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Symbolism and Watching our Words by Sylvie Schatz
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you know when
we when we do the kidush when we do the
kidush so it's very very interesting
because
um the blessing on the wine which
usually in a meal we only say one time
and even if the balab said it and we
thought of being even if we drink wine
afterwards we don't say the so suddenly
we say the BR quite a few times so it's
very different but if during the meal we
eat we drink more wine which is not Kai
because we have already four cups and
it's a Mitzvah to eat most of the C to
drink most of the cup so it's during the
meal to drink water or something else
and not wine but if you if you drink
wine during
the during the meal you don't make a br
again but you say the K and then at the
end of Magid you have a br at the end of
the meal you have a br at the end of the
a you have a br four cups it's the only
time when it's can die to have cups that
fit exactly the amount you want to drink
which is a certain amount depending on
your minhag if it's if it's ra whatever
you ask you ask hband young son whoever
you want but it's the only time that the
MIT is not just to drink the amount but
to drink R cost on shabas if you have a
cup of soccer which contains five
gallons you can make kidush on it and
drink just the amount that you need I
say on purpose a joke because it's huge
but on P there beside the amounts there
is a mitzah to drink the R cost the
maximum part of the cup therefore if you
have a smaller cup and it's enough then
when you finish the cup you didn't drink
more but if you have a very very big cup
even if it's beautiful but you have a
very big cup and you try to drink rough
cost you won't manage to drink the four
cups because it's too much so be careful
to have cups which are big enough and
not too big you understand it's the only
time we have a MIT of R cost not just r
r
okay what is very very nice is
um in the kidush itself we have
um you know when I teach girls
the as so I I always ask them all kinds
of questions connected with
SH why don't we say just Y and here too
he doesn't just say he loves us he chose
us he us from amongst the nations in
other words the election of am Israel is
something which we mention all the time
because it's not just protea but it's uh
an
obligation the whole time to be an AM
kadosh you chose us from the Nations
because we have an obligation we have an
we have a responsibility to be an
amados and for example when we
say you made that our language is a
higher language than all the other
languages and that's why you even have
people it's so interesting hello joy and
hello Miriam Brian are you were there
from the beginning
hello we hello
hello
means that you have to be aware that
it's a different language than all other
languages we have connected with
languages for example we don't say
shalom in the toilet or in the bathroom
or in the washroom why because Shalom is
one of the names of Hashem we don't say
the name of Hashem there so when when
you have some some sat some whatever
they don't uh speak Hebrew they speak
Yiddish or in the olden times Aramaic or
I don't know what I don't think that was
a reason for Aramaic but St it's even
though we do speak Hebrew but we have to
be careful that we don't just uh dirty
our tongue with the language all this is
from the beginning the first thing that
we do is kidush kidush is a concept that
we have to be madesh ourselves and on
Leed it's very very fascinating because
we are now getting out of the tumor of
Egypt and we for the first time have to
be worthy of having been um chosen from
all the nations of having it's not stum
it's not protea when AB ainu is chosen
why is Hashem giving him 10 tests not
because he doesn't know who is Aram but
one of the reason is because when the
Nations will hear that he passed all
those tests they'll understand that it's
not St protect I like this one more than
the others it's because you proved
yourself that you're above all the
nations you get it
and straight after
he you elevated us above all languages
you chose us from all the nations and
you Sanctified us but you helped us not
stum Sanctified you Sanctified us
through your
Commandments and you gave us and then on
we
say the are reminding us of events where
Hashem showed that he loves us so it's
fascinating it's fascinating okay and
that's why at the end we
say so with this I gave you a tiny bit
an awareness that we don't just uh say
with the balab the K without thinking
already at the beginning we are
bombarded with very deep ideas from the
beginning
okay
um now this is one thing that I wanted
to say if you have questions please ask
me that's why we have that's why we have
a a
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uh live live that you can stop me you
