Stains On Shabbos - Which May be Cleaned? - Rabbi Yakov Zev Smith

I'd like to welcome everyone to today's share from sh stains and Shas which may be clean sponsoring call 718 85186 51 email.com El a while ago I was by a convention for shabas and the way had did me a favor he opened up the grape juice who was and I spilled all over my shirt and my shirt looked more like a map than a shirt and I had to speak twice that shabas so I decided at least um I'm going to do something for the we after we you know if we survive that chabas to learn that the this Su of stains on chabis which comes up very often if someone's hat fell down someone's jacket fell down food fell on his clothing and there's many different scenarios I should mention we just had shabas and going into shabas can you clean your shoes if you sho if you walked into dirt pardon me the streets full of Cl what you do with that onab we have a pabas will talk about brushing off crumbs in a few minutes before this man which is question of of Kus lion so really what we have to try to clarify is as we try to do always to reduce it to one one or two simple questions the the r of lion in the Mish was with water but how about if there's no water you let see a person brushes off his dandruff or brushes off crumbs or brushes off dust from he's not using water would that make it more M and the second question is let's say a person has a pretty nasty stain in his hat and he just takes off part of it so you can't say it's clean but then again he did do Aus he cleaned part of the stain so as we'll see it's probably connected in a certain way but like we always do we have to look to the source what is the of Mal so that the says that b basically they had to cut the wool from the Sheep to make Theus now we think you know you cut off wool and you make Aras but the wool is so dirty don't forget the animals M live in the mud that you have to wash it out very very well to get out any of the impurities to make it from pretty much black if you remember when you go to the zoo you see the animals running around they're all dirty so there are actually three parts of Mal and each is the first step in laundering is you take the dirty laundry and you soak it in water it's water or certainly if you have cleansers that's now we gave a share about a different time but basically merely adding water to a stain is of Kus Kus is a tolda of malab what's the very POS because the stain has set in when you add when you put a stain in clothing or you add water to the stain it loosens the stain and the stain comes out so that's soaking a dirty baget in water the second stage is Shi rubbing scrubbing like alabas they went to the river they soaked the water they soaked the laundry in the river and they scrubbed it rubbed it to get out the stain that in itself is the third part of it the final finishing touches is what's called not squeezing grapes if you have a a garment that's wet and you ring it out so you'll see often this dirty water comes out why is the water dirty not the water is dirty but the water that goes into the Garment you squeeze out the water that takes out the the the dirt and it's interesting you look at the the water of today it uses the same three stages the soak cycle that's the agitating cycle that does the scrubbing and then the spin cycle is the that gets out the water it's not a dryer but the water in a dirty garment becomes dirty and get it out and you have a clean garment so these are the three parts and each one is I'll give you a perfect example someone gets caught in the rain and his suit is wet shaking out the suit is is is a is because when you shake out the water it takes out the dirt so now after this brief introduction it's pretty logical to say that Malin is only sh with water after all all three parts use the water the shria is definitely water the scrubbing usually when there's water it comes out easy and definitely part is only with water but we we don't just speculate let us learn one of the biggest for today that's scary is the worst thing a person could do looks saying what's got to B it t does not mean it Any Garment what's wrong with shaking out a garment so Rashi says because you have offer you have dirt or dust and that's is the same idea so Rashi is saying clearly shaking out a garment without any water shaking off the dust or the dirt is that's however says no means you left it out overnight the to do settled on it now it's wet and that's why cuz you're using the the do water so it's a form of and then he said but Rashi says shaking off so our question is without water is how do we good question so says if you shake out your Talis will soon explain a new Talis that's dark is dark from the tal is because that's considered cleaning the baged the also adds that not onlyis but any a that fell into water or you got caught in the rain don't shake out the bed that would be so and so father seem to talk only about a wet garment now I want to make a point because both both mentioned two factors a new new garment is awesome and if you m on the stain because the is if someone has a St that doesn't bother him so it's not Hally dirty if it's not dirty you can't clean it but this as he says we don't know how to sh up what's people are and what's new so he seems to say