrilled when i think about the fact that both my parents and in-laws were each a couple blocks away from us and yet had sater all by themselves and us by ourselves if we knew then what we know now of course we could have been together obviously very distanced and wearing a mask other than when you're eating and there would have been ways to do it and people wouldn't have to suffer with that intense loneliness that they did but we didn't know then what we know now and uh you think about pesach think about almost every shul in the world leaving our cell phones on taking calls from lonely members who needed someone to talk to visiting making sure that you were knocking on windows of a people who were alone just to wave to them and let them know that someone cared about them you know even we went through it it wasn't so long ago but even as we're talking about it sounds like such a crazy crazy times yeah and i'll tell you i'm i'm proud that first of all i think i've said and i'll tell you about 100 times tonight so if it were a donation for each time i said and i'll tell you we would have met our goal by now so i'm going to try to work on that um literally so literally yeah we've worked out the literally we've gotten there i'm loving the shreyer family right now good people and thank you to the anonymous donation as well that just came in please keep them coming be part of our global community which is the point i wanted to make we pivoted pretty quickly and i'm proud i'm proud of how quickly we pivoted we have a very robust program and we've been told by colleagues that uh presidents of their shul or heads of committee have walked into their office and slammed down our brochure rabbi moscowitz works tirelessly on it together with rob shore gives a great shout out to our graphic designer and and people have reported back to us rabbis that people have slammed and they're just saying why doesn't our show have this program we're known for we're proud of we worked very hard and we can only do it because of our supporters we have a very robust program from beginner intermediate advanced men women history halacha gemara every topic we've got entertaining social really really robust program it's our bread and butter it's the heart of our community and it was all shut down it was eliminated it was silenced and we pivoted quickly to go online and and we're proud we're proud of how much and how well we did that and clearly you're proud you're listening right now you found us and you found us either on on zoom or youtube or facebook you found us on twitter or instagram you found us on whatsapp uh we've got lots and lots of what's app groups with thousands of people on it and you found us and we're so grateful that you did because it's been a great ride learning together and to build a community together and what we're hoping is you see yourself as part of a community and that you'll contribute and it occurred to me how many people pay for streaming entertainment how many people pay for netflix and hulu and amazon prime and i don't even know the names of other services what is it disney plus now whatever else how many people pay for streaming entertainment you gotta contribute something to streaming torah one thing is entertaining your body the other one is elevating your soul so if you pay for a streaming service maybe match one of the services maybe just match what you pay for one of those services a year to uh to help us continue to stream our torah to join our community brs global we appreciate all the people who are and who are part of the community that we're building and we hope that more and more are going to are going to give as well you know it's interesting that you were talking about pivoting and innovating so i happen to listen to two i read a book and i listened to a podcast recently one of bob iger who's the former now ceo chairman of the board of disney and the other is with the founder of netflix and the common theme between both of those is bob iger said that the number one piece of advice he has for organizations is he calls it innovate or die he says if you're not always innovating then someone else is going to come or they're going to be threats to disrupt your industry and you got to figure out a way to innovate netflix when they disrupted the whole blockbuster remember blockbuster was a 6 billion a year company and netflix came along and they actually went to blockbuster they offered to sell themselves for 50 million dollars to blockbuster blockbuster said nope there's no business there there's no way you guys are going to be successful and obviously history has shown that disruptions do have in the industry so obviously our industry was disrupted right as you said we were closed down and we were forced to innovate and pivot and transition to a different mode of connecting to people you were really at the forefront of it i remember there was a tweet that came out very early on where someone said all the rabbis are just catching up to rabbi goldberg's use of technology but um but visit you know i think she'll general for figuring out how to navigate in a world where people aren't coming to their doors as much and they're used to more of a virtual online opportunity for learning and how do you engage people and how do you pivot to that new reality the only thing that i'm i'm just wondering the only thing that that that if you really want to make make a direct comparison to the television and netflix and all these other programs other than live sports and live news which you need to know right now questions does this need to be broadcast live do all the sharing that we give need to be broadcast live or could they be delivered once a week and anyone can watch them when they want to watch them like most of the viewers are going to be doing it on their own on their own time you know we're living now in an on-demand world does it need to be live so we're trying to do is both because i think there is an energy and there is an excitement and enthusiasm and a feeling of connection when you watch something live and you've seen that over the last year with all the zoom um singers and havdallahs and comedians you can go on youtube and watch anybody and it's free and you can do it and whenever schedule works for you and yet that's different than being part of a community who are watching live together who are connecting we're hearing it in real time so i think there's there's both and that's what the entertainment industry is doing is they have some things that are they they they um come out with it they debut it at a certain time and then it's available on demand afterwards which is basically what we're doing want to acknowledge the schweier's again this time in honor of cindy schreier yoni and jackie schreier in honor of cindy schreier schreier family call your cousins your distant cousins every relative you have schreier's keep it coming we can call this the shrine behind the bema for the right price ten thousand dollars to the josh brody fund over there and it's a big question that you're raising and i'll give you two examples so i sit on the um on the board of the orb which is our cash rest down here one of the largest vaticans in the whole country because palm beach and broward counties have lots and lots of restaurants caterers ice cream shops kosher supermarkets and the like we used to meet in person once a month uh and of course during corona we've met on zoom and we're all finding it so much more convenient you've taken you've eliminated all the drive time you've eliminated some of the downtime where you're waiting for people who are late and so on and zoom you can meet such much much more efficiently but we miss seeing each other and i assume everyone is supposedly multitasking but really it's another way of saying that they are very distracted they're not focused it's not giving me the full attention the way you are in the room so there's an upside to zoom but there's also a downside to zoom i'll give you another example we had meetings just today um i sit down on the menial of our based in for guerras a conversion based then and now we're having our meetings on zoom with candidates but you don't really get to meet and you can't necessarily read the person as well and they can't feel as comfortable or as trusting with the base than appreciating us and you know