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Rabbi Mordechai Kraft - Parashat Vayigash
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Okay. So, let's take a look over here.
We're going to speak about Joseph today.
And uh continue to speak about Joseph.
And the question that I'd like to raise
is a question of forgiveness.
The question, did Joseph forgive his
brothers? That's what I'd like to uh
see if we go through a little bit in my
own mind.
You know, I mean
it's a difficult challenge I think about
it to forgive
you know, brothers who uh
you know, when you were 17 years old,
took you and and and sold you into
slavery.
And uh you know, basically
threw you out of family and they you're
gone the next
separated from your family for the next
22 years.
Now, of course, Hashem is working into
Hashem's plans obviously because
that you know, Hashem turns it all
around that it should be something which
is which is very good and and ultimately
so necessary for the salvation of the
world, you know, to stop the famine and
to, you know, bring on the destiny of
Klaal Yisrael.
But the question we want to deal with on
a somewhat human level
is it possible to forgive if someone
does something like that to you? That
that's really what I'm trying to
to get at.
Can you forgive if someone harms you
like in that way?
You know, and this is really a
discussion of forgiveness.
And is using Joseph as as our model.
Is it possible?
Okay.
Good.
Okay.
So, you know, the place to begin this
session really
is with the Rambam.
And the Rambam says something very
interesting. The Rambam says you know,
that
there is a way to evoke tshuvah. Tshuvah
means repentance. But a way to evoke
repentance to forgiveness.
You know, whether you're trying to evoke
Hashem's forgiveness or or whether
you're trying to evoke
the forgiveness from from a human being.
So, how do you do that?
So, it has to follow
a certain formula.
What's the formula?
The formula is you have to turn to
Hashem, you have to turn to another
person,
and you have to say the following words.
You have to say "Chatati lefanekha."
Which means literally means I sinned
against you. I hurt you.
And there's to be a subject, there's to
be an "I" mean an "I".
There's to be a verb.
I misjudged you. I
I I uh
was wrong. I didn't I I I hurt, you
know, I said words that hurt.
You know, I I uh I spoke badly about
you.
Whatever what whatever it is.
And you have to say you have to say it
was I.
And I hurt you. And then it requires
that formula, "Ani chatati lefanekha."
And that's exactly what we say on Yom
Kippur. That's the formula of Yom
Kippur.
It works with Hashem and it works with
people.
But, you have to say those words. There
has to be the acknowledgement of what
one did. There has to be the
vulnerability
where one says that yeah, I really I
really did hurt you. You know, I I I you
know, I misjudged you.
And I'm sorry. I was wrong. You know,
and the fact that we say those words
where we say it's the I,
we acknowledge what we did. We
acknowledge the other person's feeling.
We acknowledge I did it to you.
So, the Rambam almost calls it like a
magic of teshuvah that
Hashem or another person could find it
in their heart to forgive.
Now, I'll I'll give this little
explanation why I think that that works.
It's because, you know, who are we
really in a sense? You know, we're
really
in many ways changing constantly. You
know, we're suddenly aging. You know, we
look at ourselves pictures 5 10 years
ago. We notice changes in ourselves, you
know, maybe a year ago, 2 years ago.
We're shedding skin cells daily. You
know, our whole I think we shed our body
weight and skin cells over over skin
cells over a certain period of time.
And we're also growing and changing
spiritually. And change spiritually
means that when we wake up in the
morning, we're really new creations.
And who we are is really a function of
of of what's going on in our brains, our
minds, our hearts.
And and it's changing always. It doesn't
stay the same. We're working on
ourselves. We're
we're improving.
And
the main way we improve and change is
when we regret the past, so to speak. We
regret that which we did which was
was not correct.
And when we do that, there's that regret
demonstrates that there's a new I and
that new I therefore
Hashem says, "Okay, you're a new I. I
give you a a new lease."
And and another person says the same
thing, "I You're not the same guy as
yesterday. I see that in you."
And and therefore I'm willing to give
you, you know, to go forward with the
relationship because
of of the regret. I see a new person in
front of me. And but there has to be
that regret. There has to be those words
of I hurt you. You know, I I I I spoke
cruelly and those words weren't thought
out. I was wrong to say that and how
could I say that to you?
If if one acknowledges, expresses it,
says it directly to the person, there's
room for the other person to find in
their heart to forgive.
So, the question I want to deal with is
did Joseph forgive his brothers?
So, let's take a look at I want to take
you through through something which I
think is extraordinarily
um
fascinating to me.
And the way we're going to take a look
at it,
we're going to switch parshas.
And the other parsha is Vayechi, which
is
exactly where we're
holding right now in the Torah. This
parsha is Vayechi.
So, listen to this. I'm going to just go
through the steps of this last scene
in the parsha, this last scene between
Joseph and his brothers.
This is really where the parsha is going
to end and just before
Vayechi begins.
So, I'm going to take you through it
over here.
What happens is
is
that when the old Yaakov dies
Rabbi, could could you call out the the
book and chapter so we can
Sure. Yeah, sure, John. So, we're on in
Vayechi, Genesis,
we're on um
Sorry, that's
chapter 50.
Do you see
that chapter
chapter 50,
verse uh 14.
Okay, it just says the end. Chapter 50,
verse 14.
So, it says that we know that Yaakov
dies and Yosef gets permission from
Pharaoh to bury Yaakov where at the the
Ma'arat Machpelah, the the cave in um in
Chevron, you visit today.
Yaakov's grave where he's buried
together with Leah.
And then Rachel's not buried there,
she's buried with the
the the Bethlehem,
Kever Rachel, which is uh
few miles away outside of Bethlehem,
Bethlehem.
And then it says in verse 14, "Vayashav
Yosef Yisrael uv'echav."
Yosef returns to Egypt, he and his
brothers.
"Kol ha'olim ito likbor
et aviv."
All who came up with him from Egypt to
bury his father.
"Acharei kavro et aviv."
After they buried his father.
Okay?
Oh, wow. Thank you, John. Beautiful.
Thank you very much.
Thank you. We were you're good you're
good you're good to me.
I tried.
So, it says So, there's listen to listen
to this. So, I'm Okay, let me read this.
