03-07-2013 STAR-K Discusses Passover Products For Everyone

wait here in the stock offices in Baltimore I'm very glad that you joined us today I'm a bit spiegelberg this is a table wire thank you for coming early buyer once again I feel dinner good to have you back thank you thank you we are broadcasting on the webinar at learn kosher click webinars com forward slash coach and if you want to join us by phone I'm going to give you the phone number it's 1203 again 218 895 1203 pass code 2020 so if there's some reason you have trouble with your if your computer and you want to join by phone or your you're driving and you want to listen please feel free to use that number so today we're going to discuss various Passover products not a complete guide through your Passover shopping but just things that we thought you might find interesting including the famous kinwa story with some videos and pictures of quinoa production you may be asking what what is that rather say what skin what skin whoa okay we'll get to that and and I speak maybe 30 40 minutes and then run by Holland was our newest administrator is going to come and speak about the the introduce the star s certification which is a certification for safar them people have sporadic descent who have somewhat different rules of katras and think about rice on face off and sew on vanessa is doing development that we are supportive of and he's going to come in and think about that okay so i think we are ready to begin rabbi buyer with a little bit of okay you can see on your screen you can see the 2013 passover director that's this booklet we mentioned in the last the last class which is by the way it's archived at Koecher classes org if you missed the last one on monday young medications you can listen to it go to coach to class and org and this passive directory you can get on our website you can order it okay well oh yeah the book well you'll get part of it on you can get part of it that's what I meant to say you can get part of it on our website you can get the part that deals with the comprehensive information and product guide right the medicine cosmetic but my best you can't cost you one you can't get it on our website because it's a project of the kollel of Los Angeles but we do have a new system this year besides you can also you can buy the book in the bookstore right you can get it what is it twenty nine ninety five hours on that John sale for I think 799 ssme so but you can get the the PDF I pay twenty nine nine you can get a bit EF I should go to our let me bring up that link okay I brought it up before let me see yeah I'm going to put up a link like hear anybody's interested and if anybody has any questions is it chat box here on the bottom of your left of your screen well more than happy to take your questions and comments and that is the link where you can go and order the PDF now they can order the book online too I'm sure they can some of the some of the Jewish bookstore no we won't though we will not we don't sell you don't sound so here there I know you can go to Israel bookshop or any of the other I'm sure I'm sure they're stocking you'll be in chakra then if your book shops is the one who Boston yeah but they produce there is a few Brooklyn you can get it to end on the pasta yeah you can get in the bookstore good lunch books night yeah so but the beauty of the PDF is that if you want to search the medications which is which I mean they're thousands of them and and difficult to look through so if you're looking for that's what we do here in the office in people call us just something I'll conducting if you're looking for one person you have to know where to find it was section and it's so so it's easy just type it in and that's the beauty of the PDF and that link will take you to that to that site where you can you can purchase it if I I want to bring up this it still was still in the poor mode no so I want to bring up this that way you remember that you can have a where the buses ah yes a beautiful picture they would say okay and America this is a real picture it's a picture of a gorilla eating matzah the caption that were originally from AP photo service well this isn't a stockade it's very much gear I think in this television and this is the tel aviv's Oh a few years ago where they actually feed they start to this was before Passover because they have to get the animal used to eating non comments food so we can talk maybe a little bit about about pet food further in I couldn't resist this this picture it's not staged it's really use this start ask food I mean you can do with everyone and he could eat the star s also a nationality allowed to own rice and kidney in some place I just can't eat it but you could give it to a noun and if you want if you want to do that okay let's go back to the 2d this picture here you pass over directory yes so okay josh is asking i would like to know if you have the Passover book on PDF okay we just put that up talk about that yeah it should be on your screen only if you can bring up that link again can maybe Josh can't see it we do have it on PDF and you can get it in two in two ways with with thee without the medicines is free with the medicines is I think seven dollars uh so let's let's get started with some of the some of the products that come our way so this is interesting I admire this is a guitar pick yes it's from some of it huh you read what it says on there uh it says wheat we're calm right we're calm they make picks out of wheat and and the reason for that is they want to sustain the ecology right you take the other one throwing it edible well if you're hungry guitarist no no it's just that you don't have it you agree it's a green pick a green green pic so that it doesn't waste anything you need another base Orion right instead of plastic they use wheat so the question that came up was presented to us is this okay to have to use on pace off if you have to sell your music not be playing guitar even if you're not playing it monday i'm giving it if you just leaving it in do you have to sell it with your comics that was the question that came up i believe we answered that it's not it's not a food it's not a bowl it's not meant to be a food and it's really fine to have that in case you can't happen to have one one case you happen to have that a long run but a lot of things being made out of the week or at a corn nowadays what's that okay really rylar saying that they make that we'd pick in less than 18 minutes so it's no problem well it's a it wouldn't be a problem even more than anything and so that's fine really i don't think that we like to point out we must point out you have to be careful when you go shopping I was in