can ask questions I don't have a
question but I have comment my daughter
speaks English in the bathroom to her
children beautiful who is speaking I
don't see
Brianna or Bri Bri Brianna yeah my name
is Brianna b r i a n Bri I know Bri
that's why made a mistake Briana okay
but it's a beautiful idea it's a
beautiful idea because you have to be
careful I told you once there was in B
in Jerusalem uh an evening for many
years they did it now they stopped doing
it because they saw the people come less
between Corona War money everything and
now it's not there anymore it's a lot of
places are making shim on on lar but
against lar but there is a there is a
beautiful time there was a beautiful
time where by
lovenstein um spoke about
a very very beautiful idea and the idea
was a concept that um that the same
mouth that is going to
say cannot be a mouth that has dirted
itself so dirty oneself is L just a
second I tell them to go less
strong yeah thank you you uh you have
you have L but you have as well to keep
your tongue but you have as well dirty
words Shem things that said in the wrong
place and the wrong moment swearing
swearing in vain uh saying bad words or
something all this is connected with
dirt in the mouth the same mouse that is
going to say later on
hasem help me open my mouth so that I
can DAV you can't use it and he was
giving an example which if you don't
remember I can give you but which is
very very
famous okay so the you remember the
example of the the tar of Russia that
was eating french
food no the tar of Russia was eating
french food and it was so fantastic and
it was kishka or something like that and
he asked his uh man to uh ask for the
recipe and he has the recipe and he did
it and it was as bad as ever even worse
so it happened a few times until they re
ask the recipe and you have to take the
membrane of the intestine of the animal
and fill it with very good food with you
know with eggs and with flour and with
grease of the animal etc etc and it was
still horrible So what had happened he
had forgotten one little thing to wash
that membrane of the intestine so the
intestine was full of already already
digested food but still in the stomach
and on this he had added food so of
course it was horrible so that was a
nyell that if you have the dirt in your
mouth you can't DAV me it has helped in
L and in all kinds of Gossip in life
just this example it's so horrible that
you think to yourself twice okay but now
we have a very interesting par
which
is the story of rabz RAB yua RAB elazar
benar RAB AKA and RAB and they were
sitting in Ben and they were speaking
the and they were saying
the because the only day we have a
Mitzvah not just to remember
Z which every morning all the things
that we have to be Z now we are going to
have this
shabas Z that will be am but so we have
uh we we we have a Mitzvah to remember
the story of Egypt the yet MIT but here
it's
the the only one that not just remember
but to tell the story on and on and on
and on this
is we don't have a Mitzvah to to to
remember anything about Amal to tell the
story of Amal we have a Mitzvah to
remember to destroy that's but
here until the the tamim came and said
sorry and they knocked on the door and
said and they said it's already time of
kishma of the morning okay you remember
this paragraph
right so let's see just how fascinating
it is how Torah puts people
together I am very European I'm French
in fact which is even specific in in the
world of Europe in other words
Switzerland and Belgium and T and ANP
and sometimes the Manchester are more in
common French are very different and I'm
talking about the asheni French before
is before politically all the the spim
came to France now there are 85% or 90%
of the French Jews but because a lot of
the others have been destroyed by Thea
or have moved to other countries and to
AR Israel a lot after World War II but
very very interesting how is it that I
could marry an American it's such a
different
culture because the main culture of a
Jew is a Torah and it puts people
together and those five rabbis are so
different from each other from such a
different background that without the
Torah they would not speak one word
together I once read a gous story
beautiful about two guys that in the
Army become deep deep friends the father
of one was a big Banker huge banker and
the the father of the other one was a
guy that that empty the garbage with a
Tru and after the war they had promised
each other they'll remain friends for a
life time and they did not it was very
very sad because life did it that they
had totally different friends it didn't
happen you understand hello fagy it
happened it doesn't happen that usually
perhaps in a story or an affair but not
a marriage that is very rare that the
