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Rabbi Daniel Kalish Shiurim

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But I want to share tell you with the chevra. If everybody could please focus hard. Tosefta Menachot brings two machlokes that I want everybody to be aware of yet say. Machlokes number one is he brings the shita of the Bahag. We have a mitzvah as spoken in Parshat Emor. We have a mitzvah deoraita misfar temimot chem count for yourselves mimachrat haShabbat from the day after Shabbat which interestingly means Pesach. Miyom havi'achem et omer hatnufah on the day you bring the korban omer sheva shabbatot count seven weeks 49 days temimot tihiyenah they shall be whole a mitzvah deoraita of Sefirat haOmer. Comes Tosefta and he brings the shita of the Bahag that if somebody didn't count that night that day he should count it with a bracha bayom. You have an entire 24 hour period to count that day. The Bahag says if one did not count by night one absolutely should count by day with a bracha. That's the shita of the Bahag. Tosefta 66 brings the shita of Rabbeinu Tam who argues on the Bahag. Rabbeinu Tam says not like the Bahag. Rabbeinu Tam says one can only count at night. One may not count by day. If you didn't count by night you don't count by day not with a bracha not without a bracha you don't count by day the count is by night. So we have Rabbeinu Tam who says you only count by night not by day. We have the Bahag who says you count by day. Machlokes the Bahag and Rabbeinu Tam if you can count with a bracha by day this mitzvah our sphere haOmer. We have a second month like this at the end of Tosis, the very same Tosis. He brings the Bahag who says if you lose one day, sure they know I suffer. A person doesn't count anymore. The sheet of the Bahag, as we will see we do not pass through like this Bahag. We will see. But the Bahag says that if somebody misses a day, then I can't even say those words. The Bahag The Bahag says Sure they know I suffer. If you count if you miss by night, one can no longer count. You can say the words I want. Okay. So if somebody misses by not misses entire 24 hours, the Bahag says the person can't count anymore. Says Tosis the tame of the day low. Whenever you have a year this hour is a tame or is a pillar, is it reconcilable wonder cuz it can't be. The Rabbeinu Tam says Tosis says tame of the day low low you talking. It's impossible. So Rabbeinu Tam Tosis couldn't say it either. He says tame of the day low it's a wonder to say a year is ever out. Low you talking it's impossible. So that's that So we have in Tosis two months like some. We have Bahag Rabbeinu Tam and Bahag against he doesn't say a name Avi. He just it's Tosis son. So everybody please get more of these two months like some. One month like this if you miss counting at night. The Bahag says you should count by DAY. WHAT A BROCHA. ONE. On that Rabbeinu Tam argues, you miss by night you do not count by day. Month like this one. Month like this two. The Bahag says if you miss a day, you are out. You said it I didn't. And Rabbeinu he said and then he said you're talking to me you certainly not out. Two months later now what do we do with these two months later so if we miss by night we count by day but since we're being told not to count by day we do without a bra where my like the behind said to absolutely count by day so we do without a bra. If we miss an entire day we absolutely pass like you're absolutely in and we don't make a bra because the behind said you're out in deference to the behind we don't make a bra so we absolutely count the rest and we're in and we're to count the rest we do without a bra because the behind said you're out now. How about if a person say I can what is a person do? A person who counted by day he missed that night and he counted by day. Should he continue counting the rest with a bra? He missed by night but he counted by day should he keep counting with a bra? Do we say guys say of course maybe he shouldn't cuz there's a sad that if you miss a day you're out the behind and this guy missed the night and his one sheet you got to count that night. So if a guy missed that night and counted by day why does he continue with a bra the guys are accurate like that he counts with a bra I want to tell you Abby where is mayor learns in Yeshiva and impacts the Yeshiva mayor Zada said something brilliant and I want the guys to get what Mayor Kolevsky is saying to say. Most of the world assumes the assumption, the reason why we keep counting with a bracha, one safek bracha says lechula. If we have a safek bracha, we do not make the bracha. We don't say Hashem's name is safek. Safek bracha is lechula. However, most assume it's called the sfek sfeka. First of all, we have the sheet of the Bahag you're allowed to count by day. So first of all, maybe I counted by day, I counted fine cuz I counted by day. If I missed the night and counted by day. So first of all, you're allowed to count by day. Alef. And even if you say you're not allowed to count the day, we have the sheet of Tosfos that if you miss a day, you're still in. So it's a sfek sfeka and that lets me make a bracha. That's how most of the world understands it. It's a true