seven mile market which is our local kosher supermarket last night I was picking out some products to show courtesy of seven mile we're going to get to those if you have time but they have an important sign on each shelf by the Passover products and that is make sure to check the product that you are picking up to make sure it's a pass over the product if that night you want right because what happens somebody was walking down the aisles and they pick up jam right and they think that it the regular aisles they think that it's a Passover gym and then they walking they say wait a second this is the pass a while and say I don't want the all year round jam I want the Passover gently put down the year-round gym and they pick up the Desilijic right the next person unwittingly comes into the best section and just sees jam and he picks up a bottle when he brings it home he's happened everybody just set me up net put them in the gym but significant right thank you so so it's a yeah it's a problem that comes up every year you have to be cheerful and you know don't just grab back we have the things off the shelf well we tried in the same vein there are times i know i don't know if this is still the case but i remember there was a product it was um bullion hughes with little square ok he was right for soup there soon and there were some that were that work her pace up their pads over and something we're not and they looked the packaging looks almost identical and the only difference was the one had a pea and one didn't so that's also you know if you have a store except a mile which is great where they separate the pace the Passover product out it's very nice but if you're you know out of town somewhere and you know they don't really do it that it's not done in that organized fashion you really have to be you know buyer beware right you have to be you have to be careful know what we try to do at the star k is to insist that the Passover production the boxes labeled record right it's not always possible sometimes the company is existed then it's it's it's not only doable we try our best to make a distinction would be a different color different something should be different you have there with your companies also yes I we get our best to do it um okay I mean soda for example there's nothing different on the subtle able except for the can you write the CAC right the cap would be with the peace and the pee on it right right exactly there is a one thing i want to show you i'm here from i'm set a mile this is this is Lieber's almond milk alternative and this is kosher for pesach it has a Passover kfp symbol on it uh-huh okay and this is something people lot of people who are allergic to milk yes they can't drink regulate menus right or for kids that came to my family we use rice not go into gear typically right okay so so on pesach uh people want to use soy milk or almond milk okay so this is the ideal almond milk that one would get because it's actually certified for pacer we have other almonds more listed in our book that are acceptable but they're not necessarily ideal because they made on equipment that's used for comments or there may be some comments in it that nullified so if a person can can get this this note will be this kind of alma mater be ideal same thing we recommend soy milks soy is by definition kidney owes its only acceptable either for spider more children right for people who need beneath it we need it right so and also may be made on comets equipment so you know this is really it we're recommending as we are you at the ideal product if you need this no substitute Arthur's saying soda usually has a yellow cap Hypatia correct is that always the case not necessarily usually it mean cop-caller has a yellow cap I don't know if all the other brands have a yellow cap The Cook's do have yellow caps they do okay yeah okay but most of the major brands will have something on the cap indicate Passover okay we're gonna have to have a P otherwise heading right how's that work right about what do they do different pad let's talk about the soda what do they do different for a pacer well the nature so right the major concern that we have a soda is the sweetener for the most part the red because they use coins here for the most part in most national nationally distributed sodas so on Passover they they all make it with sugar which makes it the cliff s over now with my new yeah I mean with the star s and then I guess the well people get a coca-cola certification on that he'll be pretty yeah it'll be okay well you have the you know the soda connoisseurs kind of sorts waiting by they wait until pass over to I to buy de coca cola with her sugar and actually other there are a lot of people now who are who are health-conscious conscience not just conscious health conscious and they will go out of the way looking for sodas which were so with sugar and not corns here because the world without concern for chair because it's like a process yeah various reasons so uh okay it's a good thing um ok so that's the soy milk soda uh interesting thing we have we have certified Passover bagels and pizza stark a certified norm gourmet it doesn't have any any sermon definitely comment to me but you know anyone's had when I was a buffer I was learning at a student in Israel a little while ago mm-hmm they had passed over pizza one of the stores I mean forget about the conscious of it just open it you knew it was Passover pizza right okay it tastes different so it's major I guess it's non good Brooks which means it's not made with any any matzo meal at all because there are people who won't eat matzo meal mix with water so they want to serve everybody to it so we have Passover bagels you could ask unbelievable you could ask a question when is it really right I know this question comes up is it really proper to eat pizza and when you're trying to get every sort of product out there that is a substitute I'm gonna pass over bagels and Passover muffin meadows to realize you know it is there an issue of trying to you know enjoy your right I think that we feel we almost don't pass are right we feel the StarCAVE feels that if it's kosher for Passover we will certify it if you want to know whether or not like theologically logically you should eat it that's not our issue has the same question but you go sure in general I mean that nowadays there's so many products that are they'll pick shrimp a shrimp right they crab whatever I I w is asking to all posting a greeting will make you lose on pacer okay we're going to get to the kid one in a few minutes let's keep going down our list here we try to point out sometimes things that don't need a taste or texture you know that people