daughter of the garbage collector should
marry the son of the biggest Banker who
is going to inherit a few
Banks okay so this does doesn't happen
it should not happen I don't know if it
doesn't sometimes happen but in in
honest people in good people it happens
much less in the world of Torah let's
see who they are rabi
elzar he he's here only mention rabz but
it's rabi elzar Ben henos who was the
teacher of rabaka the re of RAB aiva and
he was such a brilliant person that he
had very different ideas than other
people to a point that since the
is in the G that in the end at the end
of the day it goes according to the
majority when he said but I am the right
one and he did not bow down his head to
go according to the majority because his
geniusness made him realize that he's
surely the right one in something in a
so he was put
to because you have to go according to
the majority not
today but in in the and for many reasons
which are very clever and very
psychological but this
is was one of five boys the father was a
wealthy Agriculture and raber had not
learned till the age of 28 perhaps
that's why he became the talid of rabaka
he understood what rabaka went through
but he and he wanted to learn for his
father said it's much too late forget it
if you didn't begin at three years old
you won't make
until rabz ran away learned by RAB yanan
B Zak became the biggest of the biggest
of the biggest his father at the end of
his life came like kalbas sabua the
father-in-law of RAB AKA came
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to didn't even know if he's alive
anymore he wanted no relationship with
him and his father-in-law came to give
away the his inheritance and they asked
rabak asked him what's the chat he said
because I had a son but he went off the
and
rabab asked him and if he would have
become a big Rabbi I would have been the
happiest of men I would have given him
everything you know etc etc and uh and
at that moment he made rabar benos the
father was called hos you see you see
the the influence of Greeks and Romans
already at that time
m sounds
Greek right and uh and he very very
interesting and he uh was overwhelmed
and then they made him realize that it's
his son-in-law and he cried and he gave
him everything you know
rabi YF when he was young his parents
didn't want him to marry who he married
his father in was called ra Rabbi fatal
and he was a much more simple Jew he was
and he was a a religious person but he
was much simpler than RAB had a genius
brain but the father of RAF was selling
vegetables in the
market it's very very different okay
it's very very funny
so so um why did he want not want him to
marry into Fat's family because they
were poor and he was very poor at the
beginning and at the end of his life
when he became the chief Rabbi of Israel
I don't think that he was missing
anything I don't think he he did it
because because of money or anything but
RAB AKA or rabar Ben hos inherited very
late in life whatever they had to get
but they had proven that they can make
it as well with nothing like it says
in just a piece of bread and a little
bit of water should should be enough it
does not mean that a person has to do it
and to sleep on the floor like it says
it means that if that's the price you
have to pay to be able to learn Torah
you should do it but if you cannot do it
of course not it's not very agreeable to
eat only bread and never protein never
anything and it's not very AG agreeable
to sleep on the floor on tissue of
Maximum but not all the time but it
means that that should not be preventing
you from learning Torah you understand
the idea okay so RAB that's rabar benar
who began late Raba you all know the
story I don't have to speak about it
Rabon was I'll tell you exactly who is
Rabon
um did I miss
somebody ah I missed one before before
rarar I have Rua and
Rua his name his full name was rabi
Yoshua benh he was a levite he was a
Levi
and he's as well one of the students of
raban Ben Zak you know if you go to the
C of RAB AKA
inia so you have behind all kinds of
tanim names of tanim and you have there
Rak it's not famous because they're not
sure that here is exactly the K so they
put a few names of T and there with that
this is where is RAB AA and next to him
you know he's next to him who next to in
inia who is next to
rabaka the Raba is almost 2,000 years
ago6 1,950 years ago and rabi and RAM
who wasn't even in Israel so much
is
RAB
no Ram isar
and nothing to do it's end of the 17th
century what's going on bizarre the time
of the G so so what the connection so I
once heard something beautiful he was 40
years old when he died and they put him
next to Raba to be the 40 years that
Raba didn't learn Tora yet
because he began at the age of 40 it's a
very interesting
idea okay so he was one of the Disciples
