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Rejuvenation: The Elimination of Soleimani

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[Music] hi everybody this is Eve Harrow on rejuvenation 4 at the Land of Israel Network it is Saturday night January 4th 2028 day of T vet 5780 I'm sitting here with Carolyn Glick a few days ago I was in touch with her because I've been wanting to interview her for a long time and I said like you know we set it up Saturday night and she said great and then she said what are we going to talk about and I said I don't know something will come up so yesterday something came up big time so first of all Carolyn Shevat ov and happy 2020 Shavua Tov Shavua Tov it's great to finally be able to sit down and talk with you about what you know just such a few things that are going on you know it's so boring in our part of the world yes great to be here could always talked about the winter weather that finally hit or the anti-semitism that's all over America I think is that which we might talk about anyway but Qasem Soleimani if I pronounced that right what are you thinking I'm thinking that this is just almost a seismic event I mean what people don't understand just how important sulemani is to the entire Iranian empire-building scheme to the Iranian Empire to Iran's terror net Nexus throughout the world this man is the architect of so much mayhem and death and chaos and suffering in the Middle East and throughout the world and you know now I saw that Democrats in the United States for Seoul I think that they're out of their mind and we have to talk about that separately but I mean they're attacking Trump for ordering his his his killing and referring to him as a foreign leader and so I think it's really important for us to talk a little bit about you know who he is and what he did and what the significance of his being killed by the US military really is so for those who don't know I didn't even introduce you because it's just like I just assume everybody knows you are Carolyn Glick journalist author political commentator yada-yada not and for those who don't know you're also embedded with the US troops in you out 2003 2003 back in the day yeah when we were all innocent and I mean not really innocent because we in Israel I've been going through this for so many years but the Americans were were innocent they didn't really understand what was happening in the Middle East and they came in sort of willy-nilly and overthrew Saddam Hussein thinking that if they got rid of him that that was going to be great and it would all you know change the world but it did in a way that they hadn't foreseen because they didn't understand the hornet's nest that they were getting into it said I was saying was a was a Sunni and Iraq much like Lebanon is a multi-ethnic state it has Sunnis and it has Shiites it used to have Christians a fairly large Christian minority now they're all gone as a result of the overthrow of Saddam and they have Yazidis who are also basically gone now because of Isis that came later but the point is that as an end the Kurds they used to have Jews too but the Jews got out and did not willingly also centuries decades ago right but they're almost no Jews there when when the Americans invaded but yes there was a very large Jewish community in Basra and Baghdad the Jews were a third of the population of Basra in 1948 a very large I think was the largest minority and in Baghdad as well so there ya know man it was a it was a Jewish community that had been in Iraq since the destruction of the first temple but that hasn't made the point is that like the Assad's in Syria the the Bast's it's this fascist party and they were in charge of Iraq with Saddam Hussein and also with the Assad dynasty in Syria and they were minorities the Sunnis are the minority in in in Iraq and the Alaa whites are minorities in in Syria and because there were minorities they sort of glued together the society by pressing everybody equally and they allowed other minorities to work with them because they trusted them so who are the majority and in Iraq are the are the Shiites now Iranians are also Shiites they're not Arabs but they're Shiites and so when the Americans overthrew Saddam and said that they wanted to turn Iraq into a democracy what they were saying was that they wanted to have open elections popular elections and that and they didn't really know what that meant and what that meant was that they were empowering the Shiite majority to take over Iraq which from an American perspective sounds reasonable but when you're dealing with multi-ethnic societies with no past tradition of democracy what you're really doing is allowing Iran which is also Shiite to come in and subvert everything that you're trying to accomplish so over the intervening many years since the American invasion in 2003 the Iranians use the demócrata the democracy that the Americans were ushering in in order to subvert Iraq and in order to continue to destabilize it in the name of Shiite empowerment and they brought they formed all these militias they by the way they also enabled engendered and and directed Al Qaeda in Iraq I mean the the heads of al Qaeda in Iraq were actually imported into Iraq from Iran they all were headquarters in Iran and then they came into Iraq so throughout this period when the Americans were fighting the insurgency the insurgency was actually being directed by Iran all of this is just a long way of saying something very very plain which is that although Iraq richly deserved to be invaded from the perspective of their destabilizing role their hatred of the United States their support for terrorism under Saddam Hussein they weren't the real engine of the problem in fact even the 9/11 terrorists a lot of them flew through Iran and they were trained by Hezbollah and this is all in the 9/11 report that came out after the after the attacks in 2001 that the Americans didn't understand they said up 15 Saudis with a Saudi operation but no it was actually very much the brainchild of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps which brings us to suleimani when you think about who it was was most destabilizing force in the Middle East in the last 20 years it was sulemani it wasn't saddam hussein it wasn't even the taliban in afghanistan as strange as that may seem it was the head of the Revolutionary Guard forces codes force does the coots force said he that he commanded it is all of Iran's external operations outside of Iran by the way they are also involved in repressing all of the anti regime protests inside of Iran so they the Reuters report came out last week or a week and a half ago that that the regime killed a thousand five hundred protesters in a week the people who did that were all directed by sulemani so basically all of the death inside of Iran was also directed by suleimani a lot of the repression is directed by him he's the most powerful man in Iran aside from Khomeini who is the supreme leader meaning the dictator of Iran and his number two guy sulemani but sulemani from our perspective as israelis as anybody who lives outside of iran was the most important Iranian because he was the one who is in charge of Hezbollah not only physical in Lebanon because Bala all over the world all of their operatives in Europe that commit terrorist attacks in places like Burgas Bulgaria where they killed Israeli tourists a few years ago all of their operations in Germany all of their operations in France all of their operations in England they're all directed by Qasem Soleimani in Latin America all of the Hezbollah presence in in Latin America and there's an enormous amount in Brazil in brenda's whele most importantly in Nicaragua in Bolivia all of that is directed by Qasem Soleimani the operation that was in 2009 I think 2004 they were planning on assassinating