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Rejuvenation: The Elimination of Soleimani
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Political commentator, journalist and author Caroline Glick joins Eve Harow to explain - with her trademark directness - the huge importance and ramifications of the US killing of arch terrorist Qassem Soleimani. A tremendous destabilizing force who was responsible for the murder of thousands in and out of the Middle East, this act has created an opportunity for regime change in Iran. Caroline shares her opinion on the players in the region and how American strength is critical to ensure security for good people around the globe. Iraq, Russia, Syria, Turkey, Europe, Egypt- get ready for an hour-long primer on the maelstrom surrounding little, stable Israel.
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hi everybody this is Eve Harrow on
rejuvenation 4 at the Land of Israel
Network it is Saturday night January 4th
2028 day of T vet 5780 I'm sitting here
with Carolyn Glick a few days ago I was
in touch with her because I've been
wanting to interview her for a long time
and I said like you know we set it up
Saturday night and she said great and
then she said what are we going to talk
about and I said I don't know something
will come up
so yesterday something came up big time
so first of all Carolyn Shevat ov and
happy 2020 Shavua Tov Shavua Tov it's
great to finally be able to sit down and
talk with you about what you know just
such a few things that are going on you
know it's so boring in our part of the
world yes
great to be here could always talked
about the winter weather that finally
hit or the anti-semitism that's all over
America I think is that which we might
talk about anyway but Qasem Soleimani if
I pronounced that right what are you
thinking I'm thinking that this is just
almost a seismic event I mean what
people don't understand just how
important
sulemani is to the entire Iranian
empire-building scheme to the Iranian
Empire to Iran's terror net Nexus
throughout the world this man is the
architect of so much mayhem and death
and chaos and suffering in the Middle
East and throughout the world and you
know now I saw that Democrats in the
United States for Seoul I think that
they're out of their mind and we have to
talk about that separately but I mean
they're attacking Trump for ordering his
his his killing and referring to him as
a foreign leader and so I think it's
really important for us to talk a little
bit about you know who he is and what he
did and what the significance of his
being killed by the US military really
is so for those who don't know I didn't
even introduce you because it's just
like I just assume everybody knows you
are Carolyn Glick journalist author
political commentator
yada-yada not and for those who don't
know you're also embedded with the US
troops in
you out 2003 2003 back in the day yeah
when we were all innocent and I mean not
really innocent because we in Israel
I've been going through this for so many
years but the Americans were were
innocent they didn't really understand
what was happening in the Middle East
and they came in sort of willy-nilly and
overthrew Saddam Hussein thinking that
if they got rid of him that that was
going to be great and it would all you
know change the world but it did in a
way that they hadn't foreseen because
they didn't understand the hornet's nest
that they were getting into it said I
was saying was a was a Sunni and Iraq
much like Lebanon is a multi-ethnic
state it has Sunnis and it has Shiites
it used to have Christians a fairly
large Christian minority now they're all
gone as a result of the overthrow of
Saddam and they have Yazidis who are
also basically gone now because of Isis
that came later but the point is that as
an end the Kurds they used to have Jews
too but the Jews got out and did not
willingly also centuries decades ago
right but they're almost no Jews there
when when the Americans invaded but yes
there was a very large Jewish community
in Basra and Baghdad the Jews were a
third of the population of Basra in 1948
a very large I think was the largest
minority and in Baghdad as well so there
ya know man it was a it was a Jewish
community that had been in Iraq since
the destruction of the first temple but
that hasn't made the point is that like
the Assad's in Syria the the Bast's it's
this fascist party and they were in
charge of Iraq with Saddam Hussein and
also with the Assad dynasty in Syria and
they were minorities the Sunnis are the
minority in in in Iraq and the Alaa
whites are minorities in in Syria and
because there were minorities they sort
of glued together the society by
pressing everybody equally and they
allowed other minorities to work with
them because they trusted them so who
are the majority and in Iraq are the are
the Shiites now Iranians are also
Shiites they're not Arabs but they're
Shiites and so when the Americans
overthrew Saddam and
said that they wanted to turn Iraq into
a democracy what they were saying was
that they wanted to have open elections
popular elections and that and they
didn't really know what that meant and
what that meant was that they were
empowering the Shiite majority to take
over Iraq which from an American
perspective sounds reasonable but when
you're dealing with multi-ethnic
societies with no past tradition of
democracy what you're really doing is
allowing Iran which is also Shiite to
come in and subvert everything that
you're trying to accomplish so over the
intervening many years since the
American invasion in 2003 the Iranians
use the demócrata the democracy that the
Americans were ushering in in order to
subvert Iraq and in order to continue to
destabilize it in the name of Shiite
empowerment and they brought they formed
all these militias they by the way they
also enabled engendered and and directed
Al Qaeda in Iraq I mean the the heads of
al Qaeda in Iraq were actually imported
into Iraq from Iran they all were
headquarters in Iran and then they came
into Iraq so throughout this period when
the Americans were fighting the
insurgency the insurgency was actually
being directed by Iran all of this is
just a long way of saying something very
very plain which is that although Iraq
richly deserved to be invaded from the
perspective of their destabilizing role
their hatred of the United States their
support for terrorism under Saddam
Hussein they weren't the real engine of
the problem in fact even the 9/11
terrorists a lot of them flew through
Iran and they were trained by Hezbollah
and this is all in the 9/11 report that
came out after the after the attacks in
2001 that the Americans didn't
understand they said up 15 Saudis with a
Saudi operation but no it was actually
very much the brainchild of the Iranian
Revolutionary Guard Corps which brings
us to suleimani
when you think about who it was was most
destabilizing force in the Middle East
in the last 20 years it was sulemani it
wasn't saddam hussein it wasn't even the
taliban in afghanistan as strange as
that may seem it was the head of the
Revolutionary Guard forces codes force
does the coots force said he that he
commanded it is all of Iran's external
operations outside of Iran by the way
they are also involved in repressing all
of the anti regime protests inside of
Iran so they the Reuters report came out
last week or a week and a half ago that
that the regime killed a thousand five
hundred protesters in a week the people
who did that were all directed by
sulemani so basically all of the death
inside of Iran was also directed by
suleimani a lot of the repression is
directed by him he's the most powerful
man in Iran aside from Khomeini who is
the supreme leader meaning the dictator
of Iran and his number two guy sulemani
but sulemani from our perspective as
israelis as anybody who lives outside of
iran was the most important Iranian
because he was the one who is in charge
of Hezbollah not only physical in
Lebanon because Bala all over the world
