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The Haggadah (7) - The Seder Night and the Number Four

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Today's limud is and we have hashem holding at the seventh shar pun intended. So in the previous year we began the terret of marget. We talked a little bit about how we have to be. We know the mitzvah. We still have a mitzvah to tell the tale of mitz and as a the pesak brought uh a bra that as far as we know the only makar is actually the pesak which tells a story about five zanim and yatishua Rabaka and Rabarim that they were once and they were and we said that from this you see a riot to the we mentioned number one you see it doesn't matter what of you're on it doesn't matter how much you know you still have a mitzvah of additionally you see the idea of marble being that they were and Then the balagod brings what seems to be the safe of that price which is also a in the end of the first parac which talks about something that's not the mitzvah of but the mitzvah of either way we're moving along here in mag and this is really the nextl the next segment of the teres So the words are self-explanatory, but why are we saying this? We're in the middle of maggot. We're telling the story. We're picking up a little bit of momentum. Took seven to get here. Why this interruption? Why this? If you take a look at the rishim, the rishim all express the same idea albeit in different and that is we know that before aid learns he has to make we're about to we're going to talk about him we're then going to be para of there's going to be a lot of drases a lot that is going to make up the next segment of maggot before you learn you have to make a and it's for that reason in the we incorporate some form of I saw in the of margles he says shamati I heard that the way that the hagod was once upon a time recited was that the balagod would say the person leading the s of barak and everybody would say and then he would say and everybody would say similar to and that's what he heard was the that's where the barus are coming in regardless this is really just some clearly and now we return to our regular program and that is the mitzvah of says the of the when it told the of spoke the so we all know what's about to come but I think it's to just be mock it a little bit if you take a look in and you go through it properly take notes try to make a graph put it on spreadsheet bead. What you're gonna see is that there are four times in the Tyra that the Tyra tells the father that I want you to instruct your son tell him the story of and the question is why would the Tyra have to mention it four times by the way three of the four times are in par is a noish there's a lot of things that you have innra that you don't that you already mentioned previously but it's even mentioned three times in paras. So clearly there's some message being told to us from the fact that the mentions this obligation that a father has towards his son literally four times says the you want to know why it's mentioned in the four times each one of these parishes is talking to another child and being that each one of these parishers are talking to another child so it's for That reason we mention it four times. Meaning if this was a onesized terret that fits all the questions and all the shs, you would give me that one. But not all shys are the same. And because not all shs on are the same, not all of the ishim, not all of the are going to be the same. The reason there's four mentions is because there's four different that will need to be presented depending on who the sh is. What do you mean depending on who the is? Is he is he is he to or is he now we're going to go on and the different parish the different that I mention. So I think it's good just to mention these they're very brief and it's very much the hakama we're about to see. The first time the terra mentions this of a father responding to a question that his son asked is right in the beginning of the related it's what's going to be if at some point in the future your children are going to ask you what's this all about? You should say this is what your answer should be. Several later. This is pericuim. Several later. This is three times with very very few in between them. And then finally There's a long answer. The bottom line is four times your child is going to ask you a question. Four times you should respond. If you look carefully at the root, it's not all the same because it's talking to four different. So the now is going to give us an abbreviated version of which one of these paras is the which is the which is the which is the and what exactly the response is supposed to be. Now as it relates to this part of the this very much is rooted in kazal. As a matter of fact, it's two places in kazal. It's a it's also if you have that for so he actually goes through the way it's presented in the way it's presented in the there are many and literally with a graph he goes word by word and he highlights the what the are and what the reason for it might be. So there are really two different of what we're about to see. Regardless, the gist is the same. So what does the say? He looks at his father at the and he says, "Why are you doing why you doing? Why you doing?" Meaning why you keeping all these what you should respond to him is you should tell him You should tell him the which is that you're not eat after you bring the carbon or after eat which is a for the carbon. So a few things. First of all, what does it mean? Sounds redundant. He comes to the seder. He sees a lot of mitzvah. He's intelligent. He's inquisitive. And in a very very respectful way, he says, "What's this all about? One of the that we left on the table when we were learning is anel in his toes mishbat. So pious mishbatim is called mishbatim and the barbanell gives a beautiful he says that you find