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Text-Based Tanya—Week #67

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all right weekly text-based Tanya we are on chapter 30 39 very good very very good okay just a little review a little review I only want I'm not going to go back to the first chapter of Tanya I want to just go back to chapter 35. just back to 35. in chapter 35 we addressed the issue that debate me the person's following the guidance of the altarebit experiences a crisis I'm saying back in chapter 35 where he basically says he or she says what's the point of this program called Tanya where I know that the best I'll ever achieve is behavioral Perfection and I'll never be rid of my internal conflict and basically we answer power this person what so what are the answers oh the power of action the power of action yeah so we say the the person well maybe you want you need to understand better the power of action I'll use those words okay uh and we said explicitly that even if someone were at sadik meaning they did have internal Perfection the only way that they can actually make a real difference and achieve the purpose for which the world was created and for which their soul was sent here is really only through action not through their amazing insides their amazing intellect and emotions and we basically focused on that theme for three chapters 35 36 and 37. as we came to chapter 38 we sort of addressed you know classic Jewish argument always has to present a point and a Counterpoint though on the other hand on the other hand um and it's not contradiction it's basically it's in order to address all the nuances of a complex subject so last you oversimplify things and think that because we said that action is so important and action is what transforms the World and Action is what makes the physical world a dwelling place for Hashem unless you oversimplify that and you think well oh then all I need to do is focus on action so chapter 38 comes in and says hey there's more to it than just action there's also intent Havana very good okay and as I explained to you last week the reason that intent or kavana is important is not is not important for a different reason than why action is important it's re it's important for the same reason remember we spoke about maybe it wasn't last week maybe it was two weeks ago the whole concept of making the dwelling place for Hashem but it's not well lit through our actions we can transform the physical world into a long place for Hashem but the degree to which that Dwelling Place will actually shine so to speak when mashir comes that's uh to be determined and will be commensurate to the degree of kavana with which we do our Mitzvah so yes the critical factor is the doing without the doing then nothing gets transformed but there is a a spectrum of intensity to which this will actually um be will reveal its godliness and that that intensity is on a Continuum that is based on how much cavana we put into our Mitzvahs remember we spoke about that a couple weeks ago okay and in chapter 38 which we finished we focused mostly on the idea of different levels of kavana actually two different levels of cavano remember this uh we spoke about really four levels but two of them are two levels of Mitzvah acts and then two levels are levels of Mitzvah intent so let's just review that what we spoke about last week we had the four levels of correspond to inanimate vegetative animal and human so the bottom two levels correspond to two levels of Mitzvah acts the lowest level the inanimate those are Mitzvahs that are done through pure action then the higher level vegetative that's like Mitzvahs that are done through speech or thought thank you and then you have the top two levels which are two levels of intent so the lower levels the one that corresponds to animals and that is the intent that comes from our natural inborn love and awe of God which is hardwired into the neshama we've learned about that at length back in chapters 18-25 then the higher level which corresponds to Human is when the intent meaning the love and the awe of God specifically is a product of meditation we thought ourselves into love and awe of Hashem okay so that's where we're up to right now as we're about to start pediglomet test Chapter 39. yeah okay so let's jump in um this is why what is why what we're talking about last week that the level of intent that corresponds to animal is a love that comes from it's instinctive it's instinctive so this is why I mean that concept from last chapter some that some of the angels are called Animals like it says in the vision of The Chariot and the face of a lion was on the right in the face of the ox was on the left in fact there are um animals who are not animals there are angels who are called Animals we call them the Hayes they're holy animals yeah they're angels and they're called Animals you ever heard of the highest akadish we say it in davening in Birches when we're yeah they say college I love that response why are we talking about angels let's talk about souls we don't need to hear about angels let Angels get their own Tanya this is our book okay it's a great I love the attitude but let me let me explain to you he's explaining to you the level of kavana which comes from your native inborn instinctive love and all of a chef so he says by the way there are angels who love Hashem instinctively just what they do like the birds know how to fly south for the winter you know well like the beaver knows how to build the dam you