Hilchos Safrus with Rabbi Spiro (06/18/2014)

my name is sv goldberg it's my pleasure to welcome you to our halacha webinar a joint project between starkey kosher certification and national council of young israel we're grateful to remember muhammad for arranging this program and setting it up today's speaker is spiro who is one of the khashoggi sofrim in baltimore he's really a sulfur sulfur uh a person that others sophomore go to with shiloh's he took the safer question for the classic safer on uh on saffros and he put the different emission of brewer on the bottom so you can see you compare contrast what does the question suffer say what does the mission of bruce say and in the end of that he added his own artists his own chuvas and it's a khashov addition to your farm shelf i bought it maybe 20 25 years ago but it's been since reprinted and uh and and you should look into getting that for your for your suppressed needs so i'd like to start with a a small myself that happened to me when i came into the school uh where i was a robe and they told me that they were in the middle of uh fixing the safer torah and they got the sacred torah back but they were surprised at the bill that was five thousand dollars and they were expecting a hundred dollar uh fee that's what they were told and they were shocked because they hadn't budgeted for this and this was a big deal for for the shul it's a big deal for anybody so i called the software and i said to them that they were wondering where you know why was it why was it so much and he said that he told the shul exactly what it was going to be it was going to be a hundred hours of work a hundred hours and i said to myself okay well that's where they they got confused he said 100 hours and they heard a hundred dollars well there's quite a bit of difference between the two of course they paid because that's the work that he put in i think the story illustrates that it's important for the rove to be involved in in the suffrage of the shul had somebody looked at the seifitora and known what the problems are and heard that the sofas charging a hundred dollars to fix it he would have certainly said well how could it be a hundred dollars to do all this work it's uh either the sofa it's not really something doesn't fit with this story how can it possibly be a hundred dollars to do to fix all these oceans so it is important for the ralph to be involved and rabbi spiro is going to speak about this topic of the rov and the sephirah stam of jesus without further ado oh my spirit okay um i've been asked to give a little talk um to prospective rabbanim i've raised him who are looking to go into abundance um as was mentioned in my introduction and so first time here in baltimore and my goal here is just to touch upon certain areas issues as it relates as they relate to esophagus that i believe you will probably encounter um as the rub of the kahila um let me start with a little anecdote i remember many years back when i was uh i was learning quite a little and um i was second in the third year cola at the time but i had a friend who was actually getting ready to one of my bruce was getting ready to leave kylo and he was looking into going to rabonas so he decided to make an appointment with one of the uh more well-known rabonum uh older up on him here in town just to see if he could get some some advice just to schmooze over the whole thing and uh see um what he could glean from him that might that he might find helpful so when he came back he told the first thing he told me was that um you know the ref said you know most people who going to go into rabonas they know well in advance while they're still learning that there's certain areas of aloha they're going to have to really have down pat because they're going to get a lot of shyla's in those areas whether it be but the rev said there's one area of iloca that that kind of falls through the cracks and and many americans going into abundance don't find out until they're on the job this is this is an area of local they're going to get many questions about it and i'm talking about illness mezuzah um now i'm not talking not so much about uh though that's important too if you if you can you know if you can if you still have if you have time to learn that but for the most part i'm talking about um hilda's cavias mizuzu all the all the unlockas as they relate to rooms that need mezuzas how to put them up which rooms need and so on and so forth how to deter there's more than one way to walk through the house how to determine which is the right side um these alakaz for those who don't know are located in helikira day of although if you look in the kitchen you'll find them right next to uh filling so i imagine that the people will be leafing through chocolate and i'm trying to find out this message but it's incredibly gimbal of um of your day as you know heredia and um it's a very it's really a crucial area of aloha that that you need to know that you need to master because invariably you're going to get a lot of questions people calling or moving into the community moving out of the community or moving from one place to another and they need to know where to put mezuzah's what rooms get a broker can they take their messages i mean there are a belt of allah to learn um now like any area of aloha the best way to go about this is of course to first learn the subjects in in gemara which is showing them and most of these alohas are found in the third paragraph in malacca's comets and um after you've gone through the the various gamoras and uh and returning to rush et cetera and then to learn puerto rico and and then choke with the shaft and thousands and et cetera the same way you learn from your day you know for your raw bonus knowledge um now as far as other sporum are concerned um let me just mention a few of them that i think you'll find helpful uh refined kanevsky wrote a um a say for entitled messages might not have this in order masekah says since his children say chillin and in that volume you will find a set this section of shochonura uh rich pay hey i think it is to raise statically people of your idea you will find that section uh for you know put into the safer and uh refined kanewski actually wrote a a uh mission type rich on on and i would recommend that after you've uh gone through as we explained a moment ago the the various things that need to be done i would suggest that you again learn it through learn learn through the narcan and those semana together with his parish now as far as others form are concerned um there are many i mean i'm from the old school so i'm still using this firm that were around when i first started there's a well-known savior julius hador but he also wrote a parish and called baseboard and it's in the second caleb of that kayode based product volume the the last section is uh like a separate contrast uh called cultural azusa now it actually was not written by ruby on the zombies it was written by his son but but i believe he says in his husk and his um uh i think he mentions that you know that he's basically his mosque into what it says there obviously wouldn't have printed it with his safer so those are just forms that i've always used