we treat every stain like a potential makid even though not even though the beg is not is not new so again that's a different share to figure out what it means and we're talking about a stain that moit on the hatch fell into the dust you're you're mockit about it so according to the dust and hatch should not be a problem because it's only talking about a very mild endorsement good idea to be I don't like the says many go with Rashi and there's more than just what quotes and that's what we're going to say certainly for even that there are two ways of Leon with water and without water shaking it out gets out gets off the dust and that's also now before we apply there's another we have to learn that will give us very clear guidance into the rest of the the says in six blot early so I'm going to use my tie which doesn't have a stain but imagine it does so let's say you have a mud or a hardened piece of chant that fell on someone's garment so now it's sitting right here stuck on so there are two ways to get off the stage the right way would do is you invert the B like this and you rub it on the stain itself just like again just like d Babas did they rub the stain like this on the stain so you're getting the abrasion of rubbing gets off the stain that is called and that's awesome you're taking the outside of the Garment and you're rubbing one on the other but same gar but if you do it like this and the stain is on the top and you rub it from inside but not on the stain itself you go back and forth that's mut now of course it's mut what are you gaining so Rashi explains Rashi is Rashi is here and Rashi is also in but Rashi explains that the msas is when the when the St when the food or or the mud hardened it looks very uh unpleasant so you shake it you rub it from inside that loosens the grip of the mud or the food on the on the on the on the Garment and then it falls off but and here's why it's m because the stain the actual stain that's embedded in the very fabric did not come out so that's rash if you rub it the stain on itself so you get off the outer surface and also what's inside that's real real Li but if you just invert it and go up and down to loosen the grip of the of the mud food Etc but the stain remains so you're okay so what's What's The Saying A Very P because really what's above the surface is not really in the Garment it's like you know someone's by by an off roof and they throw a pickle and it lands on his hat so taking it off is not Lian why cuz it's not it's not in the fabric so here the is that you're not really doing a whatever you get off above the surface was not really a problem it just stuck on but the stain itself you didn't treat the stain remains that's why it's m and that's rashi's but Rashi says you're right you did a but since when because you're not and therefore there's no problem rash should say that rash six BL later says the fish that even without water so both and he writes now for us that's a dilemma because you can't say was didn't forget what he wrote six blot earlier but then again you can't say so where do he go from here so the B says a beautiful and and he says that if you have a Talis again a beg at a hat and you shake it vigorously and the stain and the dust the dirt comes out from what's embedded in the fabric itself that's why because you got out the dirt Kus is getting out the dirt why do you have to have water I you put water on you might make it worse not use water if you have a carpet one of these carpets out you shake it out you don't need water you shake it out well bang it and the dirt comes out so it's embedded in the fabric and you made it clean but this case really the only taking what's above the actual Fabric and that's not really in the fabric that's not the whole Isa of malaban is because the wool was dirty in fact I once saw that after they wash it it weighs 50% less 50% of the of the fleece the wool isus and that's all in the wool so you're talking about a major operation to get out what's embedded in the in the wool but Rashi hold but this case what's in the F the fabric you're leaving what's above doesn't really bother us and that's rash so Rashi is holding yes that without water now T does not seem to convinced and certainly there's no going to but shaking out a dirty garment that has dust embedded in the fabric according to Rashi is now now we understand both of our questions is water an absolute necessity the answer is absolutely not we passing like the and like M says it's awesome if I just do part of the stain I leave some of the stain that's not a heta because if you do a and you do a part of the stain it's also like doing a part of the on part of the food what I Rashi says you left the stain is M that's because when you leave the stain you didn't do isus when you took from above the surface that never bothered us the stain is the problem and the stain you left so Rashi that saying if you leave a stain it's m rash saying if you leave a stain in that scenario you didn't do so what's the problem so here we have be a beautiful sug and again if someone has a jacket and he rubs off pot and of the stain that's in the Garment that's a problem he's doing the only is if you leave the stain and you never did a real that in fact would be to apply this let's start