the is described sometimes as sometimes as sometimes as mishbatim. It's also referred to sometimes as mitzvah but specifically says that what's the iss when there's a mitzvah and the purpose of the mitzvah is that by you doing this mitzvah you're saying you're testifying about something that took place in the past for example shabas he's being made that created the world in six days and he rested by is a mitzvah that has no time. Is a mitzvah that has no reason. The is and a mishbat is a law that makes perfect sense. Every medina, every judicial system has mishbim clrol as an umah also has mishbatim. It's not coming to be made on something. It's not a ritual that's above our pay grade. It's actually something that makes perfect sense. and in histo talks about everything mentioned in precious mishb are he also goes on to say that even though every has but the are different and that's his that he's talking about in the beginning of parish I saw in right here he says the same exact thing he's he makes the same observation and he touches up the Indian identically the way he does it in his and he goes on and he explains that at the there are which is precisely the reason that the says he explains he says that's the carbon is an that we left and the isos to the fact that it These are very much of being made on something that took place in the past. He says, so for example, one of the laws of the carbon was there was a special for those learning that you were not allowed to take the bus of the carbon pac out of the house in which it was eaten. What would be shot in that? the not let it break the bone of the carbon this say for butel counts this as one of the and when the sees the sensitivity make sure you don't take the ber out of the house you better be very careful when you eat it don't break the bone he says he says I hear you're bringing a carbon pes that makes sense you explained it to me it's an but what exactly is this all about and then finally there are mishim as well because there's a that kadas If someone's a Benar, he's not allowed to partake. If someone's anal, he's not let to partake. Those laws make perfect sense. If you're part of the club, if you subscribe to what we believe in, well, then you get to get a little piece of flesh. If not, well, you're going to be on the outside looking in. That mitzvah is in and of itself not an aid. Certainly not a what it is is a mishbot. So says that if you think about all the different mitzvah that you find by the say that there are and that's why he's able to identify certain mitzvah cert Certain certain of that's the first. The second this every person has to ask. If you open up you're going to ask this question. So what do you tell him? Is that what you're supposed to tell him? The says what you're supposed to tell him. The question of the is the fourth one mentioned in the it's five. It's the longest answer, but there's a whole specific answer on that gives that he's supposed to tell the so why you telling and besides it's a ple he asks you he's a big lon he realizes he and what do you tell him you know you're not allowed to eat drink selzer maybe that's a shil water yeah this is what you tell It almost has no so again you have to look at the foundational just to understand what's going on over here. If you take a look in the of the says the same thing, you tell him what it says in the if the only thing you tell him is what kind of mitzvah is that? That's the way you're going to impart in your children by telling him you can't eat is going to run for the hills. Rightfully so. That's not what you're supposed to do. What you're supposed to do is you're supposed to tell him the what the god is saying is he's a this person can understand he can absorb information. You tell him everything. You tell him and then you tell him the and then you tell him the you walk through every single thing that you're going to do at the and the truth is there are some that have the but of course it's not the only thing you're telling him of course makes no sense it's not what the says you're supposed to tell him and how exact And then the precious boy by telling him the terror says you tell him everything up until again this is just in the spirit of we're trying to do what we do. This is the question of it's not redundant. And what the answer is moving along from the now to the Russia. What exactly does the Russia say? The the question of the Russia is why are you doing this? Now he used the word meaning he's not involved. It's not cuz this has nothing to do with me. I'm a not such innocent bystander being that he took himself out of the cloud. He's a and you have to respond in kind. You knock his teeth out, preferably the front two and you tell him did this for me when I left. He did it for me, not for you. What does that mean? I wasn't there and you weren't there. True. Had I been there, I would have been redeemed. But had you been there, you would have not been redeemed. So the Russia says and you give him this whole uh don't try this at home kind of answer old school that you knock his teeth out number one and then you tell him now if the way presents was hard to understand the Russia is almost inexplicable in terms So where does it say this is the first of the four mentions which by the way you see that the is not in order of the way it's written in the because the is fourth and the Russia is first but either way that's where it says the question of the says the you know what you're supposed to doesn't say anything about knocking his teeth out. Additionally, it says a whole different truth. What's going on over here? Now, what does the say you're supposed to tell the Russ? You tell him. Now that's a you know where it says it that it says in now those words are not prefaced by any question and as we'll see in a minute that's how Kazal knew that that is to the person who taken to be