It says, "Vayashav Yosef Yisrael
Yosef returned from Egypt, he and his
brothers, and all who went up with him
to bury his father after burying his
father." How many times does it say that
they buried his father there?
Well, let's see.
It uh one, two, two times. Okay.
Clearly, they just came back from
burying his father. I think no doubt
about that.
And then in verse 15,
it says,
The you are after Joseph.
And the brothers of Joseph saw he makes
a beer. That their father died.
Well, what?
What do you mean that he saw his their
father had died?
Didn't they just return from burying his
their father?
And the passage before tells us two
times
they were there burying the flowers of
his burying his fathers. They were their
fathers. What does it mean? And the
brothers saw the brothers of Joseph saw
that their father died.
Of course they know their father died.
They just came back from burying him.
So, Rashi comments on that. And this is
what Rashi says.
Malveo, what did he see?
He killed when he saw so at so Joseph.
They saw in his death that something had
changed
in Joseph.
They saw that something had changed in
Joseph.
What had changed in Joseph?
Well, it says,
Should we give me so a sugar hammer that
Joseph when Jacob was alive
had always invited his brothers to eat
at his table.
Why in the cover be sure covered of it?
And they thought that
he was inviting them because of the
honor of his father.
Then it says a little bit deeper. It
says that apparently Joseph when he when
he would sit at the table,
Joseph would sit at the head of the
table.
And the reason why he sit at the head of
the table
was because Jacob insisted. Joseph
wasn't the oldest.
But Jacob insisted that he he sit at the
head of the table. So, Joseph wasn't the
oldest father.
After Jacob died, Joseph thought, "How
can I sit at the head of the table? I
have all the brothers."
Reuben, Shimon, Levi, Judah. You know,
Reuben is the before Leah. Judah is
supposed to be the middle of the kingdom
eventually. I can't sit at the head of
the table. I I have brothers. All the
brothers do me.
And so, Joseph didn't know what to do.
So, what did he do? He stopped inviting
them.
Now, how does his brothers interpret
that? In the converse 15 again, the end
of verse 15,
what do the brothers say? The Yom Yom,
the brothers say,
Louis is the man of Joseph.
It must mean
that Joseph hates us.
Louis is the man of the Yom Louis is the
man of Joseph. That Joseph hates us.
So, interesting, you know what you learn
from that point? I never hear once in my
relationship that that's
that
sometimes you could have my locusts,
disputes between people,
because of positive intention.
Joseph wanted to protect the dignity of
his brothers.
So, he stopped inviting them.
His brothers interpreted that as he must
hate us.
In Joseph's mind,
in Joseph's mind, Joseph couldn't
imagine that his brothers would think
that he could hate them because he loved
his brothers so much.
In his brothers' minds, the brother mind
of his brothers, his brothers couldn't
imagine Joseph wouldn't hate them.
So, he
you know, it's interesting, sometimes
you can have disagreements and
misunderstandings and and disputes
because both people have such pure
hearts.
I can't imagine what's in your heart,
and you can't imagine what's in my
heart. Do you know the solution to that
is?
Always tell people why you're doing
things.
Speak out what you're doing and why
you're doing it.
You know, for example,
you know, like you don't invite somebody
to a to a party.
And the person comes to you and says,
you know, I'm so upset that you what why
don't you invite me? You can't you can't
do that.
So, you say, look, I couldn't invite you
to you know you know why? You know what?
I don't know why. Why? Don't you know
that your your your your ex was going to
be there?
If I invited you, you would have felt so
uncomfortable. I couldn't invite you.
So, why didn't you tell me? You know,
speak it out to me.
See, that's the how important it is that
in certain situations, tell people why
you do things.
It would can a lot of problems.
So the brothers
think that Joseph hates them.
That was in the verse. So now they want
to repay us for all the bad. He wants to
repay us for all the bad we did to them.
In verse 16,
and they gathered around Joseph saying,
Your father commanded before he died
saying,
Thus said Joseph,
Please lift up the crime of your
brothers.
The crime also and the sin.
They did evil to you.
And now please raise up the crime of the
servants of the God of your father.
Joseph cried and he spoke to them this.
Interesting. They gathered around Joseph
and they basically said to Joseph,
Your
father commanded before he died saying,
Thus said to Joseph,
Please forgive the sins of your
brothers.
Basically what they're saying.
Dad said before he died
that you should forgive the sins of your
brothers.
Well, first of all, number one,
Rashi tells us that they lied.
Rashi says
that they lied.
They lied for peace. You know, we're
allowed to lie sometimes.
Sometimes we're allowed to lie. One
reason we're allowed to lie is for
peace.
Someone invites Someone asks you,
How do you like the the cholent?
What are you supposed to say?
Delicious.
How do you like the um
you know,
How do you like the
whatever it is, how do you like the
kugel?
You says, "Delicious."
You can lie for peace. And you know, we
want Hashem sometimes wants us to
sacrifice truth that there should be
harmony between people. That's Hashem's
will. By the way, you know, from a Torah
perspective or other,
if you have to lie for peace,
you have to make sure that you you make
the lie before the person asks you.
Because once they ask, it's too late.
Before they ask you, "How do you like
the cholent?" What do you have to say?
Cholent's delicious.
Cuz once they ask you, you can't say, "I
don't like it."
You know, it's interesting that one time
my my father
told me My father
is a physicist.
And he um
he was a professor for a number of years
at West Point at the United States
Military Academy.
And so, at the Military Academy, they
have a law. One of the rules for the
cadets
is that you can't lie.
And there's a very good reason for it.
The reason is because that, you know,
they're going to be officers in the
army.
And as officers in the army, you have to
tell the truth. You know, people's lives
might depend on you telling the truth.
So, truth is a highly valued commodity
in West Point.
And then they had a question, but like
Let me tell you what my father said to
me. He said like, you know, the cadets
weren't allowed to drink at the local
bars.
So, if you go to get out of the local
bar and you see a cadet
having a drink there, a beer,
next thing you you confront him. You
shouldn't say to him, "Were you at the
bar?" Cuz if he lies, he could be
expelled. You could say something like,
"What what's this about you in the bar?"
Something like that. Let him explain
himself.
He might be penalized for it in some
way, but he won't be kicked out of the
academy.
