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Symbolism and Watching our Words by Sylvie Schatz

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you know when we when we do the kidush when we do the kidush so it's very very interesting because um the blessing on the wine which usually in a meal we only say one time and even if the balab said it and we thought of being even if we drink wine afterwards we don't say the so suddenly we say the BR quite a few times so it's very different but if during the meal we eat we drink more wine which is not Kai because we have already four cups and it's a Mitzvah to eat most of the C to drink most of the cup so it's during the meal to drink water or something else and not wine but if you if you drink wine during the during the meal you don't make a br again but you say the K and then at the end of Magid you have a br at the end of the meal you have a br at the end of the a you have a br four cups it's the only time when it's can die to have cups that fit exactly the amount you want to drink which is a certain amount depending on your minhag if it's if it's ra whatever you ask you ask hband young son whoever you want but it's the only time that the MIT is not just to drink the amount but to drink R cost on shabas if you have a cup of soccer which contains five gallons you can make kidush on it and drink just the amount that you need I say on purpose a joke because it's huge but on P there beside the amounts there is a mitzah to drink the R cost the maximum part of the cup therefore if you have a smaller cup and it's enough then when you finish the cup you didn't drink more but if you have a very very big cup even if it's beautiful but you have a very big cup and you try to drink rough cost you won't manage to drink the four cups because it's too much so be careful to have cups which are big enough and not too big you understand it's the only time we have a MIT of R cost not just r r okay what is very very nice is um in the kidush itself we have um you know when I teach girls the as so I I always ask them all kinds of questions connected with SH why don't we say just Y and here too he doesn't just say he loves us he chose us he us from amongst the nations in other words the election of am Israel is something which we mention all the time because it's not just protea but it's uh an obligation the whole time to be an AM kadosh you chose us from the Nations because we have an obligation we have an we have a responsibility to be an amados and for example when we say you made that our language is a higher language than all the other languages and that's why you even have people it's so interesting hello joy and hello Miriam Brian are you were there from the beginning hello we hello hello means that you have to be aware that it's a different language than all other languages we have connected with languages for example we don't say shalom in the toilet or in the bathroom or in the washroom why because Shalom is one of the names of Hashem we don't say the name of Hashem there so when when you have some some sat some whatever they don't uh speak Hebrew they speak Yiddish or in the olden times Aramaic or I don't know what I don't think that was a reason for Aramaic but St it's even though we do speak Hebrew but we have to be careful that we don't just uh dirty our tongue with the language all this is from the beginning the first thing that we do is kidush kidush is a concept that we have to be madesh ourselves and on Leed it's very very fascinating because we are now getting out of the tumor of Egypt and we for the first time have to be worthy of having been um chosen from all the nations of having it's not stum it's not protea when AB ainu is chosen why is Hashem giving him 10 tests not because he doesn't know who is Aram but one of the reason is because when the Nations will hear that he passed all those tests they'll understand that it's not St protect I like this one more than the others it's because you proved yourself that you're above all the nations you get it and straight after he you elevated us above all languages you chose us from all the nations and you Sanctified us but you helped us not stum Sanctified you Sanctified us through your Commandments and you gave us and then on we say the are reminding us of events where Hashem showed that he loves us so it's fascinating it's fascinating okay and that's why at the end we say so with this I gave you a tiny bit an awareness that we don't just uh say with the balab the K without thinking already at the beginning we are bombarded with very deep ideas from the beginning okay um now this is one thing that I wanted to say if you have questions please ask me that's why we have that's why we have a a [Music] uh live live that you can stop me you can ask questions I don't have a question but I have comment my daughter speaks English in the bathroom to her children beautiful who is speaking I don't see Brianna or Bri Bri Brianna yeah my name is Brianna b r i a n Bri I know Bri that's why made a mistake Briana okay but it's a beautiful idea it's a beautiful idea because you have to be careful I told you once there was in B in Jerusalem uh an evening for many years they did it now they stopped doing it because they saw the people come less between Corona War money everything and now it's not there anymore it's a lot of places are making shim on on lar but against lar but there is a there is a beautiful time there was a beautiful time where by lovenstein um spoke about a very very beautiful idea and the idea was a concept that um that the same mouth that is going to say cannot be a mouth that has dirted itself so dirty oneself is L just a second I tell them to go less strong yeah thank