the Saudi ambassador in Washington it was the el coots force had made a deal with one of the rush the Mexican drug cartels to carry out an explosive attack on Cafe Milano in Georgetown because that's where the to kill the Saudi Arabia what ambassador while he was dining there and that was also the Qasem Soleimani so all of the international terrorism of Iran was directed by Qasem Soleimani and then the other thing from a regional perspective that he directed was the war in Syria Iran when the Syrians rising up against Bashar al-assad in 2011 because of the economic devastation the ecological devastation of Syria that caused the destruction of agriculture in Syria mass urbanization and Colonel or refugee crisis water shortages inside of Syria they certain rising up as part of the Arab Spring the person who was most responsible for the war that followed those protests was Qasem Soleimani because he he was the one that was directing all of the operations the mass death of chemical weapons attacks all of the attacks against the Syrians who were rising up against the Assad regime in order to maintain acid cause Assad is his puppet and so the whole Ward that displaced 10 million people outside of Syria caused massive dislocation inside of Europe was responsible for all of the Terrorism inside of Europe that we saw in 2015 2016 and so on and so forth that's all his handiwork there's all a result of what he did in in Syria not only in Syria in Iraq you see five hundred protesters have been killed by by the Shiite proxy militias by the Shiite militias inside of Iraq since they started anti-iranian protests in Iraq and note in October all of those protesters were killed at the behest of his passing through the money so just in the last two months he's killed 500 Iraqis who have been rising up against against Iran and him and so this is the whole Iranian operation in Yemen it's directed where they use the Houthis which is sort of a Shiite tribe inside of Yemen that have been taking over the country and securing the Bible mondop which is a major strategic waterway that together with the Straits of Hormuz give Iran basic control over all of the oil products transiting the from Saudi Arabia to world oil markets that's all Qasem Soleimani so the entire Iranian Empire building project that extends to Yemen through Iraq through Syria through Lebanon that's all sulemani and this man is no dead I mean he had no replacement and I don't know you know what's gonna happen but this his killing but and the fact that the Americans did it and did it publicly and took responsibility for it is like the kind of humiliation of the Iranian regime in the middle of a domestic insurrection of a huge protest movement that they quelled by you know just spilling rivers of blood of Iranians just last month or in late in late November now we're in early January I mean this is this is unbelievable the implications of strategic implications a human implication the humanitarian implications of this monster now being dead are just almost impossible to get your arms around so there's a few things one of them is if this guy has been really the head of such an evil snake for a long time you have to ask what took so long to some degree right we had eight years of Obama so it's not like they thought this guy was Mother Teresa at any point so that's one question and the other point that you made which i think is incredibly important for Western audiences is the humiliation all right because we here who live in the Middle East and as a matter fact dr. Harold Road who's an expert on this the shame the honor the idea of humiliation and that at least happens to be in my house right now also at another meeting it's not is is a huge part of why they're gonna have to respond because and it's also a reason why Israel is never going to be able to have peace treaties are the neighbors because we've won wars against them and humiliated them that's not undone by signing a piece of paper and I don't think that Westerners understand that enough that idea of if you're humiliated you have to lash back so so the first question you ask is why did it take so long and so first of all the Bush administration apparently I saw it was reported yesterday that they had an opportunity to kill him in 2004 and they decided not to and the British administration is really sort of an interesting thing because they made the president made after the invasion of Iraq a strategic decision which was a huge mistake to limit all of the US operations to Iraq and it was insane it was such a stupid thing to do and it really caused the war in Iraq to be something that was both unwinnable and also not worth the price because it was entirely directed from Iran it was an Iranian war against the United States that was being fought against US forces in Iraq all of the all of the militias that were fighting the United States were being armed and trained and directed from Iran by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps byesville by sulemani and you know others but he was the epicenter of the of the insurgency in Iraq and the same is true with the Sunnis and Karl Rove made this statement like right after the invasion said we're done invading countries and because Rumsfeld there were all these reports at the WMD that the United States presumably went into you know purportedly weapons of mass destruction weapons of mass destructions went into Iraq because of that they were all going to Syria which was true by the way and and also being buried I mean why is it that Isis was able to use chemical weapons after they took over Mosul in 2014 because the reports were true they were being buried and hidden in Iraq and also in Syria a lot of those weapons were used against civilians inside of Syria by the regime by the Iranian forces that were assisting Assad they knew where all of it was because they were directing the evacuation of the weapons of mass destruction from Iran from Iraq in 2003 so Karl Rove said we're done and this was after Rumsfeld had said who was a defense secretary at the time that the United States was going to go in hot pursuit into Syria and then Colin Powell who was Secretary of State responded to that by flying to Damascus and representing Assad as a man of peace so it was like this this reaction in this counter reaction they said no more Wars but the minute that you have a war being fought against you know it's like Vietnam where the Soviets were using Cambodia as a and of course North Vietnam as a means to transit fighters and everything to the south and then of course to invade South Vietnam and when the Nixon administration made a decision that they weren't going to go into Cambodia that they weren't going to go into Laos that they weren't going to go into North Vietnam they basically gave control over the entire over the entire map to the Russians and that was when the Americans lost and so when the Bush administration repeated that mistake in 2003 and they said they weren't going to go after the Iranian so they weren't going to go after the Syrians which were the engines of the war being fought against the US forces they were saying we're gonna lose this war so it was at that moment that they should have just picked up the 3rd Infantry Division the 4th Infantry Division and the Marine Corps and taken them home because if you don't want to fight the war that's being fought against you then you're gonna lose the war that's being fought against you and that's really what ended up happening and that was Bush and with Obama what happened was that he changed his strategy completely he said all right we're gonna realign the United States in the Middle East away from our traditional allies the Sunnis and the Israelis and we're going to realign America towards Iran that was what the whole nuclear deal was about it wasn't about nuclear