we met with a candidate today in puerto rico candidate today in central florida we meet with candidates who are all regionally local but not local local and there's this question is again much more efficient maybe it's easy to uh to just do it another shrine another schreier just made a donation under the name another shrine keeping it up with the note keeping it up shreyers i don't know how many relatives there are but the family tree we want the internet but i'll just add on to that as the presenter rabbi brody yeah it you can't compare it to being live like i you feed off of an energy even if you can't be the same we don't see the audience you know that's it's if you know that they're there there's a different energy there's a there's you bring it to you bring a certain different energy to the table i'd notice for me 100 that when i know there are live people they're listening even behind the bema there's a different energy that that you bring to the table i'll give you one more example which is so important every meeting has where the real business happens is the meeting after the meeting we all know that the executive board the board the committee and then you go to the parking lot meeting there's the meeting in the board room and then there's the parking lot meeting and then there's the business meeting after the meeting right and then there's when you get home and you start texting but the real meeting is the after meeting i met today with somebody who's in recovery 35 years clean 35 years clean the iron man you both know what i'm talking about hopefully he's coming out of the truck he's coming back to the community we love him 35 years clean he told me that the recovery community is struggling because there are many fewer meetings in person most have moved online to zoom and that's wonderful for the meeting the consistency of going to meetings which it's all about somebody who went through crisis when they hit the rock bottom 90 meetings 90 days that's the slogan that's the saying in the recovery world so 90 meetings 90 days you can't find 90 meetings in person and the problem is that it's after the in-person meeting when you sit down for the coffee you talk in the parking lot the sponsor and the sponsee that's where the connections happen so there's a lot of efficiency and productivity being created by these online but we're missing the energy the creativity the warmth the relationship the after meeting the water cooler moments the connections the conversations the breakthroughs that happen then and they're really really important they cannot be underestimated i'll tell you i said but like my mother he commuted hour a day each way into the city and found two hours back of his life every single day and is able to work in his house that's a dramatic lifestyle change so that's a big lifestyle change and a big question for rabbis i was asked to read an article about this but unfortunately my thoughts are not developed enough i'm not sure i'm qualified enough and i don't have the time to do it right now on the question of after corona what does adult education look like because this is intoxicating right giving a shear online where you watch the numbers of listeners and you're no longer bound by the people who can fit in your room or who can come during that time or who can make a geographic trip to your shule now anywhere in the world they could be joining and you see that number whether it's on zoom or youtube or whatever platform you're using it's intoxicating to be teaching people everywhere you don't get reactions you make a joke and you have no idea if anybody's laughing you can't read the room you're actually doing something i've never done in 20 years of teaching which is stare at myself the whole time i'm teaching but i guess i laugh at my own jokes so that helps at least positive reinforcement that comes in but so when this is over are we going to go back to exclusively in person are we going to remain exclusively online obviously the answer is some form of a hybrid but what will be the consequences of that hybrid will people who used to come in person take the more convenient way out of staying online will you really be talking to the people online or in the room what will be the consequences of trying to create that hybrid yes we will see no i mean listen obviously i think our members are going to want us to be in person i think a lot of them miss that human interaction i think a lot of them miss coming to the show seeing us as you said they're you know with the chilland and the whole environment um that surrounds not just the torah but the the experience of being in being able to you know engage with each other and being able to engage with the rabbis so you know i think it'll be interesting to see also the global community versus the local community it's possible that somebody i live with just texted i don't miss the after meetings at all it's possible that people we live with would know when a meeting ended my wife said she said she said since when are board meetings so short usually out for like two hours now like 45 minutes you're done i said yeah because i don't sit in rabbi goldberg's office and i'm not schmoozing with this person afterwards but as you said that's part of the whole dynamic that people are looking for that was the joke that went around is you know when we come home on friday nights we always say well that's when shul ended and then i saw her but fell on a friday the fast day on the friday and that's when our our wives found out what time shula really ends on a on a friday night they don't miss that afternoon whatsoever again a huge thank you to those who are members of our brs global community thank you for believing in us thank you for participating with us thank you for supporting and enabling us thank you for being stakeholders with us i'll tell you what i wrote about this week first drop in moscow it's what did you write about what inspired your article this week i heard about details the longer we go hopefully the more more shri the more shriners exactly i think i had triers in camp missouri i'm pretty sure that there were a lot of schreier's in campus or they should all give also um i uh i wrote about details in judaism obviously parsley is uh largely contrasted with parshas israel yesterday was the ten commandments ten pretty simple anyone can do it you turn to parshas mishbatum it's all of nazekan it's papakama it's detailed it's nuanced and it could be a little bit overwhelming and so i wrote an article about why the details in judaism are important i think it's something that certainly i know children teenagers many adults that i speak to really struggle with why does god care which shoe i put on first which shoelace i tie first how i wash my hands why are these details so important and so i tried to make a three-pronged argument for why the details in judaism are important what about you rabbi looking forward to reading that the three prongs of why the details matter we've all had conversation with countless jews to say i'm a good jew and i have a good heart and why do the details matter it's good enough does god really care about that so i am excited for you to arm all of us with a good answer to those questions looking forward to that rabbi brodie we prematurely ran the breaking news because it turns out apparently you only have one friend really please everybody where are people standing up for rabbi brody you're all sleeping right now you know what i'm telling you you'll see when they wake up this week don't forget they don't watch so late some some of these friends they're late they're watching tomorrow they're going to tune in they're tuning in from israel well they're going to be giving big dollars it is wednesday night and as of now rabbi brodie oh he's up to eight supporters for 558 dollars thank you my age brody's a thousand dollars no we're gonna break it first it's gonna be a surprise for cookies rabbi brodie that's true yeah i just ordered are we challenging you to bring in 10 grand ladies i think there is someone out there that will that will give 10 15 grand right 18 grand let's go for 18. put us at the top lottery winnings now again or no no no no there's one person out there that's going to say you know what i really think rabbit brody should be at the top of that list let's let him show rabbi goldberg