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Noahide Prayer Book (Siddur) - Is It Allowed?

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Rabbi Yaron Reuven Short Torah Clips avatar
Rabbi Yaron Reuven Short Torah Clips

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What does the think about individuals or organizations that create or sell Noah height seed books? Would it be permitted or would it be wrong? Thank you so much. Uh none of Israel uh were behind this uh this idea. I know that the labab chorebi uh was very uh uh proud advocate of the noahhide movement but really the uh the whole thing was has changed since he died almost 30 years ago. uh and the nohide movement uh that's under uh the opices of Kabad is really just an extension of Kabad because in their books and in their uh websites and everything they're constantly bringing everybody to the Rebi the Rebi is Msiah. So in so many words all of these nohides that left Christianity and the idolatry of Jesus are now replacing it with the idolatry of the Rebi. So this is obviously not a healthy thing uh and certainly should not be done and it's forbidden to be done. Uh as far as a Noahides sidu, you're not going to find a permission uh in any book that says that uh Noahides should be provided with aik book uh with a sided and a structured prayer because the Noahides are supposed to pray uh from their heart whatever they wish not to have a structured prayer book. if they write one for themselves, they can. But to give them a structure like that, that's not uh something that you're gonna find any of is doing. Uh that's number two. Number three, uh it's very problematic according to many opinions of the uh to spend uh the uh you know time actually teaching noahides in general like to exclude them and just have a course uh and a uh teachings only for noahides is problematic. It's Jews are not supposed to do that. Now I can teach now and I have many students that are noahhides but I'm not excluding myself to noahhides. It's just simply part of my teaching. If a noahhide wants to show up by all means they can show up. They can listen. But to uh to have a program only for noahides is problematic. Why? Because our obligation is to Jews. And you actually have uh certain like uh um uh a uh um uh who else? There's a couple of other that were very very much against it. Very very much against it. Uh so uh for them to have entire organizations just to cater to the Noahides and to sell them all these products that none of Israel supported and even permitted. Uh obviously that's not the way of Judaism. This is the reason why it's never been done before. Noahhides have always existed. You know it's even in the Torah it talks about Noahides. It talks about righteous Gentiles. Noahides is not a new thing. So, how come throughout the last 3,334 years that we have the Torah, that we have the great sages, that we have much greater sages that preceded us than ones that exist now? How come you're never going to find a single sage, a single hakam, a single rishon, a single tana, a single amora, a single great extraordinary rav even from any part of Judaism ever write a book that structured the prayers of the of the noightes? Not a single time. Why? What? What? Only this wisdom only came to the year 2000. No, it's because it's not allowed. You're not supposed to do it. They're they're not supposed to pray for aid. This is not this is not this is not a uh a mitzvah for them to do so. And in fact, it's a uh it's a very big problem. It's a very very big problem. Why? because as I've said in other uh shulim other lectures that it is making a uh mini Judaism you know it's it's making the noahites start acting feeling behaving and living as if they're Jews without the conversion and although that seems good it's actually not good or else it would have been done before why is it not good because if they want to be Jews then let them convert But if you're going to teach them that they could in essence get all of the benefits of Judaism, all the holidays, all the prayers, all the different teachings without the conversion, why should they convert? So in so many words, you're holding back conversion. And I could tell you that there is a story in the uh in the in about uh Alicia, Alicia, the Tal of Elawi. Alicia Navi, he had a servant named Gazi. Gazi was a Jew. Ghazi was a knew a lot of Torah. He used to teach Torah even. But Gazi says Gaz has no share of the world to come. He has no share of the world to come. He's in g. He's never coming out. Why? He slowed down conversion. He got in the way of conversion. So when people do things that are not in line with what the sages have taught us for the last several thousand years, automatically you should assume it's wrong. You should assume it's wrong. If anything that anyone tells you is not based on the Torah of yesterday year, there's something wrong with it. There's something wrong with it. Why? Because there's nothing new under the sun. If writing books specifically, you know, by rabbis to Noahites, by rabbis to the Noahide community, writing them a sidu, writing them, I don't know, certain types of books just to teach them. If that was a good idea, don't you think that the Rambam would have done it? He was surrounded by no hides. Don't you think the Ramban would have done it? He was surrounded by no hides. Don't you think that the leaders ofidut that preceded the labi would have done it? They were surrounded by them. Don't you think that the labbi himself would have done it? He was surrounded by it. He was even a pro- noahhide movement. But he never said to write books. He never said to do all this stuff that people are doing now in his name. Don't you think that any of the sages that literally lived among the the the Gentiles, associated with them, even befriended some of them, never wrote a single book, never wrote a single sidu for the Nohides. Why? Why? Why did this idea just appear now? It's sort of like this other guy that Hashem is no longer in the picture who brought this idea uh to the public pretending like he knows more than everybody else. And he told people that Gentiles not only are allowed but they should observe the Shabbat. And he had a whole little thing over it. And he taught people Yeah. Yeah. that their people are wrong telling Gentiles they're not allowed to keep Shabbat. That's incorrect. They don't know what they're talking about. Meaning the Rambam doesn't know what he's talking about. According to him, nobody knows what he's talking about until this little Momo came to the year 2020. And that's him and another guy, another uh uh rabbi were preaching, were traveling from place to place, wrote a few books, I think something called the G or something like that. uh and uh teaching everybody, oh yeah, the Noah hides they uh they uh they should keep Shabbat. Guess what? They were wrong then, they're wrong now. And eventually, Hashem uprooted it, uprooted them from teaching Torah. the the the one guy that was the most obnoxious one, the younger one, he uh not only left the world of teaching Torah in in such a capacity, I think he went and start working for some moving company like you know it's a I don't know he invested a lot of time exercising, lost a lot of weight and he became like a mover like I mean it's with all due respect to everybody that's in the moving business to go from being a so-called rabbi and a leader of the new world uh telling people that he knows more than the Rambam to being a mover. That's a pretty big punishment. He may not even realize he's being punished, but that's a pretty big punishment. That's pretty embarrassing. But there's no problem of embarrassing him. Why? He went against the Torah. He went against the Torah. He said that he could do something new. So all of those people that are teaching the Noahides exclusively that and they are rabbis they're Jewish rabbis are teaching the nohides exclusively are writing books for no hides exclusively are are you'll notice that they're not just doing that uh and teaching Jews you'll notice that they're only focusing on the no heights and you're not going to find that as part of the Jewish tradition as part of the uh masoit. So this is not something that any of Israel ever did before which by itself is a sign an indication and a clarification that this is forbidden. Uh and in fact if you go to by he says it's outright forbidden. Uh if you go to some of the other out and he brings sources I don't know maybe uh 150 sources 100 sources of why it's forbidden. Uh so it's a uh it's it's not a uh it's not a question uh for anyone that knows a little bit of Torah. It's only a question for the public that generally speaking doesn't know much. Uh and uh so again, if you're teaching and the Noah shows up, no problem. No problem. They could show up. They could listen to Mousar lectures. It's not a problem. But to go and make an entire uh organization just for Noahides and you're a Jewish rabbi, not allowed. Why? Your brother comes first. Your brother comes first. So what's the mot? Why would they do it? Why wouldn't these so-called rabbis cater to their own brothers, the Jewish people? Because they're not after people. They're after money. And that's the truth. That's the truth. Money is a priority to them over their brothers. We are meant to be a light unto the nations, not to follow their misguided practices. Remember, every Jew has to remember that he's a Jew and she's a Jew. We don't celebrate non-Jewish holidays, even if they seem harmless.