So, they had a question. My father said,
"That supposing you're invited over to
your colonel's house, and the family
They're very like family-oriented at
West Point.
And um
and his wife makes a meatloaf.
And she asks you, "How do you like the
meatloaf?"
And it's terrible.
Can you lie in order to spare feelings?
So, they concluded, yeah, you're allowed
to lie to spare feelings.
So, my father's very excited about that.
And he called me and I said, "Look, the
laws of West Point are just like the
laws in
the Torah. You can lie for peace."
So, I think about it a little bit. I
said, "You know, yes and no."
We can certainly lie for peace.
But according to the Torah,
you have to anticipate the question in
life first.
And how do we know that? Because then
when you When a man gets married, a
husband gets married, he's supposed to
go over to the katan and say, "You just
married an isha no'amah
a woman who's lovely and righteous."
And you're not supposed to wait till he
asks you, "How do you like her?"
You have to go over to him first and
tell him that.
Why? Cuz it says in the Torah that if if
he has to wait, if he has to ask you
first, it means you don't really think
she is lovely and righteous.
So, you see then that when you tell a
lie for peace, what do you do?
You lie before the questions.
So, I said to my father, you know, man's
law could could say that if asked, you
can lie.
But the sensitivity of of Hashem
is he has to be so sensitive that he
mean before you're asked,
you have to anticipate the question by
Okay, in any case. So, what they're
doing is is correct.
They're not wrong in what they're
saying.
They're doing something which is
absolutely correct by um
by lying for peace.
Now,
how do we know, by the way?
You know, it's interesting. We know the
lying for because first of all, the
brothers
never told Yaakov.
And it's also very fascinating that it
says at the end of the Midrash with the
whole time he's down in Mitzrayim,
that during the 17 years
that Yosef wasn't even with his father.
You know, Yaakov dies at at 147. And he
comes down, he's 130.
This this is the parsha where where he
dies. For those 17 years that Yaakov was
with Yosef in Egypt,
Yosef never allowed himself to be alone
with Yaakov. That's what the Midrash
says.
He never let himself have a private
audience with his father. There always
had to be someone else there.
And it says, why?
Because he was afraid that Yakov would
ask him a question.
You know, how did you get down here?
What happened?
And even if he tried to
you know, get around the question,
Yakov was smart enough to realize that
it's something to do with the brothers.
So, he basically avoided his father with
direct contact direct contact with his
father for 17 years.
And the say it more strongly,
he sacrificed the relationship with his
father,
which is probably the most important
relationship in his life.
He valued He wanted Yakov's Torah. He
was basically the spiritual inheritor of
Yakov's Torah.
He could use Yakov's wisdom just to be
You know, Yakov was also a politician.
Yakov had enormous wisdom.
How do I How do I manage this this
position of of of providing for the
world because he used Yakov's advice.
And maybe most importantly, he wanted
his love.
He wanted the relationship of a father
to his son.
And Yosef gave it all up
in order that Yakov should never think
badly about the brothers.
You know, I always think to myself, you
know, Yosef is called Yosef HaTzaddik.
He's really the only one of our Avos who
has that appellation, HaTzaddik, the
righteous one.
There are many reasons why.
I mean, in my mind, I think this is one
of the reasons as well.
So, the brothers
were lying
correctly so.
But what they say
is a little disturbing.
Let's look at the words again.
Go tell Yosef,
verse 17,
Thus said Yosef,
I am a son of Asher HaTzaddik.
Let me go back one word.
It says,
We said to Yosef,
being in verse in in in in 16,
They gathered around Yosef saying, Our
father had commanded us to say also,
You father commanded before he died
saying,
Go tell
say to Joseph, I'm a son of Jacob.
Please forgive the sins of your
brothers.
What's awesome? The iniquity.
He robbed them of all of them also.
Cuz they did evil to you.
The after now,
son of the pressure,
please raise up the crime
of the of the local people.
Of the service of the God of your
father.
And yet he also got a lot.
Joseph cried when he said this to them.
And in verse 18,
yeah?
So not only are they just there like are
they thinking badly of him that he can't
forgive them and and be happy for them.
They're also assuming that he told his
father.
Right. They don't know what happened.
Yeah, because they certainly didn't tell
Jacob.
But they're assuming Joseph told him cuz
they're assuming he knows.
They're assuming Joseph did right.
They're they're basing their right to
confronting Joseph.
why? Because his father isn't telling
them to do anything if he didn't tell
the father about what happened. So,
They're lying. Yeah, and and Joseph must
have been lying.
You know, but uh unless maybe Joseph
thinks that maybe they told their
father. He doesn't know.
So maybe Joseph didn't tell.
But what's interesting, my listen listen
to this. Does this statement fill the
requirements of the Rambam
that we began the discussion with? The
Rambam says in order to evoke a person's
forgiveness,
one has to follow formula where there's
a subject, a verb, and a pronoun.
I need to talk to the local people. I
sinned against you.
I
misjudged you.
I thought you were We thought we
misjudged you. We thought you were
dangerous.
We ruined your life by selling you into
slavery
and being
out of the family
for 22 years.
We were wrong. We regretted with every
fiber of our being. We want to be
brothers again. Can you forgive us?
Mhm.
That's the bottom formula.
We hurt you.
That's what the brothers said.
What did the brothers say? They gathered
and Joseph saying
of the hot cedar leaves them also.
Your father commanded before he died
saying
son now pay sure a helper. Please
forgive the sins of your brothers.
Dad said before he died you should
forgive us.
Mhm.
You know, interesting like you know,
imagine that um
Bobby
smacks his little sister Susie.
Susie goes crying to her room.
And uh then dad walks in, what happened
over here?
And you know, I was sitting I hit I hit
Susie.
Dad says, you go apologize.
So uh Bobby knocks on the door of Susie,
you know.
And Susie opens up, what do you want?
Dad said I should forgive you. Dad said
you should forgive me.
What would Susie do?
Slam.
Dad said that you should forgive me.
Is not exactly I'm sorry I hurt you.
I hurt you. I hit you. I was impetuous.
I was I was I wasn't thinking. I was
angry.
I hit you. I'm sorry.
Dad said you should forgive me.
Isn't exactly
I hit you. I'm sorry.