of raban yanan Ben
zakai and usually in thear when there is
a that he says and another Rabbi he's
the one one does his yosua he's it's his
um uh it's his uh opinion that takes
that that is decided that is
decided
um he was very poor so already it's
interesting because we have razar
bazaria and RAB AKA who at the end of
their lives are not poor he's very very
poor he was working uh in making tools
you know by by melting iron something
very very hard we have a lot of those
tanim we have them that fixed shoes we
have those that wear
you know in mythology vcan I don't know
I don't know what it how do you call
somebody who makes
tools uh he has
the he's a ra of most of the Canim of
his generation then we have after R AA
we have raar Raba then we have what I
said Rabon and RAB is a kohen so you see
RAB AA descends from go his father was a
proelite and on the other hand Rabon is
a Coen from the time of
aronen and RAB Yoshua is a levie so you
see Rabon was was already alive when the
temple was still you see they says that
raka you remember ra speaks to Raba and
he doesn't want to learn Tora because
the fact that they learn Torah did not
prevent the destruction of the temple so
Raba is really a generation after the
destruction of the temple and Rabon is
older and Rabon still as a very young
one served in the beta
mikdash and later on he was he worked
with razar and RAB AKA a lot he's Rich
he's a Coen and he's
rich
and one of the very famous students of
Rabon is a very very poor man who was
called rabi Yehuda bar Eli if you go not
far fromat and somebody goes and davens
at the C of rabi Yehuda
Bari who were so poor that in his
generation six people were under one pit
which means that you had one blanket for
many people so how was there enough so
raos uh uh fle who passed away 10 years
ago from the Mir the one that made out
of me the biggest Yesa in the world
little bit bigger than than the City of
Lakewood in 7,000 people sitting and
learning it's impressive there are there
are shops around especially Food Shops
or other things that close when there is
B's money because they have nothing to
do because the only people that buy is
the yes when you have 7,000 clients you
know you don't have to you can close
when they're on holiday day during the
summer the close and
um why did I say this yeah he said how
can a one blanket suffice for so many
people and the answer is when everybody
pushes toward himself there is never
enough space but when everybody tries
that the other one should be covered we
find enough place for everybody and
there is a famous story
Ra was very very sick he had a very bad
case of uh he was
um how do you say no when you
tremble help
me you tremble so much that youson
Parkinson thank you sometimes the work
don't come out because I just give
before in French and and this morning I
was in a school in Hebrew so some
sometimes I'm tired thank you so it
worries me but what can I do meanwhile I
continue h so it's very very interesting
rabi
ra ra no was refused medicine because he
didn't want that it should blur his mind
so he had a very clear mind but he was
very impressive by the fact that he was
so sick and a millionaire came and they
showed him isir and then they brought
him to r f it said it's it's brought up
in his biography and he he they asked
the man how many people do you think uh
work in this establishment they showed
him huge huge place so he said all
350 there must be 350 directors and
under directors and vice directors and
this and this and this and how many uh
how much space for all the
officers of all those people and he said
a huge number Etc and they showed him
that there were less than 20 people
working to organize the whole y less
than 20 people more than 7,000 people
and as well and as well
uh two or three rooms I mean for the
officer I mean absolutely nothing and
the man could not understand so he asked
how can and he he gave an answer of that
of that message like when everybody
works for everybody else you know you
don't work for the just the cab and
everything you need much much less than
the other things okay so that's a very
very interesting thing this is
um the story of the period of Ruda Bai
ra himself was very poor and I was once
at two or three in the morning at his C
and I saw a bunch of people there with
lists of people the people can't come at
2 or 3 in the morning there but there is
a suula they say that if you your name
is brought by the C it's aula not to be
as poor as him to be a rich I don't know
if Rich but not to be poor so I was
wondering because thousands of people
give their names so so what what's
happening so I saw the guys that are in
charge of doing it they have list of
let's say 300 people they spend two
hours there they say every name they
just say the name and in the end they
say it should be as G that they should