and robbie moscow it's how we do it 18 grand put it at the top we're looking forward one bite so that's gonna be next week's quote that we throw back at him so i actually i wrote about this um i wrote about this subject which i'll see whether i'll publish it yet it goes to print tomorrow or whether i will get smart and regret it and not publish it but i found this a very very challenging week personally because when expectations are not met it can be hurtful and we in the rabbin and or any jewish communal leadership or any labor of love that you're emotionally connected to you take everything about it very personally so i anticipated we set this goal of a hundred thousand dollars and i thought to myself we're probably underselling it i mean after all there are fifteen thousand people a week on what's app groups and on classes and on behind the bema and reading articles each.com is picking up rabbi moscowitz and others i mean this the world is benefiting and and we get a flurry of emails and comments it's so gratifying it's so uplifting it's so meaningful the physic is enormous so i thought okay well if everyone just gives a small amount the numbers aren't complicated then we're going to do well and we'll be able to take our messages even further and then this week came and i'm beyond grateful to the people who've given us to we're at 32 385 257 supporters i'm beyond grateful from the bottom of my heart i thank you we're honored we're grateful thank you thank you thank you but i wondered where where's everybody else where are all the people and then we went through you want to go behind the beam a little bit this is the after this is the after meeting we're in the parking lot right now and the after meeting those who are staying on you're in the parking lot with us we'll go you want to go 2.0 we'll go behind the beam a little bit over here so you know we reacted by we i mean i but we reacted and we said you know what this is people's appreciation forget it we're going to make a member-only service partial class got to be a brs member you want to join uh snipper what happened what's app group i mean moscow it's just helium sheer you got to be a brs member only people who donate pay for play and then we said nah that's not who we are it's not what we're about we're going to continue to spread torah as far and as wide as we can we'll be grateful for the people who join and we'll figure out how to make up the rest so you know we we caught ourselves and we're not going to go that direction but probably mistaken taking it personally but here's the upshot of my article and then i thought to myself and i said you know what i'm no different than all these people why because i go on youtube all the time i use safaria.org all the time i use wikipedia lavdale but wikipedia all the time and you know once a year or twice a year i like to listen to my friend malcolm siegel formerly jm and the am what's it called now the nakhon single show the next eagle network former guest on behind the bema and i realized i go on all these platforms once twice a year there's a pop-up and it says wikipedia is free community-based if you benefit please do your part you know what i do x why are you torah i put my share am i listening to other shiram why are you torah would you give your part you know what i do x and i realize i'm no different than all the people exiting us out i'm no different than all the people who are like i'll take take take thank you thank you thank you oh you want me to give x and then i thought to myself why do i do that and i realized because there's a human i'm giving you my whole article but still worth reading i hope because i've got a couple great stories in there um great stories one of them a holocaust story so sorry to ruby brody's lecturer that he heard earlier this week and another another great story so i thought to myself why am i doing that and i think it's part of the human psyche to feel you know what someone else will cover it someone else will pay for it someone else will take care of it and what gives us the ability to say that it's the anonymity of the internet in other words why you torah's not looking at how many shiron goldberg's listening to asking me a donation and then i say to an actual living person no and hang up it's just the anonymity of being able to x out so first of all i got one on these platforms and made my donations because i learned from this so i learned from this campaign i learned a lot about people but i also learned a lot about myself and i realize i'm no different than others so i have no right to be disappointed in others any more than i should be disappointed in myself i'm trying to correct it for myself and i hope other people will correct it for themselves too to say to ourselves that and i connected it to mahrez shekel this week is pasha shkulam the first of the four special readings we do why does the torah have to say every jew or every male 20 and up but every individual has got to give a half shekel and and the rich can't give more why not let the rich cover the whole thing let the poor save their money to put food on their table and let the rich who it won't make a difference it won't affect their great-great-grandchildren let them cover the communal sacrifices let them cover the upkeep of the basement of the temple let the rich cover it and let the poor we're really in the after party here and let the poor uh let the poor save their money and i i'd like to humbly submit from the lesson i learned this week i think what the torah is telling everybody is you want to be part of the community cough it up cough it up spoiler i'll tell you how i start the article and then i'll i want to hear your reactions i started and i said if somebody found your credit card statement and reviewed your credit card statement what would say about your priorities if they found your credit card statement would what you're spending on match what you say you value so you're spending it on netflix but nothing on brs but you claim that you love brs and you value the learning you get from brs and it's not just true from brs dailygiving.org thank you again to our sponsor do you give stuka through dailygiving.org or some other mechanism of giving stucca but if somebody found your credit card statement and reviewed it what would it say about your priorities and your values about what you really care about and so i learned a lot this week as i say about people and about expectations i learned a lot about myself wow am i going to regret this tomorrow maybe a little bit yeah editing are we editing out the end of behind the beam no no no we're leaving it in it's uh i think people appreciate your honesty and your candor and seeing that uh rabbis are normal people and i look forward to reading the article and and gaining from it and benefiting from it and taking us from it so thank you can i clarify we don't we're working hard on this campaign we don't get one piece of commission or percentage or one penny more for the money that's coming in it's not for us personally obviously we are salaried and the shul takes good care of us it's actually just saying thank you to the members of brs the members of brs enable us to share our torah with everyone else so shouldn't others have to carry their weight and do their part it doesn't come to us so you know i'm not driven or i wasn't hurt or feel unappreciated because personally we're going to suffer as a result it's the mission it's the cause it's we don't have the ability to bring it as as widely or as loudly or as well the torah of hashem hashem's timeless torah that's all we are our whole mission is to be marbie for mind we give our heart and soul to just try to inspire others to lead them towards a more mindful and meaningful jewish life that's what it's all about that's what we're all about that's what we're trying to do and we just need people's help in order to be able to do it and there's one other part to it if we're going 3.0 behind the bhima should i show the one other part well it depends what that part is i'll just i'll just throw one thing in while you decide whether to go there which is of course the the you know you said cough it up everyone on their own level every amount is appreciated if you could do one dollar you do one dollar if you can do ten dollars you ten dollars if you can help robbie brody get to 18 000 you help probably get go rabbi brody get to 18 000. but we're enormously let me tell you you get me 18 000 every level next week it'll be to josh brody featuring uh some other people on the show next week yeah i'll get i'll get a 10 minute spotlight get to 18 000. 