know they just know how to didn't go to college for that they just do it right so the Angels instinctively serve Hashem and they're called Animals they're called Animals the Fisher they are not they don't have free choice they're all and love of Hashem is instinctive for them you want to know more about that read right Muhammad of partials that's from the zaihar Volo therefore this is what you wanted to know the level of tadiq is higher than the angels why keep Mother Nature the level now we're going to talk a lot about levels different levels different worlds you know about the four worlds there are many more than four worlds but just generally four systems of reality which are parallel to each other the highest one is called Silas is the world of emanation it is a world that is hardly a world that can barely qualify as a world a world in incredish is which is from the etymological root the sharedish which is halem which is concealment a world is a concealment it is a system which hides Creator behind creation so the first world is at silos the world of emanation it could hardly even be called a world it's so uh so thin flimsy emanation emanation but don't don't even write the word emanation because it's not a normal word that anyone has used in conversation this year I'm just trans I'm just TR I'm translating atcillos means emanation but don't write that down because that doesn't mean anything because you don't even know what an emanation is who tell me what's an emanation it's a thing I don't know what's an emanation it emanates yeah that's right lamination it comes out of something yeah okay don't worry about it it's just it's just the name of it it's just the name of it what what actually it's not yishmai no no Bria is ilos can it's not even it's not even a yish the highest world is so um bottled it is so nullified that it barely qualifies as a world what's a world okay let's talk about this what's going on there what's going well what's going on in every world was God every God what's going on with God the question as to what degree do you perceive it and at Silas you perceive it so well that I'll put it this way there's an expression that inazilos everything is the opposite as as it is in the other three worlds it's interesting because yeah the other there's that Silas and then there's the other three worlds in the in Bria yitzira Asia and I'll translate those for you but it doesn't mean anything but yeah means creation utsira means formation Asia means making you can write it down if you want it doesn't mean anything in the other three Worlds the lower three worlds we say that and the Locos is that the concept of world is taken for granted that is axiomatic and the concept of godliness is abstract whereas in at Silas it's the exact opposite that velt is the concept of a world is a philosophical idea up there and the concept of God is empirical reality okay so when you're talking about at Silas you're talking about a world where the idea of creation is theoretical and Creator is practical who lives there um there are special and entities in azulus called natsalim emanations that hang out in the world of emanation what we're going to find out we're going to find out let's just hold on and find out what do you mean is these levels I mean we've spoken about them before and Tanya we've spoken about the worlds before we spoke about our Tillerson chapter two back in chapter two we spoke about at Silas why has everything to do with us say they're stouseless there's a system it's a process yeah world upon world upon world yeah yeah that's true okay so what's the discussion going on what's the what are you trying to why okay well you could ask me about it they could ask me that what do you want to know what as the battle three worlds intertwined with each other what does intertwined mean you received the question but you didn't get them yeah okay we're passing out mushrooms in the back over there okay all right so atsilos is a lofty world it's so lofty it could hardly be considered a World Bria is the next World Bria is already more of a solid world where the entities there already have more of a concept of self now it's still very very lofty it's a spiritual world the world where angels and souls reside and very very lofty angels for that matter but it's uh it's lower than at silos even lower and over there you have more sense of selfhood where the entities have a greater sense that they uh they're they're surrendered to Hashem but they they feel like they exist and they have an existence which they surrender to Hashem and then yeah that's Asia Asia is the lowest world and Asia has two parts to it it has the spiritual a part of asea and has the physical part of us here Asia is the only world that has a Physical Realm the physical universe is totally within asea that's that's the lowest World okay so it'll be helpful for the next couple of chapters to remember Asia okay um so what did we just say we said that the Angels serve Hashem with instinctive emotions and therefore they're called animals and therefore the tadikem are higher than them because the Sadiq him have free choice they don't do it instinctively automatically they do it by choice and therefore the level of the tsadiq is higher than the level of the Angels the angels are on what level what did we say where's their Dwelling Place the Angels Bria Bria and the level I'm sorry yitzira I'm sorry thank you thank you yeah yeah and the level of the sadikim what so here what we okay so things are going to get more complex later