with a common someone gets a wine stain stain especially very concerned they might set in so unfortunately to add water to that stain could be without rubbing that so even without adding without scrubbing adding water to a stain that's theor that's the of someone had a chant Bean that's stuck onto his Co onto his um couch and there's no plastic so this is the second if he flicks the bean off with his finger or takes it off even with a knife but doesn't go into the actual F actual Fab fabric itself that's thear in fact thear that's that that that we spoke and K Mal says take off the mod you could even use a back the blunt part of the knife as long as you leave the stain where it is that is okay let me ask you a question which introduces us to a big part of tonight of today's sug this year remind you is so you have to have two sudas in the morning and a few minutes later is going to be P now after you finish youra it's t enough as it is you notice you have crumbs on your jacket on your clothing cuz you ate now could you clean it off so you know if you go into the house with crumbs you'll be sent straight to Siberia that's for sure so you got to get it off but let me tell you crumbs on a garment before is really dirty it's something you really you really mock bit on is it what have brushed it off of course I'm talking about you're brushing it or outside whatever there's no uh so it's a problem because you're but it doesn't make sense what why is it so I'll tell you there is aish God which is very easy to understand for us today and that's the he quotes the of Rashi that if you brush off dust it's but then he says something to know but let's say someone has a beg the pillow plot on him and he's full of feathers not just one or two his M he's walk he looks like a chicken walking the sh full of feathers he can't do that so you allow to clean it so he says but why but the same Rashi says you can't brush off dust what's the and there in you can't dust off garment you to take the the key is like I told you that is when it's dirty when the fabric itself is dirty there's there's dust there's dirt there's a stain but no are just sitting on the bed so even though we call it w you can't go like that he's dirty but it's not dirty and that's why it's now this is a she I know going to have R quotes to say but almost all the say and then you could be now a good mus of this case we use it the feather case one of is crumbs I saw the he says even if you have crumbs on on a sweater so it might be sticking to the sweater slightly but it's not embedded in the fire in the in the actual Fabric and brushing off crumbs is not a problem dusting a hat however is a problem because the dust is in in the actual hat itself dusting Furniture of course you shouldn't use a brush because a brush of the shouldn't be a problem because Furniture is not belay dust so it's on the surface it's like feathers dandruff is usually the sameus dff is basically sitting on the Garment not in it doesn't get embedded you know dust is finer smaller and Tak the seem to say that based on this or we could say that brushing off D is okay now it's interesting because the say what about M and all of the above feathers Dand dirt why is that so the says feathers because the feathers are going to reuse so it's not but yeah but what about dust so people do he's right you do it's okay but people do their hands so has a and he says that sometimes when you have this type of scenario it's btle to the item that it's on his Marshall is sweeping why you sweeping a you're moving so he says that it's bottle to the floor now I don't know to understand that what I think he means to say is that something should be M it has to be I use that term but it's there but Dand and dust is so negligible it doesn't have it's so unimportant you know the a garnish but he's pretty but a gra garnish is just not not he not's you're not go him but this what the Pim seem to say that maybe the dust and D is so nothing it doesn't have the best is right you should shake it but it seems also say let me be and I'll use a brush why should I touch the D for the the the old M so first of all it's not M but here you come to a becomes chro in the beginning of using a brush so it's from next question someone picks up PR picks up the who's a diaper and diaper is working but what happens some that the powder comes out and now the the proud's father grandfather's all has powder all over him or someone is pairing a Sim whatever even at home and he's cutting cake and this confectioner sugar on it that white sugar and goes on His Garment so this is a problem because this powder and confection of sugar is a much smaller size and the msus is it stays in the b in the Garment it's not just if you blow it off some comes off but some remains and this would be similar to rashi's case from the from the off from the dust and this would be a problem so this is a perfect example of Rashi so although Rashi the powder now has a this is quot that sh is a problem but the banging also gets out the embedded dust or powder in the Garment so the only real a would be which is a partial a to blow off whatever you can if you blow it gently we could assume only what only comes out is what's above the surface what's what's embedded in the Garment