should be able to save my own eat just mention the almond milk as a possible but well the almond milk is only a only if you can't do this one right you want but I've imagined that they do not certify one its keeper yes it is cheaper but we don't recommend it that I wouldn't say that's one of the things that working all day how the heck sure let me give you an example of something that we could recommend without a head shape here we have here we have to cocos one is Hershey's cocoa and one is hot cocoa so the how dire has a pass overhead shirt while the Hershey's cocoa is usable all year it doesn't have any passover certification so we recommend the were she's as well because we've looked into it we'd not this particular brand but Coco in general that doesn't have any additives we we find that the process is like inherently kosher for Passover I don't know if we're going to make any friends at HUD are buying nothing ok but no III understand what you saying now what do you get if you buy the kosher for Passover a product what you get is that extra you get an extra level supervision in other words the Hershey's wish it's an assumption we're confident we checked into it the industry as a whole we're looking into it fine but there's a but we didn't look into that particular we didn't send anybody there to know that or any of you uncertified grant right the Pacer Passover brand has a mushy if they're looking into it at the Passover many people don't want to use items that line that don't have a super super vision because it peso and they want to be more careful so you know everybody can make their own decision you want to take the one that you assume is okay and then we accept that if you want to take the one that had the you know the special service certification you can do that obviously the long without certification keeper okay um that's an example of something it doesn't need a pat on the head sure another one is it's not a food but this is a crock pot liners but the question of the faith we this is your 40 needs it can get to have wrong after at all this is your forte doesn't we say it doesn't need a patty pain doesn't need a passover certification doesn't mean the certification during a week you know that I mean yes I know we there isn't there is a concern that that a liner of plastic has made could I will have an animal additive we animal added more than likely okay certainly nullified but it's not a Passover consumed in other words it's not a Passover Chris other words if you use the crockpot liners right all year you can use them now that I said you know we mentioned in our book I think also with just on that topic of plastic you know the plastic tablecloths that people the clear plastic throwaway responsible use during the year so on passed over there is there might be a concern that sometimes they they had as a starch that they put into the tablecloth make an order to be easier to take apart right so that's something to be aware mm-hmm okay so so the crockpot liner is not a non pass over concerns now of course the crock pot itself you'd have to use a specially special for pets has ceramic jobs in there you make comments in there and have to use a special one what you mentioned about the one about the coating on the on the plastic tablecloth the same thing applies to gloves like the latex gloves that they have sometimes a powder you have to get the powder free who right Frank look bit of powder free look you want to look for the powder free sometimes they have cornstarch yet as the powder and there's no problem you know one who's that I would add a Passover production recently and I made sure that they want to baby the glove when you're using more power to free I think they also make gloves with tapioca starch coming but anyway the way you know people ask how do you know whether or not it has powder it's a actually sale usually says will say pounder free people are allergic or they get allergic reactions on the can scale safe house you're free if it doesn't say it and you're not sure what we recommend is take the big love turn it inside out and love it on on the dark piece of clothing and if it has power you'll see it so if you're not sure let's say the label is gone you have a internet before you buy it unless you're like oh no my goldberg room no you can't you and then syrup stick a pack in the back you can't do that before you but if you have them at home and you want to know when that they're good or not so you could try that try that trick um let's see what else we have over here let's go to the box here's another Irene Calif ax this is courtesy of seven mile market in Baltimore we want to thank them well this is a priceless intercept it mmhmm yeah sun-maid raisins with a passover certification you do except those that their product i thought you know that customer to nothing oh yeah so then here here's something that we don't accept early bala yeah people might be surprised these are matzos yes brian is not except Michael will you don't do not accept these matzos per person this is something that's a surprise to most people that and actually it says on the box each other on the back on the side I'm not sure that they can see side but on the front it says kosher parve yo Shawn right special kosher then it says homicide excellent and inside it says not for Passover use comments now you ask how can master your comments and not be for Passover use that's that's that's we mentioned that briefly before that it not much has to be made within 18 minutes and if it's not if you're not careful with how you make it then it will end up being comments but that's something that people don't always realize they go to a store to pick up pick up master and they think that it's kosher certified for pacer yes and you have to look for the one that has the basic specification I just want to mention that we're here at the starkey offices I'm rabbi goldberg this is ready bonfire this pace Tough Series this is the second of the series in Passover lectures webinars the next one is going to be the same time on this coming Monday and on the Haggadah I'm the laws of the state of night when I want I frankel and then the last one will be a week from today Thursday same time at noon a primer in kashering Robin Holland is known to video a cash Ring seminar and then so we'll have to be able to see the actual how you actually go and do it not just you take a pod and what I should be able to see how you do it should be quite quite interesting if you have any questions feel free to chatting with us and we'll be glad to go on oh here's something we have a buyer I'm getting a little traffic around because that you can move them away ground almonds ground