mesader a sfek sfeka allows me to keep counting. Because first of all, I counted by day and we have the Bahag you're allowed to count by day. Even if the Bahag's wrong and you're not allowed to count by day, we have the sheet of Tosfos that if you miss a day, you still count. I have a sfek sfeka I can count with a bracha. You would assume that's what most of the world thinks. Comes Rav Kolevsky and he says that is not the svara. There's a much better reason why you're allowed to count with a bracha. Listen to what he said. Nothing wrong with that. It's a good svara. This will just be it's not mesafek. That but I'm yoitzei even without a bracha. A bracha is a wonderful thing but I'm yoitzei. Even if you hold you need a bracha, you're yoitzei. You're still yoitzei without a bracha. Even if you hold you need one and you forget the bracha, you're yoitzei. Even though a R' Tsvi Pesach Frank, who wears that? The pastor says you're Yiddish. Now, comes with Kolavsky, everybody listen to this and he says tremendous. Kolavsky says what's the reason the mind the omer that you're not letting count by day? We don't make a bracha by day. Why can't you count by day? Said Kolavsky, the it's in one twice this has two marks like him. He brings two behags. He brings a behag that if you miss by night, you can count by day and Rabenu Tam argues says you miss by night, you're out. Can't count by day. He has a second side of behag that if you miss one day, you're out. And he says that's impossible. Don't you dare say that while you're talking time of the day he says not to say. So he has two marks like him. Comes Kolavsky and he says these two marks like him are linked. They're not unconnected. He says as follows. The possuk says count. It says Shabba shabbasa's to me my stayana. It says start counting seven whole shabba shabbasa's seven weeks shabba shabbasa's to me my stayana they shall be whole. Says Kolavsky there two ways of understanding whole. What does it mean to me my stay should be whole? Rabenu Tam learned whole, it means count whole days. Count whole days means count by night. If you counted by day, you already missed too much of the day, it's not called to me my stay. A whole day is a night and a day. Count a night and a day whole days. At the point the day came, you missed the night, it's no longer whole. That's why you can't count by day cuz to me my stayana means I want you to count whole days. A whole day means a night and a day. So, if you miss by night, you no longer have a whole segment. You can't call it a whole day. You have no night of it. You only have a day. That is the reason Rabbeinu Tam says you can't count by day. The Bahag says if you miss a day, you can't count anymore cuz he learns to me my stiana, a whole day, whole days means don't miss any of the seven weeks. If you miss the day, you're out to me my stiana. He learns that to me my stianas I want sheva shvo'i, seven weeks. TO ME MY STIANA, seven full weeks. It has to be you count the entire seven weeks. So, comes out says Rav Kolevsky, if a guy misses by night and counts by day, it's impossible to not let him count with a bracha. Because if to me my stiana means if you miss a day, you're out, so then you're allowed to count by day. Because you don't have the drasha to say you can't count by day. If to me my stiana means that you have to count by night, not by day, then there is no drasha to say if you miss a day, you're out. So, me mana shach, you it can't be if you counted by yom that you're out. It's not a sfeik sfeika, it's called a me mana shach. No matter what, I can't be out. You can't nail me both ways. If you want to say you didn't count at night, you missed by day, and by day it doesn't count, so you're learning to me my stiana to mean count at night, not by day. So, then I have no drasha if I miss the day, I'm out. So, I can keep counting with a bracha the next day. If to me my stiana means if you miss a day, you're out, then I'm allowed to count by day. You have no drasha to say I can't count by day. So, it's impossible if a guy misses by night and counts by day, it's not a sfeik sfeika, it's the Torah as fada. Me mana shach, he's allowed to count going forward because either to me my means you missed the day you're out then I was a lot of count till you go by day. I did nothing wrong. I counted by day. And if to me my means I can't count by day then there's no drasha that I'm out. So my mother shook, I'm allowed to keep counting. A brilliant Rav Kanievsky, that's the halacha l'maaseh. If you miss by night [applause] and count by day, you're absolutely keep going WITH THE BRACHA. >> [applause] >> AMAZING AMAZING RAV KANIEVSKY. YEAH, amazing Rav Kanievsky. That's It's the only word to me. That you have to count by night. Yeah. >> [applause] >> That's why that looks so loud. But just to get it, let me say, if somebody misses a night and a day, if somebody missed two weeks, please spread the word. Don't ever say you're out, you're not just you're not out, it's tragic. We have a mitzvah and you're obligated to keep counting. You don't make a bracha cuz there's a sheet of a bhag by the way who are near like who said if you missed a day, a week or a month, they should stop counting. You