but there are more contemporaries for them which also contain good illustrations and pictures that the the only other safer i will mention that i think is it will be good for you to have at least as a reference safer is to say for augur by rebellio feldman it's a very expensive comprehensive all-encompassing safer anovas mezuzah with you know excellent pictures and illustrations and i think uh any ceo or any situation that you're going to encounter i think you'll likely find find it finely discussed in there so it's a good it's also a good safer they have i would highly recommend um so um part of your job you know as a roof is is to teach um not just not just to give nice structures on shabbos or not just to counsel people when they need counseling but your job is to teach now mezuzah i i imagine that your first style is probably going to be in some small out of town and many of the people there you will find probably um don't have that much background or didn't go to yeshiva and uh it's your job to teach to teach them and when it comes to helpless mezuzah um you know people are accustomed to spending a lot of money on the case um but very little you know on the cloud so i think it's important to give shurim where you uh simply simply imagine them you educate them to the you know with regard to the midsole mezuzah or you know something and and and and and simply some of the hell of us or what goes into one mezuzah um most people don't know that it takes it could take two two to three hours to write just one mezuzah and uh of course the software is similar to a doctor you know has put in you know a tremendous amount of time an enormous amount of time to get to the point where he's at where he was able to where he's able to write and you know right according to our local and you know people understand spending money on an expensive case but but people who a front you know never had a yeshiva background um are going to find it very difficult spending a lot of money on the class especially if they want an expensive house and the authorities spent a lot of money on new appliances and new furniture this and that and usually not much left for mezuzah so i think you need to educate them at you know in advance they should know in advance you know what goes into a mezuzah and talk to them about hidden mitzvah and that's another issue that's kind of difficult to explain to people who have no background um i often get uh people i talk talk to people about buying 100 messages and they say well you know rabbi we i can't see it anyway so what what difference does it make can't see it so why get it why get a mezuza that that has a beautiful exotic i can't even see it and in reality um it's not a bad time really because in reality it's the focus beside them whether there's a difficult on something that's hidden um uh something that you can't see but i will tell you that ramon um i made the broccoli before so that's why you never broke it for me now um so in reality the dinner video both say is is shocked even something that you don't see the tin from the eye and what what i usually tell people when they say you know why why spend money on a more beautiful cassava can't see it anyway i say to them well you know three bonus one can see it and that that's usually you know adequate answer for them and i think if people realize um the time that goes into the mezuzah and and the significance of the mitzva you know based hopefully on this room that you will give once the people are educated and then they know what's involved um they will appreciate it and and and be more willing to to spend the money you know that um that's necessary to get more ridiculous um now um you're probably probably going to be be prepared to um to be called and asked to actually come over to people's houses because it's otherwise it's going to be difficult to determine or to answer their questions people sometimes will draw sketches for you but the best thing is always to to come in come to the house see the doorways and and and a lot of times um the shia will be whether or not you know this structurally speaking this doorway you know it's considered it's a pesach that needs a mezuzah or not and there will be all kinds of questions that will vary on uh depending how you come into the house and um it's always safe is to uh to actually go there and see the rooms and ask the necessary questions that that you need to have answered to determine you know if the room needs a message you know or what side is the right side after there's more than one way to walk through the house so this is something you're going to be need to actually do fairly often to come over to people's houses now chances are if your first stellar is in a small out of town um kahila or city chances are that people the show will have a gift store many of these shows i grew up in a small town west heart of connecticut so many different shows have their own judea stories you know just to raise funds but um and they carry messages so of course it will be your acharyas to make sure that the mezuzah's you know that are that are carried there are questions now an important point uh say you come into a community where there's been a row of the past 20 20 years and um and he's leaving and you're coming in and say for example you you go to inspect the mezuzas that are being sold there and you see based on your knowledge or perhaps you send someone to send some to a cipher and he tells you that they're only be divided with the evid casual and sometimes not even that um you know it's extremely important um a good rub doesn't only teach a good drug has to be a good psychologist and you have to understand human response and in situations like this imagine somebody coming in he's a new rug he's a young fella and he comes in and he and he announces to his kahila these mezuzahs are very poor and some of them not even kosher and we have to put them in shameless and you know we're going to order those this obviously hello zuha derek um you have to ex uh exercise ex extreme caution and um and teaching your kahila um about you know questions and uh it has to be done with patients with a lot of seiko with a lot of attack and if you're going to be mashipia you know on your kahila um these are indispensable uh clothing so to speak uh that you need to utilize you know again if you're going to give some sheer you know to the significance of of the mitsubishi and you could even probably say some basic shirum you know make copies and so people see for themselves you can see with their own eyes you know the deficiencies say of the of the messages that were there before and um and to slowly slowly break them in and and teach them you know that um and you know if you if you have that in mind with regard to it to to your kahila in general and all your hanovers with them i think you'll find that you'll be much more let's leave with him um okay so um i think so again just a few other important small notes with regard to mezuzah um i think one is that you should learn how to roll the mezuzah they're going to be people who will come um well if you're selling mezuzas you know in your gift store to say certainly it's important for you to know how to roll them and