because there are angels yes there are different Angels yes yes but right now the angels that we're speaking about the highest the angels that are called animals are on the level of yitzira and that Sadiq came around the level of Brio so the angels are on a lower level why not okay we'll make a motion to change yeah the term why sweet everything's here because we're talking about dimensions at Silas is also here everything's here I mean it's all right here the question is what do we perceive these are not spatial these are not Realms that are made of three-dimensional space it's not like you can locate them on a map there are other planes of of reality it's a good question I don't know I'm not sure if there's a way of knowing specifically which Angels they were but the generic Angels stom angels are Hayes and they're from the level of yitzira and they're emotional they serve Hashem emotionally I thought instinctive that's the same that's synonymous emotional and instinctive or synonymous yes yeah okay let me explain that better um when I say emotionally I mean instead of the emotions being born from intellect it's just they go straight to the emotion which is why we call it instinctive as opposed to the level of that sadikim where they start with the intellect and they meditate and they create emotions so we're talking basically about two levels of kavana intellectual and emotional now all kavana is emotional because all kavanas love and all of God but the question is are the emotions from emotions are the emotions from intellect you follow good okay uh uh no they're from one or the other okay we're talking about generic angels don't get confused there are higher level angels in the world of Bria they serve Hashem with love and awe that are intellectual loving all right like it says over there which is a section of Desire here's your taxonomy when you go to your uh tour of the higher worlds tivium you have Heiser kadish which are instinctive which are intellectual your commission because of a time like it's explained in vital's it's high but I have those Shiba name who the difference between them is IRA hello the Middle East of Hashem are shining the emotional traits which means the love and the awe of Hashem equations like it says [Music] that the six spheroes that means the emotional spheros are called the six figures they they hang out they nest in yitzira so follow this the four worlds have different characteristics yitzira is generally characterized as corresponding to the emotions the six emotions you know what the six emotions are you say no not malcolors that would be seven you really want to get confused okay you know what go ahead since you brought it up it's not an emotion what is it what is it it's not an emotion it is the receptacle where the emotions are deposited and then turned into expression yes and which world would that correspond to if the six emotions correspondence okay good making something out of it right okay all right good hmm recycling is expression well I mean Marcus's expression it's not recycling it's it's not it's taking the raw materials and building something out of it okay how we doing hanging in there are you wishing for earlier chapters of Tanya they didn't speak so much about angels and worlds I warned you a couple weeks ago that these chapters are tough remember when I told you a couple weeks ago I said I've been dreading these chapters for a year oh you weren't here a couple weeks ago I said I've been dreading these chapters because I'm talking about angels and about higher worlds and it's sometimes it can feel like well what does it have to do with me okay but just hang in there it all has to do with us and we're going to get through this all right um this is the way the malach and the angels serve Hashem all the time day and night without rest serving standing before him with awe foreign you have the whole Camp of Gabriel on the left Gabriel is an angel of that's why his name is Gabriel yeah an angel of on the left is cool then you have the angel Mahal who is on the right love has it on the right however that was yitzira let's talk about Bria you understand yitzira is an emotional world and everything there is defined by the emotions the six emotions which the six emotions basically break down into two categories right and left love and awe we know this we've learned this before everything in yitzira comes down to emotion that's how we categorize everything in utsira we categorize it emotionally because that's the That's the basis of reality in that world just like maybe in the physical world you would speak about things in terms of their physical location you would describe everything in terms of where it is on the emotional Spectrum is it right is it left okay hold on hold up this is highly complex I just want to push through here however he says however but he is a higher world than Utz there is which is the source and the mother of the emotions you could use a bit to call him like it says this eternal mother the Supreme mother nests in the three sphere eyes which are the three intellectual spheres which is okay very good chapter three yeah that's you're saying where it says that the intellect are the mothers of the emotions that is in chapter three excellent I was gonna even ask that but I didn't want to break the flow but no that's great that's great that you remember that okay does everyone have the map just just let's not get let's not get complex let's just keep it really really super simple okay how many worlds do we have okay so