attributing the chuva that's supposed to be given to the to the rush So number one, why you not telling me the chuva of the Russia? And number two, why are you telling me the chuva of the if we've never asked this question? It means because we've never learned this properly because it jumps off the page. It's not a fancy question. This is like pit pit p like number one. And number two, at first glance, it would seem to be if you take a look at the said in what's going on over here, the guy said that when the Russia says you're not supposed to answer anything to him, there's an inion of sometimes you don't even converse with the Russia. There are people where you converse with them. But a person could be and he could reach a level that really just stay far away from him. You're not even supposed to answer anything to him that when the Russia asks the question you're not responding. What do you mean? It says that's not the answer to the Russia. In fact, that's a in fact said the is one of them is and you have to SPEAK IT OUT. WE LEARN IT FROM this says the going it's not a to it's that every year that ever brought the carbon was obligated to say and it's we say stating that said the goi I have someone that's asking a question and everyone's just rolling their eyes especially after he got his teeth knocked out and everyone's sitting there and this is uncomfortable And somebody says something, right? Think quickly on your feet. Says the guy in says the guy. You know what you do? You turn to the people around you and you say something. What do you say? What you say is you're talking to them and you tell them not because you're not talking to the Russ. IT'S says the gun. You ready for the punch line? So why are you using that terret to everybody around you? Because that's the terret to the inia. That's the terret you give when no one prompted you with a question. They didn't ask a question. You're answering something they never asked. It's the proverbial says that's the is what he himself wrote on the side of his what's going on over here. There's no other way to learn this. But either way, I shouldn't say that, but this is the So again, says the cloud. Just knock his teeth out. Don't even answer the lie not to him but tell regarding him to everybody around him. Why that? Because that's what you tell the never asked the question. What you say is leave a lie and then you throw out this this disclaimer of had he been there he would not have been redeemed one we mentioned this years ago in the d but I think it's good to mention now what does this mean you knock his teeth out so again you know what teeth are you know what a punch is you knock his teeth out that's seemingly the p of shot in his says something. He says that if you know about five could be you could have a little bit of a different over here. The says in this is said I was once in the presence of brought of that's what it was and I wanted it very badly. I I I I saw it. I was smelling it. It was very gishmach. And had they not given it to me, I would have been in a said funny you say that says I was once by they brought him turnips and there was vinegar there and said they not given me I would have been inapp says it's true for all these things you said you should know it's true for a good glass of beer too Even for that you would have the same exact thing says let me tell you the rule that you should take away from this anything that smells strong and it's also vinegary is something that if you're in the presence and you can't have it it could put you into a a state of so if you don't have you could be in a mat of that's the first second shabas over there is discussing different if you know you you know there was a woman that a snake once went into the woman or in the event that a snake would go into a woman and we're trying to figure out how to get the snake out of her gulf. So the prescribes a whole method of what you should do but here's the gist of it. You should bake bring you should bring very very fatty meat a and you should start roasting it and then you should bring wine. If there's going to be fatly meat being roasted and wine, the snake is going to be so overwhelmed by the ray of this biso that the snake is going to come out of the and this is how she's going to be saved from margus in the world of if you don't have it you're in you see from that certainly if there's wine present is something that could be so powerful the re that this snake that is not coming out of the gof of the woman all of a sudden this would bring the the snake out. Okay. So there's no question in the world if someone's in the presence of fatty meat and this over there and he can't have he's going to be a massive of sak but what's the sak says here this is told what's the to what people say that a person who hears his friend eat and the food is something that's tempting him and he can't have it are going to befall his teeth in the event that he can't get it says that what is the s that a person is in in the event that he wants food so badly cuz it's is of and he can't have it you want to know what sak is there a sak to his teeth that's This person is a Russia. He's we know if someone's a he's not let punch his two teeth out. But what you should do is tell him you can't partake in the carbon p. That's one of the carbon. He's not let to take part. If you can't take part and you're going to be here and you're going to smell this smell which is so powerful like the says in Shabas and you're not going to be able to have it which means you're going to be in the sak that the says in you know what's going to happen to you that's the proverbial and said that the em is the is just one there's a this med is in it's on the which And the med goes on and the med says that when took the yidden out of the night before was and the yidden was sitting and they were proving the carbon p. Initially, initially