The Amazing Ruling of Rebbi Akiva Eiger If One Forgot Mashiv Haruach on Friday Night

Okay, good morning everyone. Baruch Hashem Adonai. I'm going to start. I'm just going to go straight into the shaila and then I'm going to tell you where it comes from. There is a Everybody knows mashiv haruach umatar hagashem. Once you start saying it, it's critical. If you don't say it, you have to repeat shmoneh esrei. The Biur Halacha in Siman kuf yud daled seif daled quotes a psak of Chidushei Rabbi Akiva Eiger. Everybody knows any day you learn Rabbi Akiva Eiger is a good day. Yeah, it's it's You still say tachnun. You know, even though we're learning Rabbi Akiva Eiger, even though it's seventh day of the sheva brachos, we're still going to say tachnun. I'm going to come to how I know this shaila soon. Rabbi Akiva Eiger has the following amazing chiddush. Friday night, if you forget mashiv haruach umatar hagashem, perhaps you do not repeat shmoneh esrei. Pele. It's a pele. Right? By the way, you need to try to remember mashiv haruach umatar hagashem. Cuz you could have a whole shmoneh esrei. You could get up to, you know, oseh shalom and you realize, oy vay, I just had a long shmoneh esrei. I was mar chazain. I was had all these holy kavanos. I I was rectifying all the ilamos. I just forgot to say mashiv haruach umatar hagashem. So, it's very important to say it. When you say the words Hashem sefasai tiftach ufi yagid tehilasecha, that's a tefila to be able to davven properly. Part of the tefila is, Ribono shel Olam, help me remember to say what I need to say. If I need to say ya'aleh ve'yavo, if I need to say mashiv haruach, if I need to say whatever I need to say, Hashem, please help me say it. Says Rabbi Akiva Eiger, Friday night, if you forget mashiv haruach, you don't have to go back. What? What's special about Friday night? Diloy garah, it's not any worse But bedi'eved, Friday night, if you just say Baruch Ata Hashem Elokeinu v'Elokei avoseinu, Elokei Avraham, Elokei Yitzchak v'Elokei Yaakov, >> If you say a main shower. You know that how I look at her? If let's say you don't have a marv and you just say Friday night main shower. You're your ex say. And do you say master of my name? Do you say No. Does it say in the sitter you know the you should add master of my name into the Barack we know that you would say it says how my luck I got a dish in come my yo and there's a shower in the person if you forget how my luck in Barack my name shower do you have to go back or not but nobody ever says you should say master of my name shower therefore Friday night Rabbi Kiva is to say you do not repeat say and he ends off him. So that an amazing wedding this week I was at the wedding of a Romney partner. Ben Rabbi Yossi Yitzchak. Rabbi Yitzchak Yossi. Eventually when by the time you marry your last kid but as I said I'm going to get down the name. Rabbi Yitzchak Yossi partner. I was at the wedding and I was sitting at the hopper. And mom is beautiful hopper I was sitting next to Rabbi Yossi Sprung. And then at the at the meal I was also sitting next to Rabbi Yossi Sprung. Now it's time it's a very important thing. When you go to a wedding make sure you sit next to a time of come. If you're at a table and they're speaking about the Rabbi you should run away run run for your life cuz you can get caught up in the Russian horror. It could ruin your life. Run from the table. Now if let's say they're talking about cars also get out of there. Figure out a different place to go. Go take out your phone, okay? Go do whatever you need to do. Get out of there. Go find your put park yourself next to a time of Hanukkah and listen to what they're talking about. Anyway, so I had this sit next to Sprung, who's the Rav in Shaare Zedek. Stop. He told me very interesting shaila. Say a good shaila? So in Shaare Zedek, you know, he's he's uh servicing the patients and the guests, people who are visiting sick people in the hospital. So it's Rosh Hashanah and they're blowing tekiahs first they blow before shmoneh esrei and then they blow during uh chazarat hashats. Okay, fine. But the the rule the protocol at this at this minyan is you have people coming and going. You have some people they can only stay for 5 minutes, 10 minutes. You have guests, you have visitors. So the protocol is when you come into the shul for musaf, just make a and they could be blowing before shmoneh esrei, they could be blowing during chazarat hashats. Just make a bra and you may have missed the bracha on the