What did the brothers say to Joseph? Dad
said before he died that you should
forgive us.
Dad said you should forgive me.
I think Susie would accept that.
Why? Because it is lacking
in the essential ingredients of
truthful.
The essential ingredient must be that
there's an acknowledging of of one's
crime so to speak. And and when you see
that I acknowledge and I make myself
vulnerable
it least I really changed because that
vulnerability hurts.
Yet the brothers aren't doing that.
They're saying dad said before he died
that you should forgive us.
You know, that's not what they're
saying?
Go tell Joseph say to Joseph
I'm the son of
please forgive the sins of your
brothers.
Say to tell Joseph that you said that
you that you should forgive the sins of
your brothers
because of the evil to you. Oh,
almost speech there.
But the essence of what his dad said you
should forgive us.
Not that we
hurt you
and we're sorry.
Where's the vulnerability?
They haven't
What's that?
They haven't asked for forgiveness by
this point. I mean, these are righteous
men. What's wrong with them?
Yeah, look I'm look again that's a good
point. I'm not I'm you know, we right
the whole the story is working
the brothers are great tzaddik.
Each one of them has their name engraved
on the on the one of the told them that
the coin God would wear as he performed
the vote of we They're noble tzaddikim.
And yet they're they're there's
something that's happening over here
where they're certainly regretting.
I regret that is there.
But for some reason
what it looks like is that
the vulnerability is missing.
The vulnerability comes when you say, "I
hurt you and I'm sorry." It takes a lot
to say that because it's painful to say
that.
And you're really putting yourself on
the line, but that's what triggers the
forgiveness.
When one can look at you and say
that vulnerability that you've expressed
really shows me that you want this
really that you're a new person.
The brothers are regretting like they
give a whole speech.
Say to Joseph, "I'm the son of
please raise up the crying of your
brothers." They call it the crime.
And their sin
cuz evil they did to you.
And now son of the
and now please lift up the crying of the
servants of the God of your father.
Because of the crime of the servants,
the God of the servants of the God of
your father. You know, they
the Yevchiels of God, Joseph cries.
They suddenly acknowledge
the crime. We we there was a crime.
But what's missing in that little
statement
is
we
did this to you.
Instead they're saying, "Dad said you
should forgive us."
Dad said say Joseph that Joseph should
forgive them for the crime.
Not we sinned against you.
They're hiding.
I think.
Let's go a little Let's go a little
further. Joseph cries, by the way. It's
very moving. Joseph cries at the
acknowledgement of the regret.
But let's go a little further.
Just got 18. Just bring up a higher
Jonah.
In 18 says,
Is it the year who come forgive for the
father?
And the brothers go
and and the brothers actually fall
on their face faces.
The young one they say, "We never call
you a bottom. We'll be your slaves."
They fall on the ground and say, "We'll
be your
We'll be slaves to you."
Interesting.
Did Joseph want them to be slaves or
where did that come from?
For 17 years Joseph
avoids his father.
So that the father said Jacob should
never think badly about the brothers
during his lifetime.
And the brother should never be ashamed
to be in the presence of the father.
And now he's the brother saying to them,
"Let us be your slaves." Brothers don't
want Joseph doesn't want slaves.
He wants brothers.
It sounds to my ear. Maybe it could
it sounds curious to say to your ear.
It sounds to my ear
that that the that expression of "We'll
be your slaves."
Again is almost like saying
what they should have said is
they should have fallen on their faces
and said,
"We want to be your
We want to be a brothers again. Let's be
brothers again.
To say we'll be your slaves
is almost like avoiding the
vulnerability.
Does Joseph want to be slaves? What does
he want that for? He wants to He wants
to He wants brothers.
If they're not saying we'll be your
brothers, they almost are ashamed to say
ashamed to say that. They can't get that
word out of their mouths. We want to be
your brothers cuz to say we want to be
your brothers is a much more vulnerable
statement.
How wrong we were in misjudging you as a
brother and causing you not to be a
brother. We want to be your brothers
again.
It's much easier to say we want to be
your
We'll be slaves.
We'll be your We're so regretful. We'll
be slaves to you.
Do you hear that a little bit in there?
That takes less vulnerability.
Than to say we want to be your brothers
again because that's really
acknowledging we miss we we you know The
job of brothers is to stand up for you.
That's what brothers do.
Brothers protect brothers.
We did not do that to you.
We were not brotherly to you.
We were the opposite of brothers to you.
We tried to kill you. We tried and we
sold you.
We want to be brothers again. That would
show a greater feeling of of the That
would be vulnerable. We want to be your
brothers and That would be more of an
acknowledgement almost of of
quote would be closer than we want to be
your slave. What does Joseph want to be
slaves for? Why would he say such a
thing?
Again, the the The regret is there.
But the direct expression of we
harmed you is still missing. We did
something to you.
The vulnerability is is isn't isn't
there entirely
in my ear.
Do you hear that, everybody?
And this is what Joseph says back to
them.
The yo then Joseph Genesis 45, thank
you.
The yo then Joseph Joseph says to them,
"Al tiroc, don't be afraid.
Ki ataka the
I'm another guy. Am I substitute for
God? I'm another guy. You don't have
anything to share. Don't be so afraid.
I can have
verse 20.
You thought
evil against me.
I will keep the door open, but God
intended that it should be for the good.
In order that I should be in a position
now to to sustain and give life to a to
an arm rob.
To a uh
to to a great nation. And Joseph is in a
position to to to feed the world.
So, interesting.
They said back they said Joseph listen,
you know, dad said before he died that
you should forgive us. And what does
Joseph say back? Joseph says back,
"Guys,
don't worry.
Everything's from Sham. You tried to
hurt me, but God made it good."
You know what's missing in Joseph's
speech?
What's missing in Joseph's speech is
"I forgive you."
It looks like everybody's hiding.
Who is everybody hiding behind?
Everybody's behind is hiding behind a
father figure.
Joseph is hiding behind I see the
brothers are hiding behind dad.
And Joseph is hiding behind
God.
Dad said before he died you forgive us.
Guys, don't worry. You tried to harm me,
but a sham turned it around.
Like, where is the direct conversation
with him?
It seems like something's happening.