doesn't come out with blow unless you blow it vigorously who says that blowing typically unless a person blows with a great you know amount of but typically blowing gets off above the surface and that we said is M so the Mila is that you have let's say a white stain powder or convection or sugar blowing gets off above surface the stain remains so it's that if you get out the upper part but leave the the stain it's this now the bestes and that is before you pick up a baby on your lap or whatever hold the baby put something in between experience shows that you try to be nice to the baby and Par me either there's a problem a serious problem the the leak thing the diaper leaks so or minimally powder leaking has also a problem M says quoting before you pick up a baby make sure you're protected some the baby spits up and then you go what should we do I look terrible I'm so embarassed soting is very practical in another place he says since you can't shake out a garment make sure you put your garments in a safe place that won't fall down put your hand in a good hat rack not something that you know the fellow from the other side pushes it down the coat put the coat entirely onto the The Hanger so it doesn't fall down because if it falls down you have so and I would add my two cents when you're making a even I'm making a you're preparing food make sure that you're equipped ready that sometimes stains happen especially confectionary sugar or oily Foods so especially preparing a Sim like something people not thinking they have to look perfect the look perfect and they're preparing the Kish with all the food and then they say what do I do it's spilled I didn't know realize I opened the the thing cake and everything shot at me the sugar to wear an apron and keep the clothing clean next question is a challenging question and that is a hat got dirty the hat blew the hat blew off and it you R it started rolling B it looks like y a hat and you have to hav go to so this would be a perfect example according to so the real is to see that this hat is a beautiful shabas hat they say someone came to I think it was a you know offro shab and his hat got dirty so was a step ahead of him he says oh let me see your hat your hat is such a beautiful cover chabas hat p what isab know someone walks into second he just took a haircut or took a shave it's even more noticeable it's not right so is to take off stain that's not that's so this is the Ms and the tr's people are understanding you know we come everybody looks like they've seen better days but you know that's cover chabas you got Dan you got dirty that's acceptable but if the person says but I can't I'm embarrassed what whatever it is so we have a partial a the partial a would be to take off flick off the the dirt that stuck onto the Hat above the surface and leave leave at least the the stain the trace of the stain that's there that's in the in the Garment itself but you have to be careful says banging is already so you have to be careful to take only what's above the surface and leave the stain some someone said a story about once Raa and the hat flew off cleaned it off must be held then some says not that wasn't the casea only flicked off the dirt that was above the surface which as we learned today is so big deal but he didn't clean the Hat that's P now we'll soon see if it's a situation of it might be but I would mention now says this in makes taking go of dust right but you have the she of and the that's only T not dust so when something is Accord to so in that case we'll soon see the details with that now question someone has a sticker that's stuck onto his jacket a price T whatever it has you know today there a lot of stickers go in at homes and he sat on a stick or whatever whatever got stuck to his jacket and question number two he's he walks in the Sho Friday night and he realized there's something wrong and he realized that last week he made a dollar a dripless candle which usually drip the most and a few drops dripped onto his clothing so now he has white droppings on his on his jacket his pants whatever it is so taking off something that's stuck on whether it's a sticker or wax so pit wax is a problem see wax drips as a liquid and it lands on the bot as a liquid and definitely gets absorbed in the actual fabric and that's why the as I mention is taking off from a garment you have to be concerned about the ISA of malab it's dirty it's mid and you're taking out what's what's embedded in the fabric it's like ketchup that or any type of that type of semi solid food that sticks on the on the Garment and it dries so it it sticks on it and in it the first question is to say with with certainty but a sticker really depends you know they have today a post it which I understand they were trying to make glue a glue a strong glue that didn't work and the the the mix whatever didn't work but from there they realize that you can make a post it that goes on and off it's not very strong but it serves the purpose so poster that's stuck onto one's person on one's clothing is not a problem but a sticker that when you take it off the fabric the fibers come off with it so that's embedded I can't imagine that should be M but if you have a potit or something like that or sticker that comes right off so