all of their operatives in Europe that
commit terrorist attacks in places like
Burgas Bulgaria where they killed
Israeli tourists a few years ago all of
their operations in Germany all of their
operations in France all of their
operations in England they're all
directed by Qasem Soleimani in Latin
America all of the Hezbollah presence in
in Latin America and there's an enormous
amount in Brazil in brenda's whele most
importantly in Nicaragua in Bolivia all
of that is directed by Qasem Soleimani
the operation that was in 2009
I think 2004 they were planning on
assassinating the Saudi ambassador in
Washington it was the el coots force had
made a deal with one of the rush the
Mexican drug cartels to carry out an
explosive attack on Cafe Milano in
Georgetown because that's where the to
kill the Saudi Arabia what ambassador
while he was dining there and that was
also the Qasem Soleimani
so all of the international terrorism of
Iran was directed by Qasem Soleimani
and then the other thing from a regional
perspective that he directed was the war
in Syria Iran when the Syrians
rising up against Bashar al-assad in
2011 because of the economic devastation
the ecological devastation of Syria that
caused the destruction of agriculture in
Syria mass urbanization and Colonel or
refugee crisis water shortages inside of
Syria they certain rising up as part of
the Arab Spring the person who was most
responsible for the war that followed
those protests was Qasem Soleimani
because he he was the one that was
directing all of the operations the mass
death of chemical weapons attacks all of
the attacks against the Syrians who were
rising up against the Assad regime in
order to maintain acid cause Assad is
his puppet and so the whole Ward that
displaced 10 million people outside of
Syria caused massive dislocation inside
of Europe was responsible for all of the
Terrorism inside of Europe that we saw
in 2015 2016 and so on and so forth
that's all his handiwork there's all a
result of what he did in in Syria not
only in Syria in Iraq you see five
hundred protesters have been killed by
by the Shiite proxy militias by the
Shiite militias inside of Iraq since
they started anti-iranian protests in
Iraq and note in October all of those
protesters were killed at the behest of
his passing through the money so just in
the last two months he's killed 500
Iraqis who have been rising up against
against Iran and him and so this is the
whole Iranian operation in Yemen it's
directed where they use the Houthis
which is sort of a Shiite tribe inside
of Yemen that have been taking over the
country and securing the Bible mondop
which is a major strategic waterway that
together with the Straits of Hormuz give
Iran basic control over all of the oil
products transiting the from Saudi
Arabia to world oil markets that's all
Qasem Soleimani so the entire Iranian
Empire building project that extends to
Yemen through Iraq through Syria through
Lebanon that's all
sulemani and this man is no dead I mean
he had no replacement and I don't know
you know what's gonna happen but this
his killing but and the fact that the
Americans did it and did it publicly and
took responsibility for it is like the
kind of humiliation of the Iranian
regime in the middle of a domestic
insurrection of a huge protest movement
that they quelled by you know just
spilling rivers of blood of Iranians
just last month or in late in late
November now we're in early January I
mean this is this is unbelievable the
implications of strategic implications a
human implication the humanitarian
implications of this monster now being
dead are just almost impossible to get
your arms around so there's a few things
one of them is if this guy has been
really the head of such an evil snake
for a long time you have to ask what
took so long to some degree right we had
eight years of Obama so it's not like
they thought this guy was Mother Teresa
at any point so that's one question and
the other point that you made which i
think is incredibly important for
Western audiences is the humiliation all
right because we here who live in the
Middle East and as a matter fact dr.
Harold Road who's an expert on this the
shame the honor the idea of humiliation
and that at least happens to be in my
house right now also at another meeting
it's not is is a huge part of why
they're gonna have to respond because
and it's also a reason why Israel is
never going to be able to have peace
treaties are the neighbors because we've
won wars against them and humiliated
them that's not undone by signing a
piece of paper and I don't think that
Westerners understand that enough that
idea of if you're humiliated you have to
lash back so so the first question you
ask is why did it take so long and so
first of all the Bush administration
apparently I saw it was reported
yesterday that they had an opportunity
to kill him in 2004 and they decided not
to and the British administration is
really sort of an interesting thing
because they made the president made
after the invasion of Iraq a strategic
decision which was a huge mistake
to limit all of the US operations to
Iraq and it was insane it was such a
stupid thing to do and it really caused
the war in Iraq to be something that was
both unwinnable and also not worth the
price because it was entirely directed
from Iran it was an Iranian war against
the United States that was being fought
against US forces in Iraq all of the all
of the militias that were fighting the
United States were being armed and
trained and directed from Iran by the
Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps
byesville by sulemani
and you know others but he was the
epicenter of the of the insurgency in
Iraq and the same is true with the
Sunnis and Karl Rove made this statement
like right after the invasion said we're
done invading countries and because
Rumsfeld there were all these reports at
the WMD that the United States
presumably went into you know
purportedly weapons of mass destruction
weapons of mass destructions went into
Iraq because of that they were all going
to Syria which was true by the way and
and also being buried I mean why is it
that Isis was able to use chemical
weapons after they took over Mosul in
2014 because the reports were true they
were being buried and hidden in Iraq and
also in Syria a lot of those weapons
were used against civilians inside of
Syria by the regime by the Iranian
forces that were assisting Assad they
knew where all of it was because they
were directing the evacuation of the
weapons of mass destruction from Iran
from Iraq in 2003 so Karl Rove said
we're done and this was after Rumsfeld
had said who was a defense secretary at
the time that the United States was
going to go in hot pursuit into Syria
and then Colin Powell who was Secretary
of State responded to that by flying to
Damascus and representing Assad as a man
of peace so it was like this this
reaction in this counter reaction they
said no more Wars but the minute that
you have a war being fought against you
know it's like Vietnam where the Soviets
were using Cambodia as a and of course
North Vietnam as a means to transit
fighters and everything to the south
and then of course to invade South
Vietnam and when the Nixon
administration made a decision that they
weren't going to go into Cambodia that
they weren't going to go into Laos that
they weren't going to go into North
Vietnam they basically gave control over
the entire over the entire map to the
Russians and that was when the Americans
lost and so when the Bush administration
repeated that mistake in 2003 and they
said they weren't going to go after the
Iranian so they weren't going to go
after the Syrians which were the engines
of the war being fought against the US
forces they were saying we're gonna lose
this war so it was at that moment that
they should have just picked up the 3rd
Infantry Division the 4th Infantry
Division and the Marine Corps and taken
them home because if you don't want to
fight the war that's being fought