you you uh you have you have L but you have as well to keep your tongue but you have as well dirty words Shem things that said in the wrong place and the wrong moment swearing swearing in vain uh saying bad words or something all this is connected with dirt in the mouth the same mouse that is going to say later on hasem help me open my mouth so that I can DAV you can't use it and he was giving an example which if you don't remember I can give you but which is very very famous okay so the you remember the example of the the tar of Russia that was eating french food no the tar of Russia was eating french food and it was so fantastic and it was kishka or something like that and he asked his uh man to uh ask for the recipe and he has the recipe and he did it and it was as bad as ever even worse so it happened a few times until they re ask the recipe and you have to take the membrane of the intestine of the animal and fill it with very good food with you know with eggs and with flour and with grease of the animal etc etc and it was still horrible So what had happened he had forgotten one little thing to wash that membrane of the intestine so the intestine was full of already already digested food but still in the stomach and on this he had added food so of course it was horrible so that was a nyell that if you have the dirt in your mouth you can't DAV me it has helped in L and in all kinds of Gossip in life just this example it's so horrible that you think to yourself twice okay but now we have a very interesting par which is the story of rabz RAB yua RAB elazar benar RAB AKA and RAB and they were sitting in Ben and they were speaking the and they were saying the because the only day we have a Mitzvah not just to remember Z which every morning all the things that we have to be Z now we are going to have this shabas Z that will be am but so we have uh we we we have a Mitzvah to remember the story of Egypt the yet MIT but here it's the the only one that not just remember but to tell the story on and on and on and on this is we don't have a Mitzvah to to to remember anything about Amal to tell the story of Amal we have a Mitzvah to remember to destroy that's but here until the the tamim came and said sorry and they knocked on the door and said and they said it's already time of kishma of the morning okay you remember this paragraph right so let's see just how fascinating it is how Torah puts people together I am very European I'm French in fact which is even specific in in the world of Europe in other words Switzerland and Belgium and T and ANP and sometimes the Manchester are more in common French are very different and I'm talking about the asheni French before is before politically all the the spim came to France now there are 85% or 90% of the French Jews but because a lot of the others have been destroyed by Thea or have moved to other countries and to AR Israel a lot after World War II but very very interesting how is it that I could marry an American it's such a different culture because the main culture of a Jew is a Torah and it puts people together and those five rabbis are so different from each other from such a different background that without the Torah they would not speak one word together I once read a gous story beautiful about two guys that in the Army become deep deep friends the father of one was a big Banker huge banker and the the father of the other one was a guy that that empty the garbage with a Tru and after the war they had promised each other they'll remain friends for a life time and they did not it was very very sad because life did it that they had totally different friends it didn't happen you understand hello fagy it happened it doesn't happen that usually perhaps in a story or an affair but not a marriage that is very rare that the daughter of the garbage collector should marry the son of the biggest Banker who is going to inherit a few Banks okay so this does doesn't happen it should not happen I don't know if it doesn't sometimes happen but in in honest people in good people it happens much less in the world of Torah let's see who they are rabi elzar he he's here only mention rabz but it's rabi elzar Ben henos who was the teacher of rabaka the re of RAB aiva and he was such a brilliant person that he had very different ideas than other people to a point that since the is in the G that in the end at the end of the day it goes according to the majority when he said but I am the right one and he did not bow down his head to go according to the majority because his geniusness made him realize that he's surely the right one in something in a so he was put to because you have to go according to the majority not today but in in the and for many reasons which are very clever and very psychological but this is was one of five boys the father was a wealthy Agriculture and raber had not learned till the age of 28 perhaps that's why he became the talid of rabaka he understood what rabaka went through but he and he wanted to learn for his father said it's much too late forget it if you didn't begin at three years old you won't make until rabz ran away learned by RAB yanan B Zak became the biggest of the biggest of the biggest his father at the end of his life came like kalbas sabua the father-in-law of RAB AKA came [Music] to didn't even know if he's alive anymore he wanted no relationship with him and his father-in-law came to give away the his inheritance and they asked rabak asked him what's the chat he said because I had a son but he went off the and rabab asked him and if he would have become a big Rabbi I would have been the happiest of men I would have given him everything you know etc etc and uh and at that moment he made rabar benos the father