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BEWARE FAKE CONVERTS

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Rabbi Yaron Reuven Short Torah Clips

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[Music] if a converts to judaism a real authentic conversion and then after a certain amount of time he decides to go back to his idol worship does his conversion get cancelled the answer is no his conversion does not get cancelled if at the time of his conversion he had legitimate intentions or she had legitimate intentions to keep shabbat to keep talking to keep the laws of the torah all the things that she knows all the things that they're going to supposed to learn they had the intentions to keep them that conversion is final that conversion is final it's only not final if it's a child that's below 13 for a boy and 12 for a girl if you convert a child that's let's say five six seven years old then that child has to go back to the bed deen when they're bar mitzvah or bat mitzvah age and the bed dean will ask him if they want to remain a jew because that uh conversion was in essence a uh uh or something that's subjective to the follow-up meeting uh that will happen at a later time when they become an adult a 13 for a boy and 12 for a girl and can choose for themselves if the boy or girl says no that's it they become a instantly and if they want to go back no no i didn't mean to oh you have to do conversion you have to do conversion like an adult so that's why the parents have to be very very serious about educating that kid to get them to a point where they love the torah by the time they get to bar mitzvah about mitzvah and they they don't even see themselves as anything but a jew it's not a question for them do i want to be a journalist unfortunately this happens sometimes where kids are not educated the right way or they're brought up in a house where uh the parents are you know a little bit of uh religious nazis where uh everything is a uh with the whip you know no stories no songs no fun everything is he's eight years old he's eight years old relax teach him no what happens parents the two strengths cause the kids to hate judaism and it really has nothing to do with judaism has to do with the parents they hate the parents but they express it by their hatred of judaism and this happens unfortunately now if a person is an adult and they converted to judaism and they decided to go back to their idolatry they are at that point considered a jew that is sinning a jew that is sinning and if they do not do chewbacca they will get themselves a very very warm and not so pleasant gift that's called gay nom perhaps even kapha kela they'll be in the mix too and unfortunately it's not a good idea and actually the people like that are really stupid why because it had you stayed a you would actually have a chance of being at heaven with some of the things that you're doing not with idolatry dollar tree anyone that's an idol worshiper jew or gentile everybody they go to gangnam it doesn't matter what you are but if let's say for example the person just decided that you know what i don't want to be religious anymore i want to drive on shabbat now if you're a guy you could drive in shabbat you can fly in shabbat you can dance on shabbat you can do whatever you want to share but it's not it's not stuff for you you don't have to keep anything but if you are now a jew and you're violating shabbat you have a very serious problem why violating shabbat says like denying hashem it's like denying exists it's equivalent to idolatry and such a person has no share of the world to come what is no share of the world to come in permanent genome permanent genome horrible horrible things so such a person is a fool unfortunately one of the things that causes people to do such things i know a couple of stories like this where somebody told me listen i'm watching your shuleem i love them i need to do chewbacca i said oh okay why you are about to go no no actually i used to be religious oh what happened i married a guy well hold on a second why why did you marry non-jew if you're religious well actually i uh converted to judaism oh so you were tadik then yeah everything was going great yeah but my first marriage didn't go well so we got a divorce we got we we fulfilled the mitzvah of gates get these also not not suggested to have one but you have to have to get a get get a get meaning divorce so first marriage didn't work out they ended up getting divorced he got a little lonely he found maybe his old girlfriend the goya that he used to be in love with when he was a teenager now she's 35 or 40. she's cute he's cute everybody's cute and both of them aren't getting them what happens four kids later he's like oh i gotta do chuba yeah but you have four kids with a non-jew and you're a jew that's a very very difficult thing to fix it's fixable but very difficult to fix i have at least uh almost a handful of stories like this right now almost a handful of stories like this so this is a very serious problem why because he is now a jew that is intermarried he's into marriage very very serious problem so again if it's an authentic conversion the conversion does not get cancelled the only time that it does get cancelled is if it's right away meaning she converted and she decided the next day that she's going back to yosuke that already