Regret is there.
But hiding behind dad, hiding behind his
father,
is exactly what one can't do
when one's trying to evoke forgiveness
from another. One has to show the
vulnerability.
We harmed you. We misjudged you.
We ruined your life, and we regret it
and we want to be brothers again.
Now that dad said before he died that
you should raise up the that you should
give this into your brothers and we'll
be your slaves.
And Joseph's response is, "Guys, don't
worry so much. I I believe in God. I
can't hurt you. And look, you tried to
harm me, but it shall turn around and
all shall be good. So, don't worry so
much. Everything is fine."
Is it really fine?
It hasn't gotten anywhere.
It's getting close.
But the real ingredient
to evoke forgiveness is missing.
The real ingredient where one
perhaps shows that vulnerability and
therefore demonstrates, "I'm a
different, changed person."
Because of the vulnerability I'm showing
in the in the direct when I ask you for
forgiveness and say what I did to you
and go through that, you know, the have
to feel the pain of how
wrong I was by saying the words to you
and you seeing me that I acknowledge it
and I own it and I regret it and so
painful I'm doing anyway cuz I want the
relationship to be whole. That's a new
person in front of you.
And then the other person is able to
say,
"You know,"
then the other person is able to say,
"Yeah, I see you're a new person. I
forgive you."
But that's not what Joseph says.
Joseph says, "Guys, don't worry. God
meant it all good."
So, you're going to hide behind dad.
So, I'll hide behind that.
You have two fathers in this world.
Right? You have our earthly father and
heavenly father.
You'll be hiding behind your earthly
father. I'll hide behind our heavenly
father.
We're both playing the same game.
Now, I'm not saying this to I'm not
saying they're playing it consciously,
but they're playing the same game.
Let's go a little further here, we go.
So, John the disciple of one
You can't. Thank you.
He says, "Now, Joseph says to me, "After
all that you wrote,"
"Don't be afraid."
And all tell you what, you're wrong.
Don't be afraid.
I'll sustain you with your children.
You know,
just go to verse 20. Let's skip verse
20. Let's go down here.
Verse 20 says,
yeah, 20.
He said, "Tell me you that you have a
shot in Iraq. I turned out to be good. I
read that the man of Saki was out like
in Iraq. They just stayed in a great
nation." 21, the after after all,
and I don't be afraid. Hey guys, don't
be afraid. I'll tell you what, you're
wrong.
I'll sustain you.
The top of him and your children.
And at the end of the verse, he says,
"The Iraq him or something."
And he comforted them.
The Iraq him or something.
Can you hear me or something?
Did you hear me?
Can you hear me or something?
I can't hear you.
Maybe.
I can't hear you.
You can't hear me?
I can't hear you.
No, I don't hear anything.
You can't hear
Is everybody hearing me, by the way?
Yeah, give me a thumbs up.
You hear me fine?
hear you.
Yeah.
Well, with uh
If you can't hear me, don't be
With headphones, you can hear you
properly.
Okay, okay. With headphones, you can
hear me?
Can you hear me with headphones?
Yeah?
Yeah, I'm not using headphones. I can
hear you fine.
You hear me fine, okay. Everybody hear
me? There, you hear me?
Okay.
Good. And if you can't hear me, I don't
want to be polite, please tell me you
can't hear me.
Okay, cool.
You're good. Excellent. Okay, great. Um
so, what does this say over here?
In verse 21,
it says,
he said, "The end of the passage says,
do not be afraid. I'll sustain you and
your children."
The Iraq him or something. The Iraq him
or something.
And he comforted them. Oh, nice picture.
The
The Iraq him or something.
And he comforted them.
also.
The Adabe Aliba.
And he comforted them.
And he spoke to their hearts.
The Enachim
Adabe Aliba.
Now interesting, what does it mean? The
Enachim means to comfort. Joseph still
sees they're fearful.
So he wants to comfort them.
The Enachim of some he wants to speak
directly to their hearts.
So let's learn
what he said to them. What what did
Joseph say to comfort them? They wants
to comfort them. They they're so
nervous.
They maybe he's planning some sort of
plans for revenge. They're not
comfortable. He wants to say words that
will speak directly to their hearts.
So when what would we pay to listen in
on that conversation?
I'd pay a lot of money.
Fortunately, we have that conversation
right in front of us.
Where do we have it? We have it in
Rashi.
In the oral law and in the Midrashim
there is this conversation apparently is
is part of the Midrashim.
We have a record
of this conversation of this
conversation or the essence of this
conversation. Jonathan, are you able to
go to
to to look at the get Rashi and the
commentators
below?
Where you see you see it's the
commentators.
And if you um yeah, so if you go to
verse
Rashi, yeah.
The Rashi verse 21.
Let's see. Uh
on Exodus, yeah.
But I think you just click right on the
bottom of the text. Do you see there?
No, it's on it scrolls down to Genesis.
That's Exodus.
Genesis, sorry.
Should be Should be right there.
You see it's on the page. You just click
down.
Or under the text. Yeah, the commentary
commentary.
Yeah. Go to commentary page. Rashi good.
Excellent.
So
I go to verse 21.
Okay.
Uh slide down.
This thing after you got the answer from
one.
Okay, maybe it doesn't have it. Oh, we
got to leave it. There it goes. Okay.
So,
listen to what he says.
They actually have very antiquated uh
English here, but I'll read it if you
follow with me on the Rashi.
Again, what is Rashi doing? You know,
Rashi's self-proclaimed mission
is Rashi is trying to integrate the oral
law together with the the written law.
Where he feels the written law needs
greater clarification or or problems, he
he brings in the places from the oral
law that he gives greater clarity.
So, Rashi feels on this verse, he spoke
to their heart, this is the midrash that
he feels is is the conversation
that was is in the oral law that
describes what he said.
So, we got to leave on. I'll read I'll
read I'll translate in English later.
He said he spoke to the the double leap
on. He spoke to their hearts.
Divine is carbon aleh.
Words that can be accepted
by their hearts.
So, he says to them,
actually rather to the come
before you came down here,
I am the running the life here and the
other people.
People used to mock me
that I'm a slave.
But I did
know that I am in home. But through your
hands,
it's known that I'm really a free
person.