18 000. i'll have mayor will have her new program too right exactly we'll have a good time let's do it come on someone out there just one person let's just acknowledge the new uh new um partners who have come in with great appreciation first of all philip and sharon vidal flash back to the you trip to germany rabbi moscow it's in your honor rabbi who appreciates extraordinary work there's no such thing as a small show rabbi unless it's a short guy but there's no such thing as a small rabbi a small shulkama rabbi or a small show rabbi is that like a five-foot rabbi or a six-figure nothing wrong with the five foot rabbi thank you for that generosity for a rabbi to dig deep into his pocket we really appreciate that we've got uh jeffrey our great ceo who's been working tirelessly jeffrey thanks for all you do uh by daniel and nurit who miss jeffrey from staten island down here in boca he got wise he brought his talents to boca raton michael seltzer thank you so much for your generosity and your sponsorship keep them coming we're going to keep the show going as long as people keep it coming this is like a filibuster and it's like a philippines my wife just came out and said you're not done yet it's funny she assumed that the show is over and we were just kidding around now right no right one second i just i just became aware of who that small shoe rabbi is and it's not a small shoe and he's not a small rabbi he is huge and we appreciate everything he's doing to spread torah and teach torah and all that he does for us who it is what does his name rhyme with let's do that can we always do that i am not going to play that game because he did not want his name mentioned but we're appreciative to him and to all those who are supporting our our mission rabbi brody when we're still waiting for someone to volunteer to help you write up your outreach inspiration we do it well we have someone i just have to give them a story it's been a very busy week but uh we do have someone that has volunteered i can't wait to uh have this ghostwriter just put down some of these great thoughts and um we're gonna get that happening we got another one in we got another one in and this is a person who has just published a new book and not just because he made this donation in general i would mention his new book because he's a cousin of mine rabbi david bashevkin dee bash thank you rabbi now the truth is if rabbi double mashem really appreciates what we do and he really wants to come on behind the bema then he would tweet out about the brs global campaign brsonline.org slash global you know what he best rabbi schefken have you heard about his new book that's coming that's out top five top five someone just sent me a book by the way i just got this book in the mail morality rabbi dr uh jonathan sachs yes rabbi saxophobia lord sachs all of us lord sacks it is still so hard to believe that he's not here it's impossible to believe that he's not here and how bereft we really are without him it is tragically said but uh cousin david thank you so much for your sponsorship it really really means and we're grateful rabbi bashevkin like the gemara applauds those who entertain and put a smile on other people's faces beshevkin leads the way with his top five list which were always fantastic and which we missed sorely but now you can have them combined in a new volume i will tell you that i hit a personal record not a personal record one of the editors of mishpakha magazine called me the cal ripken jr of mishpacha this is the longest string of of um what are they called magazines weeks in a row magazines issues are you on the cover episode no no no if this is an episode those are issues the most amount of issues in a row with letters to the editor still about that about that subject so wow truly was a monster of a topic i listen i uh i met today in boca by chance not on purpose a wonderful guy i really liked him he is the shahrun of base madriska bmg in lakewood another friend of behind the bema rabbi aaron cutler was a guest on behind the bima how many boys how many young men do you think he represents in shidduchim 720 that's a lot 3 200. he represents 1 300 boys in shidduchim wow 1300 is huge he's got a file on 1300 he set him up so he shared his feedback with me about the article mostly agreed some disagreements but it was really great conversation he's a really great person and i was happy i was able to meet with him he told me you know he agreed one thing that most people agree with is how ridiculous the pictures in the resumes of shidduchim are how absurd what you can't capture in a picture he told me an example a story was a great story that he had a guy come into his office and he takes a picture of them for his own file 300 guys you got to remember who you met with so the guy is quiet and shy and introvert and looking down and it was hard to get him to say one word and he said to him just smile for a picture so the guy had this huge smile and he said if you'd look at his picture you would think that this guy is the life of the party the most charismatic person the most outgoing person the biggest smile just from his picture and you would have absolutely that's a total total misrepresentation of what his personality is like that's how little value these pictures have so he agreed with me in the pictures but it was it was good to meet him he'd probably be a fascinating guest it would be an interesting guest on the topic of shidduchim maybe we'll do one week on shidduchim and bring on him and a frat zabalovsky of you connects and a few others and we can talk about shidduchim and go behind the bhima right and the monster among us and speaking of the yeshivas i i went to a leviatha today with chef del neuberger from the hell of uh passed away unfortunately just last night from where the early this morning from kovalev tell us about him i think it was i was looking and i i found the flyer that he that that we had probably about 12 years ago when he came down here for the nearest chavez we did we did a shabbos with us young israel and rabbi gibberish where different russia yeshiva is from the yeshiva came he darvened he was known for his dauvenic i think there's one thing that i could i could say that that that i knew it wasn't my rebbe his brother was my rebbe but uh i remember when i first came to the yeshiva in 1995 it was right before the yamana rhyme and i remember my roommate said you got remember i was coming from niriakov right so that was my that was my my rosh hashanah for two years and now you come to shiva's hundreds of guys and i remember he said you you wait till you hear of chef till daven and i'm i was like what do you mean what does that even mean it wasn't it wasn't just watching his personal dominating i mean no he left he was the and his voice it was just it was like like a like a canon it was so powerful and um even on the lava today they were talking about how he was actually i mean in different senses of the word but how there's so many of the of the the talmidim from the yeshiva that are now all over the world that anyone who knew rafcheftel's davening and they hear any of these guys leading davening in yemen or i'm in any show in the world like they'll say that that's where that's his nose that says it's like taking off you know all on its own so a very special person he was yeah community leader way beyond yeah maybe the family were known for caring you know we spoke about earlier like the state of israel the new burgers of nativity stroll always cared about chloe israel not just near usral right not just the jews of baltimore but really were involved in and cared about jesus they were across america and and beyond we got a couple more generous members investors stakeholders in the brs global community first of all the rebbetzins rabbi mosque is this just come out of your in my bank account yeah it's in honor of no more after meeting meetings now come home that's great man that's great and our dear friend adam austin keeping spreading the aura of torah thank you so much the austin family we love the