absolutely should count, you should continue counting. This was the halacha of the Sefiras HaOmer. Don't make a bracha by day. That's because Rabbeinu Tam says that to me my means you have to count by night, not by day. So we make by day. If you miss by night because the bhag says you're allowed to count by day with a bracha, we count without a bracha. That's what we do. So if you miss by night, count the next day without a bracha. If you counted the next day without a bracha, you go back to counting with a bracha the rest of the Sefiras HaOmer, you with the bracha. You're absolutely with the bracha. So, that's that's the that's the halacha. A very good shaila, Rabbi I say, that I'll ask the Island Berach. Is it a gishmaka shaila for the chevre? Is let's say a guy missed the night and a day, and he's no longer counting with a bracha, could I do the following thing? Could I say take a fellow who's still counting and ask him, "Can I be motzei you in your bracha? I want to say the bracha badly. I don't want to lose the bracha. The bracha's priceless. A bracha that it's announcing, "I'm doing this asher kidishanu b'mitzvotav." I want to say the bracha. Could I be motzei you in the bracha? Now, do you say l'fi the bahag that you're out, you're not called the bar chiyuva, and to ever say shomeya kohen you have to hear it from a bar chiyuva? And the bahag who says t'mimus means you have to count the 49 days. So, if you missed a day or two, you're no longer a bar chiyuva? Or do we say no, a vadem called a bar chiyuva? I can't be m'kayem my chiyuv because I don't have the t'mimus, but I'm still a bar chiyuva. If a guy missed the 24 hours, could he be motzei somebody in a bracha? Is a fascinating lomdish shaila. Do you say he's not a bar chiyuva anymore, he's out? Or do you say still a bar chiyuva? I want to say b'dieved b'dieved, I pasken that you absolutely could be motzei somebody in a bracha because to me it's temur gedola to ever say somebody's out, it's lo ya'akov, it's not possible. So, even the bahag who says you can't count with a bracha, you're very much a bar chiyuva. Vadai you're a bar chiyuva in Sefiras HaOmer. You absolutely had the chiyuv. So, very shiyach he could be motzei another Yid. Certainly, there's a story with the Brisker Rav, he did it. So, I'm not paskening from nowhere. He was mighty. There was he had a suffix one year and he asked the year that people held that he held this very that you still call the Bar Yochai. It's Kadish the Brusker to rely on. But, so I failed to choose now the signal we learned this summer in Sukkah that Yatz might see here might be worse than Yatz might see because here you could find I no longer have the here like I'm not in the game to do it. I have a night and I'm not in the game. I agree with right tailor. I think of I had to just like Yatz Yatz might see I'm no worse than the guy with Yatz today. I don't want to argue with him because I agree with right tailor very much so and say you're still in it. It's a good shower. Yeah, yeah, it's a good When I say we're on the same side we both even the Bahag I just needed to find even in the Bahag that you're not out. You still call the Bar Yochai. You are dying in this year Bar Yochai. The guys were all frustrated with me that I said you have a here meal about Lila you just can't do it. I'm nailing you with another one. I'm saying according to the Bahag the guy you missed the week still a Bar Yochai. You absolutely are Bar Yochai. I can't do it. I'm I'm to me myself. I broke to me myself. So, maybe I can't do it. I could be mighty another year. I'm called the Bar Yochai remarkably and I could be mighty another year in this bracha. It's a stickle aitsa. If your guy you wants to make a bracha, if you want to be mighty get somebody especially the person counted and again they have to be willing to hear the bracha from you but you could even get your bracha back if they allow you to be mighty see them. The Bessie says the shliach tzibbur I wouldn't do it. If you're the shliach tzibbur and you've missed your count I would you're still michuyav. I wouldn't make the unless something I would I would say is as follows. There are cases where you're going to be embarrassed. A guy is for the and you realize you lost your count. It gets awkward. So you could say to somebody count for me. Could do that. That's in bounds. But what you could do is you're the ask your friend that I want to count. I don't want to show that that I missed one night. So let me be you in the count. You'll be him in the and you count with a that's 100% in bounds. It's a cool idea. If you're at the you have that you need to count and you lost your count, you can't make a ask a guy in the crowd I'll be you. If you ever see a your friend up there, you could ask him did you miss? He's like, yeah. Say be to me. I'll listen. You're still in. He's in the count. He makes the and then you both count. What? But you don't want your friend more than you want the so you want your friend not to be so your friend's up there telling you lost the say make it you'll be me in the you're good to go. Even though you gave up your but it's certainly worth it to give it not to embarrass your friend. It's it's certainly a plan to do that.