Why you know, why would they mock him?
Because he was a slave and then he was
in the prison and then he was elevated
to be the mission of the mouth, the
viceroy. And the probably there was even
a law in Egypt that a a slave could
never never be a citizen. Surely
couldn't be a a leader of the
government, you know. So, probably part
of himself changed the law for Joseph. A
good thing to do this life like you
know. You are probably you could do this
sort of things. Like you know in the
government, you need money, to print it
yourself.
It means that the way that it
1 trillion, another 1 trillion.
So, power changed the law, but people
still mocked Yoselach. He was just he's
just a slave.
So, Yoselach says to his brothers,
"Before you came down, people used to
mock me that I'm a slave.
Value there can nourish and become
But through you it's known that I'm
really a a free man.
But I need a Vegas hand.
And now I come to And now I would kill
you? My real son was What would people
possibly want people think? What would
they say?
Catch up the coin rather than you should
be with them. This this set of of of
young men he sees and he becomes praised
through them.
The other a high end. He says, "These
are my brothers."
Now, the brothers were so magnificent in
stature, the way in appearance, they
were beautiful in appearance, they they
were even physique and in in in in
spirituality and in wisdom. They
Jacob was royalty. You know that that
power has a meeting with him and power
asks for his blessing and and kind of
blessing was that the now should come to
greet you. They understood who his
family was.
And Yoselach says, "These are my
brothers."
All of a sudden for Yoselach and And he
And he kills them?
Yes, the actual the children gets a hot.
Is there such thing as a brother who
kills brothers? Guys, don't be so
nervous.
Don't be so worried.
I can't kill you.
It would look bad for me.
Again, what's what's the essence of
that?
Before you came down, people used to
mock me and say that I'm a slave, but
through your hands it's known that I'm
really a Ben Horan, I'm free. Body of
Vegas hand. And now I come to kill you?
My real son was What would people say?
I catch you with coin rather than you
should be with them. He sees this
amazing group of young men. He himself
becomes praised as a result of them.
The other hand He says, "These are my
brothers. Although I suffer
and then he comes to kill them."
He says that you have a brother who
kills brothers. Guys are like kill you.
People would think they're not really my
brothers. That would be bad for me. So
guys you don't have to worry.
I can't I won't harm you. I can't kill
you.
What is
He's speaking
common sense to them.
I have said once in the name of the
teleprompter only
I was talking to the doctor. He said,
you know, he
said he was speaking horse sense. You
know, sometimes you just have to speak
to a person in a way that's very
practical.
I'm just trying to say guys don't be
nervous. I can't kill you. It'll look
bad for me.
Before you came down people used to mock
me.
Through you they see that I'm from the
such a illustrious family.
You know.
And and I claim that you're my brothers.
That's my connection to this five
hundred. You're my brothers
and I'm really part of this illustrious
family. I'm not a slave.
And if I were to kill you, what would
people say?
You know.
You know, brothers don't kill brothers.
You must not really be my your brothers.
So guys don't worry so much.
Now he's really trying to calm them down
through this. He's really trying to
Try to think of another way. Thank you.
He's really trying to calm them down
through the statement.
You look at that we take the sphere.
And
it's You have to answer my question on
this.
In the eyes of the brothers
is this statement comforting
or absolutely terrifying?
Is it comforting or terrifying? You have
to do with the screen. You can take the
the verse off there.
Terrifying.
Yeah, I'm going to read it to you
in a different way. Listen to this now.
I'm going to read it to you a little
differently here. I'm going to reflect
my voice a little different. Listen to
the difference in inflection.
It says,
you double the fun. You spoke words that
under this common life with the hearts
good except.
Actually right in the con before you
guys came down and I had run and run and
run and run and run.
Previously marked me that I'm a slave.
But I you did notice I need calling.
But through you it's known
that I'm really a free person.
I need all the greatest con.
Now I would come to kill you.
My people saw those. What would people
say?
Catch up with him. I would have stopped
back for him.
This he sees this set of of of of
illustrious young man man and he becomes
praised as a result of them. The other
hand and he says, "These are my
brothers."
The soft a lot of sun and then he killed
all of them.
Now listen to this. I'm going to reflect
the last part a little differently this
time.
Guys,
Yeshua ach
shachora yesa ach.
Is there such a thing
as a brother
who killed his brother?
Mhm.
If you're the brothers, what are you
thinking?
Yes, there is such thing as a brother
who would kill his his brothers. You
know who they are? Us.
There is such thing as brothers who
would kill a brother.
That's what we tried to do to you.
Did you hear this?
On the one hand,
he's offering words which he's trying to
comfort them. Guys, I can't kill you cuz
it'll look bad for me. People won't
believe that I'm really you you're
really my brothers.
Because Yeshua ach shachora yesa ach, is
there such a thing as a brother who
killed his brothers? They give you the
same words and the different It's just
different inflection.
Yeshua ach
shoharei yeshua ach.
Rabbi?
Yes.
Is it kind of Okay, this is a ridiculous
martial, but it's just what I'm thinking
of with like the blood on your hands. We
had to do Macbeth in high school, and
there was this I don't exactly remember
what happened, but I think it was the
mother of the wife or something, and so
she had blood on her hands, and she
couldn't get over it. That's all I
remember. But the idea is if you have
blood on your hands, if you've killed,
or if you've like the brothers
effectively killed, and then it didn't
work out, then you kind of see within
that context, and you can't imagine a
different context. Like they they've
kind of put themselves into the guilty
party for eternity, haven't they?
So now they can't consider anything else
outside of that.
Exactly. That That's exactly the point
we're getting at.
Yosef is speaking to the hearts.
Trying to give them words for why he
can't harm them.
But the words he uses
to say why he can't harm them
from the perspective of the brothers are
exactly the words which they would think
would be the reason he would want to
harm them.
Guys, I can't harm you. Yeshua ach
shoharei yeshua ach, is there such thing
as a brother who kills his brothers?
Or you could just listen to the same
words differently.
Yeshua ach
shoharei yeshua ach.
Guys,
is there such thing as a brother
who kills brothers?
If you're a brother who tried to kill
his brothers,
or you're the brothers who tried to kill
his brother,
exactly as I'm saying, with those words
ringing in your ear
in a completely different way.