against you then you're gonna lose the
war that's being fought against you and
that's really what ended up happening
and that was Bush and with Obama what
happened was that he changed his
strategy completely he said all right
we're gonna realign the United States in
the Middle East away from our
traditional allies the Sunnis and the
Israelis and we're going to realign
America towards Iran that was what the
whole nuclear deal was about it wasn't
about nuclear non-proliferation because
they were giving Iran the bomb and they
said within 10 years they're gonna have
an arsenal and that's fine with us they
were they enabled the Iranians to build
a nuclear arsenal that was what the
jcpoa did that was why so many people
were so viciously opposed to it because
anybody truly understands what Iran is
understands that the minute that these
people get a bum there's gonna be a
nuclear war and if you're anti-nuclear
then you have to do everything in your
power to prevent them from getting a
nuclear bomb but that wasn't what Obama
was about he was about being
anti-american and an anti-israel and
anti Sunni he was for the Muslim
Brotherhood which is why he supported
the overthrow of America's closest Arab
ally Hosni Mubarak in in Egypt even
though he knew that there was only one
force that could take over Egypt which
was a Muslim Brotherhood which they did
in 2013 and and so he and he was for
Iran which is why he made the deal with
them that gave them a hundred and fifty
billion dollars in sanctions relief he
gave them four hundred fifty mm
and dollars and cash and he didn't touch
till the money no it's not just that he
didn't touch through the money
did you see jcpoa stipulates that seven
years after the conclusion of the
agreement which depending on how you
look at it can either be 2021 or 2022
because if it was the initial it was
initialized in 2014 and then the
extended agreement was concluded in July
of 2015 but that all sanctions against
soleimani were going to be cancelled so
that the agreement was actually whistle
of money and it was for his benefit
personally so it empowered soleimani
both monetarily and politically because
it legitimized everything he was doing
in Syria the Obama had a reaction to the
to the taking of Soleimani you know
Shabbat just ended here in Israel so I
haven't been paying attention but you
know all of his surrogates have been all
over Twitter since it came on I mean you
know and Friday morning in his real-time
saying how horrible it has been Rhodes
Samantha power all of them and they're
there it's pathological I mean how could
they possibly be moan the assassination
of the most prolific killer that was
alive until yesterday on on earth and
yet they they are and that just shows
how deeply rotten evil horrific
anti-american yeah anti-american
anti-semitic pro-iranian and pro not
even pro-iranian because of course you
have millions of Iranians who are
praying for the overthrow of the regime
pro-iranian totalitarianism or Islamic
totalitarianism whether it's of the
Muslim Brotherhood variety or of the
Iranian variety the Obama administration
truly was how totally destructive they
were to American society and to
America's strategic interests and of
course to America's own allies which is
why you know it's it you know that was
the other remarkable thing so you know
about the the question of humiliation
that you asked about I think it's really
important to look at this from their
perspective because you know we always
feel bad like you know if somebody
attacks you and then you hit
really hard in front of all the pretty
girls in class and in the end you kind
of feel embarrassed I shouldn't have
done that I heard what you bad you know
now he's gonna hate me for whatever but
that's not how our enemies see it
because we'd like to be gallant and
victory or with what did Lincoln say in
the second inaugural with I'm gonna ruin
his thing but it was the basic idea was
that you're you're not gonna hate
anybody unnecessarily that you're with
charity for all is how he ended that
beautiful clause which I don't want to
mangle so the idea was that you want to
be gallant and victory you don't want to
be cruel be gracious as the winner
exactly be gracious as a winner and then
and so we look at everything we don't
want them to be humiliated because then
they'll be mad at us but no that's not
true the thing that keeps the peace
between Israel and its allies is that
they were humiliated not that they were
treated well because it's the
humiliation that deters them it's what
makes them not fight so that if you're a
genocide all Iranian theocrats in the
that the coming of the Messiah is gonna
happen any day and that that's gonna
assure in an Armageddon where you're
gonna annihilate the Jewish state
annihilate the United States of America
and and introduce a global theocracy
under the banner of the Iranian
theocracy then if you're humiliated it's
like they're killing your God and you
can't get back a god that's dead but
that doesn't make them want to fight
harder to on to bring honor and take
shame away from what just happened yes
and no because they're their entire
theology was exposed as as as a lie and
so what you also have is a lot of
revisitation of belief systems by its
adherents so that that's that's not true
I mean if you think about it from the
perspective of a believer so some of
them are going to believe till the
bitter end you know like some of the
people who were in the Soviet gulag were
drawing pictures of Stalin on the walls
of their cells you know because they
still believed at him
still believed that he was the big
brother and he he was gonna save them
even though he was the reason they were
in Siberia and starving to death but
they still believed so that yeah you'll
have people like that but you also have
a lot of people who wake up from the
delusion and walk away and in fact most
people are gonna do that because most
people aren't the true believers most
people are the people who go with the
winners and so when you humiliate them
like this when you kill Soleimani and
you brag about it just like when you
know Donald Trump killed Baghdady and
talked on and on and on about the
beautiful dog who killed him he
humiliated Baghdady and humiliated his
followers they were embarrassed they
were ashamed because he humiliated them
and then he brought the dog to the White
House I mean that was one of the most
powerful psychological operations
Americans have done since 9/11 because
he finally gets it that you have to
humiliate them and so by killing
sulemani what you're saying among other
things not just a theological issue it's
also the winner loser issue you know
Obama didn't want to win you know he was
so embarrassed that they killed Osama
bin Laden and you know and he kept going
on about how he had like a full Islamic
funeral ceremony like anybody cares you
know why would he get one like that's
stupid why didn't you wrap his body in
pigskin and throw him in a dumpster you
know that's what he deserved
right but no and and that would have
been a really smart thing to do
psychologically in fact show him in a
pigskin being thrown into a dumpster
that would have been really great but
you know whatever Obama didn't do that
and Trump is the kind of person who
would do that and it's not just from a
theological perspective that it's
important to so from a psychological
perspective because whose side you want
to be on whose side you wanna be on you
want to be on the side of the winners
not on the side of the losers and the
lame losers were killed by a dog a
beautiful dog when your whole religious
system is based on the idea that a dog
is unclean and discussing it's amazing
do you feel like a loser
who wants to continue fighting for a
bunch of losers who wants to be
identified with losers the answer is not
them they want to be with this site
that's winning so the likelihood of
desertion just increased tremendously
long the Shia forces among the people
who are in the Revolutionary Guard Corps
and not just that the the prospect now
