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Rabbi Michael Fuzaylov - Life After Life
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okay so today we're actually talking
about a very interesting topic which is
actually one of my favorites it's uh
it's Life After Life and and what's
interesting is that really if you if you
think about the concept of a Muna belief
in Hashem belief in the Torah the fact
that that there is a God and that he
gave the Torah and that the entire you
know everything we do is is basically
written down in the book as we're going
to say in Roshan about exactly one month
by the way everyone it's a nicer shallow
this is
what I forget thank you so if you think
about that you're going to have an
interesting question which is
it's all really based on one thing
what's it based on
the fact that you're doing its vote and
that you're having connection touch and
it's based on that there is Hashem
obviously but the second thing is based
on is the fact that there's an actual
afterlife
which is an interesting assumption that
you know that we tend to make some of us
and others don't make that assumption
and hence but I would say eventually say
anybody who actually fully believed in
an afterlife would really live their
current life very differently would you
say differently
make sense feel free to speak back I
don't mind
um so yeah so the the life is if
everybody if we knew for a fact that
there was an actual afterlife we would
live this life very differently we would
eat every you know every action would be
different our whole lives will be
different
and obviously
the
you know in a sense that the tour is
really premise on that aspect as well
that there is a life after life and you
will be getting reward and etc etc
and the problem with this is that how
can you prove that there's a Life After
Life right it's a little problematic
because you'd have to go there and come
back
so that that's a problem you know most
people don't come back
um
except interestingly enough there have
been
started being more recorded cases of
situations where people have gone to the
next World or something similar to it
and I see not people nodding heads here
uh then they've actually come back and
that's the more interesting part because
most usually we think hey if you go
there it's a one-way ticket you're not
coming back
no
when that does happen when you do hear
about these things they're actually
called nde near-death experiences when
you do hear about near-death experiences
where a person says oh I came out of my
body I went to such and such a place as
sotaki erosnik I saw such relatives at
this that so
there's a couple of problems
one problem is a how do you know they're
not lying
no religious figures come back hey no
it's funny Judaism is the only religion
that's based off of not meaning every
other religion is based off one person
coming back and coming and saying hey
God gave me this amazing book I had an
amazing Revelation let me share it with
you oh and of course I'm gonna be he
told me I'm gonna be the leader I said
no but he said yeah okay so you know
every other religion is based on the the
uh the revelation quote-unquote of one
person Judaism actually doesn't believe
in that in Judaism there's a concept of
national Revelation where God comes and
says to all our ancestors that receive
the Torah most of you know many times
and story says hey you heard you saw it
wasn't me
it was God you know that for a fact so
in this case where we're trying what
people talk about ndes near-death
experiences
when they do discuss talk about it and
we're like hey that's amazing that's
proof that there's an afterlife that's
great problem number one for most people
that are thinking and don't you know
jump into conclusions is how do we know
they're not lying
right good question problem number two
is
how do we know any scientists and
anybody with a medical background right
away will tell you that's nice I'm so
happy you had a nice dream which
basically means like that's so nice
your brain plays tricks on you meaning
you can explain it in an evolutionary
sense you can explain any and a
biochemical sense your brain was you
know was having a fun time releasing
endorphins and everything else to help
you soothe you through the very
traumatic experience you were going
through
that's the other problem with these
experiences when the person goes through
such experiences they're usually asked
they usually told hey you know how do we
how can we not account how can we you
know take that out of the account that
that's not actually what happened
so
in
these types of situations in the United
States at least and I'm sure all around
the world were like if you start talking
about hey I died and like I came back
type of thing like I had when we say die
by the way we mean literally means like
no signs of life no breathing no pulse
no brain activity nothing
that's what we're talking about so
pre-1975 the entire medical in the
medical community it was taboo taboo
basically means like like you don't talk
about these things just certain things
you don't talk about death was taboo if
you spoke about like medical
professionals were very hard had a very
hard time talking to their patients that
were terminally ill meaning somebody
who's not going to make it at a very
difficult time talking to them because
like what are you gonna tell them
like see you later like I would like