tekiah shofar. And you're only going to hear let's say 30 tekiahs. But you're going to hear the tekiahs, you may not make a bracha. You may not have heard the bracha. So whenever you come, before you hear the tekiahs, just make the bracha asher kidishanu mitzvotav vitzivanu lishmoa kol shofar. Fine. So, you know, they're getting ready for one of the sets of the tekiahs and he [snorts] like, you know, he notices somebody's like inching toward him and the guy shows him he's in middle of shmoneh esrei. The thing is he didn't hear the tekiahs yet and they're about to blow and he's motioning should he make a bracha on the shofar in middle of his silent shmoneh esrei. That was the shaila. So what would you say? >> Yes. >> At first glance I I would have thought no, you can't make a bracha on the shofar in middle of shmoneh esrei. It's it's a hefsek. That's what I have thought. So, he says that um Rav Nissim Karelitz writes, like Dr. Bein Pas Kains, you need to make a bracha. You need to make a bracha. >> Why would it be any different than hearing the shofar in the middle of a silent shmona esrei? >> Hearing, you're not you're [clears throat] not speaking. You >> But it's still a hefsek. >> Okay, it's like it's like um you're allowed to It's like listening to kedusha where you sort of Tosafos holds you you could have your cake and eat it. It's considered like you said it, shomeya k'oneh like you said it, but not like it's a hefsek. By the way, to you know, from that Tosafos actually it's mashma to me that you would not be allowed to say the bracha because to you you know, it's like you get Rashi and Tosafos how shomeya k'oneh works, but Tosafos says it seems that you could have your cake and eat it. You could use shomeya k'oneh to get credit for the kaddish, but it won't be a hefsek. But that What's the halacha? So, this is what Rav Nissim Karelitz says. What What's the halacha if you're a kohen? And the shul only has one kohen to duchan. Often a shul would only have one kohen to duchan. Do you know that if only one kohen duchen's, the birkas kohanim is only mid'rabbanan. You need two kohanim to make it birkas kohanim d'oraisa. So, let's say if there are two kohanim who are duchaning and a third kohen is in the middle of shmona esrei, he doesn't stop his shmona esrei to go and duchan cuz the shul is already serviced without him. But if there's only one kohen to duchan, what if the other kohen is in the middle of shmona esrei? The halacha is he makes the bracha asher kid'shanu b'mitzvotav v'tzivanu l'varech es amo Yisrael b'ahava. >> Does he go up to >> I don't remember. But he he it's permitted for him to say a bracha on the birkas kohanim. So, Rav Nissim Karelitz said that making a bracha on the shofar is not any different than the kohanim making a bracha on birkas kohanim. So, Rabbi Sprung said he asked Rav Asher Weiss. Rav Asher Weiss said in a heartbeat. Why is it any different than you know that you could make a anyway so he brought to my attention talk of askance Friday night. If you forgot master you do not go back. Why it's it's not any worse than if you would have. It's not any worse than if you would have said may okay. Yeah, you you do not go back Friday night cuz it's not any worse than if you would have. Davin may so let's examine that for a moment the of the Shiva. Is the final in summer house. The house is like this. If Friday night you and say. Or let's say you didn't matter of at all. And you hear the fever say you're saying. So what the implies. That you can't say it yourself. It's just if you heard the fever say my you heard from the beginning to end because the fever doesn't even say the fever here's the first part and then the fever responds the second part and then the says the second part the fever says that if you didn't have a Friday night or if you have a day and you hear the fever you could be with the fever why. No you you're hearing the house and say but I got to ask him what I can and then you're saying my advice. From the fever that's also okay, but the question is why in the world does work. So the mission to feel us office with cuz is not obligatory. So, we're lenient. Now, this is the most misunderstood Halacha. Mariv is Reshus. You don't have to Daven Mariv. Toises and Bracha says, Mariv Reshus means that if a different Mitzvah comes your way that if you don't do that Mitzvah you're going to lose out on it, then you could choose the other Mitzvah and not Daven Mariv. It doesn't mean that on a any given night you could say, "You