of the United States and other foreign
intelligence agencies being able to
recruit spies within the the the the
Revolutionary Guard Corps that was
commanded by suleimani increased
dramatically now because they want to be
with the winners if they think that
their site is about to lose and plus you
have hundreds of thousands of Iranians
who have were on the street just a
couple weeks ago calling for the
overthrow of the regime until they were
violently put down by Khamenei II you
know you're you're talking about a
recipe for the new complete these civil
destabilization of the Iranian regime
which is fantastic again you know one of
the things that we've forgotten in our
you know morally relative age that we're
living in a postmodern age is that we
forget that there is a distinction
between good and evil and we forget that
there's a reason why you have to win
wars and that it's in the service of
morality it's in service of goodness
because we are the good guys you know
you don't go around killing people who
protest against you you know you don't
Massacre children in front of their
parents to scare their parents into
submission or children massacred their
mothers in front of them to scare them
into submission you don't do things like
that but in Iran they do because they're
evil and we want to do everything that
we can to destabilize and overthrow this
regime because they're our enemy they're
the enemy of the Iranian people they're
the enemy of the Jewish people
they're the enemy of the American people
they're the enemy of everybody they're
Saudis of everybody who wants to live
their way and not the Iranian theocrats
way and they're brutal
they're seeking and you know about to
complete a nuclear weapons Pro
they have cruise missiles that they used
guided missiles that they used to
destroy half of Saudis oil
infrastructure in September they have
agents all over the world who have been
trained to kill on a massive scale and
they've used those skills in the past we
saw in the army about bombing in in 93
you know the largest massacre of Jews
since the Holocaust you know in
Argentina in Argentina and Buenos Aires
the Jewish Community Center you know you
you you've seen their handiwork all 241
Marines who were killed by these people
in 1983 in Beirut and so on and so forth
so as Israelis who are little wary of
Hezbollah that are sitting with lots of
missiles in southern Lebanon another
Iranian proxy you think that that might
have an effect on Orcas bodasse thinking
as well I think Chris Bala is terrified
and I think you know I was saying before
before Shabbat yesterday I posted on my
Facebook page picture of nasrallah I was
crying you know booth fussing this rally
the Secretary General of Hezbollah he's
to the manis you know Lebanese sycophant
raised its proxies is sycophant he he he
took all of his orders from sulemani his
because who MIT was essentially the
commander of Kabbalah
and ice and I wrote on top of it then
you know they had my next you know it's
because the Iranians announced three
days of mourning first of the money
fantastic let's take advantage of them
let's kill nasrallah why is he still
alive i mean you know the thing is is
that you you get a bakwin to fight these
people when these things happen they're
scared the psychological impact of
losing your commander is enormous it's
enormous
do you think it's good that America is
taking this on itself and all the credit
because it would seem to me just from
the little that I know that he's maybe
Israeli telogen maybe even other
intelligence let's say from England must
have had some help here and
Middle East you know helping the United
States to a lot of intelligence went
into that but America is right now
taking all the credit all the blame
although whatever you want on its own
and Israel is staying very quiet what do
you think about that I think it's
fantastic it's about time that somebody
take credit for things you know Israel
destroyed the Syrian nuclear reactor in
Traktor in in 2007 and Condoleezza Rice
who was was a strategic thinker you know
with the brain of a mushroom I mean she
was so wrong about everything that she
said and did she just was horrible and
she gave terrible advice to George Bush
was a terrible Secretary of State a
terrible national security adviser and
she ordered Israel after the strike
first of all she opposed it she wanted
to talk about it at the new United
Nations Security Council which would
have enabled the Syrians you know to
develop a bomb in six months of
negotiations just like we saw with North
Korea and just like we're seeing with
with Iran under the under the Iranian
nuclear the under the nuclear deal that
they concluded with Obama so that would
have been a disaster and everyone yelled
at Menachem Begin also see Iraq in 1981
right
so exactly and then they came back and
they and they licked his boots for
having saved them and enabled
essentially everything that came
afterwards for better or for worse but
so Condoleezza Rice ordered then really
prime ministerial DOMA to keep to keep
mum about it not to saying it didn't
want to embarrass Bashar al Assad you
know that's that sort of that's lunatic
because you want to be able to say we're
better than you are we're stronger than
you are
we're not afraid of you we're
willingness to stare you down we're
gonna take you down because you want to
empower the people inside of those
countries who oppose their regime to
oppose it to not be scared because I
mean that was what happened and in the
Green Revolution when millions of
Iranians came out into the streets in
2009 after the regime stole the
elections from the winners and they gave
it back to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad even
though he won like twenty percent of the
vote
so the people came out they said our
votes matter and there we have millions
of people in the streets and then you
know and then the regime started killing
them all and they were screaming into
their into their cell phones and posting
online Obama whose side are you on
because Obama was on the side of Ali
Khamenei and the people who were killing
them that was what he he wanted he
didn't want that regime to be overthrown
he wanted to make peace with that regime
he wanted that regime to replace Israel
as the United States as chief ally in
the Middle East because he thinks that
you know they're better than America
it's just like you ran around
apologizing to everybody for America
being good for eight years that was who
he was and here you're seeing Secretary
of State Pompeo you're seeing President
Trump you're seeing you know other very
important Americans Brian Hook secretary
Esper saying we stand with the Iranian
people we believe in the future of Iran
we believe in you but we understand that
this regime is evil so when you take
responsibility for for doing something
that harms a regime that is oppressing
its own people and the future of Iran
depends on them standing up and being
counted against these overlords who are
killing them and their children
I mean that's a very important thing
Israel you know we're not in a position
to that and the Americans did learn
after Iraq that they don't understand
anything about the Middle East you know
they don't I mean they had no idea what
they were doing when they went into Iraq
I say this as somebody who loved the
soldiers who who I went into Iraq with I
mean I was in continuous combat with
these guys there were wonderful people
the best Americans I ever met in my life
and I mean it and and a lot of them died
because of misguided policy a lot of
them died a lot of them died and a lot
of them came back you know with
traumatized by what they had gone
through and they are the best of the
best and there are the people who least
deserve this they were deserved by a
government that never bothered to figure
out what it was doing before it did it
you don't just send people will
nilly into a foreign land that you don't
understand and tell them to take it over