it's over like it's it's hard it was
hard to talk to their patients that were
terminally ill in 1975
nothing changed
people were still having near-death
experiences and
one thing changed there was one doctor
who in America was a psychiatrist also a
PhD in philosophy family Dr Raymond
Moody he came out and said hey I'm
hearing a lot about these cases
happening for my patients and other
patients instead of just saying yeah you
had a nice dream let me actually
document it and see is there a what you
call a
say a common denominator behind all them
similar experiences let's see if we can
document it and actually to some degree
scientifically say hey this is real or
hey this is not real so in 1975
Moody actually published this book it
does you know it looks purple but like
this is just a cheap copy I bought I you
know I had like five of these books
probably okay a little less and I gave
them all out and I'm looking for my
house like hey I know I have one of
these books though where is it I find
this little one that I probably bought
for five dollars on eBay that looks
yellow is probably from 1975 itself so I
had no choice but to bring this one but
there's actually very nice copies out
there on Amazon and they're very they're
not that expensive like 12 bucks or
something so in 1975 he publishes this
book without all the Sparkles he
publishes this book and the entire
medical community goes nuts because you
have the for the first time
at least to my knowledge you have a
medical professional a doctor in
Psychiatry coming out and talking about
hey my patients are having these and
these types of
um experiences
and I documented it and let me tell you
why it was real so when he did that it
was a big chapter today
after this book was published many more
people started coming out about
near-death experiences and today it's
almost like
you'll see it everywhere near-death
experiences you'll see on almost every
single whether it's times you know times
Time Magazine wherever any big
publishers
any big
radio stations anything TV stage
everyone's talked about at some point
near-death experiences
pre-1975 pre Dr Raymond Moody over here
never talked about
so he was basically the pioneer
who basically changed the world in this
nothing else changed people still
haven't seen my new experiences the only
question is somebody came out and said
hey let me take that first step and say
let's see if there's something here that
we can actually work with so what
exactly isn't near the experience
sorry in this book he actually um it was
about
he probably he published a documented a
whole bunch of different cases and he
basically showed certain similar
similarities between them and said look
at all these experiences
they were all had this similarity this
similarity this person came this
religion this person came this religion
this person came this this person came
with this type of scientific knowledge
this person had no scientific knowledge
and they all have one com consistent
common threads okay let's first talk
about what exactly is a near-death
experience how do we Define a near-death
experience near-death experience is
defined by I think I've mentioned
already
your body is technically dead meaning no
Vital Signs nothing happening no pulse
no breathing nothing
the best types I mean best like that was
the best time to gauge for a near-death
experience is is a cardiac arrest
Cardiac Arrest basically means you're
not breathing and because of that your
heart's not so your heart's not meeting
and because of that there's no Oxygen
supply going to your brain and within
about 20 seconds or so after that
happens your brain the cerebral cortex
which is I think the front part of the
brain which is responsible for memory
reasoning logic thinking
um decision making emotions everything
that basically makes us human is gone
offline shut down
that means in that part of the brain
there are no
brain activity
you do not remember anything means
you're not gonna have a dream because
you're not thinking
you're not smelling anything you're not
you can't see like even if you open your
eyes not seeing anything and even if any
of that happens you know that happens
there's no memory storage no like full
storage like it's not recording any
memory
so that is what is
um that is what what happens during
cardiac arrest
and more specifically it also happens
one more time actually which is
when you're under NS well we'll leave
that alone for now but so no imagination
no dreaming
and
when people start talking when they come
out of this and they start talking and
they're like hey I had this experience
so that doesn't usually like okay it's
nice interesting
but this doctor was like Hey that
shouldn't have been happening because if
you're having cardiac arrest you
shouldn't have been dreaming you
shouldn't have been imagining you
shouldn't have been remembering anything
so let's talk about what how people
actually describe
near-death experiences
it's a little bit
everyone okay
yes
so let's talk about how people describe
near-death experiences
let me just check
okay
so there's a couple of
different parts to a near-death
experience
the first part of any good good
near-death experience is where you
actually leave your body now everyone's
not going to have the same type of
near-death experience you'll see
differences but you'll also see many
similarities there's different levels so
near that experience one level is just