was called hos you see you see the the influence of Greeks and Romans already at that time m sounds Greek right and uh and he very very interesting and he uh was overwhelmed and then they made him realize that it's his son-in-law and he cried and he gave him everything you know rabi YF when he was young his parents didn't want him to marry who he married his father in was called ra Rabbi fatal and he was a much more simple Jew he was and he was a a religious person but he was much simpler than RAB had a genius brain but the father of RAF was selling vegetables in the market it's very very different okay it's very very funny so so um why did he want not want him to marry into Fat's family because they were poor and he was very poor at the beginning and at the end of his life when he became the chief Rabbi of Israel I don't think that he was missing anything I don't think he he did it because because of money or anything but RAB AKA or rabar Ben hos inherited very late in life whatever they had to get but they had proven that they can make it as well with nothing like it says in just a piece of bread and a little bit of water should should be enough it does not mean that a person has to do it and to sleep on the floor like it says it means that if that's the price you have to pay to be able to learn Torah you should do it but if you cannot do it of course not it's not very agreeable to eat only bread and never protein never anything and it's not very AG agreeable to sleep on the floor on tissue of Maximum but not all the time but it means that that should not be preventing you from learning Torah you understand the idea okay so RAB that's rabar benar who began late Raba you all know the story I don't have to speak about it Rabon was I'll tell you exactly who is Rabon um did I miss somebody ah I missed one before before rarar I have Rua and Rua his name his full name was rabi Yoshua benh he was a levite he was a Levi and he's as well one of the students of raban Ben Zak you know if you go to the C of RAB AKA inia so you have behind all kinds of tanim names of tanim and you have there Rak it's not famous because they're not sure that here is exactly the K so they put a few names of T and there with that this is where is RAB AA and next to him you know he's next to him who next to in inia who is next to rabaka the Raba is almost 2,000 years ago6 1,950 years ago and rabi and RAM who wasn't even in Israel so much is RAB no Ram isar and nothing to do it's end of the 17th century what's going on bizarre the time of the G so so what the connection so I once heard something beautiful he was 40 years old when he died and they put him next to Raba to be the 40 years that Raba didn't learn Tora yet because he began at the age of 40 it's a very interesting idea okay so he was one of the Disciples of raban yanan Ben zakai and usually in thear when there is a that he says and another Rabbi he's the one one does his yosua he's it's his um uh it's his uh opinion that takes that that is decided that is decided um he was very poor so already it's interesting because we have razar bazaria and RAB AKA who at the end of their lives are not poor he's very very poor he was working uh in making tools you know by by melting iron something very very hard we have a lot of those tanim we have them that fixed shoes we have those that wear you know in mythology vcan I don't know I don't know what it how do you call somebody who makes tools uh he has the he's a ra of most of the Canim of his generation then we have after R AA we have raar Raba then we have what I said Rabon and RAB is a kohen so you see RAB AA descends from go his father was a proelite and on the other hand Rabon is a Coen from the time of aronen and RAB Yoshua is a levie so you see Rabon was was already alive when the temple was still you see they says that raka you remember ra speaks to Raba and he doesn't want to learn Tora because the fact that they learn Torah did not prevent the destruction of the temple so Raba is really a generation after the destruction of the temple and Rabon is older and Rabon still as a very young one served in the beta mikdash and later on he was he worked with razar and RAB AKA a lot he's Rich he's a Coen and he's rich and one of the very famous students of Rabon is a very very poor man who was called rabi Yehuda bar Eli if you go not far fromat and somebody goes and davens at the C of rabi Yehuda Bari who were so poor that in his generation six people were under one pit which means that you had one blanket for many people so how was there enough so raos uh uh fle who passed away 10 years ago from the Mir the one that made out of me the biggest Yesa in the world little bit bigger than than the City of Lakewood in 7,000 people sitting and learning it's impressive there are there are shops around especially Food Shops or other things that close when there is B's money because they have nothing to do because the only people that buy is the yes when you have 7,000 clients you know you don't have to you can close when they're on holiday day during the summer the close and um why did I say this yeah he said how can a one blanket suffice for so many people and the answer is when everybody pushes toward himself there is never enough space but when everybody tries that the other one should be covered we find enough place for everybody and there is a famous story Ra was very very sick he had a very bad case of uh he was um how do you say no when you tremble help me you tremble so much that youson Parkinson thank you sometimes the work don't come out because I just give before in French and and this morning I was in a school in Hebrew so some sometimes I'm tired thank you so it worries me but what can I do meanwhile