non-proliferation because they were giving Iran the bomb and they said within 10 years they're gonna have an arsenal and that's fine with us they were they enabled the Iranians to build a nuclear arsenal that was what the jcpoa did that was why so many people were so viciously opposed to it because anybody truly understands what Iran is understands that the minute that these people get a bum there's gonna be a nuclear war and if you're anti-nuclear then you have to do everything in your power to prevent them from getting a nuclear bomb but that wasn't what Obama was about he was about being anti-american and an anti-israel and anti Sunni he was for the Muslim Brotherhood which is why he supported the overthrow of America's closest Arab ally Hosni Mubarak in in Egypt even though he knew that there was only one force that could take over Egypt which was a Muslim Brotherhood which they did in 2013 and and so he and he was for Iran which is why he made the deal with them that gave them a hundred and fifty billion dollars in sanctions relief he gave them four hundred fifty mm and dollars and cash and he didn't touch till the money no it's not just that he didn't touch through the money did you see jcpoa stipulates that seven years after the conclusion of the agreement which depending on how you look at it can either be 2021 or 2022 because if it was the initial it was initialized in 2014 and then the extended agreement was concluded in July of 2015 but that all sanctions against soleimani were going to be cancelled so that the agreement was actually whistle of money and it was for his benefit personally so it empowered soleimani both monetarily and politically because it legitimized everything he was doing in Syria the Obama had a reaction to the to the taking of Soleimani you know Shabbat just ended here in Israel so I haven't been paying attention but you know all of his surrogates have been all over Twitter since it came on I mean you know and Friday morning in his real-time saying how horrible it has been Rhodes Samantha power all of them and they're there it's pathological I mean how could they possibly be moan the assassination of the most prolific killer that was alive until yesterday on on earth and yet they they are and that just shows how deeply rotten evil horrific anti-american yeah anti-american anti-semitic pro-iranian and pro not even pro-iranian because of course you have millions of Iranians who are praying for the overthrow of the regime pro-iranian totalitarianism or Islamic totalitarianism whether it's of the Muslim Brotherhood variety or of the Iranian variety the Obama administration truly was how totally destructive they were to American society and to America's strategic interests and of course to America's own allies which is why you know it's it you know that was the other remarkable thing so you know about the the question of humiliation that you asked about I think it's really important to look at this from their perspective because you know we always feel bad like you know if somebody attacks you and then you hit really hard in front of all the pretty girls in class and in the end you kind of feel embarrassed I shouldn't have done that I heard what you bad you know now he's gonna hate me for whatever but that's not how our enemies see it because we'd like to be gallant and victory or with what did Lincoln say in the second inaugural with I'm gonna ruin his thing but it was the basic idea was that you're you're not gonna hate anybody unnecessarily that you're with charity for all is how he ended that beautiful clause which I don't want to mangle so the idea was that you want to be gallant and victory you don't want to be cruel be gracious as the winner exactly be gracious as a winner and then and so we look at everything we don't want them to be humiliated because then they'll be mad at us but no that's not true the thing that keeps the peace between Israel and its allies is that they were humiliated not that they were treated well because it's the humiliation that deters them it's what makes them not fight so that if you're a genocide all Iranian theocrats in the that the coming of the Messiah is gonna happen any day and that that's gonna assure in an Armageddon where you're gonna annihilate the Jewish state annihilate the United States of America and and introduce a global theocracy under the banner of the Iranian theocracy then if you're humiliated it's like they're killing your God and you can't get back a god that's dead but that doesn't make them want to fight harder to on to bring honor and take shame away from what just happened yes and no because they're their entire theology was exposed as as as a lie and so what you also have is a lot of revisitation of belief systems by its adherents so that that's that's not true I mean if you think about it from the perspective of a believer so some of them are going to believe till the bitter end you know like some of the people who were in the Soviet gulag were drawing pictures of Stalin on the walls of their cells you know because they still believed at him still believed that he was the big brother and he he was gonna save them even though he was the reason they were in Siberia and starving to death but they still believed so that yeah you'll have people like that but you also have a lot of people who wake up from the delusion and walk away and in fact most people are gonna do that because most people aren't the true believers most people are the people who go with the winners and so when you humiliate them like this when you kill Soleimani and you brag about it just like when you know Donald Trump killed Baghdady and talked on and on and on about the beautiful dog who killed him he humiliated Baghdady and humiliated his followers they were embarrassed they were ashamed because he humiliated them and then he brought the dog to the White House I mean that was one of the most powerful psychological operations Americans have done since 9/11 because he finally gets it that you have to humiliate them and so by killing sulemani what you're saying among other things not just a theological issue it's also the winner loser issue you know Obama didn't want to win you know he was so embarrassed that they killed Osama bin Laden and you know and he kept going on about how he had like a full Islamic funeral ceremony like anybody cares you know why would he get one like that's stupid why didn't you wrap his body in pigskin and throw him in a dumpster you know that's what he deserved right but no and and that would have been a really smart thing to do psychologically in fact show him in a pigskin being thrown into a dumpster that would have been really great but you know whatever Obama didn't do that and Trump is the kind of person who would do that and it's not just from a theological perspective that it's important to so from a psychological perspective because whose side you want to be on whose side you wanna be on you want to be on the side of the winners not on the side of the losers and the lame losers were killed by a dog a beautiful dog when your whole religious system is based on the idea that a dog is unclean and discussing it's amazing do you feel like a loser who wants to continue fighting for a bunch of losers who wants to be identified with losers the answer is not them they want to be with this site that's winning so the likelihood of desertion just increased tremendously long the Shia forces among the people who are in the Revolutionary Guard Corps and not just that the the prospect now of the United States and other foreign intelligence agencies being able to recruit spies within the the the the Revolutionary Guard Corps that was commanded by suleimani increased dramatically now because they want to be with the winners if they think that their site is about to lose and plus you have hundreds