hey coming out of my body that's so cool
or a little freaky I see everybody
then there's a next type of
of uh level but first let's talk about
the first one so a good example of this
one is he brings up here on page 35 of
at least this Edition
a woman says
about a year ago I was admitted to the
hospital with heart trouble and the next
morning lying in the hospital bed I
began to have a very severe pain in my
chest I push the button on the side of
the bed to call the nurses and they came
and started working on me I was quite
uncomfortable lying on my back so I
turned over as I did that I quit
breathing and my heart stopped beating
just then I heard the nurses shout code
pink code pink I didn't realize it was
pink I thought it was blue one okay as
they were saying this I could feel
myself moving out of my body and sliding
down between the mattress and the rails
I felt like I went through the rails and
down the floor and I started Rising back
up slowly on my way up I saw more nurses
running into my room there must have
been a dozen of them my doctor came in
and I thought hey I wonder what he's
doing here I drifted up past the light
fixture fixture I saw it from the side
and very distinctively and then I
stopped floating right up below the
ceiling looking down I felt almost as
though I were a piece of paper that
someone had been blown up to the ceiling
I watched them Reviving me from up there
my body was lying down there stretched
out on the bed in plain view and they
were all standing around it and I heard
one nurse say oh my she's gone while
another one leaned down to give me math
to math resuscitation
I was looking at the back of her head
while she did it I'll never forget the
way her hair looked it was kind of cut
short just then I saw them roll out this
machine and they put the shots on my
chest and when they did that I saw my
whole body just jump right off the bed
and I heard every bone in my body crack
and pop it was the most awful thing as I
saw them below beating my chest and
rubbing my arms and legs I thought why
are they going through so much trouble
I'm just fine now so the first level of
experience of a near-death experience is
where the patient comes and says
I came out of my body and I could tell
you clearly what was going on in that
room
I can tell you what you were doing I can
tell you what you were doing some
patients I've read even have had more
than that they're able to tell the
doctors and nurses and staff what was
happening outside of the room as well
another example
the doctors and nurses were pounding on
my body to try to get IV started and let
me and let me and let to get me up
and I'll I and I kept trying to tell
them leave me alone all I want is to be
left alone quit pounding on me but they
didn't hear me so I tried to move their
hands
to keep them from beating on my body but
nothing would happen I couldn't get
anywhere it was like I don't know what
really happened but I couldn't move
their hands it looked like I was
touching their hands and I tried to move
them yet when I would give it this when
I would touch the hands
my hands would just go through theirs I
didn't feel any pressure whatsoever
so this person was trying to it was and
these people came back that's that's the
how we know about about it happening
person what you would see like in a I
hate to say like in a ghost movie like
it's not really a ghost but like their
spiritual self trying to he doesn't
realize he's not physical they don't see
him other places he describes people
saying
people just walk through me I'm like
what is going on
I guess so
the next level is actually so this is
one type of level the next level is
where you get to not just being able to
see outside of yourself I mean outside
of your body and seeing your body and
everyone else in the room you actually
also get to see other people that have
that come to visit quote-unquote you
people that aren't
no longer alive so here's one example of
that
I had this I had this experience and I
was giving birth to a child the delivery
was very difficult and I lost a lot of
blood the doctor gave up on me and told
my relatives that I was dying however I
was quite alert through the whole thing
and even as I heard him saying this
and even as I heard him saying this I
felt myself coming back too as I did I
realized that all these people were
there almost in multitudes hovering
around the ceiling of the room there
were all people I had known my past life
but who had passed on before I
recognized my grandmother a girl that I
knew from school and other relatives and
Friends it seems that I mainly saw their
faces and felt their presence they all
seemed pleased it was very it was a very
happy occasion and I felt that they had
come to protect me or guide me it was
almost as if I were coming home and they
were there to greet or to welcome me all
this time I had the feeling of
everything light and beautiful it was a
beautiful and glorious moment
interesting okay so there's actually
a another action example in the gemara
about this the gemara says I believe
in the fourth paragraph the gemara says
that when I think when he was dying
he said to them bring a chair for his
King hiskiah who's coming to escort me
now his skill was a king that had lived
probably 600 years before
he was telling them I see his coming to
escort me bring a chair for him sort of
like we bring a chair failure to Brit so
so you see this already in the gemara