shows that obviously the conversion was not authentic and they canceled it there's some scheme that say no even then she's considered as a jew but many would simply avoid the uh the conversion since it's right away it's a very complicated issue because again it's a uh you know it's uh you want them to go to heaven but the same token you can't just change the law for them can't just change the law for people so if you're going to convert you have to make sure that you want to do it you have to make sure you want to do it one of the indications that you want to do it is you're never ever going to complain about the conversion process virtually every single person that i've dealt with right now we have in our group probably over 130 families that we're helping in the process of conversion virtually every person that complained to me about conversion most i would say almost every one of them never made it why they didn't understand what it means to be a jew they didn't understand what it means to be you oh how come it's taking so long well how long has it taken oh i'm already doing it for four years i only met you two months ago yeah but before you oh before me your world didn't exist i i can't convert you because you've been reading books before i can't take it i can't vouch for you i don't know what you you could tell me four years it could be four days how do i know i have to make sure that you know what you're doing i have to make sure that i can put my own lumbar bar on the line for you i'm going to put my bar on the line for you just because you like books and you like my election you press like nobody donate to don't donate them oh you don't put my lumbar money what do you think i'm for sale what's the matter with you no but it should be easier what do you think this is christianity and why do you care that it's taking so long anyway everything you have to do conversion you have to do for the rest of your life anyway what difference does it make no then it becomes real it's real today it's real now but the problem is people want things their way they think that if they pay a certain price or they do a certain thing they could speed up the process and those people are usually terrible converts terrible and there's a special special section for those people what section is that i'm not talking about genome you'll be surprised it's talking i'm talking about those people always are magnets to heretic rabbis they're heretic rabbis the rabbis that try to beat the system like one one heretic that lives here in florida he does mass conversions i won't even mention his name simply because i don't want to make him any more popular than he is he's already causing enough damage he does mass conversions mass conversions meaning just come to the beach boys and girls we're going to convert you who me julio and steve we're not even sure they're jewish beckham no no but we're going to do it uh we're going to do it according to the you converted by him you're still a i'll tell you that why because no one in the world that has a little bit of mind would accept his conversions why he himself doesn't have your mind he himself doesn't have he himself goes against the sages makes fun of the torah on a regular basis but not all why are you going to convert because he converts anybody you want to convert where do you live oklahoma where's your next door neighbor 40 miles away what about the synagogue 900 miles away okay you're qualified come to the beach we'll convert you how is this guy going to be a dream oklahoma by himself how does he know how to do koso sana what watching your videos on the internet he's going to know what he did just because he knows how to fast for 24 hours that makes him a jew no it makes him know how to do a diet in order to be a junior i have to live in a jewish community yeah but i can't move i can't afford it okay so it's not time to convert no but i want to okay i want to go to the to mars does that mean i'm going to go if i can want you to convert guess what i'll open the gates of heaven for you if he didn't that means he's not ready to accept you simple but what happens people try to beat the system beat the system no i'm going to go to the guy that does it for free i'm going to go to the guy that doesn't under the table i'm gonna go to the guy that's uh no one knows i'm gonna go to the guy that no one cares about i'm gonna why why traditional way stick to the system stop trying to beat it because i promise you you can't beat a colossal who you beat you may beat the rabbis you may beat the so-called systems but ultimately you'll end up losing a lot of times people try to buy their conversions hey rabbi how much can i convert or who wants to convert you you're jewish no you're not about my girl what is she oh no she's she's she's in the car what do you mean shabbat yeah no you know but she wants to convert the rabbit she really likes judaism but she's in a car in shabbat you know she's actually not in the car right right now she's in the mall why you want to see a rubber well if she wants to convert don't i have to see her okay maybe she'll come next about after them all you know she usually goes with the girls to the mall after the motion come to you rabbi how much is it going to cost to convert for her 25 000. the guy pays why the rabbi gives why because both of them are shying both of them and