even though it's stuck on you say oh that's a problem it's not true if just the above surface comes off but the fabric itself is unaffected and it was never staying in the first place that should be m gum or Taffy or candies or the like in a carpet so although as we'll soon see on a wooden floor floor there is no Kus because nothing gets into the fabric there is no fabric but a carpeting does have fabric so here we have to realize that if the food the gum whatever it is is stuck again in the actual fabric of the carpeting that's a problem if it just it just landed above it and you can pick it off and no stain ever developed that's fine but again taking a something that's stuck on and pulling it off is a form of keos because a garment is a bed gum I'm sorry a carpet is a bed G that's why the truth is I should mention even sweeping a carpet if there's dirt in the fibers itself or in between the the the the different pieces of this of the carpeting should be a problem even we don't use a carpet sweeper because that's of the but any type of cleaning a carpet that's really the dirt is in the actual carpet itself that should be problem of of Kus and that should be like something that's invol that's embedded in the actual fabric of the of the carpet and that's a problem if gum or again Taff stuck onto a wooden floor Orum so because it's not in the actual fiber itself itself it's on top of it next question God was was would have been a g if yesterday last night would have been shabas let's say you have a snowfall and you're coming to Sho people look at you like why are you coming to Sho you have an inch of snow on your hat so the question is can you shake out the hat and get off the snow so until today we would say what's the problem what's the WR with turning off my hat and shaking out snow what's wrong but today we realize that that might be a gor but this is not like crumbs or like a feather this is a real Isa beged that even agrees because the that snow when you come into a building that's much warmer than outside starts to melt so now shaking go off the hat it's not an innocent action of shaking go off the hat it might be and I should mention the a shabas he says and Sh is not dust so he equates right away snow with t that's says it everybody says it's says it is T even though there's a small amount but snow snow is like rain everybody agrees from from from wet rain the rash even dust but that's why it's it shaking out the hat that the snow started to melt could be now the only thing is if you know we are hard to say we could be matam but let's say someone I'll give youd maybe it could be matsum someone is walking Outdoors within an A so this snow on accumulation his hat so he stops and he shakes off the snow see in that case since you never went indoors so you could assume that the cold weather keeps the snow as it is so if you could say that the snow did not begin to melt so then the snow on the hat is like crumbs or like a peckel that landed on your hat you're not going to say it's Kus so shaking off the snow is okay and Tak in the beginning of says that if the snow is you know the snow did not begin to melt so it's like feathers but coming in you have to be very careful that the only had should be in the building when it did not even begin to melt that would be taka that's the beginning of sim now it's after a rain shaking out a garment person got caught in rain with a suit and he wants to shake it off so that is a real problem of rain is the worst that that even the is the rain's a problem now what you do is you take off this the clothing and hang it up in a nice place you got to be careful don't hang gments the place where you leave garments are dry after you washed because that would be a question of but basically shaking out a garment if you're wearing a plastic rain coat shaking that out it's fine because that's not Bay now the oldfashioned rain coats they call was really a material that had a rain rain repellent part to it that could be was have to know the M but to raise plastic a sheet of plastic plastic is not should not be a problem now I'm going to share with you a sh that you see the the couldn't imagine such today is but listen to this let's say a person is wearing glasses now we call it glasses gr it's plastic but no real glasses plastic but he wears regular glasses and his glass got dirty and he can't see well he's very mocked but he wants to clean it he's washing his glasses any problem with that he's putting water washing his glasses no problem why not why is the keus you washing your glasses ter is better question forget about glasses what about washing plates washing dishes you allow to wash dishes why is that so we answer what's is the AR's feather case the ISA of lion begins when it's embedded in the fabric it's absorbed in the fabric that's the real Isa something that's above the surface we have crumbs we have feathers we have a lot of Michala so we have another thing that joins the club a plastic or a glass does not absorb doesn't dirt the dirt's above the surface dishes plates does not absorb there's no absorption there's no there's no Kos fine so washing glasses you could put water on the glasses and you could even dry it you know people think it's but it's not you really you're really taking