wrap them you know properly uh certain a lot of times people will come will come back married to trail where they bought mezuzas and they didn't have them rolled there because they want you to see them so people are going to ask you to roll them correctly and it's it's important for you to know how to do this it's not a not a big cleanse but it's important not to fold the mezuzah like a lot of people do because that puts pressure on the soft when you fold it down because should always be rolled and learn how to wrap it properly and then that way that you know the results will be preserved you know for many more years now as far as checking is is concerned of course again if you're starting off in the small communities chances are that that there's no soil there and most people really when they have them as this check they want a safer they want to have a software even though there's a well-known trooper from safer and here's um the checking that you do after twice every uh every seven years or three and a half years uh you're looking for deterioration you're not it's not you're not checking the hustle yesterday so in reality the sound service says anybody could really check the roma zeus's but most people you know are not just similar they're not comfortable with that and besides uh when when a good cipher obamacare checks the mezuzah he does a lot with it he not only looking for things that are puzzled to fix things that are puzzled but if they're fixable but a good cipher goodbye magia is going to go over oysters that are weakening a little bit you know to make them stronger all that's part of a good you know goodbye so you're going to want uh most people you know will not uh have their check their own azusa's or have somebody else check the mezuza's even the raw they've they'd rather have a sofa do it and um the question arises what are you going to do when you're in a small community and there's no sofa there so there are a couple of options um in our communities i know that in situations like that they they bring in being in the soil for a tour a few soy friends and they stay for a number of days and you know checking with zeus's um so uh frankly i i i always have mixed emotions about these mezuzah campaigns um on one hand uh even the communities where they are suffering you know there's a strong argument to have them because they're it's ordered people to have the messages checked now luckily you're supposed to have your business checked every three and a half years and let's face it a lot of people simply forget about it until the hostage home or they know they have some kind of crisis then they go up check run to check the results um i'll talk more about that in a moment but um you you so again you don't have a sofa there so you could bring in if um get in touch with the vatican in new york and and i think they'll help you with this bring in a few soy friends for whatever it is four or five six days you know check people's resources and um the reason why i always have mixed feelings about it is because generally um uh checking in that kind of scenario that starts from generally or the bottom line game generally feel very rushed they see hundreds of misuses you know one person could have 20 25 businesses uh they see people um deciphering and i've been involved in such campaigns you you're rushed you you you need there's something those that you have to do you you end up doing your medica you're about much quicker than you would if you'd be working under normal circumstances in your own work room at home whatever and um and certainly to uh the point i mentioned before if you go to go over to be my project uh you know for these people just very often in these situations there's no time for that so um it's on one hand it's more people they have their business checked which is important on the other hand um they start from generally are rushing to get through these messages and you don't get often don't get the thorough that you would expect otherwise but you know in a small community where there's no other story from it that you know i understand one understands that a lot of times you know and you have to do it now another option might be and i i would suggest that you as a rug should establish um the social uh maybe 25 30 i don't know even more if it's possible uh and this way people could actually mail or overnight to mezuzah's to regular cypher wherever they are people and in the meantime you won't be uh you know without messages um so that that's another option but of course um you lose the myla of uh that we mentioned that when you run a campaign you know some other people to do so and how likely you need to check your messages every three and a half years but on the other hand you know you'll you'll get a much i believe you will get a much better i got more thorough i got checking of your mezuzas and and now that you've established this come on people will not hesitate you know how can i be without my desires for so long this way you'll be able to provide the community members of the community with mezuzah's to put up in the interim now as i mentioned there were a moment ago hinted to was that a lot of people families who are going through some kind of crisis low eleno medical crisis financial crisis lost a job whatever whatever they always run they have their messages checked and um very often you know the messages turn out to be just fine like they were six months before when they hadn't checked last but they run they just run out to get get get do something so um this is these are very sensitive and delicate situations and um i can't tell you how many times people have brought the sources for me to check somebody's sick in the family and the messages are fine and then their reaction is what else could be wrong one of the rebellion here in town once told me that russian chevy used to talk about that and he used to say i'll be in this to turn suva you know you're looking that it shouldn't it should be the fault to be outside of you it's in the missouri deteriorated and that's what caused all my problems but to look within you know checking results is a good place to start when khashoggi is a family growing through a crisis very very uh it's a logical place to start but that it should just be a start a person has to be my master iso and you know sometimes i feel like saying to these people of course i don't because it's a very sensitive situation i feel like saying well you know how is your smear slush in here you know or how is your from your shop is or how much have you been learning lately i mean there's plenty of places to look into uh when you know these things are happening um so i'm just throwing that in kind of and you know to be prepared to be prepared for that for that kind of reaction um so uh i'll just leave off by just reiterating that any changes um that you're going to make when you come in as a rub you know do them slowly and tactfully so that um and that way people will be much more receptive you know to the change as important as you might feel that these changes are urgent um but just as a nolad you know take things slow step by step be patient you know with your aila and i think you'll be much more effective in