I continue h so it's very very interesting rabi ra ra no was refused medicine because he didn't want that it should blur his mind so he had a very clear mind but he was very impressive by the fact that he was so sick and a millionaire came and they showed him isir and then they brought him to r f it said it's it's brought up in his biography and he he they asked the man how many people do you think uh work in this establishment they showed him huge huge place so he said all 350 there must be 350 directors and under directors and vice directors and this and this and this and how many uh how much space for all the officers of all those people and he said a huge number Etc and they showed him that there were less than 20 people working to organize the whole y less than 20 people more than 7,000 people and as well and as well uh two or three rooms I mean for the officer I mean absolutely nothing and the man could not understand so he asked how can and he he gave an answer of that of that message like when everybody works for everybody else you know you don't work for the just the cab and everything you need much much less than the other things okay so that's a very very interesting thing this is um the story of the period of Ruda Bai ra himself was very poor and I was once at two or three in the morning at his C and I saw a bunch of people there with lists of people the people can't come at 2 or 3 in the morning there but there is a suula they say that if you your name is brought by the C it's aula not to be as poor as him to be a rich I don't know if Rich but not to be poor so I was wondering because thousands of people give their names so so what what's happening so I saw the guys that are in charge of doing it they have list of let's say 300 people they spend two hours there they say every name they just say the name and in the end they say it should be as G that they should have paros you understand so I was there for about two hours and there were about 10 people saying about 300 names by his C so if you give some money your name will be said by somebody at his C you understand so that's based that's uh that's the rabi is Rich and he's a teacher of rabi Yehuda Eli so we have all of them R yes so you see you have rich and poor kohen leev Isel and benim and they're all together and they all together and I wanted to know if benra is the same as today so I found that it's in the territory of Dan so if you it's more south if you have once a map with a division of the tribes for example in seph yosua or in some tanak you have it how was the conquest and everything it's situated in the territory of Dan it's brought in yosua perua divides the land according to the goral according to and it's not far from the B of today at the time it became very famous because Raba made Yesa there which is very very interesting as well okay and they were telling the story Anda andur is the same word MIM is to tell a story andur as well is a story okay but the fire is the same letters and they were speaking so much Torah that it was lighting the night as if it's day M saing you understand in know words meaning that they didn't need light at night Tor was the light the right before the next year and or say or is T because when you learn a lot so there is light in the room of course it's an idea it's not don't try it it won't work but you understand okay so this is one thing that I always like to say and then and then I'm skipping the one at this moment if we have more shim perhaps I'll do it the one which is really the explanation of a mishna which is rabar Ben aaria that the one that they wanted to make him nassi and he was 18 years old so he was too young so he had a miracle and in one night he had a white beard I have heard those things I have heard people doing such things you understand is it disturbing you lot of noise behind me is it disturbing you a lot not a lot but uh is there a way to get rid of it no because I don't have the place where I have a good uh where you hear me well is a kitchen and there is no door where I moved I'm to door and there is a whole group learning in the salon okay so well we'll live with it that's all so we are going to try to usually it's not at the same hour it's people from H and they want it specially so okay soar benar he made a whole whole um discussion when is a Mitzvah to learn and to to tell the story of P day and night and he goes into a whole thing of the mishna by the way he says I'm like somebody 70 years old which of course on a chat level means that he's very clever and he knows a lot but on a on a midash level that his beard became old in one shot in know words sometimes somebody that looks a little bit older than his age you know the joke a woman that is that has age is an old woman that's what she is an old woman a man yeah when he looks a little bit older he becomes a gentleman now he's now take people take him seriously okay isn't it sad it's a that's the way it is what can we do okay okay and now we have and this is introducing the four sons and the four son is fascinating that's fascinating okay so so the the four Sons is very very nice I'll finish a tiny bit earlier today exceptionally because of the people in the salon which I have to say goodbye to but we have the for one second I'll tell them to do to be a bit quieter okay so we have the four Sons so the four sons are fascinating um first of all first of all first of all we have to know where it comes from you see the Torah does not bring the story if you remember the whole Torah it does not bring the story of four Sons it does not so where do we have it from and now you'll understand what is z z is like a text already explained the text of the hag is an explanation we have four