the water into the Garment just make sure it's not there's not into the into the material so lot of water might be afterwards but basically you allow to wash it and even dry it as long as no taking place let's fast forward a few thousand years and in our times they have an idea why wear glasses let's get contact lenses now originally contact lenses were made from a hard plastic course it's plastic that's nonpermeable which means plastic if it's made properly does not absorb Tupperware is rubber but the same idea it just it's so strong doesn't absorb a hard plastic is like a hard piece of plastic that doesn't absorb toys are made out of plastic doesn't absorb so the with the hot the hot plastic lens is you could clean it cuz nothing get absorbed just in the outer surface you rub off with your finger take off the dirt and it's all ready to go fine but then they realize that hot plastic is not comfortable and they make now it's called the soft plastic it's from polymer that's the material the polymer the soft land is extremely hydrophilic which means it's extremely absorbent I have in front of me the the actual the facts that some of the of the soft lenses absorb up to 70% of its weight I you hear I just said it absorbs it's 70% of it is is liquid that's absorbed in the plastic now how they make it so you have to become a scientist you figure it out but that's the mius unless mic dirt gets in now not dirt from the Street see in the in the natural tears of of the eye the liquid in the eye there are proteins and lipids you have to know how it works but those things are good for the eye but not good for lens it gets in and it could ruin the lens and it could cause very serious eye irritation so that's why people that use lenses and you have to clean it constantly but in a hard lens cleaning it is no problem it's like washing dishes but come again the new soft lenses that 70% of it is absorption that means when you put that means there's proteins and lipid the dirt gets in and that's why it gets gets dirty gets ruined so now we have believe it or not that not only to rub this soft lens but put it into a a liquid cleanser see they have two types of solutions those used lenses the say line that just keeps it moist it shouldn't dry and then there's one that's a cleanser it cleanses so not only you can't rub the because you're cleaning it but putting it into the cleanser is what's that you don't have to rub it you could but the is you're putting it into the cleanser so you'll tell someone you learn today that soft lenses is a but it's true it's it's and that's the that everything says someplace we have to know where to find it now the em we're not doing today the sug of plastic and rubber and and and plastic scrubs and plastic sponges which is a big sug plastic table clothes because it for itself so we get there are some that are M but definitely the the back of has a long discussion and they all feel that putting lens simply putting it into this cleanser could be a contemporary example of and the say it's p like that the only SW to make maybe is a k it's washing is it regular dirt it's really some sort of it's not actual dirt so we'll leave that for now but definitely we're going to say that taka use the the simple moisturi that keeps it moist but avoid definitely avoid the cleanser now a person that has a a a stain so obviously as we said taking it out is definitely a problem the question is when a person has food that's stuck onto his clothing or mude you're walking in the mountains even during the summer you have to have snow forget even during the rain and there's mud or dirt on one's clothing so here we learned this earlier but I want to clarify this that just the fact that there's no stains the stain remains is not enough of the heta the het is take what's above the surface again flick it off even take a Shar thing and lift off the above surface but don't actually treat the stain what's in bedded should be lefted that is the problem of lion so if you take off the made part of the problem and you leave the stain it's like taking off a feather from clothing I will say but the truth is a feather is not attached at all and this mud food stain is attached okay so therefore what but as long as the stain remains now here is is we have an interesting that you to peel it off so some understand and seems and seems to say this that IFA you just do rubbing and it ends up being clean yes but the strongly takes issue with this and he says that if you take part of the stain that's embedded in the what's the so I just want to mention T does have a Biga but like not like the seems to be M like the T but leaving the stain and taking off the above surface is the now adding water in any situation even if you don't scrub it that is the now peeling off would be any that you're not using abrasion you're not making sh so again it could be flicking off it could be blowing off certainly blowing off a item is never going to take off the stain that's the Matas now someone once asked me he had a food stuck on and he blew it off and he looked Clos he was no stain so he thought maybe he has to bring a he did no no if you blew it off and it came off there would never stain some you can have something sitting on the it it's just like it's like a feather