Have Your Coffee and Drink it Too -Ben Yomo

[Music] in this episode of ben yomo we're going to address the question of coffee the question of drinking coffee in a non-kosher coffee house for hundreds of years pisces have addressed the propriety or impropriety of drinking coffee in a non-jewish coffee house in today's modern coffee house there's almost no cross-contamination between any non-kosher food and drink that could make the coffee or its equipment non-kosher however in almost every modern coffee shop there will be a high temperature dishwasher used to sanitize the food service equipment and the coffee service equipment and they could be washed together at the same time which raises a question whether the dishwasher makes the coffee equipment non-kosher so how does a dishwasher work water comes into the dishwasher which is then heated by this element here the water is then drawn by a pump into these sprayers which sprays the water onto the dishes which washes the dirt off of the dishes so the dirt on the dishes gets knocked into the water on the bottom of the dishwasher and it just sits there cooking in the hot water and being sprayed over and over again all over your dishes milk water flake of water even traff water so basically you have very flesh egg or milking or traff water that's being heated right there or clearing and being sprayed all over your dishes again and again and again now that we know how a dishwasher works it should come as no surprise that we don't recommend going to non-kosher coffee shop to drink coffee made in equipment that was washed in a non-kosher dishwasher while we're talking about dishwashers what happens if we make a mistake let's say you have a fleischer dishwasher and someone accidentally put a milk a spoon into the dishwasher so now that was from the cereal this morning they had cereal milk there was a little residue on the on the spoon this is the most common shiloh with dishwashers in that case we would say the dishwasher is still kosher because the amount of milkricks in that dishwasher is going to be bought from a shishman the residue is my newt compared with the water that's going through the dishwasher even the beliefs of the spoon may not be a problem and even if they are a problem it's still a minute amount compared with the volume of the dishwasher itself and therefore the spoon is bottled bashing the milk is baltimoshishim in the dishwasher the dishwasher's crusher all the candy market with the exception of the spoon itself so very simple ether if a milk a spoon goes into a flake chicken dishwasher and you ran a cycle you would take the spoon you would let it sit for 24 hours you would put it into boiling water and the rest of the dishwasher and the rest of the calum are cushioned enough about dishwashers let's get back to coffee shops so the real problem in a coffee shop assuming that everything that's going into your cup is kosher is going to be the dishwasher even if there may be some flavored inclusions they're not going to rise to the level of making the calum not caution the real problem is the dishwasher washing coffee service equipment together with food service equipment let's make this simple coffee shops of course it's preferable to go to a kosher certified coffee shop if one's traveling and you know that everything's going into your cup is kosher there's room to be lenient and to buy coffee even in a non-kosher coffee shop as long as you know that everything that's going into your cup like black coffee is kosher remember that there are a lot of things that coffee shops have syrups bases mixes that are not kosher certified and the only way in an uncertified environment for you to know whether their crusher is to actually see that they're crushed there are coffee chains that don't use high temperature dishwashers and it'll be easier to drink all kosher drinks in those kinds of stores it's very common in the dunkin donuts chain for all the hot water to be limited to 120 degrees if that would be the case and you'd probably need to verify it then there wouldn't be any problem of cross-contamination between kalin because the water doesn't rise to the level of yazza lettuce now there are drinks in starbucks that are made in a way that never come into contact with dishwashed equipment those are espresso-based drinks espresso-based drinks like cappuccino or macchiato and so on and so forth as long as everything that goes into your cup is kosher certified do not present the dishwasher problem for a full list of those see the star k website at www.stardashk.org under the starbucks list while we're on the topic of coffee we might as well address the keurig machine the curry machine is a dedicated machine it's calen mujaden there is nothing else that you do at a keurig machine except put k-cups in it and generally speaking you don't take it out and put it in a dishwasher so the question is can i use a curing machine in my office where there are people who are not kosher can i castrate my cure for pesach or if i got to use kirk what can i do with it the first question is was the keurig ever used for non-kosher or hummus now plain coffee is not common in addition to that there may be flavored coffees which absolutely require a haksha or other specialty drinks which also require hector but they wouldn't rise to the level of making something really that traif or comet stick there was a time when they had chicken soup cake ups which were absolutely traefe otherwise we would advise that a keurig machine could actually be cautious for pesach by running a cycle now it's important to note that the cup holder in the k-cup is made out of plastic we would advise getting a new replacement k-cup holder for pesach for your curry machine some people think it's a humra to catch a thing with an immersion heater because the there are cheetahs and there's shinrim that irri isn't even um it doesn't even ask a great creeper so we're mahmoud creeper if it doesn't also clay clipper that means it's not movable likely bird so how is it going to get out any issa or hummus that was in the oven which is would go in there could they clipper i'm not in favor of that as a matter of fact i think that kash that um clashing with an immersion heater is not considered a cleavation according to all sheetas now there's a baseliner a tube from the baseline who says that when you put immersion heater into the water since you're not heating up the bottom of the sink so the sink is cold and you're putting hot water into a cold clean so it's like a cliche because ptosis says that the reason why cliche is not marshall is because the tranus macaro is that the walls of the kali are going to cool off the water so myself argues and said well we see it boils so how do you say that it's not sorry but he says no it's a cliche and based on this based shloimer i would venture to say that if you cook up water in a microwave oven that is also clicheny because the microwaves do not have any effect on the glass or whatever else you're using