being much be on them you know to have kosher mezuzas on their homes um okay so let's talk a few minutes now about film so a typical scenario that you're going to encounter a boise because he's 12 years old he's he's um he's approaching bar mitzvah age and um you're going to have members come to you and ask and ask you for us for guidance what what shall you order what what decision should i order and there's um there are a lot of things that that go into being moderately in the right way i think it's important for you to learn about before you venture out into your your um into the this area of rabonas i think it's important for you to get some basics yourself uh so you can be moderate people they're they're for instance there's four types of twilimbatum um that exists today and um just to review very quickly the cheapest level is what's known as putin where their bottom are amazing pieces glued together and even though in reality the gamora says one piece but those that used film like like these are swamiji and the that says they're gluing it together lovely makes it one piece and then the next level up is what's called shutter modarium where the top of the bias is one piece but the base is the second piece uh the third type is tacos which are totally oracle top and bottom is all one piece and let me just say that mostly showing them hold except for rashi and rama most for sure and behold the dynavor essentially just really means the top part what's called has to be at the top and the base if you tour all together it has to be all one piece um it is something that the are shown in the whole say you don't need but uh in dhakas and gasos uh you're going to get that you're going to get the hither of the top and the bomb being all one piece but obviously uh from the lotion you know that tacos means a very thin skin and gossip means a very uh a much thicker skin uh or bias now um you need to establish you need to but you know you're you're looking into what type of staff to get for this mishpocha so you need to try to find out you know what what their background is and um whether it's a literature background so then they'll they'll use what what's called stop excisive or background they're more likely their meaning is a reason uh if they're dim then then there's a third masora of sav spartix referred to as velis and you want to encourage them you know to adhere to their minute so that's another area that um that you need to familiarize yourself with now obviously it's better if you have time before before you go out into the field of staffers to if you have the time it is to actually learn these learn these yourself uh whatever um you want to go through semen and norakai which are crucial to see many more or in lieu of that or in addition to that you can learn the question safer which ephrata a parakeet where he goes through the tourist oasis which is written by the volcanoes the kitchen but um and today you know when i started i had to um i couldn't wasn't an area i could learn without without somebody helping me you know an apprenticeship kind of arrangement in terms of understanding different service oysters for instance uh but in reality um today they have excellence forum out with all really all the illustrations and and um and pictures of different service oasis you know what's a problem what isn't i mean obviously it'll possibly picture but you you'll you'll be able to get in a havana understanding of what the mahabharata is talking is a good one to have uh there's a safer called liquid sepham that has all the pictures as they're as they're brought down in in both the cases of safer and misha uh both sim and lamb of oven on the bays so you you can really uh it's an area of aloha now that um you don't have to go you know and run to the cipher every time you come to something and misha brewer and it's not quite clear to you what exactly did surah you know of the oysters talking about when he said don't make it like this or make it like this you know this and that you don't have to guess you you know you actually have the illustrations and the pictures before you so um you know if it's possible and you have the time to to to learn the eu you know into these areas uh you know call it it's a great thing that you know to do and and you should do it um now getting back to the scenario where a parent approaches you and they want to buy a parrot filling um so you know a lot of people feel that young bar mitzvah boys are simply not ready simply not ready for very expensive film they're simply not responsible enough and they're likely to leave it laying outside and who knows what it or leaving in a car you know the heat of the car you know for a day or two and on a hot summer day and uh being you know every parent knows their child so i it seems it would make sense to say uh that a child you know 12 year old boy who's not showing himself to be very responsible that maybe may not be such a great idea to get him a very expensive very moment to take the parents film um so it you know it's a decision that parents have to make really if they feel they're the son that a lot of parents feel there that they're not ready for it and they figure they'll get them a good style of parents phone now and you know that's the show when they become hassan and maybe they'll uh you know they'll get a more motivated to compare it or later in life they'll get it one more day to compare but and uh you know that's a personal decision uh that one that every parent has to decide for themselves uh when you when they're ordering or you're ordering whatever it's fun from out of town uh or you know your members of aquila are ordering from eric to throughout you it's important for you to remind them that they have to give over exact information um for the safer for the bottle market to know what to send you if you don't say anything you don't you don't um convey whether the bar mitzvah or the person is a righty or lefty or whether he puts on his film or what or what the what the what his minigame is in his family with regard to the kesha on the sharosh in the back chances are you're just going to get a parrot film for a right-handed person for entrepreneurs and in reality it may be that that that's clearly not the meaning of the family um and really in another point filling um righty and lefty really doesn't make a difference obviously um and the sharosh there's actually a a difference in the in the bottom um at the bottom of it prepares whether it's for righty or lefty uh because where the catcher goes that side of the bias is usually cut in further so to facilitate the the cash of being able to touch the bias you know the cashier is always supposed to be touching the bias so on the right hand the person that that cut in is on the right side for left-handed person to cut it is on the left side so um you know somebody orders children and he's left-handed and they send him right in so of course he runs to the server and the stuff well or the robe who know if rob knows how to make sure you know we'll make it it will make the catcher properly but you're going to have a hard time keeping the unit against the vice even if it's tied down with a piece again which is proper but when you