far we've only spoken about two of them really we spoke about Bria and yitzira okay we really only spoke about Bria brie is an intellectual world yitzira is an emotional world that's all we said for yeah just the right and the left correspond to the ventricles as well I don't know I don't know I'd want to get complex I don't want to I don't wanna no probably not okay do we have this much clear am I losing you in the back yeah yes yes yes our our emotional Angels there so you have the camp or the camp of Gabriel in the camp of Mahal you have the Buddha camp in the Hassan Camp once you're defining things in terms you're talking probably about yatira because that's where everything gets defined according to emotions what we're going to say the email I'm not going to say much about it I just want to keep it really really brief it's BINA and it's in which world but yeah that's it that's all you need to know that's all you need to know okay okay okay let's keep moving here look you know I I was just talking to somebody not in real life but an email who told me she is in a Tanya class where they took eight and a half years to get through Tanya oh my God and I was thinking what no they met every week but you know what they did you know what they did every interesting question that everyone asked they would discuss it we don't have time for that okay so yeah I know sometimes it feels very harsh when I'm like I don't want to talk about it it's too confusing but we would be here it would take us eight and a half years to get through time yet so okay I don't have a source for it if that's the thing I don't like to say things based on maybe not I don't like to say things when somebody asks me is this this I don't like to rely on um my my common sense if I've learned it explicitly then okay all right let's keep moving let's keep moving this is tough stuff yeah don't worry about left and right though because just it's not Exeter Shava just because okay because left and right here means and they're different uh emotions okay all right all right where are we up to um therefore you with me yes okay Kim this level the level of Bria is the dwelling place of the sadikims nishamas is love and awe that come from Bina and Das of the greatness of Hashem and as explained before this level of Love is called rusa de liba it's a level of love that specifically comes from intellectual appreciation and that is what the Sadiq have and that's why they hang out in brioche because Bria is an intellectual world um and from this from this love this intellectually born love that they have they create a garment for the soul in the world of sugar which is the higher Ghanaian there's a guy named so when these nishamas finish up after 120 and they get up to Ghanaian which is Bria they say here's your wardrobe that you made here's your clothes that you made all yurusa the liba these are levusim now that you get to wear in gun Aiden commercials yeah The Higher One ah hello all right this is a very very technical line here we're speaking specifically about the level that is specifically technically properly referred to as nashama because there are other yeah they're different levels of the soul and we've been pretty sloppy about it so far because it hasn't made a lot of practical differences this is the way I explain it you know kabbalah is like math and so this is like engineering so sometimes for engineering purposes we don't have to get so exact with the math as long as the bridge will stay out stay up right like okay so now here's a little bit of a kabbalistic thing don't get too nervous okay we're talking about specifically the level called nishamas which are themselves intellectual you know the different levels specifically corresponds to intellect the level of the tadikim the level of their soul which is ruach ruach corresponds to emotion is and also all the other Jews who are not sadikim who are generally serving Hashem with instinctive loving of God is foreign through the column the pipeline between the Lower Granite and the higher ground which takes them up to the higher grounded which is where they can have Delight in the ray of the shrina because it created intellect only enjoys that which it understands if you don't understand it you don't enjoy it Masha actually meaning only that which it can understand about the infinite through understanding hashem's which are shining there in Bria so what we're talking about is you have these nishamas of tadiq and we're saying the shamas we need really nishamas meaning nishamas is opposed to ruach and they serve Hashem intellectually meaning they think about the greatness of Hashem to create love and all of Hashem and then commensurately they are rewarded on the in in the world of Brio which is an intellectual world and basically what happens there what's the reward the reward is the pleasure of understanding Hashem as much as can be understood as opposed to what when you serve Hashem with your natural instinctive Jewish feelings for Hashem and that would only go up to the level of yitzira which is well you know it's always Shabbos get to go up to Bria we have an Aliyah yeah regular nisham is good to go up uh [Music] yeah okay it's starting to get very technical but let's just make let's keep it very simple okay that Sadiq him get rewarded in Bria because the way they serve the Shem was with love and all that came from from their intellect and be is a world where hashem's intellect shines regular Jews generally are serving Hashem with their love and avashham that comes