now the next level is where not only do
you see yourself from
from that angle but
and seeing others as well and I'm just
again I'm not gonna go through the
entire book I'm going through quick
portions of it the next level is where
you actually come to the uh the state of
what they called
the being of light the next level is
when you actually reach whatever
everyone else pretty much calls it a
being of light
and they always the consistent
description here is that it's a
beautiful white light
that is very bright but doesn't blind
you and is able to you're still able to
see around
you're still able to see or everything
around you
but even though it's just a light
you feel a presence inside the light and
you just but you don't see anybody
he
the
there's actually a lot over here written
on it but I will just I'll summarize
parts of it in that
that the being of light that
consistently you talk about many
different people in this documentary
constantly said that I felt extremely
good being in his presence
I felt wholesome I felt tranquil
and it's
and this the funniest part was when I
was reading this was that these are
people from all types of backgrounds
some of them were atheists so they
weren't exactly expecting you know any
type of being of light to be around them
I'm going to read you a couple of
examples
so it says right here I knew I was dying
and there was nothing I could do about
it because no one could hear me I was
out of my body and there's no doubt
about it because I could see my own body
there on the operating table my soul was
out and this made me feel very bad at
first but then this really bright light
came it did seem that it was a little
dim at first but then it became this
huge beam it was a tremendous amount of
light nothing like a big bright
flashlight but it was just so much light
and it and it gave off heat to me I felt
a warm sensation
at first when the light came I wasn't
sure what was happening when they asked
me
if I was ready to die
it was talking like a person but there
was no person there
now I think that the voice was talking
to me actually realized that I wasn't
ready to die but it was actually kind of
testing me more than asking me
ask me or do you think you're ready to
go yet from the moment the light spoke
to me I felt really good secure and
loved the love which I which came from
it is just unimaginable Indescribable
and you'll have this consistently over
and over again people who have met this
being of light constantly displayed this
feeling of warmth and and and love
and uh there's actually
such another one I was hospitalized for
a severe kidney condition and I was in a
coma for approximately a week my doctors
were extremely uncertain as to whether I
would live during this period when I was
unconscious I felt as though I would
lifted right up just as though I didn't
have a physical body at all a brilliant
white light appeared to me the light was
so bright that I could not see through
it but going into its presence was so
coming and so wonderful there's just no
experience on earth like it in the
presence of the light the thoughts the
thoughts of words came into my mind do
you want to die and I replied that I
didn't know since I didn't knew anything
about I didn't know anything about death
then the the white light said come over
this line and you will learn I felt that
I knew where the line was in front of me
even though I couldn't actually see it
as I went through across the line the
most wonderful feeling came over me
feelings of peace tranquility and
Vanishing of all worries
another another scenario I had a heart
attack and I found myself in a black
void and I knew I had left my physical
body behind I knew I was dying and I
thought God I did my best with what I
had please help me
as I approached more closely I felt as
certain that I was going through through
this white light and it was is such a
wondrous joyous feeling there are just
no human words in the human language
describe it
yet it wasn't my time to go through the
slide because instantly from the other
side I appeared my uncle who had died
many years earlier he blocked my path
saying go back your work on Earth has
not been completed go back now I didn't
want to go back but I had no choice and
immediately I was back in my body you'll
see this many many times that these
people describe that they wanted to stay
with the light they did not want to come
back they were very happy with it
of course right okay we all know that of
course now
the say again
none of my jokes the
the next step is after you already come
out of your body you have the outer body
experience some people get to the next
step of actually seeing other people and
speaking to other people
many describe this white this being of
Light which again to them I read one
account where a woman was brought back
to life by a doctor and the doctor
describes she like she afterwards she
started yelling at me to get out so I
was like okay whatever I can leave her
alone she's not feeling well I came back
later and she was still upset me I said
what did I do wrong I saved your life
she's like why'd you bring me back
I was having a good time I should have
left me there
okay this is I read an article by Dr Dre
was I was I was laughing
um
and it's funny these people once they go
to that experience they view not just
life differently they read death
differently as well where they're like