tighten it you know you're pulling it away and it likely will not uh you likely will have problems having you touched touch device um now uh what i usually do in that situation is i actually drill it in on the other side you know to to facilitate to make that the catcher could be closer to the to the bodies but now it's drilled in now it's cutting on both sides you know it's you you want to you want to avoid this and as far as the charm concern um let me just say that i think this is another area that you need to learn and practice and know how to do and that's making a different sherm um there's a safer menu i'm sure many of you have heard of safer tommy manhungem which actually has in the back section of the safer has excellent sketches step by step how to make each and every type of kesha ashkenazvar left the righty it's the two-minute hug among the sharosh and uh if you have that handy you practice it you know you you know you should be able to master it uh without without a big problem and there's actually a third min hood uh with regard to the shayad and that is uh medic chabad or manik shokanov and that's a it's a totally different kind of cashier and uh the secret tommy manhattan does have sketches for that too at least for a right-handed person um making a chabad casher for a left-handed person is really just it's the mirror image of that of those instructions but i once said sophie once told me that he simply wasn't a but he didn't make a left-handed or he simply wasn't able to transpose it and make it correctly so what he did was he he photocopied each page of this of this sketches you know so for each step he had a different page and he would take take that page put it under his chin and hold it under his chin in front of the mirror and then he would follow you know he would see he would see the mirror image literally you know of akesha and then he would be as as he went from one sheet to the next you know he this is how he completed the gesture and it worked so whatever works works um and um uh don't forget of course all shrimp have to be made lishma you have to sail the shame or at least think like you know shane caduceus uh twilight now um just another important uh area that i think you need to stress you know when people come in for chakras in the morning unless they're retired or whatever they're usually in a great rush um right first of all a lot of times they're not it's not quite fully uh awake yet and um and they're rushing the diamond quickly because they have to get to work on time or or they have to take a carpool and um i think it in the shoe room that you give you know in in in tilland and i think you have to teach them that um it's important for them to take note i mean if they're not going to be responsible for their own film who's going to be responsible it's important to take note at least to take a cursory look every day and see what's going on with the villain for one uh that that there were two have to be black and it's very common especially around the area where you tighten it that that the black wears down um the bottom also should be black it's true according to the rama according rama it's not making it but there are opinions uh the ground other than xiaomi that say that it is united so one should uh always be inspecting both his uh ritsua's you know about them making sure that you know that they're black um a lot of times the area around where you tighten it tends to uh from you're pulling on it hard stretching it out so there's the minimum width that the that that that um the routers have to have a lot of times they get stretched out and and and they that one particular area the width it gets very narrow and you don't have this year so um it's important for people to take note you know at least once a week you know to uh maybe sunday when they're off to work um and take note of what's going on and and if they need black they should be blackened um good idea to keep um you know a marker they have these black markers with a hatcher today that you can use to touch up and it dries very quickly so um maybe you should have one available you know for for public use and of course teach them that they have to say the shame conditions finland you know before they do it and um and and anot another point that's important to take note of you know the shayat as you know that has a little cap on you know on the inside and the purpose of that cap is to protect the ribua what i mean by that is because when your hand is down by your side the corners tend to rub against the side of your body and it tends to round down the corners so you know the curve is there to protect it now um our people will never take it off and i don't think that's a good idea i i know i i read in the safe of the nation take it off for the broker levy in his church he says he takes it off for the broker uh there are opinions that hold that there should be nothing on the bias i'm not going to get into the lumbars behind it right now so at least for the brother it's a good idea to take it off uh to be used to those you know those other sheathers another reason why it's important i would say to take it off is because if you never take it off uh what could happen especially if you live in a very hot climate human climate climate what can happen is that the cover you know the pain could could um could get from the heat that it's exposed to lot of times it will kind of soften up and and the cover will get stuck actually gets stuck on the bias which holidays is a problem and you won't even know it because you never take it off and the only time you found out about it is when you brought it to the cipher that you know they haven't checked you wanted to check reboot let's say and you couldn't get the cover off and you had to tear tear it off to get it off and you you didn't even know because you never took it off so i think simply for that reason alone it's a good idea to take it off and as i mentioned a lot of google where nobody take it off for a brother um there is the challenge with arugula basin also brings new machitas that say that there shouldn't be anything on the bias or that it's a video of it they have something on by director says not to do it and nothing should be on the bias so um i would say it's what you know to be able to fill in even if you have it on even for one moment but you have it you you'd say so so at least take it off for the broker and beyond say you know those sheet is also that's it nothing should be on there um so a lot of your people that you will order film from will wonder what the purpose of that cap is um so you know you'll explain it to them as we explained you know it's to protect the reboot and then and um and and give them the hard rocket that we're talking about you know about taking it off and so on and uh so be prepared for that as well um so um i i think it's also a good idea for you if you live in the city where there's a batamacra it doesn't have to be about the mocker you know that makes bottom uh most of the bottom up there are a few bottom markers in america that actually make bottom williamsburg and and and in muncie there are a few but for the most part most of the bata markers are just involved with tick and