austin family and we appreciate that generosity and that and that support so yeah the newberger family are our you know uh royal jewish family and different mid legends legends in baltimore in near israel and and well beyond as well big tragedy and then to see let's say the mashikiyak got up rabbi white sport he got up to to be you know to give his husband and he just lost his wife right a month ago to corona yeah so it's it's like so it's such a tragedy yeah lost i'll tell you what while we're talking about shidduchim and i got a package in the mail last week beautiful food package with a bottle of wine who said this food package where this come from it's a little card i open the card and i read the card it says there you have it an ephraim i actually have the card hold on i'm going to read to you the card right now except that my computer shut down before but i'm going to read to this card the the card basically was it was their 20th anniversary and we were involved in making the shidduch and they sent us this gift they said we couldn't celebrate our 20th anniversary without acknowledging or thanking us it's connected to my article that i wrote about being grateful even when it's not expected or demanded or no one would notice if you weren't that's where gratitude kicks in so let me tell you about the this is a great of story i'm not mentioning their names but it's a great of story yoga gets all the credit for most of the good things in my life almost all all the good things no i don't have to come home so um yeah i'm just gonna talk to my wife my wife apparently doesn't care if i you know yeah so jacob saw this great this guy and this girl she saw it there are a couple stories like that of people she saw she saw it she convinced them you got to go out they both agreed they went out they went out once or twice and they said no what do you mean nah i'm telling you you're going to get married yeah but we're actually the people dating and we don't see it no no but you're wrong you're going to get married you belong together you're going to get married you're wrong they said no we're good we don't see it so a number of months went by and you have like aaron cohen listen to this move she pulls she calls the boy and she says yeah the girl wants to give it another try if you're game she'd like to go out again then she calls the girl and she says the guy wants to give another try if you're game he wants to go out again so each of them you know heard that the other one wanted to give another try and said yeah i'll give it another try happily married many kids celebrated their 20th anniversary and in the card they acknowledge thank you for basically making us go out again and so she saw it she saw it so clearly that she pulled that move and uh and now they're happily married 20 years later and it means the world to us that they thought of us on their anniversary who who said that didn't you you gave a drush about this once about a goo guy hey i remember oh the guy is but i'm purposely keeping an anonymous but about someone who received a scholarship from a university and years later when the person was in a position to donate back to the university they made a donation and the university said like why are you donating like you've never had you know years you haven't been in touch and the person said because years ago you took care of me i want to be able to pay back that favor um and that's exactly the gratitude that we're talking about that is and that's the notion of gratitude gratitude when you have to pay it as a debt is not a big deal because you had to pay it as a debt of gratitude but when no one knows so if you benefit if you listen to brs shirum and read articles all day long but nobody has a way of tracking or knowing that so you say to yourself why do i have to give why do i have to show gratitude that's when the gratitude counts and the gratitude is for you for integrity and uh humility and so on rabbi i brought you this justin you do have another friend you're thinking you'd think that after the new deal he signed with satellite radio he could have given more than 36 dollars but we nevertheless we nevertheless express our gratitude to howard stern there you go how do you like united i would also like to clarify apparently the rebels donation was a joint donation from we're still going strong as long as people are listening and they are battery on the airplane we got a great crowd who are still with us so i don't know people really need to get out a little bit more and get a life but if you're still with us we're going filibuster baby we're going all through the night this is this is a 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bowls everybody's invited and encouraged make sure when you come into stop chop and roll mention i don't know if you'll get a discount i hope you can but you mentioned behind the bema sent you pokeballs delicious i will say if we had if we had behind the beam of swag the yes there's no question we're making that was another question that we asked is if we made behind the beam of swag what would people want very interesting answers some wanted masks someone wanted a baseball sweatpants i wanted a fleece somebody wanted to sign baseball very interesting answers we've got the shrines just keep coming it's unbelievable first of all david suss cpa and family accountant my accountant thank you so much for generosity in josh's honor thank you rabbi josh broder for joining our super seium david oh there we go that's right i said i made it up i love the sus family you guys are so great i didn't put it past you and we got another one from steven schreiber not a schreier schreiber steven schreiber thank you for your generosity appreciate everybody's help and everybody's support you guys ever try a pokeball what do you like in your pokeball are we talking about food right now we go back to food we we started it one of the earliest episodes was about food and our wives were having none of it yeah they were not loving those early early episodes are they on the show are they recording of course they're all on youtube we do okay to me the key of any good dish is different flavors in your mouth at the same time different textures and different flavors so hot and spicy right like those types of dynamic plain in my mouth that's the key to any good dish all right one second here's where we get to the part where my two co-hosts have zero credibility one is a vegan and the other is a not a major eater let's just say i don't want to say anything i'll regret saying so neither of you have any credibility in the area of food but i do agree i like mixtures textures um you like something to bring the heat also have some sweetness some acidity right also be uh what's the other word they say savory savory savory is a good one but what's the word when it has um here while you're thinking of that let me ask you guys a question because again i'm big on this big bob iger kick disney bob iger said that he's not a big eater doesn't eat any carbs whatsoever gets a 15 every morning but he says is one thing he travels around the world herbaceous it should be herbaceous spacious that was it nobody says rabbit he says the one thing he can't withh withstand is pizza he says he could be anywhere italy tokyo chu anywhere in the world he looks for the best pika pizza he needs to eat the best pizza what is your kryptonite food rabbi goldberg everybody knows i'm i'm not shy about it first of all trader joe's corn chips killer killer and and cape cod 40 reduced fat kettle potato chips you know if you eat the whole bag then the 40 low fat you want to go really behind the bema cape cod kettle potato chips dipped in some osm ketchup delicious what delicious what d where do you buy oats and ketchup delicious is that like leftover from pesach no i'm the only person in the world most people bring heinz ketchup to israel every time i go to israel i bring a suitcase of of ketchup back i love israeli ketchup wow israeli ketchup is more liquidy than american ketchup no no israeli ketchup is tomato like tomatoey and it's much sweeter it's much sweeter but we're going to start to get the yank again from our wives they don't want us talking about food so let's leave off the food although i did have to say herbaceous again just because i love that word herbaceous i still can't get past cape