know what? Tonight it's Monday night. Monday night football. Okay, Mariv Reshus." No, Mariv Reshus means if in if you have another Mitzvah, you could choose the other Mitzvah and instead of Mariv. That's Toises. And the Rambam adds and Toises adds that we've already accepted upon ourselves Mariv as a Chova. So, two things. Mariv Reshus only meant vis-a-vis another Mitzvah, and we already accepted it as a Chova. But, nevertheless, there is still this leniency. What's the leniency? That you could be Yotzei with Bracha Achas Me'ein Sheva from the Shliach Tzibur. Not not if Okay, fine. Now, [snorts] >> You also don't go back for Ya'aleh V'Yavo in Mariv. >> One one sec. One sec. That's that's a different reason. We're going to We're going to We're not going to even get to that. Fine. Now, the Mishna Berurah adds, L'chatchila, you should say Mila B'Mila with the Shliach Tzibur from the beginning, Baruch Ata Hashem Elokeinu Elokei Avoseinu Elokei Avraham Now, what if the Shliach Tzibur already said Bracha Achas Me'ein Sheva and you realized you didn't Dav- You realized you Davened the weekday Shmoneh Esrei or you didn't Daven Mariv, then you got to go back and Daven again. Could you now say, "Well, I I wasn't paying attention to the Shliach Tzibur or I left the Shul for Bracha Achas Me'ein Sheva. I'll say Bracha Achas Me'ein Sheva." Can an individual say Bracha Achas Me'ein Sheva? No. Mishna Berurah says, "Loy Yomar B'Yachid Bracha Achas Me'ein Sheva." >> Shabbat. Let's say you remembered you didn't daven before the Shliach Tzibbur says Bracha Achat Me'ein Sheva. Could you now say, "You know what? I'll rely on hearing Bracha Achat Me'ein Sheva?" No. It's only if you realized >> [clears throat] >> It's only if you realized that you didn't daven after you heard Bracha Achat Me'ein Sheva, you're yotzei. Okay. So, listen carefully. So, Rebbi Akiva Eiger's paskening that on Friday night, if you forgot Mashiv Haruach U'Matir Hagasham, you do not have to repeat Shemoneh Esrei. Okay? One more thing. Comes the Biur Halacha and the Biur Halacha says, "Even though a yachid shouldn't say Bracha Achat Me'ein Sheva, what if a yachid did say Bracha Achat Me'ein Sheva? Are you yotzei?" In other words, you daven a weekday Shemoneh Esrei and you said, "You know what? I'm just going to say Bracha Achat Me'ein Sheva." Does it work b'di aved? The Biur Halacha says, the Magen Avraham says, "You're yotzei b'di aved." Says the Mishna Berurah, "Why didn't I put the Magen Avraham in the Mishna Berurah? Cuz the Elyah Rabbah argues and he says, 'You're not yotzei b'di aved if you say Bracha Achat Me'ein Sheva instead of Shemoneh Esrei as a yachid, okay?" So, again, the Mechaber paskens that if you don't daven Maariv Friday night and you hear from the Shliach Tzibbur, you're yotzei. Could you say it b'di aved? The Mishna Berurah says, "No." What if you did? The Magen Avraham says, "Yotzei." The Elyah Rabbah says, "You're not yotzei." So, now let's come to the psak of Rebbi Akiva Eiger. It's Friday night. You're still you haven't yet said Mashiv Haruach U'Matir Hagasham 90 times or 100 times. By the way, I have in the Ezras Torah calendar, he says, "You should say Mechalkel Chaim B'Chesed, Mechayei Meisim." Um you should say You should say it 100 times. This way, if you're not sure if you said it, you could assume you said it. And that it's not only if the 100 is passed, you could assume you said it. You should proactively say it so you don't get yourself into hot water. Or yeah? Anyway, in some issues they have a song on some I don't I never learned the tune. What's the tune? Oh no, that that wasn't the original tune. But there was there's some tune that I don't I never I never picked up on. Yeah? That that's it? They did but but no There's a question if that's going to work because you have to say the matter um I'm up to three. Yeah? So anyway, Friday night says you don't have to repeat the matter. So mentioned that it's very hard to understand the it's true that if you hear but in shava you that's because the of that formula did not include but when you say did require you to say it. So I want to discuss this mostly because I want you to have a good day. There's an amazing um The is found in the safe air that's Torah. And the Marsha is says as follows. This is from the safer Das Torah of the Marsha Siman Resh Daled Mem Ches. That Rabbi Akiva Eiger's psak is going according to the Magen Avraham. What does that mean it's going according to the Magen Avraham? You know Rabbi Akiva