of thousands of Iranians who have were on the street just a couple weeks ago calling for the overthrow of the regime until they were violently put down by Khamenei II you know you're you're talking about a recipe for the new complete these civil destabilization of the Iranian regime which is fantastic again you know one of the things that we've forgotten in our you know morally relative age that we're living in a postmodern age is that we forget that there is a distinction between good and evil and we forget that there's a reason why you have to win wars and that it's in the service of morality it's in service of goodness because we are the good guys you know you don't go around killing people who protest against you you know you don't Massacre children in front of their parents to scare their parents into submission or children massacred their mothers in front of them to scare them into submission you don't do things like that but in Iran they do because they're evil and we want to do everything that we can to destabilize and overthrow this regime because they're our enemy they're the enemy of the Iranian people they're the enemy of the Jewish people they're the enemy of the American people they're the enemy of everybody they're Saudis of everybody who wants to live their way and not the Iranian theocrats way and they're brutal they're seeking and you know about to complete a nuclear weapons Pro they have cruise missiles that they used guided missiles that they used to destroy half of Saudis oil infrastructure in September they have agents all over the world who have been trained to kill on a massive scale and they've used those skills in the past we saw in the army about bombing in in 93 you know the largest massacre of Jews since the Holocaust you know in Argentina in Argentina and Buenos Aires the Jewish Community Center you know you you you've seen their handiwork all 241 Marines who were killed by these people in 1983 in Beirut and so on and so forth so as Israelis who are little wary of Hezbollah that are sitting with lots of missiles in southern Lebanon another Iranian proxy you think that that might have an effect on Orcas bodasse thinking as well I think Chris Bala is terrified and I think you know I was saying before before Shabbat yesterday I posted on my Facebook page picture of nasrallah I was crying you know booth fussing this rally the Secretary General of Hezbollah he's to the manis you know Lebanese sycophant raised its proxies is sycophant he he he took all of his orders from sulemani his because who MIT was essentially the commander of Kabbalah and ice and I wrote on top of it then you know they had my next you know it's because the Iranians announced three days of mourning first of the money fantastic let's take advantage of them let's kill nasrallah why is he still alive i mean you know the thing is is that you you get a bakwin to fight these people when these things happen they're scared the psychological impact of losing your commander is enormous it's enormous do you think it's good that America is taking this on itself and all the credit because it would seem to me just from the little that I know that he's maybe Israeli telogen maybe even other intelligence let's say from England must have had some help here and Middle East you know helping the United States to a lot of intelligence went into that but America is right now taking all the credit all the blame although whatever you want on its own and Israel is staying very quiet what do you think about that I think it's fantastic it's about time that somebody take credit for things you know Israel destroyed the Syrian nuclear reactor in Traktor in in 2007 and Condoleezza Rice who was was a strategic thinker you know with the brain of a mushroom I mean she was so wrong about everything that she said and did she just was horrible and she gave terrible advice to George Bush was a terrible Secretary of State a terrible national security adviser and she ordered Israel after the strike first of all she opposed it she wanted to talk about it at the new United Nations Security Council which would have enabled the Syrians you know to develop a bomb in six months of negotiations just like we saw with North Korea and just like we're seeing with with Iran under the under the Iranian nuclear the under the nuclear deal that they concluded with Obama so that would have been a disaster and everyone yelled at Menachem Begin also see Iraq in 1981 right so exactly and then they came back and they and they licked his boots for having saved them and enabled essentially everything that came afterwards for better or for worse but so Condoleezza Rice ordered then really prime ministerial DOMA to keep to keep mum about it not to saying it didn't want to embarrass Bashar al Assad you know that's that sort of that's lunatic because you want to be able to say we're better than you are we're stronger than you are we're not afraid of you we're willingness to stare you down we're gonna take you down because you want to empower the people inside of those countries who oppose their regime to oppose it to not be scared because I mean that was what happened and in the Green Revolution when millions of Iranians came out into the streets in 2009 after the regime stole the elections from the winners and they gave it back to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad even though he won like twenty percent of the vote so the people came out they said our votes matter and there we have millions of people in the streets and then you know and then the regime started killing them all and they were screaming into their into their cell phones and posting online Obama whose side are you on because Obama was on the side of Ali Khamenei and the people who were killing them that was what he he wanted he didn't want that regime to be overthrown he wanted to make peace with that regime he wanted that regime to replace Israel as the United States as chief ally in the Middle East because he thinks that you know they're better than America it's just like you ran around apologizing to everybody for America being good for eight years that was who he was and here you're seeing Secretary of State Pompeo you're seeing President Trump you're seeing you know other very important Americans Brian Hook secretary Esper saying we stand with the Iranian people we believe in the future of Iran we believe in you but we understand that this regime is evil so when you take responsibility for for doing something that harms a regime that is oppressing its own people and the future of Iran depends on them standing up and being counted against these overlords who are killing them and their children I mean that's a very important thing Israel you know we're not in a position to that and the Americans did learn after Iraq that they don't understand anything about the Middle East you know they don't I mean they had no idea what they were doing when they went into Iraq I say this as somebody who loved the soldiers who who I went into Iraq with I mean I was in continuous combat with these guys there were wonderful people the best Americans I ever met in my life and I mean it and and a lot of them died because of misguided policy a lot of them died a lot of them died and a lot of them came back you know with traumatized by what they had gone through and they are the best of the best and there are the people who least deserve this they were deserved by a government that never bothered to figure out what it was doing before it did it you don't just send people will nilly into a foreign land that you don't understand and tell them to take it over you they didn't know what they were doing but that's a completely different issue the point is just that the people who do understand what's happening are the people who live there and we know that this regime is evil