have
paros you understand so I was there for
about two hours and there were about 10
people saying about 300 names by his C
so if you give some money your name will
be said by somebody at his C you
understand so that's based that's uh
that's the rabi is Rich and he's a
teacher of rabi Yehuda Eli so we have
all of them R yes so you see you have
rich and poor kohen leev Isel and benim
and they're all together and they all
together and I wanted to know if benra
is the same as today so I found that
it's in the territory of Dan so if you
it's more south if you have once a map
with a division of the tribes for
example in seph yosua or in some tanak
you have it how was the conquest and
everything it's situated in the
territory of Dan it's brought in yosua
perua divides the land according to the
goral according
to and it's not far from the B of
today at the time it became very famous
because Raba made Yesa there which is
very very interesting as well okay and
they were telling the
story
Anda andur is the same word MIM is to
tell a story andur as well is a story
okay but the fire is the same letters
and they were speaking so much Torah
that it was lighting the night as if
it's
day M saing you understand in know
words meaning that they didn't need
light at night Tor was the light
the
right before the next year and
or say or is T because when you learn a
lot so there is light in the room of
course it's an idea it's not don't try
it it won't work but you understand okay
so this is one thing that I always like
to say and then and then I'm skipping
the one at this moment if we have more
shim perhaps I'll do it the one which is
really the explanation of a mishna which
is rabar Ben aaria that the one that
they wanted to make him nassi and he was
18 years old so he was too young so he
had a miracle and in one night he had a
white beard I have heard those things I
have heard people doing such things you
understand is it disturbing you lot of
noise behind
me is it disturbing you a lot not a lot
but uh is there a way to get rid of it
no because I don't have the place where
I have a good uh where you hear me well
is a kitchen and there is no door where
I moved I'm to door and there is a whole
group learning in the salon okay so well
we'll live with it that's all so we are
going to try to usually it's not at the
same hour it's people from H and they
want it specially so okay
soar benar he made a whole whole
um discussion when is a Mitzvah to learn
and to to tell the story of P day and
night and he goes into a whole thing of
the mishna by the way he
says I'm like somebody 70 years old
which of course on a chat level means
that he's very clever and he knows a lot
but on a on a midash level that his
beard became old in one shot in know
words sometimes somebody that looks a
little bit older than his age you know
the joke a woman that is that has age is
an old woman that's what she is an old
woman a man yeah when he looks a little
bit older he becomes a gentleman now
he's now take people take him seriously
okay isn't it sad it's a that's the way
it is what can we do okay
okay and now we
have and this is introducing the four
sons and the four son is
fascinating that's fascinating okay so
so the the four
Sons is very very nice I'll finish a
tiny bit earlier today exceptionally
because of the people in the salon which
I have to say goodbye to but we have the
for
one second I'll tell them to do to be a
bit
quieter okay so we have the four Sons so
the four sons are
fascinating um
first of
all first of
all first of all we have to know where
it comes from you see the Torah does not
bring the story if you remember the
whole Torah it does not bring the story
of four Sons it does not so where do we
have it from and now you'll understand
what is z z is like a text already
explained the text of the hag is an
explanation we have four places in the
Torah a different places which I'll give
you which I'll tell you which is very
very interesting where it says when your
son will ask you or when your son will
tell you or when your son doesn't
say it just say your son it just says
your son and one time it doesn't even
say your son it just says you will tell
your son so the balag who was a genius
it was tanim most of them he says when
your son will will say what kind of son
can it be from the answer he's going to
invent to make a per what kind of sun it
should be you understand so the Torah
just tells you tells you that there is a
son that is asking
you or whatever yeah and then and where
is it and I'll tell you where it is
okay it is
in
theim chapter 6 verse
20 and it
says when your son will ask you and
listen to the question what are
those okay what are those UD comes from
um to be to be testifying an Ed is a
witness what are those
Witnesses are those statutes which you