Yes.
I don't understand, Rabbi. Why are they
acting like they have blood on their
hands, like that lady from Macbeth, if
the entire time they don't even think
they have to really give an apology,
because they think that they were
righteous, and even when they saw that
he was there, they thought they were
right in what they were doing. They
didn't think that they apologized. They
thought they were right.
And And they they They thought they were
right, but it was a shame they had to do
that. Like they weren't really
apologizing. So even now they're not
fully apologizing for what they did. How
is it that they both believe so much so
that they did that they were wrong that
they can't imagine he would forgive
them, but also not that they were wrong
enough that they'd actually ask for
apology.
Well, you know you know it's true you
know that after when they first see
Joseph, he says shame on us
where where you know you know they Oh,
and you shouldn't have put him in prison
actually for
Yes, they should have allowed him to put
Yes in the pit. So Yes was put in prison
Yes, he was like a prison war for 3
days.
And the brothers do say shame on us
we're ashamed.
But again, they never say because we
sold him.
They said because we didn't feel his
pain enough. We didn't feel enough
of his pain when he was in the pit
crying and we weren't we weren't
sensitive enough.
So again, they never acknowledge at that
juncture that they were wrong. Just that
they didn't feel enough of him.
But certainly now,
you know, 17 years later
when it's all said and done and and they
realize how wrong they were,
that Joseph was not an enemy, he wasn't
a rebel.
He wasn't someone who was trying to
undermine the mission of Jacob. He was
trying to
to push forth the mission of Jacob and
and he has only only good intentions.
They certainly recognize they were
wrong.
And and and their speech I think does
demonstrate that. And their speech of
Dad said before he died that you should
forgive the sins of your brother. They
do say the sins of your brothers over
and over and over again. The sins, the
crime of your brother, the the iniquity
of your brother, the evil that they
tried to do to you.
Again, the acknowledgement of of what
they've done
is there. The regret and and the
intellectual
realization that that we were wrong.
But what we're suggesting is
is what's lacking
is the vulnerability.
Where they say,
"We hurt you
directly. Not Dad said you should
forgive us, but
we harmed you. We misjudged you.
We're sorry. We want to be brothers.
As opposed to Dad said,
you should forgive us. We want to be
your slaves.
That's
That's different speech.
The vulnerability of of
we regret and we harmed you and we're
admitting it.
That's what's lacking. And And again,
they're great people, as is mentioned,
right? They're great people and
would they they would they certainly
wouldn't want to
say it, but they're not saying it for
some reason.
Not that they don't want to say it. They
want to, but they can't, you know? Maybe
it hurts too much.
It hurts to be vulnerable. You know,
that's why you
That's why forgiving That's why being
vulnerable allows the other person to
forgive you because it hurts. Because of
being vulnerable you're hurting.
Maybe it does hurt just too much to say
those words. It's easy to say we're your
slaves and we want to be your brothers.
Cuz if you're brothers, then you would
destroy the brotherliness.
Rather we'll be your slaves. You're the
king, we'll be the slaves is is is is is
is That is painful, but to say we ruined
brotherhood.
You know?
So they want it. I I would suggest they
they
they want it. They they want that
relationship. They They're not They're
They want it to be restored, but they're
not saying the words.
And therefore, when Joseph speaks to
their hearts,
he says, "Don't worry, I'm not going to
harm you." He gives a little speech.
Joseph says something which,
you know, is is very practical on one
hand, right? It's very practical that I
can't hurt you because of what God did
for me.
You know, all these people are making
fun of me. They're going to say I'm
They're going to claim that you're my
brothers. How can I kill you? Cuz people
would say brothers don't kill brothers.
But those same words,
brothers don't kill brothers, do they?
It's like you could say those words in
two ways. On the one hand, you could say
those words to comfort them. I can't
kill you. Brothers don't kill brothers.
And the same way you could say those
same words and absolutely terrify the
brothers.
Brothers don't kill brothers, do they?
Could I I'm sorry, can Can a question as
well?
Sure. who's speaking?
I'm just uh Rena. I'm just wondering um
why would he use these words in terms of
what would others would think of me
rather than what would God would think
of me? Cuz typically anytime he would
speak to like to the Pharaoh or anybody
else, he would say because of God. God
gave me this. God gave me that.
Right. So So that's what I'm thinking
he's really It's that he's speaking
as Rashi says, he's speaking words that
their hearts can accept.
He's
You know, words that his common law life
that's the beginning of Rashi. Words
that their hearts uh their heart can can
can be real to them.
As I see you're afraid of me.
Don't be afraid.
Why? Because I need you.
People mocked me, said I was a slave.
But through you they see I'm part of
this illustrious family.
I claim you're my brothers. So you're my
You know, you're my ticket to
respectability.
And if I kill you, what would people
say? You know, claims they're the
brothers. He claims
that they're his brothers and kills
them.
Brothers don't kill brothers.
So he's saying words
that their heart can accept.
What would people say means, you know,
it looks bad for me to hurt you. That's
what they're trying He's trying to
comfort them. Like common sense. Like
poor sense almost.
Now there's nothing that Hashem would
say. He's really trying to say to them,
"Look, I
I before they came down, people used to
they used to make fun of me, mock me
behind my back. Never to his face I
might add.
But behind my back just to mock me
saying I'm a slave. But through you,
people see I'm not a slave.
So if I kill you, what will people say?
He says they're his brothers.
You know, he he says that these are his
brothers and he kills them. Like
brothers don't kill brothers. They can't
really be his brother.
So he's really That's why he says, "What
will people say?" He's trying to tell
them, "You know, I need you.
If I kill you, people will think that
I'm still just a slave, you know."
All right, thank you.
But what I'm thinking what he's trying
to communicate there, what's interesting
is the This is so fascinating to me.
It just seems like there's a lot of lack
of honesty of what they're talking
about. Not that they're not honest
people, but we currently live in a
society that's so much about tell-all,
say everything that you're feeling. So,
I guess it's hard to look at this and
see so much being concealed and so much
not being said and so many, you know,
it's almost like a
ridiculous, you know, TV show of all the
drama coming about because people aren't
communicating basic things.
Um, but it's true, but again, this is
difficult to communicate.