for what it does outside of Iran they know what it's doing is evil from the way that they experience it every day inside of Iran I don't know if they you know if God willing this regime is overthrown I don't know who the people are gonna take over are and I don't know whether they're gonna be any better but they'll be weaker and so we have an interest and then coming in and doing the best they can and then you can help them you don't want to choose sighs too much because you don't understand enough about them but you know get rid of one problem you can deal with the next one when it comes up in the meantime this regime has been at war with the United States for 41 years you know since they took over the embassy in in November of 1979 and took these Americans who were there as diplomats you know that was the other thing in a way which I thought it was very important in that the American media in its corrupted state has been hiding sulemani directed the invasion of the US embassy compound in Iraq last week that was his brainchild he has been directing the entire operation of the area of the Iraqi government and of the Shiite militias inside of Iraq since the beginning of the protests in October and this was his decision to have the militia go in and try to take down the embassy last week this was an operation that for people who have looked at the footage or remember the takeover of the US Embassy in Tehran in 1979 it looks very familiar because it's the same operation and the and the corrupted New York Times and CNN that refer to them as mourners and as protesters are are an obscenity there are an embarrassment to the public to the profession of journalism that they could dare to do that these people were even in uniform they were even you know they weren't trying to hide what they were doing was the New York Times I was trying to hide who they were which is just such a miscarriage of everything that they're supposed to stand for but again that's another issue the point is that they conducted a military operation against the United States whose goal was the overthrow the destruction of perhaps a taking captive of US diplomatic personnel inside of the US Embassy which was an act of war against the United States you know as as much as the over the takeover of the US Embassy in Tehran in 1979 was as the killing of the ambassador in Libya although that went on you know most people don't even remember that anymore in Benghazi and also you know and yes so you've had repeated attacks on US embassies and in Nairobi and in in in Tanzania in 1998 you've had repeated attacks on US diplomatic compound since 1979 and this is the first time that the United States cop and to competently responded to that sort of attack on their sovereignty and so this was a very important just if I mean and that's the thing is that this operation was so important on so many different levels it accomplished so many goals at the same time it was it was truly beautiful it was justice well served against an evil evil man who's extraordinarily dangerous to all humanity and the fact that anybody is criticizing it is crazy the fact that the Democratic Party is criticizing it adds the party I mean I'm so Nancy Pelosi attacked it you have you have all of these you know and it just shows that the anti-semites the anti Americans have taken over the Democratic Party they have Corbyn eyes the Democratic Party and has become an anti-american party it has become an anti-semitic party and and it's terrifying that this has happened but their responses to the killing of one of the most dangerous men on the face of the planet one of the greatest and grievous enemies to the United States to the Saudi Arabian government who to Israel to all good people in the region and in the world and of course the Iranian people first and foremost if they could mourn his death or boom on the killing of this man is really a testament to how low they have fallen and how dangerous they have become and so I think you know that's another sort of kind of bright light that has been shiny of you a wake-up call to the Americans I don't know I mean the people who are in that boat are there you know and I don't know I don't know what the people hate Trump hate Trump there's just no there's no talking about of it you know there are also these sort of psychotic never Trump Republicans you know that you see but I maybe even wanted two of them will wake up I doubt it because they're now you know they're very happy and MSNBC and CNN I don't know I don't know I mean I saw when he said that Jake Tapper from CNN used to beats you know semi-reasonable he's completely out of his mind he he interviewed treati Parsi who is an Iranian regime lobbyist in Washington defending Soleimani and he never attacked him for it apparently it was quite at quite an easy friendly interview with this man who has been defending these mass murderers who are nuclear proliferate or who run the largest terror operation mankind has ever seen and that is actively building an empire swallowing up Iraq Yemen Syria and Lebanon the cost of millions of lives where do you see Russia in all this look Russia has been on ally of Iran you know Russia's an ally of Iran and you know are they gonna feel like they have to now step up and do something I don't think that they're gonna do anything for a run I think on the other hand that again you know that's the whole concept of winning the psychological impact of harming an enemy he said he's weakened and that's good because then he's less attractive to possible allies because you don't want to go with the guy who's gonna lose people choose why is it that Israel is doing so well diplomatically why is it that over the past decade Israel has developed such good and sort of unprecedented relations with all of these countries that never never thought about having serious relations with us it is because our economy is is doing great it's because we've developed all of these technologies that people want it's because we're winning it's because you know from a security perspective we seem to be getting our house in order you know obviously from our perspective it's it's a mixed bag but from the outside looking in it looks like we've got our stuff together and you know we're selling natural gas now to Cyprus and to Greece and connecting ourselves with Europe via the Mediterranean and to Egypt and to Jordan I mean we're becoming energy independent Israel Israel is becoming energy independent that like we used to just mean what were our exports when I was growing up in America we used to sell towels you know what I mean oranges yeah and oranges I mean it we would use room was nothing it was nothing and now everything is coming here everybody's coming here you know we're building cars you know because we're building the computer to run the cards you know I mean it's all all of the technologies here you you go to Tel Aviv and you see the research headquarters afford you know I mean they're like one thing there's one major company in the world that doesn't have some kind of R&D here now it's amazing so you see all of these people coming to us be why it's because we're perceived as a winner we're perceived as a strong stable economy and military that again has it's tough together people want to be with people who they perceive and with countries that they perceive as doing well as winning they don't want to be with losers how many people are lining up to do business with Venezuela even though they have the largest proven reserves you know like outside of the outside of the arabian peninsula and of oil i mean it would seem like yeah in spite of everything because they're a failed state that's why nobody wants to have anything to do with venezuela because they understand that it's just sinking money into a hole and so nobody's gonna go to venezuela and so you