almonds what do you think of that that does require a pass over now while I that came from a Goldberg now solomon islands themselves are not pass over concern but the machinery that the omni's are made on may be used it's like a flower kind of product who knows what they they grind on the same machinery that's what we're concerned about so you need a pass over certification on that so that's only four ground almonds with regular regular and ground almonds uh uh raw unroasted almonds would be acceptable without a certification as long as it doesn't say on it that in the same factory they do comments or they do we do they do peanuts or something like that that would be that would be acceptable that's another example we we can get something without a pass over Skype education again with the passive certification you would have a higher level evidence here's full throw by Bayern table salt and the issue with the table building beside the issue with the table salt is that it it it has iodine iodine is not a passive a concern would be carrier the thing that Aaron friends you put the odd you can just put iodine at the salt it won't get mixed up with so you put it into some small amount of powder and then mix that powder with the salt Nets called the carrier the carrier is usually going to be something that is like dextrose or some some type of kidney oats and therefore you can buy salt without it passive acidification and I'm doesn't have not I non-iodized salt and and you check the ingredients and that will be fine I don't think it's a great difference in price between salts chief so let's keep any way between s over so not pass over what they do for the Passover is that they they just make sure that there's no no kidneys and no carriers a lot of problem yeah it's not the iodine per se it's a problem that's the sign that we have over here we have mayonnaise with the Passover certification at need that certainly needs permission I want to point out over here they use over here cottonseed oil cottonseed oil is a is in Israel is considered to be Kipnis they don't use it okanagan not use cottonseed oil in Israel generally but America the customers that we do not consider kitten yes and everybody is permitted to use it there was once a mayonnaise I remember that that said on the front it had a kfb a culture that social invitation on the back it had a list of all sorts of things which were not acceptable ingredients we're not acceptable for a aceves so it was a contradiction on the one hand you tell them that many times you'll find out what sometimes they don't just so lame change the label so it was a labeling problem and it wasn't a greeting actual ingredient problem they change one part of the label but not the other so that's that can happen [Music] you need marshmallows that has it passed over certifications yeah this is the junk week this certainly needs the paserva certification because of the ingredients in both the way that it produced could be quickly a problem and this needs a good certification all year let's cut your fish gelatin and and that's acceptable but the sum of the marshmallows which have questionable certification use real don't use real gelatin which is we don't consider to be right to be culture okay and the next thing I think let's talk a few minutes about about quinoa quinoa is spelled just like it sounds q UI and la jinn one I got it okay so if you choose education your pain so kidwise a is a is a see the plant that is grown in South American countries and it's becoming a grey substitute or for other types of grains it's very healthy you had one protein as it's considered to be healthy alternative and the Passover people would like to use it because it's filling they can't they don't eat rice because Rastra najin Kenny comments so they'd like to use this as a healthy alternative the question is is it kidney or not is it considered a legume which we can't go into a whole discussion about that but is it considered a leg you that Ashkenazim do not use and the short answer is and we have much more about this on our website i'll give you the you go to this address good ww but star dish okay god or born / how you spell again DUI and then they I and oh okay oh hey um oh my homies came up there are question I haven't been able to why didn't I see these questions before they didn't come up on my screen okay anyway there's the website you can see all about kinwa and I'm sorry I didn't see your questions before they weren't coming up on my screen but what will talk about the kinwa now so if you go to that side you'll see more information about it yeah so basically we rabbit Hyneman who's based on the ruling of remote refine steam that you do not create new kit new kit Neos items now against whatever was included in the custom way back that's include liver is not not included he says otherwise potatoes would also be included because you make him into a flower and making it into a bread so that should have been included also and it wasn't because it wasn't known at that time so to chin was only the past 20-30 years it's known to the general Jewish population therefore we don't we don't make a little rule to include kinwa so therefore we have certified is one of the brain just one of them there are couples only one that said mile stocks and that's why I have it this is one is club there are others it's dark a certified this one is called ancient harvest chinua and you can see on top that's kosher for Passover and all year round the box is relative otherwise the same but it does have that clear designation on top that it is kosher for Passover and all year round and it's available many kosher scores you can buy it online at their website I just have a question so do we make this with that I mean is this kosher for Passover year-round or no what happened it's not just this box when it says kosher for Passover all year long we send are going to show you some of these going around a little bit of a misnomer but let me let what the right word this box is kosher professional you will right but not everybody not everybody so right exactly let me bring up now some of the photos and video some of the videos okay let's see I'll Varma cheok in in action ok this is a own view of Bolivia where the production took place this is a quinoa plant fairly can you see the picture okay let the King want that this is a plan it's a lady or not the point where they make it no this is a heading girls that grow a vegetable vesicles and you can see them all grown up anp right music in work clothes are going bellizzi hook again here's Amish Kia right here okay hat is very hot down there and you dress appropriately this is again mushky if you can pick