Eiger means that Friday night if you forgot Mashiv Haruach U'Moreed you don't have to repeat Shmoneh Esrei, he means if you forgot Mashiv Haruach U'Moreed and then you went ahead and you said as an individual Baruch Ata Hashem Elokeinu Elokei Avraham Elokei Yitzchak V'Elokei Yaakov okay Magen Avraham is you said Bracha Achat Me'ein Sheva. That's what Rabbi Akiva Eiger means. Rabbi Akiva Eiger doesn't mean anything more than relying on the psak of the Magen Avraham. The Magen Avraham says if you didn't daven Maariv Friday night and you said Bracha Achat Me'ein Sheva you're yotzei. So what Rabbi Akiva Eiger means is if you forgot Mashiv Haruach U'Moreed and you say Bracha Achat Me'ein Sheva you'll be yotzei. But says the Marsha according to the Eliyahu Rabbah that if you forgot Shmoneh Esrei you didn't say Shmoneh Esrei you said a Shmoneh Esrei you went ahead and you said Bracha Achat Me'ein Sheva the Eliyahu Rabbah says you're not yotzei. Then Rabbi Akiva Eiger's psak won't stand. So even though the Biur Halacha does bring this down that if you forget it Friday night you don't have to repeat Shmoneh Esrei. Now that's only going according to the Magen Avraham we don't really pasken like the Magen Avraham. Now to tell you the truth I don't understand how the Marsha could understand Rabbi Akiva Eiger this way. That's not what Rabbi Akiva Eiger says that we're talking about a guy who went ahead and said it. First of all the lashon of Rabbi Akiva Eiger in the Biur Halacha is Ein Machzirin Diloy Garami Bala Rach now Maybe you could construe that meant this. The words the may it will be not it won't be worse than if you would have said may that you're the other. So the learns from that the word means is therefore just like if I would have said it I'm the other. So too if I say it I'm the other. No, that's not what means. has a different understanding of the other. understands the other that it's not hinged on the of opinion. It's even a point to the that if you said it as an individual yourself you're not but what would the been if you heard it? The says if you didn't you heard question What do you mean you're the other? But there's no in the what does that indicate? That indicates that is not critical in the other. Friday night that it's not critical in Friday night. So says the doesn't mean to hinge his on the of the of that if you do say it you're the other and it would come out then that according to the other that if you do say it you're not the other of that would not stand. No. What means is the fact that hearing in you're the other that's that is not at least on a Friday night. By the way, it's interesting why would it only not be on a Friday night? Again, the says the reason why you could be with in the other is cuz it feels it shows. But apparently you could only rely on it on a Friday night because only on Friday night were they masikim main shabbos. They were not masikim main shabbos any other night. Okay, so there are two ways in the of how to understand Rebbe Akiva Eiger. Does Rebbe Akiva Eiger mean to hinge his psak on the psak of the Magen Avraham that if you do say main shabbos, you're you're you're yoitzei b'dieved? Or it has nothing to do with you having to say main shabbos? It's just showing that it's not critical Friday night. Okay. By the way, according to everyone, if you forgot Friday night and you heard main shabbos, you don't have to repeat the Shmoneh Esrei. Is that true? Would Rebbe Akiva Eiger say that's true? Yes. Rebbe Akiva Eiger was just saying you don't even have to hear it. Right? In other words, like this. Here's the nafka mina, very big nafka mina between the Maharsham and Rebbe Akiva Eiger. If a guy forgot Friday night, so according to the Maharsham, if you did say main shabbos, you would be yoitzei. If you didn't say it, he would say you need to repeat the Shmoneh Esrei. According to Rebbe Akiva Eiger, let's say you're davening b'yichidus Friday night and you're not even in a makom where they're going to say main shabbos and you forgot Friday night, you do not have to repeat the Shmoneh Esrei. That's a a major nafka mina between the Maharsham's understanding Rebbe Akiva Eiger and Rebbe Akiva Eiger. According to Rebbe Akiva Eiger, it's not because you said it, it's not because you heard it, it's because Friday night is not critical on a Friday night. And according to the Maharsham, no, it's not that it's not it's but you have to actively say Baruch atah Adonai Eloheinu melech ha'olam Now, it's Shabbos Chol HaMoed. This