know it where do you want to go to make investments people want to go to eat know they're afraid to go to Egypt because the Muslim Brotherhood might take over tomorrow you know and so he's also been very quiet he's got so many internal problems I think they had a million people to gear to their population they have 93 94 million people that they have enough reserves to feed for maybe the next three months I mean Egypt which used to be Z you know Arab state and these superpower on that level here in the Middle East and now it's like a sidebar it's really the the silence is deafening coming out of Egypt like but getting back to Russia because you know we spoke about empire building and that's obviously where Iran's going so you've got Russia which is on that path as well and you also have Turkey and these are kinda I want us I don't know if you like a little loose cannon here I mean where do you see these two countries coming into the picture now in the next few days look in the next few days I don't know but at where Diwan is a strategic threat to Israel and it's a strategic threat to United States and he is an enemy and he's an enemy that's also an ally of NATO a NATO member and it's a problem because if you look at where Turkey is on the map I'm just you know sometimes I do this I just stare at the map of the world for a while and to really because a lot of times I mean even I see with my articles and you know I try tell my editors you have to put a map in and then they don't you know they want to put an illustration and they don't put a map and and a lot of the stuff you can't understand unless you look at the geography you have to understand where people are what are they involved in what what are they in charge of what water do they border or not border you know and when you look at Turkey on the map you see well maybe you could do something with George maybe you can do something with either by jean and and like get around turkey this way or that way but turkey just this big thing it traverses Europe and Asia and it it's you don't want to give it to Russia and yet you can really lose Turkey so you can kind of understand where the US military in spite of everything won't take its nuclear arsenal outside of Incirlik airbase why it won't reduce its its its dependence on Incirlik for its air operations and in Central Asia in the Middle East because they don't want to get rid of it it's you can't you can't replace geography so then the question is well what do you do about Aryan one and the answer is you stop empowering him you know I mean that's the problem and that is something that I think the Trump is doing wrong you know you know obviously I don't know everything that's going on but I mean he key is publicly praising air21 and that's a really big mistake I mean one of the one of the and you know Harold Road for instance to somebody who could speak to this better than I but I thought my stakin you know they had pastor Brunson that was an American evangelical pastor living in in in Turkey for about twenty years and and mission mission izing in in in Turkey he had a church and he was arrested after the attempted fit the failed coup against air21 and in 2016 and he was essentially being held hostage because he didn't do anything I mean it's just this pastor and some you know bumble town you know anywhere whatever and he he was a nobody but he was an American and they were holding him hostage and it was fairly clear that he was a hostage so last year Trump started putting sanctions on Turkey until pastor Bronson was let out because he has a very large of angelical constituency and they brought it to his notice and so we did it and he was publicly threatening Aaron a lot and it was around that time that air21 started losing elections so he lost for instance the election to the mayor of Istanbul which is where he got his political start and there's supposed to be like a focal point of of the of his party of Islamism in in in in Turkey and yet he lost and then he tried to steal the election he canceled the results of the election there was a reelection and he lost even worsse his candidate his party and I would say again the Turks aren't stupid you know they understand now what's happening with air too and a lot of them really support him very much because they are Islamist they're Islamic extremists but a lot of them don't and you know it's gotten to the point with air21 especially with him buying the Russian anti-ballistic missile as400 system which is not as they say interoperable with NATO f-35 to the Americans stop delivery of the f-35 is turkey ordered a hundred of them last year you know you want to not be as friend but then after Bronson was released I mean I'm sure because of the Pentagon that doesn't want to get rid of Incirlik you know that doesn't that it's looking at the map saying we can't lose Turkey don't look for the quick fix okay don't leave Incirlik all right I would get rid of I would take some of those nuclear weapons out of Incirlik but I've been saying that for years nobody's listening to me you know whatever I do whatever you want but the way to maintain Incirlik it's not to empower the guy who's endangering Incirlik it's to not strengthen him it's to recognize that he is an enemy of the United States that what he stands for and what he is transforming turkey into is bad for America and that means fine don't get rid of your real estate keep your real estate nobody's telling you to stop but why do you have to be so nice to the guy why do you have to empower the guy don't empower him just by not empowering him by pointing out when he's holding an American pastor hostage and and putting sanctions on him he's already losing steam inside of his own country let the people of Turkey take care of their air too one problem he's their problem they want to be treated well in the world they want people to invest in the Turkish economy then they have an interest in weakening him and not allowing him to be president for life they have an interest let them act on their interest don't don't you don't have to do everything America doesn't have to a nation build but one thing it definitely shouldn't be doing is empowering the people are harming and so that's you know that's really what how I view Turkey and how I view everything you know fine don't let the Iranians take care of the regime give them the tools to take care of the regime don't throw in the 4th Infantry Division and take care of the regime and Iran but if Iran has nuclear installations that have to be taken out take them out just like you take out sulemani you know there are things that are your look nuclear installations in Iran are problem for the entire world the Iranian the existence of the regime itself that's the Iranian people's problem to 1500 of them were killed in two weeks by these people and when you talk about an Iranian regime where women have one point nine children per family you know they're not interested in sacrificing their children there is no such thing as cannon fodder in a country that's below replacement level fertility rates so again what are you thinking about Putin there are there any pressure points that the United States can put there because I mean is Russia democracy can the Russians take care of Putin do they even want to as I was in Saint Petersburg in June talking to people yeah I mean they're not very happy there there's kind of a veneer and they're still not where they want to be but did they see a replacement for him do they like what he's doing by getting bigger and bigger on the world stage no but I think part of the problem there is that the United States doesn't have a lot of leverage with Russia anymore because the Chinese have sort of taken over the eye Russian economy which is a completely different issue and we don't have time to talk about it today but