you they didn't know what they were
doing but that's a completely different
issue the point is just that the people
who do understand what's happening are
the people who live there and we know
that this regime is evil for what it
does outside of Iran they know what it's
doing is evil from the way that they
experience it every day inside of Iran I
don't know if they you know if God
willing this regime is overthrown I
don't know who the people are gonna take
over are and I don't know whether
they're gonna be any better but they'll
be weaker and so we have an interest and
then coming in and doing the best they
can and then you can help them you don't
want to choose sighs too much because
you don't understand enough about them
but you know get rid of one problem you
can deal with the next one when it comes
up in the meantime this regime has been
at war with the United States for 41
years
you know since they took over the
embassy in in November of 1979 and took
these Americans who were there as
diplomats you know that was the other
thing in a way which I thought it was
very important in that the American
media in its corrupted state has been
hiding
sulemani directed the invasion of the US
embassy compound in Iraq last week that
was his brainchild he has been directing
the entire operation of the area of the
Iraqi government and of the Shiite
militias inside of Iraq since the
beginning of the protests in October and
this was his decision to have the
militia go in and try to take down the
embassy last week this was an operation
that for people who have looked at the
footage or remember the takeover of the
US Embassy in Tehran in 1979 it looks
very familiar because it's the same
operation and the and the corrupted New
York Times and CNN that refer to them as
mourners and as protesters are are an
obscenity there are an embarrassment to
the public to the profession of
journalism that they could dare to do
that these people were even in uniform
they were even you know they weren't
trying to hide what they were doing was
the New York Times I was trying to hide
who they were which is just such a
miscarriage of everything that they're
supposed to stand for but again that's
another issue the point is that they
conducted a military operation against
the United States whose goal was the
overthrow the destruction of perhaps a
taking captive of US diplomatic
personnel inside of the US Embassy which
was an act of war against the United
States you know as as much as the over
the takeover of the US Embassy in Tehran
in 1979 was as the killing of the
ambassador in Libya although that went
on you know most people don't even
remember that anymore
in Benghazi and also you know and yes so
you've had repeated attacks on US
embassies and in Nairobi and in in in
Tanzania in 1998 you've had repeated
attacks on US diplomatic compound since
1979 and this is the first time that the
United States cop and to competently
responded to that sort of attack on
their sovereignty and so this was a very
important just if I mean and that's the
thing is that this operation was so
important on so many different levels it
accomplished so many goals at the same
time it was it was truly beautiful it
was justice well served against an evil
evil man who's extraordinarily dangerous
to all humanity and the fact that
anybody is criticizing it is crazy the
fact that the Democratic Party is
criticizing it adds the party I mean I'm
so Nancy Pelosi attacked it you have you
have all of these you know and it just
shows that the anti-semites the anti
Americans have taken over the Democratic
Party they have Corbyn eyes the
Democratic Party and has become an
anti-american party it has become an
anti-semitic party and and it's
terrifying that this has happened but
their responses to the killing of one of
the most dangerous men on the face of
the planet
one of the greatest and grievous enemies
to the United States to the Saudi
Arabian government who to Israel to all
good people
in the region and in the world and of
course the Iranian people first and
foremost if they could mourn his death
or boom on the killing of this man is
really a testament to how low they have
fallen and how dangerous they have
become and so I think you know that's
another sort of kind of bright light
that has been shiny of you a wake-up
call to the Americans I don't know I
mean the people who are in that boat are
there you know and I don't know I don't
know what the people hate Trump hate
Trump
there's just no there's no talking about
of it you know there are also these sort
of psychotic never Trump Republicans you
know that you see but I maybe even
wanted two of them will wake up I doubt
it because they're now you know they're
very happy and MSNBC and CNN I don't
know I don't know I mean I saw when he
said that Jake Tapper from CNN used to
beats you know semi-reasonable he's
completely out of his mind he he
interviewed treati Parsi who is an
Iranian regime lobbyist in Washington
defending Soleimani
and he never attacked him for it
apparently it was quite at quite an easy
friendly interview with this man who has
been defending these mass murderers who
are nuclear proliferate or who run the
largest terror operation mankind has
ever seen and that is actively building
an empire swallowing up Iraq Yemen Syria
and Lebanon the cost of millions of
lives where do you see Russia in all
this look Russia has been on ally of
Iran
you know Russia's an ally of Iran and
you know are they gonna feel like they
have to now step up and do something I
don't think that they're gonna do
anything for a run I think on the other
hand that again you know that's the
whole concept of winning the
psychological impact of harming an enemy
he said he's weakened and that's good
because then he's less attractive to
possible allies because you don't want
to go with the guy who's gonna lose
people choose why is it that Israel is
doing so well diplomatically
why is it that over the past decade
Israel has developed such good and sort
of unprecedented relations with all of
these countries that never never thought
about having serious relations with us
it is because our economy is is doing
great it's because we've developed all
of these technologies that people want
it's because we're winning it's because
you know from a security perspective we
seem to be getting our house in order
you know obviously from our perspective
it's it's a mixed bag but from the
outside looking in it looks like we've
got our stuff together and you know
we're selling natural gas now to Cyprus
and to Greece and connecting ourselves
with Europe via the Mediterranean and to
Egypt and to Jordan I mean we're
becoming energy independent Israel
Israel is becoming energy independent
that like we used to just mean what were
our exports when I was growing up in
America we used to sell towels you know
what I mean oranges
yeah and oranges I mean it we would use
room was nothing it was nothing
and now everything is coming here
everybody's coming here you know we're
building cars you know because we're
building the computer to run the cards
you know I mean it's all all of the
technologies here you you go to Tel Aviv
and you see the research headquarters
afford you know I mean they're like one
thing there's one major company in the
world that doesn't have some kind of R&D
here now it's amazing so you see all of
these people coming to us be why it's
because we're perceived as a winner
we're perceived as a strong stable
economy and military that again has it's
tough together people want to be with
people who they perceive and with
countries that they perceive as doing
well as winning they don't want to be
with losers how many people are lining
up to do business with Venezuela even
though they have the largest proven
reserves you know like outside of the
outside of the arabian peninsula and of
oil i mean it would seem like yeah in
spite of everything because they're a
failed state that's why nobody wants to
have anything to do with venezuela
because they understand that it's just