so if you blew it off it's Gan and nothing stain ever set in in the first place question mud it's a common case in the mountains or Muny L when you live in muddy areas winter and summer and there's mud on your on on person's clothing so assuming he takes a he does it carefully he just takes off the above surface but here in Z says an interesting factor to consider he says okay you're avoiding the Leon issue but when you cause the mud the Harden mud to crun that's if you take off a piece of moist it's fine but if it dried so is saying that even if there's no now the assumption is even the food that Harden on the Garment is a problem of but to make okay fine it's still and so the only eight would be peel it off carefully as one piece and it went on and hard piece of mud or a piece of a pee Ching Bean you sat a chen bean and it's all squashed on the clothing so now it Harden dried so take it off as one piece but don't crumble it if you crumble it that would be t now the big on this is that if it's a food that was already of and even hardened dirt was also it started out of Earth then the the rain caused it to become dirt pieces then it Harden and go so all the on why is it even if it is that so first of all some hold some say that is only a rule by food not by but itself is a problem but probably the most understandable is a means you made flow and now you made so the the grinding of the flower is still effective cuz you see you have delicious but if it became back to where it started the the the dirt became hardened mud mud became dirt it's now it's a solid so the original is no longer there no longer recognizable but at the end of the day the did say a a pretty mild that you should be for so that's why the say a person should avoid making it you know it's going to crumble don't do it try to peel it off if you trying and it wasn't a and it happened inadvertently so a on a yes you could feel okay of course they ask to take that off because really it's only of even though ain't should be now a situation where we have a stain that is a nasty stain and what do you do is there any so the have bre ples were astonishing it was from the in in his country and typically he had the but here he takes interesting stance and he says can you can you have a take off something that's a problem that's stuck on so he says even for he even maybe and then he discusses at length the that I mentioned briefly but then he says others to be M but then he says at the end of all this after he says a number of to be make about not to even ask a to remove the stain but if someone has a removing the stain you don't have to marish he says you have to marish on him but if someone else does it there a so let him have a but the was very skeptical to have a go remove a stain now the EM is why maybe because is always very much abused one the respond and the question was have a a move which is a typical so the response is and I quote this of in other words don't play around with even though you have to realize why because that's very much abused someone told me a told me that people think that not just the it's a way of life you have a and everything is and is there remind us maybe that's the he took this strong stance not because of the per but it's the general attit but I must tell you and equally important also has the following a very brief CH but it's it's astonishing he says and this goes back in his time there were no lights and someone and he came out with so on his K so what does he do he has to dve with a K but he he can he can't even dve him with such a kg about dirty he can't dve with it he can have a guy wash the K because it's here he is without a k what happened so he says you can have a go wash out the K now to me this is astonishing he doesn't spell it out but how's the guy going to wash a k he's not going to do he's going to wash it with water but apparently he held the what's in this case so could be see the the stresses in other words you look funny okay but the trth is shabas a hat that's dirty is not funny is a beautiful shabas hat but I tell you the that K if he feels so self-conscious so you have to be careful I mean is a very very powerful factor is a the so Sim he says if someone has a stain dust going to to have if someone's embarrassed and embarrassed to go like that maybe you could be make even because perhaps he's been on as opposed to rash okay now also on the goes I don't stand the more you are the worse it is not the better it is okay so I wouldn't be for but is a very important factor and now let's finish a few more sh it goes into shabas so you can't clean it so the MS is believe it or not cleaning shoes is not a problem the dust on shoes not a problem or even using a little water on shoes not a problem why because leather shoes or plastic rubber shoes either material is not B that's or is not B so if is Nota you could even take a dirty leather and put it in water there's no by leather now that's part of a different sh plastic synthetic polyesters I leave that a different time but whether the shoe is leather or plastic washing it off is not a problem because again it doesn't get any of the absorbed dirt is very little to absorb dirt now the only thing is that the say sh you're allowed to put water on a shoe or put shoe