instinctively and so they get rewarded in yitzira which is a world where hashem's emotions shine yeah whatever attached to Exotic then you get the best of everything that's the breath over in me uh you know that's true there you go yeah yeah okay and and so do we go on if that's how you take it then yes yes very good okay so you do you want it to take eight and a half years to finish because I can talk about this we could yeah we could surf cheese and crackers drink wine we could take eight and a half years to go through Tanya okay all right I'm sorry I want to keep I want to keep especially especially because I know these chapters are super technical and by the way wouldn't you feel bad for someone who has never come to this class before and this will be their first time no okay all right so let's keep moving so okay Aiden finally you mean because it's a high one and a low one you wonder if there's a middle one yeah like that's where Goldilocks is yeah no I don't know I you know Goldilocks a little this one is just right this one's two this this one's to that this one's just dry okay yeah okay yeah yeah yeah yeah Reverend not Leah yeah oh my goodness I don't know it's a very long chapter nine years yeah okay let's keep moving okay um [Music] and this that these nishamas Merit to Ascend higher than angels with natural love and awe we just said that from time to time the even the regular neshams get to go up to Brio well hold on a second it means they get to surpass the angels because the angels are in Islam Hayes are in yitzira generic angels are utsira because they are emotional beings instinctive creatures and so too most of us are serving Hashem with instinctive love and awe but yet we get to go up the pipeline to Bria and we're going higher than those angels how is that possible how's that fair I know is because when they were in this world when they were in their bodies they would use their love and awe to subjugate the Citra the other side that is in their body remember the angels are and they're completely spiritual so they're not uh hindered by physicality but the nishamas when they're in the body yeah they have what to overcome they have that challenge of embodiment whether it was to go away from Evil and to break their desires or whether it was to push themselves to do something good so they were pushing against some resistance and because of that even though they are instinctive but they're being instinctive in a way that's more challenged and therefore ultimately reaches to a higher level yeah and the souls in bodies are agents of free choice to choose to choose evil God forbid and when they subjugate that negativity they cause the glory of God to rise up through the world in a manner of the advantage of light that comes out of Darkness okay so that explains why the nishamas that are not Sadiq in the shamas that are serving Hashem with instinctive love and all why they are able to ultimately surpass the Angels who are also serving Hashem with instinctive love and all because the Angels aren't doing that in us in a context of any resistance or challenge we didn't get there yet I said that if they choose good the capital of to subjugate the other side the stalker you cut it and it causes the glory of God to rise up glory of God like the advantage of light that comes from dark okay we overcame yeah yeah you know we're only talking about the The Souls of non-sidaikum right now because the souls of tadiq we understand why they belong in Bria because their love and all of God was intellectually generated so it makes sense that they get rewarded in an intellectual world in the world of Bria now we're explaining why regular souls should ever go up to Bria even once in a while on Shabbos 38 that the light was from Covina so this is colada right right yes correct yeah we're still on the same theme yeah saying that they have that struggle take away that instinctive like the fact that they have that struggle magnifies the value of the spiritual energy that they're putting out meaning it may be categorically the same spiritual energy the angels have meaning it's instinctive loving of God but contextually it's different because the ones that the nishamas are are putting out has to go through this resistance of a body so it takes on greater value and lifts their reward to a higher world that's that's a wonderful question yeah so then it should go even yeah I'll just repeat what yeah yeah you should go even higher than at Sonic because it's also doesn't have resistance yeah so I believe the answer is that at the end of the day even though that Sadiq is it Sadiq they still had to do their Sadiq mission in a body it wasn't like an angel who got to do the whole thing in a ethereal State okay okay let's keep going a call let's see how far we can get mother in the show we're talking about the level where the nishamas Hang Out literally where they stand however their Torah and their Aveda what's the difference you're talking about the nishamas themselves as entities and then we're talking about their output their Toyota and their Avida what they what they accomplished so you have the nishama as an entity unto itself and then you have the creative output of the nashama what the nashama was able to accomplish so now let's talk about Terrace become absorbed within the tenspheres of those worlds as opposed to the nashamas which are observers in those worlds they're not one with those worlds they are inhabiting those worlds but their Toyota and Aveda actually becomes part and parcel of the fabric