bottom um i would say it's a good idea if you you can get some sheamus um you know from about the marker as to you know what is the problem and what is not a problem people are going to bring you a bottom where the stitching is torn or maybe where they dropped it as they were putting some way they dropped them on the table they banged in the corner um so you know you'll get some shimmers from either or bottom acro what is the problem what is that not a problem you know i think you'll find that quite helpful um and and and obviously just as well if you can get some shima by a cipher you know get get some sheamus as far as experience uh to knowing what is a problem you know when you have a variation in the tourist race what is not a problem these are kind of things that you know you have to be shown so you know if that um if that scenario exists if that possibility exists you know that would obviously help you a lot when you're out there uh and some way out town you know uh without any any help and you know you're the one that everybody's looking to for uh for a hydraulic or sock even in philadelphia's you know people don't don't think that it's any different than shabbos or whatever and so the more shiny you can get by a cipher or a mata maker um you know will be helpful now there's a safer sichuan leo written uh by two mahabharata morgan stern and uh gitman one one of the big party secondaries israel today um and one is a bantamaker and it's a really again a very comprehensive extensive keyboard with loads loads and loads of diagrams and pictures and i would say simply it's good to have as a reference safer you know at least it will help you determine uh in certain situations whether something is a shiloh that needs to be sent out or not to shiloh so that i think that's an important statement for you to get it it took many years to write it's uh very harsh of a safer and as i say it's i think it's really an important safer to have as a reference for you to check things at least to know if something is needs to be fixed or you can make a broken or something like that um i think another um another good thing to do as a as the rub is to have at least one pair of gamoxalan available for use um um if you know how to make the shard of it and you know then you you can change the cashier as needed if you don't know how to make the charm then maybe it might be a good idea to have the different different characters separate and uh you know you'll you'll know how to put them in someone will show you how they go in and at least have that available for people who have problems with it fell in orders somebody comes in doesn't put on still never put on somebody for whatever but the show should have at least you know i think one or maybe two you know pairs of film that are available for public use when necessary um another area that people need to be taught about is many people um either i don't know but the first scenario won't be too common in out of town a small community people a lot of people go to mikva daily you know and other people shower right before goblin and often walk into the top into the opening with their hair still wet and invariably what that usually leads to is at the bottom the shores because the hair is still somewhat wet the bottom begins to absorb this moisture day in day out day and day out and they begin to work so i think it's important just as a practical matter to make people aware that you know to preserve their filling and ribua you know it's important to to take care of that now a problem that's been i think with us i think centuries sorry because i know in the century which i tried to learn daily he mentions it that this was such a problem in his time is that it's common especially with elderly people um that they have their their values arose um hanging down on top past their hairline where the hair begins to grow down you know on top of their forehead and we pretty much passing that offer even if the slightest bit of the bias that means even the tourer goes down below the hairline that you know you're not using of course if for one moment it was in the right place another slipped down you know you would you ever do you would say because you had it in the right place you know at least for a moment but um this is a very difficult situation because whatever reason people are very sensitive about it they're just it's it's hard to go especially to go up to an elderly person let's say who's been wearing this you know for so many years this way and after all the rug before never said anything so it must it must be okay you know must be a right to wear it there and um again do things with patients with say hope with tact don't run up to a person in a loud voice and say you're filmed in the wrong place you're not you'd say or something like that um people are not going to be very receptive to that again if you're giving i think these are areas that you should give shiraman and as we mentioned before in hilton missouri's end of the film you know you can mention it and and and put up diagrams as you're giving your share where it needs to be so you're not talking directly to anybody's specific nobody you're not criticizing where nobody's going to look at it as criticism criticism because you're speaking to the whole group now once you've conveyed that to people i think it might be a lot easier to approach people i would suggest you know you have to work it out to yourself you know you got as i said a good rub is also a good psychologist and you have to know how people are going to respond you know to to some correction you want to make for them um you know one approach might be that you might ask after that i might ask the person to come into your office you wanted to show them something or give them something i don't know you know you'll make something of a show you know something you show them and then you know our garbage as he's going out you say you know uh mr zones i think as you might remember we learned in this year you know that i think it needs a slight adjustment if you do it right you know they won't be won't feel slighted they won't feel embarrassed if you do before hestia and you know and a loud voice or whatever you know or or where people can hear you know what you're saying i think you're going to very often simply not succeed um and it may cause a riff in your relationship with that person so do things uh tactfully and um be sensitive you know to to the members feelings and um it'll work simply will work much better and i think you'll you'll be matslia um so um i i think that's pretty much what i wanted to say um you know about filling um so let me talk about super torah for a few minutes um oh oh before i go on there's one other point about fill in uh checking check we talked about checking so clearly checking the zoos is is um you know uh it's a fair shallow enchantress that you know twice every seven years which just it's just a lotion kotzer really means every three and a half years so what about filling what about checking your filament so um unless you only wear the frog if it's only one on occasion then it's more likely to maybe get mildew or deteriorate it doesn't get air at all and then there's a thing to