hey you know I'm not scared of going but
simultaneously
you also don't want to go because this
you know you'll see in a minute
the next step is what they call the
review the review is where
people
are spoken to by this white light and
where they start
being shown
there you know at the end of my life
flashed before my eyes well in this case
it actually does where people say that
it wasn't just it wasn't just
you know like oh my life flashing from
eyes it was I was able to see my entire
life going through in an instant
many different parts of it where I was
able I was seeing in three dimensions
I felt the emotions I felt at that
moment some were just pictures and some
were actually like video playback I was
able to feel my emotions at that moment
and emotions of the people around me
and what's interesting thing is that
many times they have this the white
light speak to them and they say
was it worth it somebody says these
words was it worth it
and he says what that meant was that to
me was I understood was not that you
understand you see what you see
is it worth it the life that you were
living until now
the best part about it this applied
across the board to Jews Muslims
Christians atheists what anything you
want is there
okay
the
let's just see one one example
did I Mark that off
yes okay the the other very interesting
part
is actually
in these things the the people described
that several people describe that
throughout showing them the images of
their life
the being of Life Light would constantly
point to one thing that what's important
what they were trying to teach them was
to how to love other people
in situations that it will stop reassess
re-evaluate again this is happening in
in earthy moments a second or two
because you can't keep the body without
life for too long you just don't come
back because over there at a whole long
Magilla whole long explanation of
everything that's happening so let's
take a look
when the light appeared to me the first
thing he said to me
was what do you have to show me that
you've done with your life or something
to this effect and that's when these
flashbacks started I thought gee what's
going on because all of a sudden I was
back early in my childhood and from then
on it was like I was walking through the
time of my my very early life on through
each year of my life right up to the
present
now I didn't see I didn't actually see
the light as I was going through the
flashbacks he disappeared as soon as he
asked me what I had done and the
flashbacks then started and I and yet I
knew that he was there with me the whole
time that he carried me back through the
flashbacks because I felt this presence
and because he made comments here and
there
he was trying to show me something in
each of these flashbacks it's not like
he was trying to see what I had done he
knew already but he was picking at these
certain moments in my life and putting
them in front of me so that I would have
to so that I have to recall them all
through this he kept stressing the
importance of love the places where he
showed the places where he showed it
best involved my sister I have always
been very close to her he showed me
instances where I had been been selfish
to my sister but then just as as many
times where I had shown her love love to
her and I shared with her he pointed out
to me that I should try to do things for
other people and to try my best
there wasn't any accusations in any of
this though
when he came across when he came across
times when I had been selfish his
attitude was only that I had been
learning from them too he seemed very
interested in things concerning
knowledge too he kept on pointing out
things that had to do with learning and
he did say that when I was going to come
back that I was going to continue
learning and he said that even when he
comes back for me
because this time he told me that I was
going back there will still be a quest
for knowledge he said that it was a
continuous process so I got the feeling
that it goes on after death
very interesting two parts I take out
from this one part is that this being of
light in the flashbacks kept pointing
out that very important principle in
life is love
loving other people and the other
important principle was
very many people come on
learning thinking learning
was a very important part and he to the
degree that he says that I got the
feeling that it goes on after death now
anybody know what that sounds like at
all
so I'll tell you what that sounds like
to me to me that sounds like two things
that we have one
what's the cloud god of the Torah what's
the the biggest principle in Torah
love your friend like you that you love
yourself
what's the second biggest principle in
the Torah
yeah
principle is
learning Torah is compared to all the
other menstrual so you have two
interesting things that the Torah
seemingly stands on which is
seems and we know the gamara tells us
that learning Torah continues on
after you live leave this world as well
take particularly specifically for men
when you leave this world it's the next
world is called Yeshiva shall maladi
Shiva up above that the learning
continues on to
to
um
to the point where the gamara asks well
if you have children that unfortunately
passed away when they were young still
where they never learned in your Torah
they didn't learn where are they going
to be learning this from the Quran says
that Hashem himself is their teacher