an outgoing wire come over with all the farmers I think is that good for that short guy and if it run affair with a little funny hat on we could have used a mosquito a female but we didn't this isn't much game over here standing over here and so we actually we didn't just say hey kick in wat from Bolivia or from wherever put into a box and say it's going to expensive no we went to the field to check out to make sure that they don't rotate the crops to Farley they don't cover in some places we've heard that they they cover they go to cut down they cut it down and they put it together add riedel fields and then they went to dry they cover it with our so us in order to keep away the birds so that would be a problem for us obviously the ball you can be comments okay so he's there from time of the actual harvesting Ruthie he was there at the time to check out the fields and to make sure that the that they use they used area King watch on field that was acceptable and also the bags can also be an issue because they could just go home and lose bags that they have at home but we made in human new bags and here you see again much gift packing of the kin wanting to the larger sacks which are also available to sail a sail you can find an information on the website people can buy at 55 in my bag and like divided up there they can get an idea that something that they can do and here's one of the workers bagging the quinoa and this that's all this plumbing code because this kinwa and that's another thing you want to be sure is that the place that's packing it you can only does quinoa or that the much made sure that there's nothing else in there at the time um while he Paul would being dead okay let's take some of these question times asking if corn is a new item that came from like this why the it yourself King we're different okay there are some items from OSHA feisty let's talk about peanuts reb moshe says that peanuts are not kid knows because it is a new item and you end up as a kid we used to use peanut oil okay no well I remember there too but yet now you won't find a certification on it it sort of crept into the instituted quinoa custom and truth be told you can use custom would I say gamma 0 into the kidneys custom if quinoa would be would have the same route at peanuts no on and and and people would would stop eating it because they're considered kidneys that would be the custom then that could become that could require us to stop certifying it because we can't argue with the way people treated so it's all based on the customer basic answer who is his question that it's crept in and I was unless right puffle depends on how it's used well actually cornflower again not gonna yeah um now I do have also a video rabbi Lewyn showed that yeah crime is asking what's the starcade position on coming what our position is that our position is that it could be a problem it's similar to two grains that that our kid Neos but if the agency takes responsibility the kosher agency takes it rough ability that there is no comets problem with it we will accept it so we could accept women with a reliable passing certification so it would need a reliable yes sir yes is believed the other place they restigouche persons in your community yes okay the people that we sent to Bolivia were so now they live there they live in South America I don't think that they had any problem though okay let's let's go over here only kidnap people they can write get money out of hold on take another buyer let me bring this up and the next thing I'm going to show is a video of a mess here in the fields I have to warn you that it's on YouTube site so if you can't some people have walked off youtube and when you see we have a video I put um mostly you a Malaysian Thetis owner at a conference in a translator please graduation on the screen Oh Don Diego say ciao kima I'd only possible it's obvious time come on Tony King he's loving it oh I didn't mean I met deposit but when you're going to do that again but you can see that you saw their alibi or how they hear the primitive method as I say very high-tech it's a primitive method can you see that Rabbi reference ancient harvest is literal it's a primitive method of production it's not it's not a high-tech at all I found it to be very interesting this is there are these people and there's meeting this stuff and doing this stuff for thousands of years exactly and we just adjust these are like the original Mayans no se you alessio la casona y un carajo es de ganas de notre the red the red stuff over there yeah red is also can you read this red quinoa there's black quinoa different types of king mo this is this is the only kind of kin I've ever seen Ricardo hey ben de ahora y lo que hace es yes I'll era yo granola quinoa t las horas de Bahia we are in science is religion into the toilet how do you close up of our yeah this is our Marcia and he did a wonderful job and he's interviewing the the farmer discussing the issues with them and we asked him to make videos so that we had have a record of what what happened there let me see if I can bring up one more video revive are there any more questions I don't see them coming up on my screen you can have a look at that if you can let's bring up this this other video of the disease is the most green tea ah i see you wed redken that was a quinoa broker occasion poco my room this is for a pictorial Jessica this is escrow is harvesting and then they put it in power almost like like it was harvested like nothing and it's kind of big statement is gonna stay here driving AI mean drunk Ryan yes mr. speaker and ok let him until it had do salotto Domingo instead rods Volumnia dcl umbrella porque los precios de la compania pass yes tomorrow dimensional array so there soon as you look at what point I want to get across is gist of it is that he spent a long time days in the fields and watching the heart of the harvest process and then we that was like a pilot trip and then when two came time for packing he went back to the end of the drive the facilities yes month later he went back and he was there I constant basis to make sure that there was no problem with the with the kid one so I feel confident enough this year to to say it doesn't need any checking in previous years we would say you can buy it but you should check it and this year we're not saying that I think is going to be a lot very pleased kinwa consumers and one thing that that I have over here rather by open up while while while we're waiting is a little pole over there so we can see our covert we can see who is going to be using kinwa or not using kinwa you have entirely too much time on your hands but when did you run this whole about five