only Mosher Rabenu and Aarin were partaking in the carbon p and the were not yet eating from it. They were they wanted very much to eat it. And the reason they wanted to eat it was because they were smelling the smell of it. told give us something to eat. Said you're not let from the carbon. They said we want this so badly. So they got rid of now. They were still we need this food so badly. You have to do so they immediately got up and they did and again they were they wanted it so badly give us something each person did his own. goes on and on and on until finally this desire this that was burning because of the smell of the carbon pes that they saw from Mosha and finally they did everything they were supposed to do and they were able to sit down and eat from the carbon says it's posit this line in a play on that by the very very first carbon the were told they were told they were told if you want to partake in the if you want to eat in this meal you have to be a member of the club. There are times where you can invite outsiders bring them in and even if they're not holding by it you them on a level and you try to but when it comes to the you're either with us or against us. This is how this works today. You have to be a member of the club. And if you're not a member, you're not going to get what we tell the rush is that you're not going to be able to eat. And by you telling him that it's going to be like and specifically it's going to affect his teeth. And this is what we call we now return to the third question. What does the Tom say? Pretty uh straightforward. He says what's going on over here. You should tell him the question. If you look it up in the Tyra is the question the chuva if you look it up in the is the it's in fact the third of the that I mentioned the alo the third of the if you're keeping score in the fin as relates to so for you have to make the first move that when it comes to the that's the how do you know that's the because if you look in the it's not prefaced by any question just being oh must be he's someone that doesn't know how to ask the question himself he's the I saw Marggo Zagod says what's this of? So he says it's not to say because any day is a little child the little child usually sits with his mother right he gravitates to his mother. The mother sometimes has a better kayak to communicate with a little child not sometimes most of the times if not all the times than the father does. Hence when it comes to talking to the little childish we turn to the mother you should partake the mitzvah is the father's mitzvah but again the mother has a special with a little child either way so we have based on the four times it's mentioned in the who are the it's the it's the it's the and it's the now from the four quote unquote mentioned in the which one are we so we started already which is that it's the ter of the why do we say the terret of the it's partial why we say the terret of the because the man is the the right that's what it is the questions that we ask we don't start the questions like the we don't say nothing and we don't say what do we say why this why that so it's being that the question the way we present it at the seder are the questions of the it's for that reason the truth that we give is the truth of I think that's very very posh. Either way, moving along one more paragraph says, "You would have thought that the should be done already from means by day." You think it should be during the day. And by the way, what's the we spoke out a few ago? It's because usually during the day is by day you take by day. So you would think that this mitzvah shouldn't be the night before it should be by day. Stating that it says what does mean always means you're you're looking something in the eye, right? So means you have the mitzvah in front of you. So it's then and only then that you have the mitzvah of the what's in this of why would you think that the mitzvah of should be meaning had it not said you would have all the other mentions of in Again, this is only one of four plus the zars and the mantis, right? But it sounds like had you not had this specific you would have thought it's already what would have been the so is because the preface to this whole was so you see already that the is not just to today it's really toes more than that the says clearly has to be now again it's specific days during the but at least twice emphasizes the I would have thought that maybe this is already so that it says from there already I know that it's not supposed to be I just saw one I think is worth mentioning In the from we mentioned already a few times that the inf says that what's the to the mitzvah of it's learned out from the fact that it says and the ra is that it says in the same way that it says Right. He said that we know they both bring that in the mitzvah of not only a mitzvah to remember Shabas on Shabas but there's a mitzvah to remember Shabas the entire week says the word Raan brings Rash and he says that's in the second it's not. So Ramban has a different shot, but Ramban goes and Damban although he learns a little differently than Rash, but he doubles down on the Ramban says in Rashi and in the Ramban that the T of is not only to remember it on but really the mitzvah of that you should remember it the entire week. If the says is also that you should remember not only on the day that you left it's that you should remember more. If that's the case that was the would have been a different the whole week. So it's shabas which is the day of THE WEEK IS THE OTHER DAYS. So here you're handling a day of the month. The entire should have an Indian. Now the is just like something the whole week and that's the of but you want to know where the was that it should be should be a it's because you see already that the is already again it's a in Not just that's how we know that the mitzvah of is either