don't know the reason this is a h we
don't know the reason mishpatim is don't
kill it's like any any court case any
Court will say that when isn't allowed
to kill or to steal or what what the
world has
yeah
the seems to be which hem has ordered
but it's more it's more because because
we are going to say that I'll show you
immediately commentaries um
um comes from the word mitvah so what
kind what is a mitvah it's a ter it's a
certain type of mitv which are called
Mitzvah in the Torah okay
Hashem
Hashem what are the laws which are
connected with which is Hashem what are
the laws which are connected with Elohim
which is din etc etc so he's asking
really three types of things so he can't
be an an imbecil because it means he
already knows at least that there are so
many types of laws that there is
something which is a h shates we don't
know the reason
uh Pig and U and and bass and halav and
things like that and then you have
things like M which everybody or which
are signs Shabbat is
an an is a sign that has created the
world they have tried many times in
history to change the number of days of
the week because it doesn't fit a
computer it's an odd number and it
doesn't they never manag the very fact
that in Hebrew it's called shavua which
is the same letters as
cheva which is seven it's
fascinating they have never managed to
change the num the numbers of days of
the week which is a miracle because if
they would have changed it would be even
more difficult to live in Galo it's like
that the weekend is a weekend but if it
would be 10 days so one week you have to
ask your boss
to leave on Wednesday because it's
chabas and one day on Thursday because
it's chabas and one day on Monday
because it's chabas because it would be
10 days and you could not survive you
understand and you understand all these
things so so the B is creating that it
should be
a and the same thing we have in shot
chapter 12 verse
26 and you have when your son will ask
you this is a quote in the paragraph
what what what is his service that you
are doing what is it for
you if he's if he excludes himself is a
rash I had one somebody that wanted to
become Jewish but she never said we she
always said how do you do those things
even after she became because I was
against it but I didn't it I am not a
Bas de and they did she said what do you
do she never said we it was such a sign
she lost it she she had done it for
political reasons only and I knew but
they didn't listen to me it's a very
fascinating story that once I can tell
you I was forced to teach her she was a
genius but she wasn't Jewish at all you
understand because she
said so that's it's a genius and what
we'll do next time we will it's very
very interesting we
will um uh analyze if the answer that
the B is giving is the same as the Torah
when your son will ask you so here the B
he says this must be this must be R but
the answer won't always be the same the
answer that the B will give is different
answer than the answer that the Torah
gives the third one is Tam what is the
they usually translate naive but it
means somebody without complications
glat glater you know it's like no
questions and he just says mazot what is
it so it could be an
imbecile or it could be somebody who
says better not to ask too many
questions than to just listen to God
whatever so you call him a could be
is which isov who not at all an inil or
it could be somebody who doesn't have
question and the most genius is the last
one I would have made three SS because I
find it the Tora three times that it
says when your son will ask you at the
first one it doesn't say when your son
will ask you the four son it says and
you will tell your
son but but he never asked anything ah
great I have a four son the one that
doesn't know how to ask questions you
get it how it's created it's brilliant
so he is an explain he explains it
already everybody understood me it's
known but it's to repeat it and I think
I will talk stop today just because
because I'm so sorry but I have guests
but I didn't want to skip the lesson so
I gave them food and I went to teach but
I want to be able to because they
leaving Israel and I'll tell you next
week when they're not around their story
because it's fascinating very
fascinating you can
imagine and I have a lot of interesting
stories in my life but the last one is
called he doesn't even know to ask
question and theat for example will say
that every one of us has the four sons
in us so it's it's a symbol it's not
just four types of people but it's as
well four generations which are
different and it says well in the same
person it's it's like some people have a
beautiful explanation that every one of
us has ra and a Leah in US etc etc you
get it yes okay so so if you don't mind
I'll stop for today with the 3/4 of an
hour for once and