sinking money into a hole and so
nobody's gonna go to venezuela and so
you know it where do you want to go to
make
investments people want to go to eat
know they're afraid to go to Egypt
because the Muslim Brotherhood might
take over tomorrow you know and so he's
also been very quiet he's got so many
internal problems I think they had a
million people to gear to their
population they have 93 94 million
people that they have enough reserves to
feed for maybe the next three months
I mean Egypt which used to be Z you know
Arab state and these superpower on that
level here in the Middle East and now
it's like a sidebar it's really the the
silence is deafening coming out of Egypt
like but getting back to Russia because
you know we spoke about empire building
and that's obviously where Iran's going
so you've got Russia which is on that
path as well and you also have Turkey
and these are kinda I want us I don't
know if you like a little loose cannon
here I mean where do you see these two
countries coming into the picture now in
the next few days look in the next few
days I don't know but at where Diwan is
a strategic threat to Israel and it's a
strategic threat to United States and he
is an enemy and he's an enemy that's
also an ally of NATO a NATO member and
it's a problem because if you look at
where Turkey is on the map I'm just you
know sometimes I do this I just stare at
the map of the world for a while and to
really because a lot of times I mean
even I see with my articles and you know
I try tell my editors you have to put a
map in and then they don't you know they
want to put an illustration and they
don't put a map and and a lot of the
stuff you can't understand unless you
look at the geography you have to
understand where people are what are
they involved in what what are they in
charge of what water do they border or
not border you know and when you look at
Turkey on the map you see well maybe you
could do something with George maybe you
can do something with either by jean and
and like get around turkey this way or
that way but turkey just this big thing
it traverses Europe and Asia and it it's
you don't want to give it to Russia and
yet you can really lose Turkey so you
can kind of understand where the US
military in spite of everything won't
take its nuclear arsenal outside of
Incirlik airbase why it won't reduce its
its its dependence on Incirlik for its
air operations and
in Central Asia in the Middle East
because they don't want to get rid of it
it's you can't you can't replace
geography so then the question is well
what do you do about Aryan one and the
answer is you stop empowering him you
know I mean that's the problem and that
is something that I think the Trump is
doing wrong you know you know obviously
I don't know everything that's going on
but I mean he key is publicly praising
air21
and that's a really big mistake I mean
one of the one of the and you know
Harold Road for instance to somebody who
could speak to this better than I but I
thought my stakin you know they had
pastor Brunson that was an American
evangelical pastor living in in in
Turkey for about twenty years and and
mission mission izing in in in Turkey he
had a church and he was arrested after
the attempted fit the failed coup
against air21 and in 2016 and he was
essentially being held hostage because
he didn't do anything I mean it's just
this pastor and some you know bumble
town you know anywhere whatever and he
he was a nobody but he was an American
and they were holding him hostage and it
was fairly clear that he was a hostage
so last year Trump started putting
sanctions on Turkey
until pastor Bronson was let out because
he has a very large of angelical
constituency and they brought it to his
notice and so we did it and he was
publicly threatening Aaron a lot and it
was around that time that air21 started
losing elections so he lost for instance
the election to the mayor of Istanbul
which is where he got his political
start and there's supposed to be like a
focal point of of the of his party of
Islamism in in in in Turkey and yet he
lost and then he tried to steal the
election he canceled the results of the
election there was a reelection and he
lost even worsse his candidate his party
and I would say again the Turks aren't
stupid you know they understand now
what's happening with air too and a lot
of them really support him very much
because they are Islamist they're
Islamic extremists but a lot of them
don't and you know it's gotten to the
point with air21 especially with him
buying
the Russian anti-ballistic missile as400
system which is not as they say
interoperable with NATO f-35 to the
Americans stop delivery of the f-35 is
turkey ordered a hundred of them last
year you know you want to not be as
friend but then after Bronson was
released I mean I'm sure because of the
Pentagon that doesn't want to get rid of
Incirlik you know that doesn't that it's
looking at the map saying we can't lose
Turkey don't look for the quick fix okay
don't leave Incirlik all right I would
get rid of I would take some of those
nuclear weapons out of Incirlik but I've
been saying that for years nobody's
listening to me you know whatever I do
whatever you want but the way to
maintain Incirlik it's not to empower
the guy who's endangering Incirlik it's
to not strengthen him it's to recognize
that he is an enemy of the United States
that what he stands for and what he is
transforming turkey into is bad for
America and that means fine don't get
rid of your real estate keep your real
estate nobody's telling you to stop but
why do you have to be so nice to the guy
why do you have to empower the guy don't
empower him just by not empowering him
by pointing out when he's holding an
American pastor hostage and and putting
sanctions on him he's already losing
steam inside of his own country let the
people of Turkey take care of their air
too one problem he's their problem they
want to be treated well in the world
they want people to invest in the
Turkish economy then they have an
interest in weakening him and not
allowing him to be president for life
they have an interest let them act on
their interest don't don't you don't
have to do everything America doesn't
have to a nation build but one thing it
definitely shouldn't be doing is
empowering the people are harming and so
that's you know that's really what how I
view Turkey and how I view everything
you know fine don't let the Iranians
take care of the regime give them the
tools to take care of the regime don't
throw in the 4th Infantry Division and
take care of the regime and Iran but if
Iran has nuclear installations that have
to be taken out take them out just like
you take out sulemani you know there are
things that are your
look nuclear installations in Iran are
problem for the entire world the Iranian
the existence of the regime itself
that's the Iranian people's problem to
1500 of them were killed in two weeks by
these people and when you talk about an
Iranian regime where women have one
point nine children per family you know
they're not interested in sacrificing
their children there is no such thing as
cannon fodder in a country that's below
replacement level fertility rates so
again what are you thinking about Putin
there are there any pressure points that
the United States can put there because
I mean is Russia democracy can the
Russians take care of Putin do they even
want to as I was in Saint Petersburg in
June talking to people yeah I mean
they're not very happy there there's
kind of a veneer and they're still not
where they want to be but did they see a
replacement for him do they like what
he's doing by getting bigger and bigger
on the world stage no but I think part
of the problem there is that the United
States doesn't have a lot of leverage
with Russia anymore because the Chinese
have sort of taken over the eye Russian
economy which is a completely different
issue and we don't have time to talk
about it today but you know you have to
look realistically at what you can do