places in the Torah a different places which I'll give you which I'll tell you which is very very interesting where it says when your son will ask you or when your son will tell you or when your son doesn't say it just say your son it just says your son and one time it doesn't even say your son it just says you will tell your son so the balag who was a genius it was tanim most of them he says when your son will will say what kind of son can it be from the answer he's going to invent to make a per what kind of sun it should be you understand so the Torah just tells you tells you that there is a son that is asking you or whatever yeah and then and where is it and I'll tell you where it is okay it is in theim chapter 6 verse 20 and it says when your son will ask you and listen to the question what are those okay what are those UD comes from um to be to be testifying an Ed is a witness what are those Witnesses are those statutes which you don't know the reason this is a h we don't know the reason mishpatim is don't kill it's like any any court case any Court will say that when isn't allowed to kill or to steal or what what the world has yeah the seems to be which hem has ordered but it's more it's more because because we are going to say that I'll show you immediately commentaries um um comes from the word mitvah so what kind what is a mitvah it's a ter it's a certain type of mitv which are called Mitzvah in the Torah okay Hashem Hashem what are the laws which are connected with which is Hashem what are the laws which are connected with Elohim which is din etc etc so he's asking really three types of things so he can't be an an imbecil because it means he already knows at least that there are so many types of laws that there is something which is a h shates we don't know the reason uh Pig and U and and bass and halav and things like that and then you have things like M which everybody or which are signs Shabbat is an an is a sign that has created the world they have tried many times in history to change the number of days of the week because it doesn't fit a computer it's an odd number and it doesn't they never manag the very fact that in Hebrew it's called shavua which is the same letters as cheva which is seven it's fascinating they have never managed to change the num the numbers of days of the week which is a miracle because if they would have changed it would be even more difficult to live in Galo it's like that the weekend is a weekend but if it would be 10 days so one week you have to ask your boss to leave on Wednesday because it's chabas and one day on Thursday because it's chabas and one day on Monday because it's chabas because it would be 10 days and you could not survive you understand and you understand all these things so so the B is creating that it should be a and the same thing we have in shot chapter 12 verse 26 and you have when your son will ask you this is a quote in the paragraph what what what is his service that you are doing what is it for you if he's if he excludes himself is a rash I had one somebody that wanted to become Jewish but she never said we she always said how do you do those things even after she became because I was against it but I didn't it I am not a Bas de and they did she said what do you do she never said we it was such a sign she lost it she she had done it for political reasons only and I knew but they didn't listen to me it's a very fascinating story that once I can tell you I was forced to teach her she was a genius but she wasn't Jewish at all you understand because she said so that's it's a genius and what we'll do next time we will it's very very interesting we will um uh analyze if the answer that the B is giving is the same as the Torah when your son will ask you so here the B he says this must be this must be R but the answer won't always be the same the answer that the B will give is different answer than the answer that the Torah gives the third one is Tam what is the they usually translate naive but it means somebody without complications glat glater you know it's like no questions and he just says mazot what is it so it could be an imbecile or it could be somebody who says better not to ask too many questions than to just listen to God whatever so you call him a could be is which isov who not at all an inil or it could be somebody who doesn't have question and the most genius is the last one I would have made three SS because I find it the Tora three times that it says when your son will ask you at the first one it doesn't say when your son will ask you the four son it says and you will tell your son but but he never asked anything ah great I have a four son the one that doesn't know how to ask questions you get it how it's created it's brilliant so he is an explain he explains it already everybody understood me it's known but it's to repeat it and I think I will talk stop today just because because I'm so sorry but I have guests but I didn't want to skip the lesson so I gave them food and I went to teach but I want to be able to because they leaving Israel and I'll tell you next week when they're not around their story because it's fascinating very fascinating you can imagine and I have a lot of interesting stories in my life but the last one is called he doesn't even know to ask question and theat for example will say that every one of us has the four sons in us so it's it's a symbol it's not just four types of people but it's as well four generations which are different and it says well in the same person it's it's like some people have a beautiful explanation that every one of us has ra and a Leah in US etc etc you get it yes okay so so if you don't mind I'll stop for today with the 3/4 of an hour for once and