cod potato chips and oh some ketchup yeah you don't have a go-to snack rabbi what's your go-to snack so you're going to laugh at me you're going to laugh at me i happen to love apples like i could eat 10 apples a day i love apples i love that again what kind what kind of apple oh so it can't be first of all it has to be red i don't do the greens certainly like the real green i find them tart it's got a good juicy red one and i don't know arya goes to the store she brings home the apple i think they're from ghanaian they're delicious they're succulent they're juicy and um i could eat as many apples a day as possible let's put a little peanut butter on it put the peanut butter on it and you got me apple dipped it what about you hummus spicy extra spicy hummus my go-to but i found out something very interesting today what's his name seth seth warshaw he's the he's the big chef in our community now you know he's a near jake guy yeah hey you didn't know that first of all let's show some respect to chef gersh he's one of the big chefs in the community now i know i'm just saying you know uh thank you to andre jacobovitz a former student at yeshiva high school of mine many many moons ago thank you andre for your generosity and support anonymous donation that came in keep them coming boys we love we love him a second who did andre give that in honor of him he was also a student of mine someone just joined our campaign hasn't made a donation but someone joined our campaign if you look at the home page is it it's not on the homepage yet okay i don't want to reveal it yet but there's a there's a big donation coming in soon okay we're looking forward is it 18 000 i see it no she's confused it might be the same person who joined behind the bema before she was supposed to join because she didn't know how the internet worked she just joined as a team member of the campaign who doesn't want to be a one-upped by mrs moskowitz my mom's very competitive my mom loves her son that could be what is this what are you doing robert share with us what you're doing for inspiration right now tell our listeners you're trying to keep yourself going each day are you learning is there is there an area of learning that you're working on that you're doing a personal practice that you have what are you doing to find inspiration in your life yes there's a few things actually i started listening to you know i'm an audible guy so in fact i even mentioned to this one guy on the phone he told me about this book that just came up by rabbi lord sacks and i said oh it sounds like a great book i downloaded it but i'm in the middle of listening to round two of this book that just came out by tony robbins and i love this book i love it i'm telling you the stories he's telling you and people say ah these you know one of these guys just listen to the stories the stories are great stories they're very very inspirational you just i just give you one one example i'm not gonna tell you the story but he gives an example of where he helped one person like he really really helped some and it's nothing that any one of us couldn't have done but the point of the story was he was lucky enough to see the result and what happened after that person was helped and he was actually lucky enough to find out what happened next to the person that that person helped and what that person helped and the stream and it literally turned into something by helping one person there was an example of where thousands of people possibly more were entitled we were inspired and touched but i just want to tell you one one one exciting thing just comment on that lord sacks that's all we miss so terribly yeah yeah in his book he talks about the chaos theory the butterfly effect of virtue that's right and exactly that notion chaos butterfly effect says that if a butterfly flaps its wings in uh singapore it'll create a hurricane in florida and that's it's been proven yeah it's beautiful so the ability for one person to start something and there's a chain reaction of events that happen i love that and there's another exciting thing that uh simone and i are going to be taking a trip to maybe rwanda we're not sure if it's going to work out it's kind of a crazy place to visit but if that doesn't work we are we just don't know remember there's a chabad of right right we will check it out but if that doesn't work we actually have an alternate trip that we just launched right now for for public school or non-yeshiva private school boys and girls teenagers and the price including airfare for almost four weeks in israel is twenty two hundred dollars so if you wanna go you know someone's gotta you know teen in public school or a non-jewish private school let us know we will uh we will be going to israel this june that's incredible amazing incredible let me just before i turn to europe moscow because i want to hear what you're doing for inspiration i just someone brought to my attention i won't say here that rabbi rabbi brudy started plugging rabbi sacks in the middle of my plug from my cousin dove beshevkin's new player on the top so let's come back to that again his wonderful new book uh five get a hold of it you will be entertained inspired you'll laugh you'll cry you don't want to miss it is it on audible uh is it on audible it's a god it's a good we should record it d bash rabbi bashevkin reading the top five that would be a great audible a great audible series we are at gentleman we're at 33 wouldn't it be amazing to be able to end the show tonight at 35 000. let's get to 35 000. if you're still listening and there's a large number of you still listening so that means you've been either entertained you're either laughing with us around your sleep or you fell asleep you fell asleep with your phone it's funny you say that a couple years ago remember i did a conference call with a therapist on a very um sensitive subject and people could dial in anonymously so i was waiting i wanted to get the results of the conference call so when the conference call ends you get an email from the conference call company telling you how many people called into the conference call and find out was this a success we had a very sensitive conversation on a really important topic and i really was curious did people really call in or not so we hang up five minutes go by there's no report 20 minutes go by is no an hour goes by there's no report so i'm trying to figure out what's going on it turns out that one of the people listening fell asleep with their phone on and the phone was still connected to the conference call through the night no it never ended so i didn't get the email till the next morning because one person still had the conference call as if it was still going on throughout the night it was it was really amazing so if we could ask our listeners everybody do your part who could do the math quickly thirty three thousand four thirty nine so we're short about fifteen hundred fifteen hundred and sixty one dollars is what we wanna raise so are there sixteen people give a hundred dollars sixteen people listening to give a hundred dollars are there 32 people to give 50 i'm impressing you with my meth oh here we go mrs brody has donated so my sonny boy doesn't feel knocked down thank you mom all right funny boy sonny boy mrs goldberg you're up my parents are still asleep my parents are fast asleep um but anyway thank you can i just tell you something all those i was on thank you mom i was on a conference call one of these zooms late in the afternoon already it's like exhausting and i was sitting outside it was a nice warm day and i'm telling you i dozed off in the middle of the zoom and i was trying to figure out if they saw that you know like do they know and i was like oh my god i can't believe that just happened you know what i just literally you know what i just realized where all the money's going yeah atari and colleagues.com people are confused it's going to the wrong place anyway i hope our listener is going for all my supporters are going yeah we're going strong we're as long as you stay with us we're staying with us right moscowitz we're really behind the beam by the way we have almost 100 people still listening type in right now in the comments let us know what you want to hear us talk about go behind the with us yeah what do you want in our lives what do you want