in water but don't be MF shap don't rub it cuz maybe there's a slight B so you're getting out some B but technically there's no Isa of Kos by washing off leather or putting it in water so if someone wants if he thinks it's a good idea put the shoe in water no that's based on what I should mention is to use a brush to get off the dirt where this is much more and a very pressing way is in our city streets that's populated overpopulated by dogs and there's dogs excrement in the streets and someone stepped into the wrong place what does he do with his shoes the he can't go on the shoe so it's a very simple as take the shoe go down no one's looking downstairs the basement M for there whatever and wash off the shoe until the dirt comes off if it need be you could take a paper towel whatever as long as it doesn't become rubbing vigorously Shi sh that's M so the dirt in a plastic or a or a leather shoe is not a problem and certainly rubbers or boots they're all either either plastic or rubbers even more of more M from the so that shouldn't be a problem so basically there are materials like wood plastic rubber that wiping it putting water it's okay that's why wiping a plastic table it's okay rubbing it vigorously is a problem let me share with you an interesting someone asked me to sha and he didn't know how good he asked okay he had a Bena one of these PL the laminated plastic benches and obviously last week somehow some type of food got stuck in and now it's mama is stuck on to the words of benching and he can't see the lettering so the question is can he take off this the hardened food from the bench it's a it's a lated plastic bench so I said wow that's a beautiful sh I'll tell you what I don't think you he was worried about liun which isn't the problem because since it's a it's laminated it's sticking it's like it's like a stain it's like a plast a piece of gum on a floor a wooden floor that's not a problem plastic is like leather at least but the problem is there's a different gimmel says the following if there's a blotch of ink or sh wax that's blocking lettering from so removing that blotched ink or that wax even is because you're taking off a stain call why and it's cuz now when you take off that hard that that that wax or the ink you could see the lettering so the reiterates this taking off something stuck on to lettering is now it's interesting why you call you're not erasing because the is erasing is erasing lettering it's erasing something that's obstructing so taking off that piece of food would not be a problem it could be and if it's not laminated taking off that piece of food could be a problem of of lean but also by tearing the lettering is a form of but on a plastic thing if Tak you can't read it as it is that be I couldn't talk to you same here against like be for today fore we learned today we learned that basically that the is of of Li ofas comes in different forms even without water and even merely adding water to an item is already squeezing out a wet item that brings out the dirt is the ISA of rubbing is an is itself of sh that's the ISA of Kus shaking off dust or any item that's embedded in the Garment according to rash and that's what we shaking out water snow rain from that's absorbed in a garment is also for itself that that all agree a food mud that's on a garment taking off the above surface and leaving the stain is not a at all not because it's still dirty but you didn't do at all taking a um invert hting the baged and basically the food falls off but the stain remains is really a gor and that's why that would be M even without fully cleaning a stain by treating it partially or certainly adding water to a stain is Ana the only is if you didn't do a in the first place a water stain a water adding water again leave the stain after the shabas will come out but something that's above the surface like feathers crumbs dandruff typically is above the surface that's not a problem of lion in the first place a hat that's dirty the real the real approach is it's a it's a cover chabus hat leave it people understand but if there's a there those that are hat brush should not be used even if there's no is of of lion because that's of the baby powder confectioner sugar is a problem because it gets into the fabric it's like dust there are three eights to avoid the shus put your hat in a safe place take something in between you and the child and of course when you're making this pring food make sure that that it won't make the garments dirty don't rely on the put on an apron if need be but stay away from potential problems blowing off dust of a hat should be sticker or a wax that's stuck on and taking part of the fiber is a problem of libun gum and Taffy on a carpet is a problem on a table on any flat surface is fine shaking of snow that started to melt should be considered like very serious is plastic me or any plastic hat covering is okay soft contacts you should definitely be careful to use only the moisturizer food the problem of is an interesting problem but the say should be for that even though if it's a real a person have we rely on a shoe or dust shoe that has dust or dirt or excrement this is not a problem because there's no unless a person rubs vigorously it's excuse me okay but how you explain that I