upstairs so it's very interesting
there's this non-jewish person seemingly
it's like I don't get it what's this big
deal about knowledge it keeps stressing
about love and knowledge not even
upstairs you're going to continue
learning in the next World what's going
on but to us it seems oh that's what the
gamara's been talking about the whole
time
the next thing is that that
there's a consistent description is that
like I mentioned before that people
don't want to come back once there's
been this experience people are so
you know it's funny I can't find the
words for it but that's what exactly
people say that what they experience
over there there are no words in this in
our vocabulary to actually describe the
experience that they did like our
vocabulary is limited right and what
we're able to express
and like I mentioned that lady that was
upset with the doctor because she's like
why did you bring me back
and what's even more interesting is the
fact that
that the Torah itself also describes how
do you describe gun Aiden besides the
learning aspect is the being close to
Hashem is the pleasure in itself in the
concept of the Torah is that the what is
the reward that we get
well the word mitzvah
Mitzvah right literally means a
connection
that you do because you're doing the
will of Hashem it connects you to Hashem
so for every Mitzvah that you do every
time you want to do what Hashem wants
you to do you're connecting yourself to
Hashem and what happens is that itself
is the reward
says the reward of our Mitzvah is the
Mitzvah the Mitzvah is that connection
to Hashem what you're going to be
feeling upstairs the pleasure that
you're going to be consistently feeling
is that can I'm close to Hashem now and
they all describe I didn't want to leave
this being of light because it was just
so good next to it so the same concept
that you see in the Torah that it's the
actual close the reward the pleasure is
the actual closeness to Hashem we here
are sitting we're we have physical
bodies these physical bodies
much like this are like you can they
prevent us
just like a wall prevents you from get
from what's on the other side it
prevents us from feeling what
spirituality really is the real reward
is that closeness
that's exactly what it is
and that's why anybody who has this
experience like I don't want to go back
I've read many instances over here of
women not wanting to come back they were
giving birth what not they it was like
this has been before the seven before
1975 so it was long ago so people dying
and like I don't want to go back I'm
good here I enjoy it I love it I don't
go back and like women look down like I
have children I can't leave them thank
goodness for the women strong women the
men were like nah I'm good women were
like no I have children I get it's so
good here but I need to go back I'm
responsible people good people
so the next aspect is really the what
happens what's the last part you had
this amazing experience what's the last
part of this whole experience you come
back to Elijah and you're like oh man
okay but you have the script what is the
Next Step no not like what's the next
step well you wake up
and you know you sort of catch your
breath and you have you start looking
around you're like oh my gosh
and you start talking to people you
start talking to your doctor and you
start talking to others and guess what
happens
they don't believe you but that's on the
better side on the not such better side
it's they actually make fun of it
many a times people describe that the
reason they don't
talk about their near-death experiences
is because when they did open up about
them
they just didn't people were just
laughing meaning not laughing straight
out but like making jokes about it
and therefore people very much
you know it's a very I guess in a sense
traumatizing but like very personal
experience
it's very hard for to open up when
you've seen others like joke about it
and
what's interesting is that these
near-death experiences go across the
board you have children adults
scientists doctors nurses religious
figures atheists people from across the
globe
stemming from thousands of years ago
till today
all describing the same type of
experiences you have you have books
going back from Tibet
that describe the same exact experiences
you have to go you have the gamara talk
about the same type of experiences you
have many other works from thousands of
years ago or for recently describing the
same type of experiences
and out of they took a poll out of a
thousand people that had near-death
experiences 95 of them said it was
definitely real four percent said it was
most likely real and I think about one
person was like nah it wasn't real okay
and now the best part is when you have
the skeptical scientists and skeptical
doctors which by the way they've become
less and less of the more resistance
and the best part is when they
themselves have a near-death experience
so you have doctors who are like nah
this is all I don't know they all try to
explain it they first try to explain it
by saying it was a dream they couldn't
do that because not dreaming at that
point
cerebral cortex out you're not dreaming
there's no brain activity nothing no
memory nothing so then they try to
explain it differently
finally there's one big one Doctor Who
was very much against near-death
experiences ended up having a near-death
experience himself and he came back he's