and you have to look realistically at
the threats that you can handle and the
ones that you're gonna have to leave for
another day you know that means that you
try to neutralize them as much as
possible but you're not going to take
them out today and so like for instance
my friend David Goldman who's really an
expert on the on the trade war between
the Chinese and the Americans and he's
very critical of of what the president
has been doing with the trade agreement
with right with the Chinese you know he
wrote to some blur very briefly I think
on his Facebook page where he was saying
that the Chinese and the trade deal got
the got the better end that they got the
better outcome than the Americans and
that it's translated and had their stay
there their stock market is has gone up
much higher than that then the New York
Stock Exchange has as a result of the
agreement and he may be right but the
question is this what are you what are
your core competencies what can you work
on today what are the things that you
can take off your plate that are going
to enable you to develop the tools to
deal with China because you know a lot
of the things
he's been talking about like the 5g my
husband is a physicist and so he
understands his stuff a lot better than
I do and he said look the there's a lot
of hype about Chinese fifth generation
internet it's not it's not nearly ready
and it's not as good as people are
making it out to be but which is which
is good to know for instance most people
don't know that I certainly didn't know
that until he told me and the thing is
is that you have to develop American
technology there are a lot of long-term
issues that the United States has to
deal with and in the meantime you don't
want to get bogged down with Iran having
a nuclear weapon you don't want to get
bogged down with Turkey being empowered
because you're you're sucking up to your
enemy air Tawan you don't want to be
bogged down with to Putin either I mean
you don't want to overthrow Putin what
does that mean even like who's gonna
take over oh yeah you know George
Washington is gonna come riding in on
his horse and they're gonna take over
Russia and turn it into America of
course not that's a lie I mean look what
happened to them after the Soviet devise
they brought in the KGB to run Russia I
mean they'd like after a brief period
with with Yeltsin the Drunken charge
they brought in the KGB to take things
over so you're not talking about a
country that has any liberal democratic
background whatsoever so what do you do
with Russia will you do with Russia's
you try to keep it away from you just
like in the fedora and the roof may God
keep bless and keep the Tsar far away
from us I mean it's the same kind of
concept with Russia so what he's doing
for instance with the gas pipeline to
Germany is very smart you know
decrease their ability to subvert
American interests inside of Europe
these are important things America has
core interests in Europe diminished
you're Russia's opportunities there to
harm me if you overthrow the regime in
Iran and another regime comes in and
they want to make good ties they want
developed good ties with Russia fine let
them you know the Americans should be
there first because then that keeps the
Russians out of out of Iran you know you
the Americans have an interest in having
a strategic alliance with the Iranians
just like Israel has there's an interest
in having a strategic alliance with the
Iranians the Russians aren't wrong
- one aside with the Shiites against the
Sunnis it's just that American Israel
can't side with Iran today because the
regime is it their enemy so if you
overthrow the regime the fact that
Russia wants their have close ties with
Iran is much less of a problem so the
point is there are things that you can
do to diminish Russia's ability to
threaten you they don't necessarily
involve confronting Putin they involve
the diminishing his opportunity to
subvert your interests and your allies
and I would say that you know I like I
said I have criticism what he's doing in
Turkey I think it's a mistake and I
think that he should have a much colder
relationship with era - and I think
Israel for instance has to be much more
aggressive and in blocking the Turks
inroads into the Israeli Arab community
that they've been funding and building
mosques and schools and particularly in
Jerusalem they've been doing this but
also in the Galilee and I think that
Israel has to throw them out I mean I
think that there are things that have to
be done that can be done about Turkey's
operations at Washington these are
things that the Americans can do - to
weaken an enemy it's a one last player
that's out there that we haven't spoken
about the Europeans where you see them
in this whole thing because there's NATO
and they really don't they can't defend
themselves the Europeans so were they
sitting in this whole thing with Iran
well the Europeans have been Pro Iran I
mean they've been keeping the regime
afloat and they've been keeping the
nuclear deal afloat basically in
collusion with with Obama with the
Democrats they have been doing this you
know Kerry's been operating really very
treacherously an independent foreign
policy towards the Europeans with
mogherini who's now leaving and
apparently the person who's replacing
her is just as bad if not worse in terms
of anti-americanism and anti-semitism
but I mean this has been the way that
they've been operating but Merkel is
about to leave Germany and that's a good
thing and France is falling apart so you
have England not where we were worried
it would be a month ago which is amazing
and so the point is here to like you
know Europe has always been a problem
for the United States and obviously for
the Jews and I mean America is an Azeri
is a rejection of Europe America was
founded by people who rejected Europe
and it should just cling to that because
the closer the United States becomes to
Europe the worse it is for America and I
think the British finally got that does
you know got that through their heads
which is why they voted the majority of
the British people voted for leaving the
European Union and then they brought in
Boris Johnson to execute the withdrawal
from the European Union so that's a huge
deal for America and for Israel and by
the way I don't even think that Boris
Johnson is that fantastic because he's
you know when he was foreign minister
under Theresa May he operated a
standard-issue British foreign policy
towards Israel which was which was
hostile so I'm not you know I bet he's
better than Corbin he's better than
Corbin and is better than Patrice May
who is basically like the the British
version of a deep state er and so you
know so he's in there now it's a huge
opportunity for the United States to
weak in Europe which is also important
you know the the the Americans regarding
NATO and regarding the European Union
had this default position and the post
Cold War period that was sort of nobody
really thought about it like the default
position of NATO of the United States
and NATO is to expand it eastward why
well I don't know well you know let's
bring in Ukraine what you know what are
you talking about you think that the
Russians will ever let go of the Ukraine
like are you are you serious are you
stupid
I mean why why do you want to do that
what its strategic interests does it
does it advance to bring in countries to
an alliance that you will never go to
war to protect they're not important
enough to you from a strategic
perspective obviously from a human
perspective boy oh boy that sucks but
you're not gonna do anything about it so
why are you committing yourself to a war
to protect countries that you will not
protect because you're not thinking it
about it you're saying oh we won the
Cold War yeah let's so
gobble up the Warsaw Pact countries and
bring them into NATO for no end so
that's what the Americans did and some
of it is sign you know you bring in them
poles that's great but you know if the