happens all the time. Shabbos Chol HaMoed Friday night. What Shmoneh Esrei do you daven? Shabbos. And you know, >> [clears throat] >> even though only one out of 100 people will admit they forgot Ya'aleh v'Yavo. I would assume it's a higher percentage that forgot the Ya'aleh v'Yavo. What would Rabbi Akiva Eiger say? Do you have to repeat Shmoneh Esrei? Friday night. Right? Normally, if on a regular Chol HaMoed you forget Ya'aleh v'Yavo, do you repeat Shmoneh Esrei at night? Yes. Only on Rosh Chodesh if you forget at night you don't repeat Shmoneh Esrei. But on Yom Tov, if you forgot Ya'aleh v'Yavo you do. What would Rabbi Akiva Eiger say if you forgot Ya'aleh v'Yavo Friday night Chol HaMoed? Ah, very good. So let's see. Let's see. According What would the Maharsham say Rabbi Akiva Eiger would say? If you say Baruch atah Adonai Eloheinu melech ha'olam then you don't have to repeat Shmoneh Esrei. Yeah? If you say Baruch atah Adonai Eloheinu melech ha'olam you have to repeat Shmoneh Esrei. Says Rav Zalman, Rabbi Akiva Yeah, Rabbi Akiva Eiger would say you absolutely must repeat Shmoneh Esrei. Why? There's another Be'er Halacha. The Be'er Halacha says the din of the Mechaber that if you forget that if you daven the weekday Shmoneh Esrei on Friday night, you could be yoitzeh with Baruch atah Adonai Eloheinu melech ha'olam, that's only Friday night. But if it's Yom Tov, you're not yoitzeh with Baruch atah Adonai Eloheinu melech ha'olam. Why? Cuz there's no Ya'aleh v'Yavo here. it. So, wait a second. So, but how will differentiate between and why why does how could derive from in Shabbat that is not critical on Friday night. Why doesn't he also derive that is not critical at night? So, it says that's because like this. every single Friday night Now, on most Friday nights you need to say it must be is not critical on Friday night. However, that doesn't show that is not critical. Because we're uniformly to say every Friday night. It happens to be it doesn't really work on it. Because there's no there's no there's no mention of it. The only thing is what are they going to say? Don't say it? They wanted it to be uniform for every Friday night. But really is is deficient for a it. It doesn't really work. It doesn't really work. That means But we say it anyway. >> It's very it's that's not to me because you see during during the holidays right? Technically say holidays Friday night but they will protect you. >> We're going to come now to we're going to come next up to it. says And by the way, in the brings also says that if you forgot on you can't you can't be with with Shabbat cuz there's no so it seems like we Mashiv Haruach U'Morid Hagasham, we could glean from the fact that we say it every Friday night that that that it's not critical. But, Kuntres Shulchan you can glean from the fact that you don't say any Ya'aleh V'Yavo in in Me'ein Sheva that Ya'aleh V'Yavo is not critical. They were never mesaken Birkat HaGomel Me'ein Sheva for Leil Yom Tov. They're only mesaken it for Shabbos. It's just they don't want to make a shinui from other Shabbos places. Ah, so Yossi's saying, "Wait a second. So, what would the halacha be if you forgot HaMelech HaKadosh Friday night of Aseret Yemei Teshuvah? Could you be yoitze with Me'ein Sheva?" >> And there you're mentioning HaMelech. >> So, says the Shevet HaLevi, then you can't be yoitze. Then, you can't. You can't. Not not could be you be yoitze. Would Rabbi Akiva Eiger say you're yoitze the Shmoneh Esrei? Meaning, we're in we're in now Rabbi Yishmael's understanding of Rabbi Akiva Eiger that it's not that you need to say it or you need to hear it. It's that the fact that you don't normally say it in Me'ein Sheva, that shows it's not critical. In other words, what's the halacha if you forget HaMelech HaKadosh Friday night? Could you say, "I'm not going back. The the harayah, we don't say it in Birkat HaGomel Me'ein Sheva." No, cuz we do say it. We do say it. Now, what would the halacha be if you didn't say it in Me'ein Sheva? So, that's a machlokes acharonim. If the chazzan forgets HaMelech HaKadosh whether he has to repeat again the Birkat HaGomel Me'ein Sheva. But, says the Shevet HaLevi, if you forgot HaMelech HaKadosh Friday night, you would have to go back. So, what do you want to say? That shows that >> It doesn't say on Yom Tov. The Ya'aleh V'Yavo. >> Oh, is that? >> It's not a Yekum Purkan. >> No, so you know what it shows? It shows that the way they were mesaken Birkat HaGomel Me'ein Sheva is that it has to be good