check it you know every three and a half years now it's not clear and i'll look what what is considered leprochem and what is not in addition the rpa skin contemporary post game would have spoken to who hold that if if the bias is really sealed up well you know what's called what's called a professional sagira you know really tight and you can't even see you know where it opens where the seam opens um there are opposing love told me that they feel that even tone that you don't know where the fracking you don't really have to have checked but of course that that's uh you'll be making that for yourself but the phone that you wear every day um maker then you definitely don't have to have them check as long as long as there's no razor nothing happened to them um that that that might cause a problem what i mean by that is um uh you know if they got wet they left them outside overnight you bar mitzvah boy that you thought was responsible left it outside all night in the rain or whatever and but uh it was in a plastic bag but you could see that you could feel its moist you know the vice a little bit of the sewers and um you know if there's eraser you have to have them checked but if there's no race uh um make your din you don't have to have it checked and even though there's uh there's a magnet of rum that says nonetheless it's not home david checked every three and a half years due to the fact that perspiration could get in and effect the lettering but again i've had poison tell me and and i think it's even in the halicus where he says that phil and chanas will be hidden the minigame is not to check them on the walker of double chrome was also a great and prominent police said never had his film checked um even in the days where when i was in yeshiva we used to have safe and they used to come to come to sheba and stay for a few days and even then the red devils did not have his tournament checked but then on the other hand myra shiva vitamin uh he did have tone checked crusaders so you know you're going to have different days um in this matter and um i think um you you'll present them you know to to your uh and uh maybe you'll you'll talk to your own lawyer whatever to decide you know what you're gonna tell them to do uh you know bottom line what should i do should i have them checks and i haven't checked um but in any case uh that's um that's something is there a downside to having them check um well for one uh unless you're you're uh um you've been trained and how to close up a bias professionally sierra you're going to lose that skier uh you know a protection uh unless you find about the market to do it for your sofa who knows how to do it um you know pulling if it's a gossip is pulling um you know the hello where the purchase going to in augusta are generally very narrow and the cheaper button is much more space you know where the parties i'm talking about the show rosh now not to show yeah the show was you have to fold it and you have to get into a narrow space now um pulling a parsha in and out of a tight spot yes could theoretically you know weaken the cell a little bit just opening and closing the parsha could weaken excel a little bit along the folds which obviously you're going to have to do to check them and then fold them back up and put them back in so yes it is conceivable that um that you might do you know it's not going to possibly phone but it's conceivable that it might uh it might weaken the parties a little bit as well so um that that's also a consideration so you know if you know your film came from uh very close to the source and you know today besides the regular ago checking that's that's done that you're also checked by computer uh computer checking is um is for the most part i think it's only been perfected with regard to the class of a yes sir that means um you know the correct spelling of the isis of the word you know no letters missing nobody switch and so on uh so uh although there are i think i think there are software software there is software available that's exposing checks for other things too like nikias and and tagging missing or whatever and i don't know how good they are but i'm sure at some point they'll probably be really perfected but the time being don't think if you come with it you get your phone with a sticker that they've been computer checked that only means that the computer it went through a scanning to check that everything is there nothing is missing uh for instance for correct or incorrect that's rest oasis problems um that you're trusting the decipher the idea you know to do that and so a computer check is something you should absolutely always have but but remember also that the computer is not gearing first of all there's always the element of human error even with computer i've gotten computer checked partially where i found those missing letters missing words whatever they put it in the wrong bag and put their own sticker on their own bag whatever you think there's always the element of human error but but just know that a sticker that that tells you that's on the on the phone or whatever that is your computer check only means that that this particular point that it was checked uh the cluster yesterday we checked nothing more than that and everything goes for the correct serious oasis you know you're relying on on the safer so yes you should make sure if you're ordering for your your banana aquila you should make sure to specify to your source wherever you're running from you know sofa in in the bigger city or or so for marriage to trail make sure to ascertain that that phone have the parshas have a computer check um but i think today it's pretty much automatic uh pretty much everybody has their i think the certain themselves before they give it out after they write it even though they're not selling it directly to the customer you know they they usually give it in to have a computer check that you know they don't want to have a partial day rule come back to them in a few years uh where there was a word missing you know and could have properly avoided that if you had a computer check um okay um so let's talk a few minutes about cepheid torah again if you start off in a small community small stellar chances are at least most of the secretary are going to be old uh pre-world war ii used sufficient terror i think with time passing though even even in these communities you know starting to get you know lucifer you know for when i started i would say the first 15 20 years or so um emotionals even here in baltimore bushels all they had was the old eastern european farm which when you know which were fixed fixed up whenever they need to be fixed they were faced but now today already many shows have often more than one sometimes a few uh you know eric destroyal dick is far you know written in more recent times um but the oldest farm um uh are unfortunately very often they need to uh people find regular balboa will find in a part of a noise you know chipped off of this or that so uh as as a rav you know you're going to be expected to fix it so you know i mentioned earlier about getting some sheamus and learning psoriasis at least you know on an elementary level um uh you need to learn how to handle the