you know you have to look realistically at what you can do and you have to look realistically at the threats that you can handle and the ones that you're gonna have to leave for another day you know that means that you try to neutralize them as much as possible but you're not going to take them out today and so like for instance my friend David Goldman who's really an expert on the on the trade war between the Chinese and the Americans and he's very critical of of what the president has been doing with the trade agreement with right with the Chinese you know he wrote to some blur very briefly I think on his Facebook page where he was saying that the Chinese and the trade deal got the got the better end that they got the better outcome than the Americans and that it's translated and had their stay there their stock market is has gone up much higher than that then the New York Stock Exchange has as a result of the agreement and he may be right but the question is this what are you what are your core competencies what can you work on today what are the things that you can take off your plate that are going to enable you to develop the tools to deal with China because you know a lot of the things he's been talking about like the 5g my husband is a physicist and so he understands his stuff a lot better than I do and he said look the there's a lot of hype about Chinese fifth generation internet it's not it's not nearly ready and it's not as good as people are making it out to be but which is which is good to know for instance most people don't know that I certainly didn't know that until he told me and the thing is is that you have to develop American technology there are a lot of long-term issues that the United States has to deal with and in the meantime you don't want to get bogged down with Iran having a nuclear weapon you don't want to get bogged down with Turkey being empowered because you're you're sucking up to your enemy air Tawan you don't want to be bogged down with to Putin either I mean you don't want to overthrow Putin what does that mean even like who's gonna take over oh yeah you know George Washington is gonna come riding in on his horse and they're gonna take over Russia and turn it into America of course not that's a lie I mean look what happened to them after the Soviet devise they brought in the KGB to run Russia I mean they'd like after a brief period with with Yeltsin the Drunken charge they brought in the KGB to take things over so you're not talking about a country that has any liberal democratic background whatsoever so what do you do with Russia will you do with Russia's you try to keep it away from you just like in the fedora and the roof may God keep bless and keep the Tsar far away from us I mean it's the same kind of concept with Russia so what he's doing for instance with the gas pipeline to Germany is very smart you know decrease their ability to subvert American interests inside of Europe these are important things America has core interests in Europe diminished you're Russia's opportunities there to harm me if you overthrow the regime in Iran and another regime comes in and they want to make good ties they want developed good ties with Russia fine let them you know the Americans should be there first because then that keeps the Russians out of out of Iran you know you the Americans have an interest in having a strategic alliance with the Iranians just like Israel has there's an interest in having a strategic alliance with the Iranians the Russians aren't wrong - one aside with the Shiites against the Sunnis it's just that American Israel can't side with Iran today because the regime is it their enemy so if you overthrow the regime the fact that Russia wants their have close ties with Iran is much less of a problem so the point is there are things that you can do to diminish Russia's ability to threaten you they don't necessarily involve confronting Putin they involve the diminishing his opportunity to subvert your interests and your allies and I would say that you know I like I said I have criticism what he's doing in Turkey I think it's a mistake and I think that he should have a much colder relationship with era - and I think Israel for instance has to be much more aggressive and in blocking the Turks inroads into the Israeli Arab community that they've been funding and building mosques and schools and particularly in Jerusalem they've been doing this but also in the Galilee and I think that Israel has to throw them out I mean I think that there are things that have to be done that can be done about Turkey's operations at Washington these are things that the Americans can do - to weaken an enemy it's a one last player that's out there that we haven't spoken about the Europeans where you see them in this whole thing because there's NATO and they really don't they can't defend themselves the Europeans so were they sitting in this whole thing with Iran well the Europeans have been Pro Iran I mean they've been keeping the regime afloat and they've been keeping the nuclear deal afloat basically in collusion with with Obama with the Democrats they have been doing this you know Kerry's been operating really very treacherously an independent foreign policy towards the Europeans with mogherini who's now leaving and apparently the person who's replacing her is just as bad if not worse in terms of anti-americanism and anti-semitism but I mean this has been the way that they've been operating but Merkel is about to leave Germany and that's a good thing and France is falling apart so you have England not where we were worried it would be a month ago which is amazing and so the point is here to like you know Europe has always been a problem for the United States and obviously for the Jews and I mean America is an Azeri is a rejection of Europe America was founded by people who rejected Europe and it should just cling to that because the closer the United States becomes to Europe the worse it is for America and I think the British finally got that does you know got that through their heads which is why they voted the majority of the British people voted for leaving the European Union and then they brought in Boris Johnson to execute the withdrawal from the European Union so that's a huge deal for America and for Israel and by the way I don't even think that Boris Johnson is that fantastic because he's you know when he was foreign minister under Theresa May he operated a standard-issue British foreign policy towards Israel which was which was hostile so I'm not you know I bet he's better than Corbin he's better than Corbin and is better than Patrice May who is basically like the the British version of a deep state er and so you know so he's in there now it's a huge opportunity for the United States to weak in Europe which is also important you know the the the Americans regarding NATO and regarding the European Union had this default position and the post Cold War period that was sort of nobody really thought about it like the default position of NATO of the United States and NATO is to expand it eastward why well I don't know well you know let's bring in Ukraine what you know what are you talking about you think that the Russians will ever let go of the Ukraine like are you are you serious are you stupid I mean why why do you want to do that what its strategic interests does it does it advance to bring in countries to an alliance that you will never go to war to protect they're not important enough to you from a strategic perspective obviously from a human perspective boy oh boy that sucks but you're not gonna do anything about it so why are you committing yourself to a war to protect countries that you will not protect because you're not thinking it about it you're saying oh we won the Cold War yeah let's so gobble up the Warsaw Pact countries and