some people do that they pay the rabbi and they'll convert anybody convert a horse i know first hand first firsthand i know i know firsthand was the guy living next door to me wanted to convert wanted to convert sadiq his wife hashemish movie i think the satan's wife is jealous of her she says why this woman she's better than me this woman was mamash like picture perfect of genome nightmare i felt so bad for the guy they already had kids i would have done the divorce anyway long story short she cheats on him she's in the present conversion once you convert little kids to keem cute little kids i'm just precious i want to like adopt them so cute her shimmy shimmery tea so what are you going to do it's a package deal one day he decides i'm leaving her why am i leaving her oh she's cheating on me she's cheating on me with some guy i don't know who what when and how but i'm leaving i said okay listen it's it's best for you to so at least bizarre she won't convert all right she never liked it she didn't want to keep nothing better than she hasn't converted he comes back to me two weeks later he says rabbit you're never gonna believe it i said what i went to the bed dean and i told them i'm ready to do the conversion they told me listen we're not ready yet the guy is already at a level where he finished he finished everything he needed to learn for conversion he's already at a point where he's studying chavutta with several people he already started studying things that are tamika you talked to the guy tommy dedicated his life serious serious guy kids you would never think that they're not jewish but the bed dean three four years later no we're not ready yet we're not ready yet we're not ready yet so i said okay whatever this bed dina you know i wish you would have come with me i you know take your turnover dean he goes no so what's the problem he says my wife my ex-wife she just converted yesterday i said you mean satan's why you mean your ex-wife you may not because yeah yeah that one said how she doesn't keep shabbat he says rabbi she doesn't know what mukhta is i asked her after the conversion they asked you questions she said no not really says what are you going to do about muksey because she goes what's mooc say after the conversion he said i don't know what it is i said what do you mean how how'd they convert he said listen apparently the bet dean is friends with her new boyfriend why they're friends he's on the board of directors of the shul he's on the board a jew is already going with the goya so the bad dean said no come on let's convert it right away says kosher such a bad deen has to be destroyed i saw this with my eyes they converted that should not have any any connection whatsoever tommy said why because our boyfriend's on the board of directors of some big shul but the tzadik we're not ready for you we're not ready for you so this unfortunately happens this happens stuff like this happens all types of bad things happen which means what if you want to convert do what you're supposed to do follow the process difficult no difficult whatever it is keep going don't complain right when a kadoshima who is ready to say come my darling you are now part of my firstborn nation don't worry he will tell you and no one can get in the way no one can get in the way all of these resharing the delay and cause problems or give fake conversions for money this and for fame or to pretend like they're really nice people by converting the masses all that stuff that's not hashem saying i love you that's not shame hashem saying i love you you'll know it you'll know it you don't need to be the system you don't need to beat the system when he's ready you will know clearly hashem loves you i shouldn't want you to be you don't need to be the system just do what you're supposed to do follow what the rabbi says follow what allah says follow what the bad deen obviously make sure it's a kosher bad deen recognized by the rabbin and so on and so forth and i said you'll be fine trying to beat the system it's not a good idea why it shows you don't really want judaism you just want something it's like attaining some type of degree where if somebody told you listen we can give you your doctorate after one year in college who would say no who would say no one year in college you one month in college we'll give you a doctorate you can go to the hospital start giving surgery who would say no everybody say yes why first of all you save yourself a few hundred thousand dollars second of all you save yourself a bunch of time third of all you could already get a job first of all who wants to go to school but what does that mean you don't actually care about the doctorate you don't care about you know the skill you just want the job like if somebody just told you listen forget school i'll give you a quarter million dollars a year who wants to be a doctor anymore i just want to make money which means that if you just simply want to attain the degree regardless of whether you have to overcome any obstacles then you don't actually want to learn you just want a piece of paper if you just want a piece of paper in judaism don't convert go to printer press you know type yourself dear write your name you are whatever you are in your mind signed yourself print it out and that they put on your wall and 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