cold that's how to work with the coma it's really doesn't have to be done by comas but you know that's what we use today um you know to to to make tikkunim you know you're going to be expected to make these two um and um and uh i think that's part of yoshimish before you go out and get into raw bonus is to learn how to handle coolness and make corrections uh and and and all related how vocals doing et cetera et cetera um you should also learn how to do this virus you know the sewing it's not uncommon with these old europeans foreign that the fishing is tearing all over the place and that could present a local problem depending on how much is torn so you know it's not it's not a big concept for you to learn should always have a spool of piedum um the special stitching that we use to sew up the surfactar or twillion mcgill illust whatever and and you should learn and learn how to do it and be able to sew you know when necessary to fix it save it there you should also learn how to how to put on there are times when have to be replaced and so that's another thing that you should before you go out you should have this office show you how to properly sew on atek on the safety toyota um now again being that chances are that most of the time they're going to be using old safety tara you know what happens when in the middle of a aaliyah the curry stops and you he finds uh there's a letter there that's no good and you clearly know good part of the letter you know chipped off the clock it's no good so this is an area of aloha that you two will have to should master will have to master before you you go out uh simon kuffman gimbal it's kelly shane and misha brewer is where it is you know finding mistake inside korea and uh you should learn through that simmon um the two swarm that are earlier from that are most crucial for uh these knowing what type of mistake do you do you take out another say photo for what type you don't so the two mains from that that's important for you to have are uh sharia frame and adair hakayam um that's the bomb deceivers but those are two's form that i think you need to have you know as reference um there is actually a safer a contemporary safer it was written i think back in the 80s and i don't know if it's still available and it's called uh nymphs of the safety torah and i think the muhammad's name was steiner it looks shiner i i'm not saying this is the last word you know uh uh as far as pissing out lockers are concerned with these things but it's it's very misogynistic it has all the different serum you know and sheet is you know this this kind of a problem or that came from you take out another saboteur can you continue reading whatever but at least it's a good safer to have as reference and and it will come in handy you know when you want to look into yourself at least you'll have a picture of the problem and you'll have the mara mcqueen as you you know you want to be macri for yourself you'll have it all there but i don't know if that safe is still available but it's a good safer to have in your library as reference if you can get it um now uh you know a number of years ago uh yeshiva based managed gabo and lakewood decided to they had a belt of you olds for them and many of them it just wasn't it was so much work to get them fixed so uh what they did in the end was they actually sold this forum and with the funds that they sell their marijuana you know told this is what they should do and they sold it and they they bought one new or two new you know sufficient very modern dickey's farm so this is something you might want to consider doing um at that very same time uh ahri shiver naiso also i met the gravity newberg we talked about it and um here too as well had many many farms which which needed a lot of tequila and it was just wasn't to die so uh initially he was very receptive to it and then he decided no he can't do it why can't he do it because he knows in his position as manila yeshiva that from time to time the people who donated these front they come back here and they want to see their safety with the motto that they put on it you know in memory of what somebody in their family they come here and they want once they ask they make a request that they are going to be open they want to see that their turrets in there and assume it's being used so anybody said i just can't do it you can't do it because you know it's such a sensitive issue and uh and and he knows from his past experience that this thing can happen so nothing happened we just didn't do anything this farm is still there to this day i i think i fix one or two of them once upon a time but um i could tell you a mindset with a friend of mine it must be about 20 years ago he was a rob in the shoal in detroit someone that i looked incredible with and they had a bunch of oats farm and they also had one old safari sagittarius which we mentioned earlier you know that they have a different massage and it's in a lot of the tourist voices uh and then then the binationals have so they you know it was smart it was really for a smarty show and not not really roy for you know an ashkenaz show and they decided in the end to sell it and and that's what they sold the fuse form and uh you know they went out and bought a new safer sure enough within a few months of that of that of that this incident the family that had donated as far as ever came to his shop they wanted to see it and needless to say they were extremely upset okay so he knew how to handle the situation he knew how to talk to them you know and um you know after bottom line was that you know they they accepted it you know and uh you know and it was it was shown bites um but um it is a difficult sensitive situation and it's something that needs to be taken into consideration and it's something you know if you're confronted with it you'll talk it over with your own you know whatever our own uh mirror ban to decide what to do and these types of situations okay um and i'll leave up with just one other um one one other area to be wary of and um it's not uncommon that you will have fine traveling stories from coming in and out of various towns and they come in and they offered it to fix safety torah and very often they they will offer the shula deal you know we'll i'll fix two for free you know if you'll give me this one you know this kind of deal uh you know shul needs to be very cautious about those situations and um even if you know the deal sounds good and and reasonable to do um generally i i you know i'm not saying that i'm not generalizing saying every situation like that you know the person is out to help you you know or there's or be deceptive about what he really wants um i'm sure there are ones also but if you can't get any information about the person that you know the best thing is is just to be massage yourself from it and and and you know do it you know whatever if it's safer it needs to be sent back for fixing whatever and it's more difficult though but at least you know who you're sending it to that's really the best way to go about it and the safest way to go about it and i think that ends my talk and i wish you all brochbo sloka in the your endeavors and in rabonas and may you all be matzler us