Russians invade Poland what does the
ISIS gonna do the idea is to strengthen
Poland so that the Russians won't want
to invade it which is a better thing and
that's more economic I think even but
having said that so that's NATO and
there was also an even stupider American
idea which was oh the European Union is
great no it's not the European Union was
an anti-american project from the very
beginning and so the idea that you want
to empower the European Union is totally
antithetical to American strategic
interests because the European Union
thinks that they can freeload off of the
United States militarily and then oppose
the United States as a bloc
diplomatically so what did the United
States gain from having a European
super-state that's able to direct the
foreign policies of the poles and of of
the Dutch and of I mean why would you
want that you know you want to be able
to work with like-minded countries are
hungry why would you end because really
if you're like if you read your own kozo
news book on nationalism which is a
really key contribution to the whole
conceptualization and understand
philosophically of the European Union I
mean it's basically a way to rebuild the
German Empire but do it through economic
as opposed to military means because
what is the central component of the
European Union what is the country that
has been most empowered by the European
Union well it's them Germans and as it
works out when we see the Germans
refusing to allow Hezbollah
defending for dear life the nuclear deal
with Iran voting against Israel what on
30 resolutions in the past month in the
Europe in the United Nations and having
just run away anti-semitism and paying
tens of millions of dollars every year
to fund these anti Israel pressure
groups both inside of Europe and
throughout inside of Israel and
throughout your
you see that they still hate us that
Germany is still Israel's enemy no
matter how nicely they talk to us when
they're speaking to us face to face and
so why on earth would anybody support
this I mean I remember one time I was
talking to Silvan Shalom when he was
foreign minister because I had just
attacked him bitterly in a column
because he said he wanted Israel to join
the European Union and I said to him he
and then you know he said oh would you
why don't you come and meet with it's
okay obviously he was foreign minister
at the time and he said I don't
understand why were you criticizing me
and I said what is it that Europe didn't
explain to you they watered their grass
with our blood what is it that still
hasn't congealed for you coagulated what
what don't you understand what do they
need to spell out their policies the
only foreign policy that they have is to
oppose us at every level all of the time
in a passive-aggressive economic and
diplomatic war against the Jewish state
what is it that they have to clarify for
you they don't like us they know they
don't like Jews they've never liked Jews
not when it was because we killed Christ
not when you know it was because we're
capitalists not because we were
communists they never liked us and now
we're nationalists Jewish state when
they're trying to erase all kinds of
different identities your arm talks
about that in his book as well it's an
important book very important books
point as I said what is it that you
don't understand you know it's the same
question that you have to pose to the
Israeli left right because basically
what they're saying is we're post
nationalists we we don't like this whole
national project for Israel and
therefore we agree with the Europeans
that there shouldn't be a Jewish state
well see ok that's problem right I mean
we can talk about it a little bit but
not too much because this isn't an issue
that we're gonna actually give any
ground on so if you don't like Israel
leave because there's nothing we can do
about it this is the Jewish
it's a nation state we're nationalists
and and we want to preserve our nation
that's why we make became here we didn't
come here to be a post nationalist state
we're surrounded by a billion Muslims
there's no non-muslim country between
Israel and India so when you're and if
anti-semitism gets worse around the
world which is some of you won't even
have time to discuss we'll have to do it
another time we might have some people
who need a little haven which is I hope
not but that's some you know that's
where it's looking look you and I both
made alia and we didn't need a haven we
came here because we're Jewish
nationalists because we believe in being
part of the most extraordinary thing
that the Jewish people have done since
the destruction of the Second Temple and
we're very lucky and our children are
blessed because we were we we had the
gumption to do it but and everybody
should do it but you know the point is
we like we like the Jewish state and you
know people who don't want it you know
we're not interested in having them
subvert everything that people have
built here thank God and that's that you
know so but the point is just to end you
know what happened yesterday was that I
woke up the morning and I and I got the
news you know from my trusty phone that
said that sulemani had just been killed
by the Americans and I can't remember
being so happy about a single event you
know aside from getting married and
having your kids ever because this was
an extraordinary an extraordinary
development it was pure good on every
level there's no drawback to it
everybody says America is you know Iran
is gonna go to word the United States I
ran his bin at war as my friend Michael
Adina in Washington has pointed I think
in every conversation I've had with him
over the past 20 years Iran has been at
war with the United States since 1979 so
it's not a matter of Iran will go to war
they have been hitting America and of
course Israel with everything
they can sit for 42 years 41 years now
this is a 41st year and and and and the
concept that there is an action that the
United States can undertake that's going
to change the nature of this regime is
insane what it can do is there an
inaction and America God think got it
god Bless America and President Donald
Trump they took it yesterday and it is
changing Iran and Iran is changing and
they're giving a back when to the people
who are changing it for the better
because what comes after this regime is
a question but we know what we have with
the regime and it's a very bad devil
that we know and I'm sure that any devil
that we don't know that may come up and
hopefully we won't get that we'll get a
great regime but we don't know we'll
deal with that later right now we're
dealing with a regime that is satanic
that is on the verge of acquiring
nuclear weapons that has its talons that
reach across the globe and attack
American interests Israeli interests
American people Jewish people throughout
the world so and it was run by Qasem
Soleimani and now he is dead so the
world is definitely a better place today
than it was yesterday and what comes out
so clearly is what an a-line wouldn't
ask that Israel is to the United States
if there's one country in the world as
little in gutsy as it is it's the one
that you and I live in that's right and
Israel has no better friend than
President Donald Trump Carolyn Glick
thank you so much for your insight into
a very interesting situation that I'm
sure will only be developing in many
different directions over the next few
weeks take care everybody Yves herro
rejuvenation on the Land of Israel
Network thanks to Tabitha thanks to Ben
have a great week everybody goodbye for
now
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this week on inside Israel today with
Gil Hoffman an exclusive interview with
former Israeli ambassador to the u.s.
Michael Oren on the rash of anti-semitic
attacks in America those attacks on Jews
in New York is not isolated incidents
but part of a national scourge that has
to be confronted and not just by putting
policeman in front of synagogues for the
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