of those worlds which are godliness itself where the infinite light is completely won Virginia and categorically what are we talking about that the level of when when they serve Hashem with intellectual love and all then their Tire renovator becomes one with the the sphere is of Bria I mean they serve Hashem with instinctive love and all then they're telling innovator become one with the with the spirits of yitzira um and within themes within the Spheres of Bria or even within the spirits of yitzira for that matter is invested the which is utterly one with Hashem is are totally one with the emanator himself the infinite one may he be blessed okay so we're distinguishing between where the nishamas hang out after they're being rewarded the nishamas as consciousness so they are observing they are inhabiting those spiritual Realms they don't become on one with the scenery they observe the scenery that's pleasurable for them but then their Torah and Avada that they put out those actually become absorbed within the islamice themselves and become one with the godliness either either both levels but depending on which level of service we're talking about then we're talking about a different world yeah yeah is not accessible yeah we haven't said that yeah we haven't talked about any way of getting to that level so yeah you just spoke Jessica yes because we said that ultimately the sphere is are like those little Russian dolls right right there you go okay [Music] themselves don't become one with the spirits of the four worlds rather they stand there hanging out either in Brio or utsira respectively depending on how they serve the shed in this world and there in the in the in Ghanaian whichever level they pertain to they take Delight in the ray of the shrina who is which is the infinite light which is one with the spheroes of the respective World which they're inhabiting and what is this light of the shrina that they're basking in it is the light of their own Torah and Aveda in other words they are getting to see the effect that they had so the pleasure that they have is basically they go to the vacation home that they built through their Toyota and Aveda while they were in this world because the reward of a Mitzvah is the Mitzvah itself you follow the reward of emits was the Mitzvah itself so every time that the souls and bodies down here whenever they serve Hashem through learning doing mitzvahs so they are creating um their own reward their own intrinsic reward and then when after 120 years when they go up there they bask in the light of that which they made okay the next word next two words is the island silos and he's going to start talk about it silos um I don't think we're going to get into that I don't think we're going to start that I think it's a great place to pause so let's just tie this all together make sure we understand what's going on okay okay just just tie this all together okay someone give me a pen so I can Mark what we got up to thank you and I just want to explain okay here's here's all we need to here's all we need to know okay here's what we need to know I'm going to ask you a question you should this is like on the SAT as long as you write your name correctly you get 200 points okay what chapter are we learning everyone gets at least 200 points okay 39. what book is this from oh you guys are doing wonderful okay and what's the main topic in these chapters have on okay fine so today what do we what do we learn we learned there are two different types of cavana in fact we learned that in the end of chapter 38 there are two different types of kavana there kavana is loving all but where do those love and awe come from either they can come from meditating on God which means they're intellectually generated or they can come from your native emotions just the fact this is how you're you're hardwired we said that Angels generally speaking are all that second type they're emotional that's why they're called highest which means animals and that's why they generally belong in yitziro which is an emotional world with Jews there are different types that Sadiq him they serve Hashem with intellectually generated love and all so their reward is in Bria which is an intellectual word what does it mean it's an intellectual world it's a world where hashem's intellect shines in a revealed way what does it mean well it means that if you were to go to Bria what would you perceive what would be the reality up there what would be your conscious experience it would be hashem's intellect you say well what does that mean so all the Deep Mysteries of the universe and Beyond would be clear to you and that would be profoundly pleasurable yes yeah when we learn to see this when we learn to see this we got that yeah but in in Bria that's what it is all the time that's what it is that's what the world is and that's called Gane the higher grenade but if you serve Hashem with your regular love and awe meaning the fact that it's hardwired in your neshama you inherited it as a spiritual descendant of the Patriarchs then that's only going to take you up to yitzudo but even if you only get up to yitzira and uh Shabbos they give you a special Hall Pass and you get up to you why why should you surpass the Angels because you overcame a challenge and the angels didn't have to overcome you had a body and then we said you should understand that the nishamas go and hang out either in Bria or utsira respectively but their output the Torah and the Avida that they do doesn't hang out in utsira orburia respectively