minutes before I openly started about five to twelve I didn't get I was not I cannot get them know we're running it right now I created it it only takes a second to create people are answering now whether or not the way or agendas go out to all our listeners they're very yeah they're watching now and you're voting whether or not they're going to be using kinwa on pases will get will get the ring at least I will you be using stark a certified in London okays what we want you okay let's go back to some of these questions and I'm going to turn it over to around by Holland if we can really talk about all these things for four days and days but we don't have that much time pecan halves not pieces cosco I have it can be used ok we have something about pecans in your book and is actually very interesting because pecans are just a row of all none yeah we say whole pecans are now required Kaffee certification as long as there's nothing else in the package however pecan pieces and pecans must be carefully symbol left because sometimes they washed in and alcohol actually so it's not quite that that it's not gonna watch them and alcohol what it is is I have a plant that does mmm few cans or the cons okay Ron my guest and the the reason why it's only the pieces and the peek a little little small weekend is because they add alcohol to the to the washing world because they want the little pecan to be able to to fall to the bottom Ison and they won't do that if they don't add the alcohol changes somehow the balance in the order or something the bigger pecans they'll still be please don't sink on their own that's right really displeasure with the pieces so it's just the pieces I see the pieces in the midgets interesting it seems some our poll that about hacen had hits half and half half of our people will be using you didn't kill my hair for which it's fine everybody's more people may not want it's a new identity here let's go if you take some of it I was kid nation is Daniel and his back a positional aspartame Sark a doesn't doesn't we don't serve in a star cape let's say simply cine star cake with anything with the sky can label doesn't have kidneys understand which is where finish the keenest I went through a change because we have an article we don't have time to go into it right now but we have an article in our book that you can read all about it what is the status of baby formula is liquid better than palette and stuff is perspective is there a baby formula value problem of kittens okay these are these are all good questions in the book toss that may but we don't really have the time to go through right now I would ask you a time if you could please email us the question and we will we'll get back at you copia desk and Jenna note ahead yes you need an email surf acacia ave certified pecan have in order to use it on Passover IW a Gascon would you roll a buyer on the golden skin when it's over yes i am using the quinoa planning on i am also using quinoa so I think I don't like it we don't have a problem I families using killer ok I want to thank everybody for joining us now before we go we're gonna have everybody Holland come in and speak about all on star s please don't eat that nano please stay with me tuned and thank you very much rabbi buyer for all your love Julie okay to be here with you okay thanks very much remember monday is our next class samer same at the same at the same time the same web location and the same phone number and as we wait rabbi homes our mole spices no spices sim about cinnamon okay we gotta go I mean on ground cinnamon she's taught that that's why it's not like the whole spice you can have something on the Lamar lists and I need to take a look at that I don't want to say about without checking again you could email us at info at star desh ke door and column eat the napkins need to be kosher for Passover is there is the answer is No thank you have a buyer hey cap okay and now you would like to welcome rabbi Holland please have a seat while I clean up all these regular tastes of products and you can get your start s going to be very hungry here a little boy so I want to take a minute here in the starcade headquarters to talk to you about a new certification that we're going to be doing in partnership with many sparty rabbis around the country called star s star s is indeed similar to the star k in the sense that it has a star but instead of an S instead of a que inside it has an S and what is the star s me let's start with what the star s means when it comes to pay set most of us know that it is the custom of ashkenazi as described in the I think it's civet Oakland pmo in children are the dash can also do not eat rice and other kidney of some paste reasons why they don't right some other kids and pets are described in toward and then some of the other returning as first of all because the rice is often stored grown and mixed together the comments grains and it's difficult to ensure that there will not be comments in a rice product or other kidneys product in addition to that rice can be ground up into a flower and the kids easily confused with the other grains rice is also a media Dominican it's piled up in grain piles like other grains so in many Ashkenazi communities and by now in all our skies of communities rice is not used and many other kidney has has been added to those lists hitting literally means legumes things like beans are considered kit Gnaeus uh dry beans string beans this is gone this is not very far we as Khedive you even rape seeds which are the seeds used to crush canola oil as kidney oz and we don't use grape seeds on on Pesach this is not the custom of the Sephardic communities like many of the early good early African oz this fired them did not accept nadera of the custom of kidneys while no Sanhedrin ever got together and and instituted this as a law eventually among ashkenazi communities over the objections of some individual great Ebola a post comb of the world of Ashkenazi jewelry it became clear that Ashkenazi Jews would not eat kidney Oh some pace off however Spartan in general duty kidney out someplace up there are varying customs within the Sephardic community as to which kidney Oh state but they certainly do each kidney Osen paces in Israel and Eretz Israel whether I believe that the majority of the dues narratives or large part of a Sephardic nature there are many many certifications on kit Neos with Mesa in fact it's one of the challenges of keeping kosher place often artisodes you have to pick your way as an African Ozzy through the aisles to ensure that you're only buying products that are three of kidneys here in the United States the major captures agencies were founded by