bring them into NATO for no end so that's what the Americans did and some of it is sign you know you bring in them poles that's great but you know if the Russians invade Poland what does the ISIS gonna do the idea is to strengthen Poland so that the Russians won't want to invade it which is a better thing and that's more economic I think even but having said that so that's NATO and there was also an even stupider American idea which was oh the European Union is great no it's not the European Union was an anti-american project from the very beginning and so the idea that you want to empower the European Union is totally antithetical to American strategic interests because the European Union thinks that they can freeload off of the United States militarily and then oppose the United States as a bloc diplomatically so what did the United States gain from having a European super-state that's able to direct the foreign policies of the poles and of of the Dutch and of I mean why would you want that you know you want to be able to work with like-minded countries are hungry why would you end because really if you're like if you read your own kozo news book on nationalism which is a really key contribution to the whole conceptualization and understand philosophically of the European Union I mean it's basically a way to rebuild the German Empire but do it through economic as opposed to military means because what is the central component of the European Union what is the country that has been most empowered by the European Union well it's them Germans and as it works out when we see the Germans refusing to allow Hezbollah defending for dear life the nuclear deal with Iran voting against Israel what on 30 resolutions in the past month in the Europe in the United Nations and having just run away anti-semitism and paying tens of millions of dollars every year to fund these anti Israel pressure groups both inside of Europe and throughout inside of Israel and throughout your you see that they still hate us that Germany is still Israel's enemy no matter how nicely they talk to us when they're speaking to us face to face and so why on earth would anybody support this I mean I remember one time I was talking to Silvan Shalom when he was foreign minister because I had just attacked him bitterly in a column because he said he wanted Israel to join the European Union and I said to him he and then you know he said oh would you why don't you come and meet with it's okay obviously he was foreign minister at the time and he said I don't understand why were you criticizing me and I said what is it that Europe didn't explain to you they watered their grass with our blood what is it that still hasn't congealed for you coagulated what what don't you understand what do they need to spell out their policies the only foreign policy that they have is to oppose us at every level all of the time in a passive-aggressive economic and diplomatic war against the Jewish state what is it that they have to clarify for you they don't like us they know they don't like Jews they've never liked Jews not when it was because we killed Christ not when you know it was because we're capitalists not because we were communists they never liked us and now we're nationalists Jewish state when they're trying to erase all kinds of different identities your arm talks about that in his book as well it's an important book very important books point as I said what is it that you don't understand you know it's the same question that you have to pose to the Israeli left right because basically what they're saying is we're post nationalists we we don't like this whole national project for Israel and therefore we agree with the Europeans that there shouldn't be a Jewish state well see ok that's problem right I mean we can talk about it a little bit but not too much because this isn't an issue that we're gonna actually give any ground on so if you don't like Israel leave because there's nothing we can do about it this is the Jewish it's a nation state we're nationalists and and we want to preserve our nation that's why we make became here we didn't come here to be a post nationalist state we're surrounded by a billion Muslims there's no non-muslim country between Israel and India so when you're and if anti-semitism gets worse around the world which is some of you won't even have time to discuss we'll have to do it another time we might have some people who need a little haven which is I hope not but that's some you know that's where it's looking look you and I both made alia and we didn't need a haven we came here because we're Jewish nationalists because we believe in being part of the most extraordinary thing that the Jewish people have done since the destruction of the Second Temple and we're very lucky and our children are blessed because we were we we had the gumption to do it but and everybody should do it but you know the point is we like we like the Jewish state and you know people who don't want it you know we're not interested in having them subvert everything that people have built here thank God and that's that you know so but the point is just to end you know what happened yesterday was that I woke up the morning and I and I got the news you know from my trusty phone that said that sulemani had just been killed by the Americans and I can't remember being so happy about a single event you know aside from getting married and having your kids ever because this was an extraordinary an extraordinary development it was pure good on every level there's no drawback to it everybody says America is you know Iran is gonna go to word the United States I ran his bin at war as my friend Michael Adina in Washington has pointed I think in every conversation I've had with him over the past 20 years Iran has been at war with the United States since 1979 so it's not a matter of Iran will go to war they have been hitting America and of course Israel with everything they can sit for 42 years 41 years now this is a 41st year and and and and the concept that there is an action that the United States can undertake that's going to change the nature of this regime is insane what it can do is there an inaction and America God think got it god Bless America and President Donald Trump they took it yesterday and it is changing Iran and Iran is changing and they're giving a back when to the people who are changing it for the better because what comes after this regime is a question but we know what we have with the regime and it's a very bad devil that we know and I'm sure that any devil that we don't know that may come up and hopefully we won't get that we'll get a great regime but we don't know we'll deal with that later right now we're dealing with a regime that is satanic that is on the verge of acquiring nuclear weapons that has its talons that reach across the globe and attack American interests Israeli interests American people Jewish people throughout the world so and it was run by Qasem Soleimani and now he is dead so the world is definitely a better place today than it was yesterday and what comes out so clearly is what an a-line wouldn't ask that Israel is to the United States if there's one country in the world as little in gutsy as it is it's the one that you and I live in that's right and Israel has no better friend than President Donald Trump Carolyn Glick thank you so much for your insight into a very interesting situation that I'm sure will only be developing in many different directions over the next few weeks take care everybody Yves herro rejuvenation on the Land of Israel Network thanks to Tabitha thanks to Ben have a great week everybody goodbye for now [Music] this week on inside Israel today with Gil Hoffman an exclusive interview with former Israeli ambassador to the u.s. 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