it becomes part and parcel of the world so basically when you go there and it's like you go to a Art Gallery of Art that you made so there's the nishamas like the guy going to the art gallery but he's the artist and the art on the walls that's part of the the gallery itself though that's his Toyota entire that he did and that's what the scar mits for Mitzvah means the reward that he's getting is the pleasure of basking in this environment that he himself created following what we're saying okay is it temporary it's temporary until there's a resurrection and then all those Souls come back to their bodies in the physical world Resurrection I think so well we spoke about it we spoke about it in uh in chapter 37. it wasn't we spoke about Chris Mason and we said that our physical actions our Mitzvahs create ultimately culminate in creating the the world of chaos Mason where the physical world is so refined that it's holier than any heaven right to the pleasure of being the tour and it's just is that also part of the do you remember no that's not a debit no no no that's that's uh that's reward in the afterlife okay yeah now you're you're you're on to something because you're you're sensing and this this is this is a good place to be right now you're you're wondering tell me if I'm right you're one you're sitting here and be like okay he's talking about chapter 39 the levels of heavenly afterlife reward and I and and you're thinking yourself yeah but at the end of the day how what does that matter like what's tell me that Indian terms is that what you're saying basically like translate this into terms of this world yes yeah it sounds a little bit like we shifted like we were making a difference now it sounds like we're making an afterlife for ourselves and we'll go up to heaven get rewarded it's like Henny Youngman said that my wife and I went to marriage therapist and said you have to go out twice a week to uh have a romantic dinner so that's yeah I go Monday she goes Wednesdays right so Hashem will be down there we'll we'll go up there never the twin shall meet okay so yeah you ask you're asking good you're asking good that's why I said when the Resurrection comes will have taken place and those nishamas are going to empty out from Heaven why would they hang out in heaven when God is down here ah okay now you're asking very good and this is why these nishamas um okay this is why when we talk about the nashamas with the level that they go to why this really matters remember I said that kavana is also important not just action but it's not important for a different reason than why action is important it's important for the same reason why action is important remember we spoke about the idea you could create a bit of a talk to them through your actions but it doesn't have enough cavana and therefore it'll be a dark dwelling we want to make it a bright dwelling when Michelle comes so here's here's the deal how do you know how can I quantify how bright the deity was going to be that is commensurate to the level to which my Toyota and Aveda are able to reach in the spiritual worlds which is dependent on kavana so basically what I'm saying is with a kavana of a higher level I'm reaching a higher world but that's not the end of the story the end of the story is and therefore when that light is ultimately revealed in this world with the derivative it'll be a higher light that's why all this stuff matters because ultimately we're talking about not the end of the story isn't you go to heaven and you hang out there forever whether it's Bria or it's yusira the end of the story is what level of light is going to be revealed down here that's why it matters no that happens after comes so okay basically during this life you get nothing we have a virtual we have a virtual assistant I don't know no not really then after 120 you get the spiritual reward not really it's a it's a it's a bank account it's a bank account it's a bank account so in this world you just serve you don't worry about there's no reward in this world okay then after 120 over there is no stop stop it just serve just work we don't have time for reward you don't check your portfolio just keep keep working okay so after 120 then the souls go up to heaven whether it's utero or it's depending on the level of cavana they had but that's not the end of the story the real point of it all is and then after mashiach comes when the souls come back to the titanium down here how brightly lit will that be that's going to depend on where you deposited your Toyota Nevada whether in Bria or in utsira right so that's why just focus on the work right now not on weekends they they appreciate it we don't appreciate anything but we we can we can do it wait hold on hold on one second I just I just want to make sure one thing's understood then I want to finish okay does everybody understand one thing one thing no okay Sky Mississippi okay one thing I just want you to understand do you understand what difference it makes whether the mitzvahs go up to this world or to that world what difference does it make the revelation after that's what I no it's not personal right okay so one more point in Ghanaian in the afterlife that's personal because it's only who whoever earned it will be able to get that level but when it's revealed as a Dirham down here it's objective it's for everyone in fact even the animals will see it in the willful eye with the lamb and all that stuff oh wow yes okay okay okay so let's finish okay we're finished we're finished okay finished