Ashkenazim in general or staffed by African ottoman and the needs of the Sephardic community have not necessarily been met not in kidney oz and not in other areas which won't discuss later for many years the Sephardic rabbis have worked very hard to find information is through a variety of different ways speaking to companies speaking to cassius agencies like the starcade and other major cash attendances to try to guide people who are accustomed to eating hit neos on Pesach as to what they can consider with comments free however over the years that information the research done by those rabbis I think it's worthwhile putting out the weather ever to work the hardest in this area really it's a fire feat of the Jersey Shore worth of X rabbit revenant which is called the JSO are over the years all this information and started to lead the community and it's rabbis in the direction of feeling like they really would benefit from having a certification where they would be able to just like the Ashkenazim I have the ability to certify things four days after they would also be able to certify thanks for pesach they'll be able to go into factories and visit where the factories would want to see them where the production's can be done on the level and the standard that we have been accustomed in Ashkenazi community to demand for pesach productions things have become more complicated every year the list gets smaller and smaller things are unclear ingredients change sub ingredients change people get used to one thing and then the next year it can't be there anymore so with this in mind rabbi Emanuel Goldsmith was the rapper master of the star s and a longtime member of the star care staff as in charge of shatners is the relevant new baked Jack hope in Bolton one and one of the first Persian telling the common we're coming in very strong but I Gomes is in addition a comment of her behind emmett elijah hanuman chalisa the Vinick administrator to starcade my gold Fez has been advocating for years that the starcade initiate a program to serve the needs of the Sephardic community he pointed out the background from our president that not only on Pesach are thus far de mundo serve but also throughout the entire year Sephardic Jews have a standard of assurance rail of foods that require cooking by a jew that are higher than Ashkenazi standards may know that fresh canals and foods that require cooking meat chicken fish eggs rice and other kinds of foods that require Jewish involvement and cooking Ashkenazim are willing to accept the opinion of the Rama that only a if a Jew likes the fire even if the fire has been running for six months that is enough to consider it be having to cook so I don't have a higher standard who needs to be cooked until it is one-third complete bye-bye actually buy a June and therefore perspire too many many foods that are on the market and virtually every restaurant the United States or almost every restaurant is really not acceptable for spider sushi sticks can't potatoes according to some opinions independent pre-prepared french rights are all things that honestly are not acceptable by the strict understanding of Halawa according to the Baker safe according to the Sephardic tradition with that in mind this year stark a made the effort to initiate the star s program the star s program's first product we have here actually as a demonstration is a rung of really unprecedented significance in the United States market and that is Carolina mahajan rice I want to tell you what it looks like so you should know there is no other right like this on the market that we are certifying there are many different kinds of rice that you can find on the shelf is one kind of rice which is a which is a milled rice and long grain white rice which is often packed in facilities that have comets that is co packed there and there could be all kinds of challenges with that is concerned it can be enriched with things that have comments problems with it and at least unclarity this Carolina mahajan rice was made together with the guidance of rabbi gold fest and Rabbi Moshe cone of Internet etheric karate and not in myself in a very special rice mill in the heart of American rice country I don't have to go talk to me did as the spider would say with full supervision just like we would do if we would do such a thing for Ashkenazim very similar to the way the stark a certified our kosher for Passover kill on that you probably heard about before this rice was made for spire them and as you can see look very carefully at the right this is a very special you see on each side of star SP for aspire them only this is Carolina mahajan nobody else has it except will be the only long grain white rice that is certified for pesach this year now this was only the beginning of our rice efforts there are two other rice brands that we managed to certify for pesach and this rice is rice that we certify a year round four star k for everybody and for passover it has starred s approval those two kinds of rice are the popular super lucky elephant jasmine rice with the star k that comes from thailand and comes from a facilities that are absolutely cleaned that we have visited by our representatives and the himalayan pride by smadi that comes from india Griffin star K is also approved for paisa having said that it's important to note we received many consumer questions about this the custom in the Sephardic community when one eats rice for pesach is to check the rice three times colonel by Colonel this custom according to the rabbonim that we have spoken to is in violent and we I'm not taking a position that our rice that we have certified does not require checking and that those who have the custom would be would do well to discuss it with the rabaa if they have difficulty with the custom but our certification of the rice does not address the question of the custom at all another product that we have certified for pesach exclusively for Spartan our yarik brand frozen beans jarek and carolina mahajan are exclusively distributed by quality frozen foods in brooklyn new york and we have uric french cut green beans regular cut green beans cut corn peas and peas and carrots all certified star SP for passover and this is something that again these are not this is not something that is a type of a thing where we say oh it's good for a safari and this is something where the rabbit themselves visited rather corner of a gold has visited the facilities that produce these products themselves and they verified that just the same way Ashkenazim would verify for pesach that their food is cultural places they verify that these beans which is custom of astronauts Ajuri not to eat are indeed kosher