like oh my gosh I was wrong and like he
wrote a book he goes on he started going
this was like
this is not too long ago a little over
10 years ago I started wrote a book
Proof of Heaven and he goes off and he
starts talking on all these all these
channels about yes it's real it's
actually real for years I was fighting
it
um
it's not the real question is how many
people
have had near-death experiences
that's the real question and now
you might be surprised so I was like
okay you know probably 0.1 percent of
the population so really it's somewhere
between five to ten percent of the
population which is a shocker because
that means sitting in here five to ten I
mean sitting in here we have over 20
people right that's at least five times
that means one of us which was five
percent should have potentially had any
other experience I see people smiling
why do people smile uh potentially
having you know that's nothing you know
death experience not at first he
actually writes over here that is about
10 of the population based on his
understanding and I was like
really okay
but then I saw a news World US News and
World Report found that
at least
15 million Americans reported
having near-death experience that means
that means not like 15 million people
only 50 million had it I mean 15 million
people reported it that means you have
at least a
you can imagine how many more that
didn't report it
and
you have
now Scientific American is one of those
very nice uh scientific journals whose
uh one of their
their board board of advisors name is
Christoph Coe
Koch he's a chief scientist of some sort
of company he's the board of advisors of
of Scientific American he says an
article today about him he said
near-death experiences are not fans
fancy flights of imagination they are
real
now
having 15 so when when I read that
original I was like Wow five to ten
percent of the population having
you know
these experiences it was like
I don't want to ask here man which one
of us personally have had it but I
wasn't so watching a call I wasn't so
convinced by that I was like okay that
kind of killed The credibility of the
book in my head and then a couple little
while later I found out my own my uncle
one of my uncles I'm gonna say which one
one of my uncles he actually opened up
about his own my mother actually had
told me that oh your uncle had a
near-death experience I'm like I'm sorry
what yeah years years ago I'm like how
come I never knew about this like I was
alive I never heard about it so he just
keeps it away on the down low I said
really so apparently when his father
passed away he had opened up about his
near-death experience
now this Uncle is
he's a religious individual in the sense
that he's very traditional
he believes in God what I say he's
religious in the sense that he keeps
Shabbat definitely not at that point
maybe now but
um in in the traditional sense of
keeping Shabbat I don't think the hawk
sense I don't think he does
even now but and he's an individual who
when he was in the Soviet Union he was a
I believe a chemist
or a physicist
to the degree that he worked on top
secret projects that he stood to this
day can't reveal to us even not as much
as we beg them to come out we're not
there anymore he's like you know who's
listening right
and he when he came here to the United
States
NASA saw his name on you know people
were passing through they knew about him
because he got a knock on the door
saying would you like a job
with NASA he declined because he'd have
to move to either Boston or Baltimore or
one of those and he didn't want to do
that but imagine imagine I didn't
realize that so he describes his
near-death experience when he was under
anesthesia he had to go through under a
procedure and he was going on the
anesthesia and he says that
he saw himself coming out of his body
now again
serious scientist not exactly religious
in that traditional I mean in the hug
sense
I came out of my body
said I saw myself leaving planet Earth I
said to you later
said I look up I see a world that I've
never thought was possible colors that
don't exist
he said he said I think he said flowers
vegetation just don't exist here
everything was so good I felt so amazing
and I was like oh my gosh
I wow this is where I want to be now
this man loves his family
more than you can imagine
like his sons his son his daughter his
wife
completely like best husband best father
incredible individual he says I looked
down and I saw my family it would be
very very sad and disappointed if I
didn't come back he said I didn't care
he said it was so good I wanted to stay
badly
and he said
like
others in this book that as he was like
settling down like I'm ready
because he saw his grandma
's come to him he said what are you
doing here it's not your time get out
and She chased him out with the schwabra
She chased him She chased them out
and said next thing I know the doctor's
smacking my face to wake me up because I
wasn't coming out of anesthesia
so I said I said why didn't you tell
anybody this why don't you talk about
this come on
and he said because when I did mention
it at first people started snickering
and laughing a little bit I felt very
uncomfortable I stopped talking about it
so last year's you for what that we had
for his father
I asked them to get up in front of
everyone and actually tell it over they
were shocked
so here you have a wonderful example of
the thing that I guess everything else
