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Reb Nosson’s Royal Heritage

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As it relates to Rav Nosson, so the Gemara said that when Rav Nosson went to be Mesuyas Rav Shimon ben Gamliel, so Rav Shimon ben Gamliel told him, "Nechida hanilach kamra d'avuch l'mahvei av beis din aber shavina nami nasi." But not as I fight to become a nasi. So Rav Nosson's father, it seems like had a kamra. And that helped and assisted Rav Nosson to become the the av beis din of Azoy vait zu veren der nasi. That's already pushing it that much now. So what is this kamra? So Rashi says, "K'leimar d'hanilach shivuso d'avich d'havis av beis din." Rashi is giving you the k'leimar p'shat. Not the literal taitsch of the word kamra. He's giving you the k'leimar. What does it mean to say, right? But what is What is a kamra? What is the physical nature of a kamra? I saw in the sefer Toldos Tana'im the Amram from Rav Ahron Hyman, so on Rav Nosson, he starts of his follows. This is the opening paragraph. Aviv Avshalom niski b'shmoi. As it relates to Rav Nosson's father, even though he's not mentioned anywhere by name, that's why the insert has to be by Rav Nosson, not by his father cuz we don't know his name, so there's no place to put this entry, right? But says Rav Chaim Aviv Avshalom niski b'shmoi, aviyesh l'nu b'kabala mi'pi Rabbeinu Haigo'n. We have a kabala from Rav Haigo'n. Muva b'Aruch, it's brought down in the sefer Aruch erech kamra, under the word kamra, sh'haya reish kalusa d'Bavel. Rav Nosson's father was the reish kalusa d'Bavel. F'hu may chiyus d'Gemara d'veis. And the makor to it says Rav Haigo'n is a Gemara in Chiyus d'Gemara d'veis. Sh'Rav Shimon ben Gamliel to Rav Nosson, "Nechida hanilach kamra d'avuch l'mahvei av beis din." That your father's kamra assisted you to become the av beis din. The kamra hu chagura shel kesef v'zahav. It was a belt that was made of silver and gold sh'lo leif shan hasarim lifnei Malke Par'as. That all the ministers used to wear when they were in front of Par'as. But the bottom line is that's what this kamra is. True, this Rashi says avneis musaf, right? Rashi in the next Rashi says that it's a golden avnet. But if I would have told you the rest of the story, it's not that some decided that he wants to wear a right a golden belt buckle. That's not this inyan over here. This is an avnet that was made of kesef and zahav that the malchei Paras used to wear, that the malchei Paras used to wear when they stood up. But said with high "Do you want to know who Rav Nosson's father was? Rav Nosson's father was the rich guy who lives there." Why is this interesting? What comes to mind? What comes to mind is I think it's so poshut. And that is that we know who wrote the Mishnayos. Rebbi Yehudah HaNasi. Wrong. It's a mefuresh Gemara in Bava Metzia daf peh vov amud aleph. The Gemara says Rebbi v'Reb Nosson soif Mishnah. Rav Ashi v'Ravina soif Torah. So Rav Ashi v'Ravina soif Torah that everybody knows. But who wrote the Mishnayos? Everyone says Rebbi Yehudah HaNasi. It's always Rebbi Yehudah HaNasi. It's really Rebbi and Reb Nosson. And we once spoke out Or Yonah Mashiah from Rav Reuven Margolies in Margolies HaYam in the sechter HaNaggid daf lamed amud aleph. Where Rav Reuven Margolies said that why was Ravina Rav Ashi and why was Reb Nosson and Rebbi? He said because we know there were two epicenters of Torah at the time that the Tanna'im and Amora'im lived. There was the Torah that was in Bavel, Talmud Bavli, and then there was the Torah in Eretz Yisrael, the Talmud Yerushalmi. In order to write a Mishnayos, in order to have a Talmud, it was necessary for the Amora'im to know what stood in the Batei Midrashot in Eretz Yisrael and what stood in the Batei Midrashot that are in Bavel. That was the only way that this was going to be able to happen. So said said Rav Reuven Margolies, let's go backwards. Rav Ashi we know lived in Bavel, right? He was the head of the academy in Bavel. He needed a shutaf. He needed a shutaf in Eretz Yisrael that would assist him. Ravina we know lived in Eretz Yisrael. And that's the Ravina Rav Ashi, right? We speak out sometimes, even though Rav Ashi was Ravina's talmid, but in klalei psak there's a yesh omer, there's a shita d'Rishonim that holds that when there's a machlokes Ravina Rav Ashi the halacha is like Ravina. And it's based on the idea, it's based on the idea I fear Yisrael machkim, and we pass him like the one that lives in Israel, not the one that lives in Bavel. But either way, Ravina Rav Ashi one was in Israel, one was in Bavel. Cedra B'ruma Margolis, I believe the reason Rabbi Yehuda Nasi brought on board Rav Nosson cuz we know the Ikum Shnaim was written by Rabbi Yehuda Nasi. That's why everyone knows it as Rabbi Yehuda Nasi. Right, the Rambam waxes poetically about it in his Pirkei Avot that it took someone of the nature and the ilk of Rabbi Yehuda Nasi to be able to pull off such an incredible feat, right? Talks about who he was, his relationship with Antoninus, even the Shulchan Aruch is called Halacha that he had that Torah Matiken. But he needed at the end of the day a Shutaf. He needed a partner. He needed someone that was stationed in Bavel. Who does he take? Rav Nosson. Why Rav Nosson? Rav Nosson we know is known as Rav Nosson HaBavli. But why Rav Nosson? From all the Tana'im that are in Bavel, why did he take Rav Nosson? He doesn't say. I think it's partial. It's this, right? Because who's Rav Nosson? Rav Nosson is someone who had tremendous protection. His father's the Reish Galuta. Rav Shimon bar Gamliel told him, "A honey look camera da l'uch da amiyo da tzedek." So you see, he was someone that was incredibly connected. The higher it's partial. That's the rest of the story to that shtickel of Rav Reuven Margolis as it relates to why the Shutaf that Rabbi Yehuda Nasi would have taken would have been Rav Nosson HaBavli.