for pesach a third product that we worked very hard on and had sets of meetings with different revenue to make sure that it would meet sephardic standards is not only a pesach product but a year-round product and that is tuna fish as I mentioned before as far as them require visual later say that the tuna that that products that require be surely as well they're actually cooked the first third by a Jew himself last human action that is done to cook the food and the first third of the cooking should be done by a jew and I'm proud to to inform the community those who may or may not know that California delightful runs of tuna fish as described in our certification letter which is available if you can't take this dark a starting with the Passover runs that say january 2016 expiration date those are stars p approved we should bake to essentials far Adam that is a level of visual Israel that is approved responded we are working very hard to expand the line of star s approved products one of the big frontiers that we're going to focus on is very exciting is that next week we're going to develop for the very first time in American made homeless product that is going to be a star SP kidney otras Bardem only so let's be produced here in Baltimore Maryland at the wild pea hummus factory which is a local kumis producer and it will be available this year at least in seven mile market it's important to note that there are varying customs with regard to the eating of kidney out in the Sephardic communities for example almost all sort of communities eat rice on Pesach however Moroccans Moroccan Jewish community has a custom not to eat rice and pacer and that is that is something that's in violent and despite the fact that we've certified star SP Carolina majandra and Himalayan pride and super lucky elephant rice it is not acceptable for people of the Moroccan community and other communities that may not eat Rancher paisa and on that note comos which is made from chickpeas is a bean and it is eaten by Moroccans I believe however however Syrian Jews do not eat come loose and pay sucks because it sounds a lot like comments unless you ask you guys them out there giggle of that you should know that it is a custom of bells are considered not to eat carrots on pace we all know that carrots are not comments using white bells and has even don't eat carrots and pizza because Yiddish carrots are called merit which means more and therefore they don't eat the comment they don't eat carrots on pizza and similarly it is the custom of the Halloween the Syrian Jews not the comments on Pesach I want to point out to this party people listening that there are some serious issues with regard to kidney oat certifications on Pesach we have over here I believe in product that exhibit number one I want to say about this in an upstanding wonderful Jewish supermarket it is a microwave popcorn okay power obviously not for pesach however down here right here it says coach of the pace exception I'm gimel over the kidneys be sure her ability Rick Lisa R at the chief rabbinate of Israel accepted that this is coach Allah pacer that does not mean that the okay said it was coaching the pace i'll allow he was asked whether i could recommend this for spartan alia discussed with Rabbi gold fez and I looked in the looked into this company which is in its written in Hebrew somewhere in Dublin Carolina which would mean south carolina and i discovered that i discovered that there there's an oil that's used in here no it was a very big problem despite the fact that the kidney o'doyle's inherently do not necessarily create a problem perspire them because oil production has become very complex we have difficulty recommending kitten on oils like soy oil or canola oil or corn oil because there are additives that we have been informed both by the companies that we work with at the star k that we certify their oils and by other certification agencies who certify additives that are used in these oils that they can't guarantee that they don't have to have commented so therefore this year the star ass has not approved any oil for pesach that doesn't have a coach of a paycheck certification what this means is that we were not able to succeed in certifying a kidney old oil canola oil or soy oil or vegetable oil or corn oil paid back because there are concerns have comes the additives that are placed in there and our ebony we're not willing to compromise our certification to actually certify that whether or not those are acceptable how logically is a question you might want to ask you rabbi we're not saying that it's not acceptable to accept those oils oh I'm saying that there's a whole logic question and as your behind man has taught us at the star K we it's our job to certify that to make things coach true through lenience ease it is our job to make sure that there are no questions there are no stylist so therefore this particular product the star s is not able to endorse for pesach despite the fact that it does have an endorsement from the chief rabbinate of Israel because we had difficulty determining on what basis the oil used in the popcorn was deemed to be comments free and having said that I invite everybody if they have any questions to call the star K whether their questions for Ashkenazim worse pardon or any other kind of Jew you can call the star K every day at 410 4844 110 from 9am to 5pm you can email us 24 hours six days a week at star dash K at Starrcade org and do not ask for a bite on you might get at me but you can't ask for me in addition to that I don't want you to forget that the star K has our free online pesach directory that you can get you can download it online if you click on the Pesach patrons is on the homepage you will be able to download the entire stark a portion for free and rabbi gershon best for como los angeles's a medicine cosmetics version you can purchase online for download for 699 through paypal and you'll be able to view it on your digital devices your computer and your if you have a tablet or a telephone that does that kind of thing you'll be able to have that conveniently that way you could also call the star K and can sell you on or call como los angeles and their numbers on the website and they can send you one as well we were here for you at the star k and we wish you a happy and kosher pesach thank you very much for mahallan for that introduction to test RS and I don't think some of the last questions I just joined it what did right behind say about quinoa okay we discuss the Kindred about 10-15 minutes and we do have Passover certified kinwa disc Lissa and I will be posted probably in a couple 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