to know about it what do you want to know about communal leadership let us know what you want to know this is your best shot we're going to talk about it right now what are you doing right now for inspiration i want to do this right yeah go no no no that's going to ask us right we go we have another keeper under that keeper that's all i want to know no no no ok robbie moss what's going on i have i've always said and we've spoken about this in the past that uh that so much of my life and the balance of my life is decided before eight o'clock in the morning right i always say that the more i accomplish earlier in the morning whether that's exercise whether it's reading whether it's learning whether it's hispodedus whatever i'm able to do early in the morning the earlier i'm able to do it the more inspired i am through the day the more energetic i am today so i'm i'm working on it i'm in on an early morning kick of of trying to get as much accomplished in the morning as possible and and again for me that the three kind of pillars of that are always going to be exercise um learning and uh and a little bit of reading i find reading enormously therapeutic for me as well reading is fundamental there's no question about it how about you rabbi goldberg who knows that reference um it was just brought to my attention by prody and i'm going to try not to fall off my chair later mrs brody made a donation in honor of sonny boy but she forgot to credit it to rabbi brodie so it does not go to his total it says it does not go to his total he is still stuck and therefore you might want to get me to go back in we need a technology consult from mrs brody technology consult for mrs brody in aisle four we've got to have more listeners you know thanks for sticking with us we're having a good time tonight we're letting you in we're talking about our lives we need your help you're not doing it for us you're doing it to help us be instrumental in mouthpieces to bring hashem's torah to the world this is a one-off thing right we're not doing this again next week this campaign it's a this campaign is is yeah yeah so people should know right this is not a radio yes global brsonline.org global this is your channel please please do your part we really appreciate it get us get us to 35 000 tonight just get us 1500 more that one person one person could give 1500 we have a few people who gave 1800 so one person could give 1500 and then you can all go to sleep otherwise you have to stay with us and we must continue this so matthew miller my good friend asks what are the top books that we read in the year 2020 what are the top books of 2020 that you read what books moved you the most were the top books that transformed you in the year 2020. that's good well for me for me that's that's easy edith eager's book the choice was one of the most profound moving thought-provoking books i've written a really long time her story i wrote about in an article a story about the holocaust really incredible stories of survival and then more importantly her mindset after the survival her notion that we choose you can choose how you react to life circumstances you can't choose the life circumstances so for me that was definitely far and away the most inspiring book i read in 2020 how about you rabbi goldberg powerful 2020 or 2021 because 2020 was so long ago it's hard to even remember did a lot of reading in 2020 because during the shutdown the lockdown yeah more time more shabbos and yantevs than we ever had but um tried to read safarum and take out a little more learning projects and and read some books also i'll tell you 2020 i actually don't remember but i was reading a book called the infinite game simon cynic is that how you pronounce his name yeah yeah the notion of the infinite game it's kind of a takeoff on um on seven habits the the notion of um win win versus win lose lose win and so on so the finite game has to have a winner and a loser the finite game has a finite ending and there's a winner and a loser and the infinite game is all about the cause it's all about the mission it's got me thinking a lot in fact i read it over one shabbos and in my mind it was a problem for me because i read it over one shabbos and in my mind i thought of a whole book i want to write based on that book about the brs philosophy in the infinite game the movement our values what we're trying to create and by the time showers was over i couldn't take notes on anything i had been thinking about and that ended up being a problem i wrote some notes but by the time it was over it was it was lost on me so um funny i remember someone recommended that book to you and told you that that's going to make a great job of shuvers russia now that you're telling me the premise i totally get it i understand it they did yeah it was very powerful very very powerful rabbi brodie what are you listening to which book yes i got i got my books right here i listen to uh and these are long books it takes sometimes 14 hours to get through a book so it's a couple of you know weeks for me but i listened to jim cramer's real money great book i listened to it was really good i'm just telling he's i i'm a big fan of jim cramer i listened to this famous book which i never listened to before everyone told me about it's called how to win friends and influence people by dale carnegie classic yeah a really really good book and um should i tell you it's that great article that he modeled that after of destler's principle right it was actually the opposite direction but i mean desolate right yeah rav destler modeled the whole piece after after that and that was reported by his student robert carmel that wasn't just conjecture it's amazing what's forum any sparring in 2020 2021 that entered your library that have really inspired you and moved you i mean i'm doing the daf i'm doing it i mean for me that's a lot of right now i mean i love doing it yeah yeah was last week what was that that was like that chock full of uh taruvas that was good that was good stuff in smith's cover we had a story rav yada share stories with us that uh that we use and we repeat from actually our neighbor and friend by the frame shapiro in north miami where an older person was in his shul and told him the following story that he was in the hungarian army before the hungarians were invaded by the nazis and they went to a town that used to have jews but was yudengrein and they was off from the army went for a walk around town he hid the fact that he was jewish always hit it his life would be at risk and he went to the market and in the market there was a gemara and a person who was selling plums you know the way you wrap fish in newspaper each person who bought a plum or plums would rip out a picture of the gemara and wrap the fruit in the page of the gemara and give it to the person and his heart broke he wanted to go buy the gemara but he couldn't reveal that he was a jew take his life into his own hands if he did it so he refused to do it but he went and he bought a plum he had to sell the watch he was winning to have the money just to buy a plum he bought the plum gave up his last that jewelry that watch was the thing that would have kept him going was the only commodity the only thing of value that he had and he used it to buy uh daf gemara and he bought the plum the guy ripped out the page of gemara i think it was brachosta and uh immediately he ran away opened it up got rid of the plum folded the gemara and put it in his pocket ultimately the nazis invaded ultimately he went to a concentration camp the man survived and he was able to keep that daft gamora with him throughout the entire holocaust and that daf was his death he learned that he read it he memorized it and that duff he couldn't rescue that homosexual gemara but he took that daf and what that meant for what it represented for him such a powerful story so every person learns or uses is is a new safer it's a new uh there's a new a new gemara any news forum for you rabbi moscow it's a new genre first of all we heard we heard we heard an incredible story you and i were emailed an incredible story about a person who uh passed away over the last couple of weeks from brs and uh the person told a story that this person sold a piece of jewelry in order to ensure that their child had a jewish education to make sure that they could stay