good enough for Shabbos. Good enough for Shabbos means it's good enough for the week and it's good enough for Shabbos. So it has a Melacha Kedusha and it has all the Shabbos things, but they never made it that it's good they never tried to make it that it's good enough for Yom Tov. It never covered Yom Tov. It's not a Yom Tov Tikka addition. So why do we say it for So why don't we drop it? They didn't want to make a Shinui. Even though L'maaseh we drop In Ashkenaz we drop everything Friday night, you know, there's not Ashkenaz Shabbos Chol HaMoed is the most relaxing night. It's It's shorter than a weekday Maariv. There's nothing. [music] You know, Mishebeirach what's Kabbalas Shabbos? I have all these what whenever people come here they know they they they don't have Nusach Sefard. They're like they're like all disappointed. Like what happened? No Nusach Sefard. It's a very It's a very inspiring Kabbalas Shabbos cuz they basically they do the they do the end of the the Lecha Dodi, yeah. By Ashkenaz it's Shish Ulem B'veit Hashem B'chatzrot Elokeinu Yafrichu. Okay. Anyway, >> Does Rabbi Yosef actually say that you have to hear the last Bracha? >> No. >> How can you infer that you have to hear it at all? >> Quite Rabbi Yosef learns in Rabbi Akiva Eiger that since in Me'ein Sheva there's no mention Mashehu Yagish that indicates Mashehu Yagish is not critical Friday night and therefore if you missed it, you don't repeat Mashehu even if you don't hear Me'ein Sheva. >> Even if you don't hear it. >> Yeah, that's what Rabbi Yosef. To From the Marsham it's Mashehu. You need to hear it or you need to say it. It's not so clear. Okay, that's this subject. I thought it was a very interesting subject. That >> you say >> Halacha L'maaseh Halacha L'maaseh if you forget Mashehu Yagish on Friday night you don't repeat Mashehu. You don't >> But what's the deeper reason why Mashehu Yagish is not said at all on Friday >> You you to know? >> Even when you're not supposed to say Mashiach Hashem will give rain on Friday night. In general. >> You want to know what's a deeper reason of why rain is not critical Friday night? >> In general. Exactly. Meaning why in the main room? >> Maybe because you know the Gmara says a Friday night rain is Gishmei Bracha. >> Exactly. So so even when times when you won't say Mashiach we're hoping Hashem's going to it's going to rain anyway. So you don't need to ask for it in there. >> I don't know. I don't know. Okay, that's a Lema'aseh Rebbe it's brought in the Be'er Halacha and the Lashon of the Be'er Halacha is Rebbe Akiva Eiger is Metzadid Lomar. It's almost like yeah, for sure Safek Bracha is a Halacha but it almost it seems like he's inclined to say you don't have to repeat Shmone Esrei. Okay, I want to tell you something on Rebbe Meir Shapiro. One more thing. Let's say you forgot Mashiv Haruach U'Morid Hagasham and you're Davening in a Beis Hakneses but in a Beis Hakneses they were not Masikin Bracha Me'ein Sheva or in a transition Minyan, you know, a transient Minyan. They're not Masikin Bracha Me'ein Sheva. So maybe then also what would the Halacha be if you forgot Mashiv Haruach U'Morid Hagasham? Then the depends on the Maharsham and and Rebbe Yeshaya. According to the Maharsham it's dependent on you saying it or hearing it. For sure not. What about according to Rebbe Akiva Eiger? Could you say, well they weren't Masikin Me'ein Sheva here so then I can't get away without saying Mashiv Haruach U'Morid Hagasham. Okay, I saw in the Dirshu they bring down >> But if >> that if >> you say it and say the the whole Shmone Esrei with Mashiv Haruach and you're not supposed to, is that a Bracha Levatala or are you good at it? >> Second. Im Shachach Morid Hagasham says Rebbe Zalman Auerbach according to Rebbe Akiva Eiger you're still Yotzei. Why? Because we see from Me'ein Sheva that Friday night Mashiv Haruach U'Morid Hagasham is not critical. But again, that's that means Rebbe Zalman is understanding like Rebbe Yeshaya. According to the Maharsham Lecha'ora not. What? >> Even if you go back and you're in doubt, you say "Who is with me again with my Shiva >> Yes, it would be about to say that you shouldn't say it. It's a lot of talk. Yeah, when if you if we say something is wrong and you're not supposed to say the word. Then it's yeah, it's a >> You should go to the stable later on. >> According to my son only. >> Well, no. >> What? >> Yeah, yeah, right. What do >> I can I say that? Okay, saying you won't forget it. So, yeah. Okay, you ready?