way we're going to stop here but just to end with one and that is the a few times in his makes a very very obvious observation something that we've all observed and that is that there seems to be some symbolism them in the number four at the child asks the man it's four questions we drink four cups of wine there are four of it's truth is the doesn't say this but if you ever noticed at the you eat four of matzah because by matzah you eat two kim one for mi and one for matzah And then by the you eat another and then you eat a fourth. So how many do we eat? We eat four. This is pushing it a little bit but this is another when they were told to bring the carbon pes in. So they were told to watch the carbon pes for how many days? for 4 days. But the bottom line is there are without a question many many and symbols of the number four at the sed and the says a why the number four in fact he says several mahalakim I think a very very posh approach to why the of the number four is the gmorra says in says there are four people that have which meant bringing a carbon with today means who are the four people that so if somebody crosses the sea Especially back in the day where it was so dangerous, he had to bring a carbon give. If somebody had to travel through the midbar, he had to bring a carbon. If someone was in, of course, he has to give. And if somebody was incarcerated and he was freed, he too has to bring a carbon. The in ratio test brings this. And then he says you want a simmon to remember who are we say in literally on that says that it could be that's the reason you find by the why of says the because really all four of these were clear and present when the were when the yidden were in and they left. So they were they crossed the yams they were you think they were say that and then finally they will says the in a very very long piece of that's the beer that's the foolishness of because these big four the mount rush of the talk about the we had all four of them we had the and the and it's for that reason this foolishness of because we were niggle four times but here's the point the point is that there would four gulas so the four goulas there's four the four there's four of matzah the four gulas we ask four questions We keep on bringing out the four. Why are we constantly bringing out the four? Because the attack of four are very very to this observation that the makes. But there's another that we've mentioned in the past, but I think we'd be sued for malpractice if we didn't mention again. And that is in the saddic theim makes this observation as well. Why the number four associated with the lea and he says a do we spoke the other day about the amount of years that it's a little tricky by the from the time that went to until was reduced it was 210 years the of was from when Ley passed away 116 years in the was she was 86 years old at the time of so we know that it was 86 years so 400 210 116 86 have to juggle all these numbers but there's another in the it's actually in the in succession the says that if you do the math and you count up how many years were it It was 430 years. Next, it was at the end of the 430 years. This P would seem to suggest that how long they were in for 430 years. In fact, this is one of the that altered when they were because it seems to be inconsistent with a lot of the narrative that we're familiar with. But you have two where the say that how many years were the they were in the mitz for 430 years says the who I want to suggest as follows the says 430 years the was supposed to be in mit for 430 years ultimately how long were they on so again 400 210 116 but the how long was that it was 86 years that means their sentence was reduced Boo from 430 years to 86 years. That's a reduction of 344 years. On a percentage basis, 86 is exactly 20%. Or 15th of 430. Which means that despite the fact the Yidden was supposed to be on some level in Mitim for 430 years, at the end of the day, they only had to serve one of the sentence. Which means they were speared how many fifths? Four fifths. When the yidden left and when they did their sentence was reduced by four fifths and being that it was reduced BY FOUR FIFTHS HAS to give for the four fifths. And that's why there are so many of four it's we were speared the four fifths. And if you're not convinced, says the I'm going to tell you a nifl to this of we drink four cups of wine four. What's the gamatri of kis 86 86 * 4 is exactly 344. It's the 344 years that our sentence was reduced. So to remember the four fifths to remember the 86* 4 what we to now go to the leer and we make the symbol of four cups of wine. It's a rem to the four fifths that we were spared from is very very he explains so many things with this. One of the things that says is he believes that's why the yidden after they left mim they were always getting nervous and they always wanted to come back. So we spoke a little bit about that in in one of the previous but says because in their mind they were supposed to be there for 430 years. So why were we getting out so early? probably we still belong there and every time they faced a little bit of adversity they said you know something maybe we went out prematurely see the fame but the bottom line is maybe we went out prematurely and as a result we need to REVERT BACK IT WAS BASED ON this idea that they knew they got this incredible reduction of what their sentence was supposed to be and it's for that reason they're always paranoid they're always thinking that maybe they're supposed to go back but has a safer to this in the safer the says we know is not a matter which means that if was supposed to be this was the decree they were supposed to be there for 430 years that means on some level there has to be 430 years which means the fourth fifth that was speared on some level they have to make up said that's the four the four g that had to