in the school and um again i found that incredibly inspiring and and again these are the people they don't get uh necessarily the fanfare but uh these are everyday heroes doing incredible things to we're tolerant to perpetuate it for the next generation so i remember seeing that story it was incredibly inspiring um for me yeah it's the daf um when we were in israel last year i bought a safer on hasidus on the parsha which which i enjoy every shabbos that's something that i enjoy learning i enjoy preparing from i'm still going through tanya working my way through slowly trying to understand it and to break my teeth over it it's it's amazing you know because i know we're not allowed to speak about chabad anymore but um you know carbonics are introduced to that language at such a young age but for us who didn't grow up in that world it's a totally new vocabulary it's a totally new language to be speaking when you're going through tanya so it's definitely something i've enjoyed it's opened my eyes to an entire the new way of viewing things and viewing the world and i continue to find that incredibly inspiring i agree with you i i learned to avocab centennial with the bataal girl we learned the parakeet we're up to today um rabbit tagar who has translated and published so much that comes out of khabad we're very fortunate he lives in our community to learn tanya with him but tanya should not just say has told us several times that when he looks for inspiration he goes to tanya the rav learned and knew certainly from his youth in haslavich new tanya probably by heart so tanya is one i've gotten very into ravichamer morgenstern so his farm and i have a dear friend not mendy mukhersvaram but mandy who's gives me matanos aswaram my good friend mandy every visit he brings farm he just brought me this is coming out this is the preview of it which is the beyond shabbos kodesh so for me i'm in a shabbos phase a major shops i shouldn't say phase i hope it's permanent part of my life so i'm really excited about that i've really been i've been loving and this form of review review shalam the son of the josh mordecai who is a tamar khalvera of regan kanyevsky which are his drush i've been using it in my partial sharing every week for the last several months he also has a satisfaction whose name is escaping me at the moment also organized in the parasha but lumdas it's like a little chabura on each parasha and it's amazing it's neatly organized neatly packaged and i've also been introduced the last couple years i got a gift from my friend ishai bane of one of the year mawadim of ravi roham olshan one of the russia shiva of lakewood are outstanding really well organized and clear and fantastic and i've really really been enjoying them so this farm also doing the daf obviously and whatever other responsibilities but taking on this farm all right we're going to start winding down but we do have a question that came in a text someone who says they're not sure to comment on youtube but they want to know what do the rabbis do to veg out what do the rabbis do to relax that's the question that's come in again if we could get to 35 000 we would love you so we have 1461 dollars to go anyone wants to write a check fifteen hundred dollars stucca it's uh my sir we would uh consider you a great partner any any shrines left out there i love it but maybe maybe maybe dailygiving.org wants to make another allocation to help help us wind out but while while we're waiting for that last person to come in is going to bring us up to that number um rabbi brodie what do you do to veg out music and play guitar i love it i play playing a lot of guitar now listening to music i love listening to music i don't know i just love it i love it i i find it uh relaxing i find it inspiring and um i you know it's interesting i think now with with itunes the way the way the way uh music's become so much more accessible um you you find the music that you really really enjoy listening to so much easier i mean you know what it was like for us to back in the day to find that one song and now now it's now it's right there it's amazing and it's you know you create these nice nice playlists and and you can actually find playlists of people that have your same taste so it's easy to find also you hear that song and it's it's interesting you could listen to a song that maybe you haven't heard in 20 30 years and it brings you right back to that play you remember exactly where you heard it transports you musically yeah it really does that's so powerful jewish tradition the levium would sing with the carbonaro right music is elevating and it's it's transporting and it takes different places it's very very powerful so you like listening to music and also playing music yeah you only knew how to play the guitar recently i remember you taught yourself guitar because you you felt like it would be a great addition to your life it was and uh certainly helped vishinantam and some of the other programs we've done but but i i look forward to the day when i can have a little soundproof studio bring a drum set back into it really bang on the drums uh that's that's really a dream i i miss it so much i missed i missed the drums it's just hard to play when you live in a house and you you know people in the house and you have neighbors i don't know how you you're supposed to do it your neighbors rabbi moscow's you're not allowed to say running what other than running do you like to do in order to veg that's my thing running in reading those i saw you this morning unpredictable and it's not i know you make fun of my running for me it is the greatest way to clear my mind it is included for me it is um i love it i love being out in the open i love certainly early morning where we brody saw me out there early this morning um there's something very special when you're out there and you're watching the sun come up and and it's it's really um it's a really spiritual experience for me running i love it very much in reading again in addition to learning obviously but reading in particular i find there's a special beauty in losing yourself into a book to losing yourself into a narrative it's a great way to distract me from everything else that's going on in the world part of the challenge for me is finding a good book right i mean you have to go through a couple until you find one that sticks but when you find that one that sticks you fly through it and you're transposed into a different world because of it and um i love it i love reading and that came later on in life i wasn't like that as a child at all reading is great i like that comedy i've spoken about this before i love comedy you've been with me in a car before corona on the way back from a funeral or something sad i find comedy is great escape laughter is the best medicine hazal endorsed that when they knew that the badhanam the people who made people laugh had the greatest helicopter and the comedy laughter is a great medicine so i love laughing i love laughing i love escaping through comedy i love laughing and that's one of the things i do to veg out i also like reading tennis you and i have played tennis i love tennis i used to love basketball and play all kinds of sports but then i got old so now i love tennis and uh we got a ping-pong table during corona i noticed that in your kitchen we got a ping-pong table mostly it's when my son-in-law comes that we're able to really my daughters are great ping pong not knocking them they're learning they're growing but the epic ping-pong matches really come more um so that's a great way to a great way to veg out also all right we are at two hours and 12 minutes i will say do not have a new appreciation for these guys who get on the radio or on tv every single morning and do a three four hour show great for a year mike and mike and mike in the mad three four hours every day on the radio on tv talking engaging they have some commercial breaks right they can think they can use the restroom in between but it's it's still it's an incredible feat now i have a new appreciation do you remember that naftali bennett was on this episode i thought that was three weeks ago first of all to believe he's awake when this comes up in someone's podcast player tomorrow and they look and they're like two hours and 15 minutes 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