rests on is hey you know we talked about
in previous weeks is there God can we
prove it
okay the next part is hey is there an
afterlife can you prove it and it's not
something you should take my word on or
anyone else's
it's about 15 million people in the
United States and it's not just the
United States there's
every single country they're making like
a database now of near-death experiences
in all languages
and thousands and thousands come in
consistently people constantly talking
even from China until they realize that
they're sending emails to outside of the
and they just block it
there's a very strict policy over there
no near-death experiences
um so so you have you have
it's not one witness not two witnesses
it's you have at least according to the
Scientific American U.S sorry U.S news
and
that there's over 15 million people that
reported near-death experiences and the
point of Dr Moody's book was to show
that
it's not a it cannot be that it was just
imagination imagination doesn't work in
that state
especially when the best part is when
you have both under general anesthesia
and on the cardiac arrest supposed to
have nothing happening and if you have
Cardiac Arrest during a general
anesthesia just have nothing happening
in your brain at that point if a person
at that point is then
having something going on they're
talking about some sort of experiences
it wasn't clearly was not the
imagination no imagination was working
for two reasons over there
so you have millions of people
describing it
questions
oh I was waiting for that question can
you repeat the questions everybody hears
that
um
I'll tell you a very funny thing so Dr
Moody here says that when he just
published the book a lot of his friends
I think
I remember which sect of Christianity
was I don't want to say the wrong thing
especially if I'm on camera but he says
that his friends and co-religiousness
came up to him like
your patients are lying I said why it's
because you because they're not they
don't believe in whatever they believe
in and they're saying they had these
experiences they're all condemned to
hell they're not having they're supposed
to have these experiences you're lying
so he says back he's like
I don't remember actually what he says
but my answer back is very simple it's
because
in Judaism in Torah there's no such
concept oh
you only go to I guess Canadian if
you're a Jew there's no such concept
there's different levels in gandhidden
but the fact that non-jews get to have a
certain portion in of Olam Haba the
mishnah actually says
all the Jewish people have a portion of
the world to come
there's a couple of commentaries in
particular about yourself says I get why
does it say call isael all of the Jewish
people why don't you say is
call yourself all the Jewish people all
is encompassing also the righteous
non-jews as well so in the Torah there's
no such concept of oh you only get to go
to Omaha they only get to Canadian by
the way
as an aside what these people are
experiencing is not the next it's not
the world to come the way the tourism
that's gun Aiden that's like the waiting
room of the souls the world to come is a
different concept that's after mashiach
comes but right now what they're
describing is like Heavens I guess like
the corridor to Heaven's waiting room
again
question answered anyone
so interestingly enough he's he says
that
by most people after they go through
such an experience they're never the
same again
I read an article where one woman was
saying basically that
it destroyed her marriage life why
because her husband who had this
near-death experience came back such a
nice person that she was not used to it
she couldn't handle it
I was like okay
all right I don't know what to say I
guess you want to jerk fine
um
but yeah they they do describe a lot of
change that happens people don't come
back the same from these experiences
they don't necessarily come back again
it didn't sound like from that at least
that the voices telling them
that's not what happened that's not the
goal of every person the goal of every
person is to live a righteous life
and it kept stressing go do for others
love other people help others do for
others
any other questions
and you said the righteous like non-jews
but as a person who doesn't believe in
Hashem righteous how could that be a
righteous person it's a great question I
wish we weren't on camera right now
maybe we'll just edit it out that's a
great question
and so here you go
everybody has a different point of of
free will because everyone has a
different point if a person was born in
a not religious home or in somewhere in
I don't know where
so their level of Free Will is very
different than yours or mine where we're
expected because we know certain things
expected to act differently if a person
was complete Ashan doesn't expect a
person who never had the opportunity to
be righteous to actually be righteous in
the sense that we would judge it hence
the only judges really Hashem we can
never say oh you're righteous oh you're
not righteous you don't know what Hashem
is expecting them we don't know what
life's what what lifestyle meaning what
you know what they had access to and
what I shouldn't want them to have
access to and what Hashem is expecting
of them
that leaves it for the actual judge just
not us questions other questions I'm
open to questions
I love questions no questions okay
that's it