endure we know in so many different places that if you take the entirety of golus of the Jewish people from the time they left mitu what you'll see is it's four golas it's golus and why four cuz we was speared four fifths and we need to make up those four fifths and in somehow each one of these gullies represent a represent one one period of 86 six years. But the bottom line is the of the four gullies is based on this. He says that's why the we read in the when the talks about gulus uses the lion of we use the lion of matri 344 and the entirety of gul is 344 years. It's those extra 344 years that still needs to make up. But the point is says says the term that the reason there's such a symbol of four and really the reason this four golas it's all the same it's cuz supposed to be in mit for 430 years we were speared 344 of those years which means we were speared exactly four fifths we were speared times four that's why we drink that's and that's all the Muslim says that of four four4 because we have to give the fact that we were speared four fifths of what really was supposed to come. Unfortunately, there's another part of the story. The other part of the story is because we were speared those four fifths, we have to make up those four fifths. Oh, by the way, says that's why told when he was at he told him, I'm going to be with you now and I'm going to be with you by future golas. And said, why are you telling me about future golas? Because part and parcel of going out of Israel now means there's going to have to be another forgias because you're getting off with you're getting off for 344 years which means there's going to have to be a makeup at some point in the future then says I found once he brings this in from the and he makes an incredible he says that we know the yidden entered so they conquered theanim how How many nations were they? It was seven, right? We conquered the seven nations and we took all their lands by the Brisbane when told that one day your descendants are going to have to be mit. They're going to go through and then I'm going to bring them into this land, right? And I'm going to give them all the different nations. You're going to be able to conquer them. I'm going to give them the ki, the kinesi and the kadmi and the and the pi and the reform and the and the gashi and thei. If you do the math, it's really 10 nations. We only got seven. So if we were promised 10 owes us three say it's true, we're going to be z to the other three. But the question is why? There was a deal. The deal was we're going to go to Mitra. We're going to have Sorus. We're going to come out and then you're going to take us into the land and you're going to give us the land of the 10 nations. Why do we only get sevens which are said that is because everybody knows that the reason the yidden had to go to before they enteredan is because there was a init that before you enter the land you need to first go through the kazal say this in a bunch of places we always speak out from the brisk at the said that's why who told about the m at the brisket The brisar was THIS GREAT COVENANT WHERE WAS FINALLY PROMISED with a br and that he was going to be to have children and to be and to inherit the land. Why do YOU HAVE TO BE TOLD RIGHT? Why you have to make a bit of sweet? RIGHT. I HAVE GOOD NEWS and bad news. Can't you tell me good news? Yeah. What do you want to hear first? I only want to hear good news. I don't want to hear bad news. Not first, not second. But Hashem told Abrau the bad news first. Why did he tell him the bad news first? Cuz he had TO HEAR IT. BECAUSE a bris is a deal. IT'S A PACK. And you have to know all the all the in the deal before you put your John Hancock on paper. And Abramino had to understand that there's a had to endure the gullus again for reasons above our pay grade. But they had to endure the gul in order to be we always speak out in order to be we always speak out that this far say that's why was ley was not included in the gullus of because it was understood that ley was not going to have whichever you prefer that's why they didn't have to go through this but the fact that ley didn't have that's why they didn't have to go through because the whole was so says that that when the yen WENT TO GO THEY NEVER FINISHED the deal cuz it was supposed to be 430 years and they only did 86 the yidden were a mit but they only made a deposit they didn't finish the deal the deal is not finished until they go through dal gully then they will have fulfilled That's going to be the we're waiting for the that we're going to be. We're finally we're done with the we're finally done with the 344 years of gull that has to go through. We made a deposit made a deposit back. You made a deposit. Very nice. 86 years. I'm gonna give you a deposit as well. As a matter of fact, I'm gonna give you disproportionate to what you did because you made a 20% deposit and I'm gonna give you 70% of return. But I have to hold something back. I'm holding back three nations. You know when you're going to be to the three nations? When you're going to go ahead and you're going to finish with all the golas. We're going to be put with the golas already. When we're going to be put with the golas at that point. At that point, they're going to be za at that point. They're going to be z to get the balance that is holding in an escrow account somewhere. The ki and the ki and the kadmi and is going to release it and he's going to give it to us and then we'll finally be to the entirety of Israel. The of refer to as they're referred to as the far say right that's easy 345 the way is through it's through learning and that's will overcome the and at that point the is going have no more deposits. Is going to have to release everything. There's going to be this incredible Sheffa, this windfall where we're going to be za to the ki and the kinesi and the the Amen.