Again, the reason why true love works
is because person makes himself
vulnerable.
The reason why forgiveness
is is evoked from the other
is that vulnerability. And it must be
very difficult for the brothers to say
those words. It's easier to hide behind
the father.
And that's why you also hide behind God,
right? Like, you tried to harm me, so
you know, I
God turned it out to be good.
But I'm not hearing from you that
vulnerability. Again, they're trying to
get it out. Everyone's trying and trying
and trying.
And even Joseph, that's why even Joseph
at the end
Again, this conversation is recorded in
the Midrash and and Rashi brings this to
be the simplest explanation what it
means when he's trying to comfort their
hearts. And on the one hand, like if we
know as asking before,
he he is trying to comfort their hearts.
He is trying to say words to them which
they can accept. Guys, I can't kill you,
it looks bad for me.
Cuz if I kill you, people will think
that you're not really my brothers and
therefore I'm only asleep.
And and brother, you know, people would
say, you know, cuz why why would they
think that? Because I kill you.
How can I kill you cuz brothers don't
kill brothers?
So, don't worry, guys.
But listen,
this is so those same words,
you know, yesh to achim as achim as
achim.
Is there such thing as a brother
who kills brothers?
If you reflect
with a little different intonation,
they're absolutely it's it's it's abject
terror.
It's so frightening to brothers who
tried to kill a brother. And I can't
kill you because there's no such thing
as a brother who kills brothers, is
there?
Yes, there is.
The brothers are thinking, "Yes, there
is.
There are such things as brothers who
kill brothers. That's us."
So, how can there be these words that
you're trying to comfort them? How can
these be words of comfort? These are
words of abject terror to brothers who
tried to kill a brother.
So, I'll tell you what I heard them that
they were forming sand as
it must mean
that on the surface
he's trying to
to comfort them. On the surface, he's
really trying.
On the surface, he is trying to offer
words that will comfort.
His desire is to show that he's okay
with them.
But, the same words also demonstrate
what's going on in the inner part of who
he is.
In his subconscious,
deep inside of himself,
where the doubt and the feelings
are still
harboring resentment.
I still harbor resentment
for what you did to me.
Guys, brothers don't kill brothers. He's
trying to comfort. But, the same words
Is there such thing as a brother who
kills brothers?
Externally, I'm trying to to to comfort.
But, internally,
I'm a resentful.
And those That's why those words can
mean both things. They can be words of
comfort, and they can be words of of of
expression, you know, of of of
of
abject terror to brothers who tried to
kill a brother.
Because that's what Joseph did.
I'm trying externally, and my my
external part of myself is trying to
sound forgiving you.
But internally there's another voice
speaking under the words.
Where I'm still harboring resentment.
And maybe Joseph is still harboring
resentment.
Because the brothers never really asked
for forgiveness.
They never really made themselves
vulnerable.
And by the way, it's on this note
that safer relation closes.
The curtain closes exactly right here.
This is the last relation in the book of
Genesis.
This is where the safer closes. The
curtain goes down
on that note of doubt.
Interesting. And then the curtain opens
one page later and the slavery begins.
Interesting.
The brothers who will be your slave.
And there's the cycle.
There seems to be a feeling
of some
unresolved
tension in the family.
And we have to go through the next
episode to really bring the family back
together.
And the reality is the whole history of
the Jewish nation is is about bringing
the family back together.
It's about the split of the 10 tribes,
which by the way were the children of
natural. Yes, it's children.
And Yehuda, Benjamin and
trying to reconcile the brother the hood
of of Jewish nation. All Jewish history
the function of bringing the Jewish
people back together.
What might have been changed
had
full forgiveness
been achieved at this moment.
Maybe Jewish history have gone
different. I don't know. It's just uh
it's a speculation. Pure speculation for
me.
If you'll allow me that speculation.
But again, what I'm offering you today
is is is not clear. I'm just offering
you a a
one approach. Many say this conversation
demonstrates that the brothers asked for
forgiveness and Joseph did forgive them.
That's what seems to be on the surface.
But I feel very strongly you analyze it
and you look at it deeper.
It's lacking that basic ingredient that
one needs to evoke the forgiveness of
another, the vulnerability.
And so in that last Rashi, which is
describing here says
a desire to speak to their hearts
is can be read in two ways.
It could be read in a way of saying, "I
can't hurt you because it'll be bad for
me.
The brothers don't kill brothers."
Or they're read in a completely
different way.
Do brothers kill brothers?
Well, the brothers who tried to kill a
brother
those aren't comforting words. Those
aren't comforting words.
Those are scary words.
And maybe that really reflects the
duality of the brothers themselves.
And maybe the ambivalence the
ambivalence of the brothers themselves
is like
I'm trying to forgive you, but something
inside of me is pulling me back.
It's a theory.
But I think it's something to think
about.
Okay, everybody. You okay with that? Any
questions?
Okay.
Thanks, Rabbi.
You're welcome.
Uh this is actually one of my favorite
pieces. So, I hope you enjoyed it. This
is one of after this one of my favorite
you know, one of my favorite pieces. And
because you didn't hear the brilliance
of the Medrish
how a Medrish can be speaking both to
one's conscious voice and to one's
subconscious voice at the same time.
And that's why it's so fascinating. The
Medrish is like a you know, like a like
a like a piano that you hear the melody
on the external melody at one time, but
there are the chords behind it, which
are
a little bit darker, a little bit more
sinister, a little bit together they're
coming fusing into something.
You know, you hear both the right hand
and the left hand simultaneously in that
Medrish. Jonathan if you should die of
music
it's like you hear both hands working
together
in that.
And that's why I think Rashi and that's
why Rashi selects it because you do hear
both voices.
And maybe that that that indicates
you know, really the ambivalence and
duality and ambiguity
that is is reflective of of Joseph and
his doctrine.
I want to forgive you, but something is
going to dissolve.
Okay, everybody. Wishing you a wonderful
week and um
looking forward to continuing
this session next week.
Thank you, Rabbi Kraft.
Okay.
Peace, Rabbi Kraft.
You, Rabbi.
Thank you, Rabbi.
Have a great week.
You, too. Thank you, everyone.
Have a wonderful week.