The Italian Jews and their Wine

Last night, we discussed the censored chuva in the Shilus Haru Daled where he was asked about the minute in Marin Moravia where it seems that Jews were misal very very malle and drinking wine from Gentiles, drinking what we know as stamina And Drama was asked if there's any cool law, is there any loophole? Is there anything that these Jews have? Now, at first glance, you would think that the conversation is dead on arrival. We're learning. Now we've seen Mishnas, we've seen Gumaras, we've seen where it's very very clear that be it real be it that was produced by or be it even we are merely it was not only is that wineer but additionally we saw that that wine is user because of ideas related to meaning ideas related to avoid des which would make it not only user but it would upgrade it to the level of potentially avoid which gets into a world of maybe not only is it user but it's additionally we saw that the isert to drink is related to the where the says these were not just rabbitic decrees but would not have the ability to be so at first glance this minute would go down is one of the strangest menhagum of all time and would seem to be axiomatically categorically positively incorrect. stating that nunb brings a fascinating discussion that the French Bali tofus already had which seemed to suggest a little bit of a kula in what at first glance would seem to be this para kamura and really it began with something that the rean said he heard from Rashi the Rashbam said he heard it from Rashi where Rashi said that he found that the are no longer on doing. Now to be clear, this conversation that Rashi and the are talking about has nothing to do what we spoke about at length several times in the beginning of the and that is let them all bear. The point is that there was a certain pagan custom where once upon a time that was left in a state of in the same room with a glass of wine had this impulse to with the flick of a wrist go and be a little bit of that wine. That's something Rashi said already. The said was no longer pre prevalent in their times. Certainly Rashi said in our times it's not prevalent. And if that's the case today, when a guy engages with wine, we have to look at him as if he's a guy obviously, but at the same time, not one that is a quote unquote or to quote the he's not okay. So how would treat him? It would treat him like and we know that a who touches the it's not so posit that that would even be a problem. fact was said, but that only means that it's hold which means that not only is it going to be it's going to be as well but regardless today Rashi already suggested and this goes back to the times of the a who engages in wine we have to look at him like which means it's not going to have the of the over here in a what does that mean? In the worst case scenario today, if a guy would touch wine said, you would think there's a to say that would be in fact right in the beginning brings this. If you were to be so brazen and to suggest that which by the way is the well then it would be m to drink it even that is not the but at the very least a strong deis in the that would open up the door to maybe be on a m additionally stamina which is only like says because of its nex to the extent there's no manu soam would be maybe so the rishum already opened up the door of fascinating I mean this is like a top five of all time in terms of what's going on there and a discussion that could be was already very different than the that was discussed in the gar. All of this is fine and vile and it helps you maybe with regards to it helps you maybe for having but to drink or to drink and in fact that's not even related to that's related to it's related to and if that's the case there's no question in the world that should be a problem and it's for that reason the question was sent to the Ram. You have these Moravian Jews there being they're being mal do they have what to beh or do they not have to so last night we went through the Jew from the his incredible he said number one being that it was and it's to drink wine again something that is hard for us to appreciate but it's to drink wine could be it's like pass and just like in pass you find because of these two pieces so could be when it comes to be the same way additionally on the days where was also forbidden because of yet you see that hel that is with beer would only be true if you sat in their pubs and their taverns and their living rooms and you drank together with them but if you took it to quote unquote go well then maybe it would be different so the said you can make the argument what's the difference between beer and wine I mean if there's any ever been two beverages that are they are the two right so when it comes to the ismus is only a problem if your mom is drinking with them. Then you can argue as it relates to it would be the same. But the Raos said in so many different ways everything I'm saying now is just to be it's just to be a little bit but you want to know if this is what I believe and any person that drinks he's stating that you want to know if there's some avenue of said there is and this was really a brief recap of what we talked about last night but as relates to today's raid we're going travel from Prague to Italy and visit a little bit what the custom was amongst the Italian Jews as it relates to Stamen. And just as an introduction to this raid bite, I want to give a a thank you and a shout out to Naki Weinstein who is our in-house Italian scholar. We know that already. But um I really worked through this Indian very much together with him and he shared with me a couple of incredible marchus as we're going to see. But either way, # the swarm chatter very much has his fingerprints on this raid bite. But regardless, there's a safer that's called safer noise. This safer was written by Rabul Abuhav was the of Bezden of Venice circa 1600s. He's also the noted author of the Shiloh one of the of the 17th century. So writes this safer called safer and the purpose of the safer is to address the ills of society. So he's looked around and he's noticed a lot of things that are not okay and he wants to address them and be moderate that has to be mazic in certain areas. ing dalid the fourth thing that he gives a mention to and this is the most famous of all the things that are mentioned in this safer is the fact that there are people that drink and to him it's a and he feels that this is something that requires a significant portion of this safer to address because this notion that you could have Jews drinking stam to him is mindboggling now if you go through zincandal and by the way it's an easy read Italian poets and the Italian authors they wrote so beautifully who's the exhibit a for that right but the point is that it's a very very easy read you can go through it especially now we're learning all these gamaras so for sure it's a page turner but the point is in the beginning of the safe of this zikarin so the way he sets it up is he said if people were having from being mock to What's the with all the raid? But the problem is they're drinking and drinking again is related to and a thousand years ago versus today. The demographics from that perspective have not changed and sociological differences are not going to impact this in any way. And if that's the case, at first glance, it's a See, he said he investigated this Indian a little bit. And what he discovered is eight different tino, eight different reasons that people suggested why maybe it's okay in 17th century Italy to be drinking stam. And I think it's to mention all eight of them very very briefly. The first one is that people say anymore which is essentially what Rashi said and he deflects this like he did in the introduction to this said that would help you for no that would help you maybe for if you want to tell me that is like so maybe you'd be able to drink it but it's not going to help you for the so that is really coming from a place where you didn't learn these sug properly very easy to say, "Oh, what's the problem today of drinking wine?" But not yeah that's amazing if you don't know the but if you know the says there's aan problem there's a problem there's aud problem well this doesn't really get too far and again this is really everything that we talked about the second that said that he saw as it relates to this Indian is that the isser to drink albeit mishnos would only be a problem if you're drinking it in the house or maybe even in a tavern and a pub together with an but to the extent that you're taking it to go then already maybe you wouldn't be sure and the precedent for that is well you see by which according to many was also felt that there's no problem if you're not drinking it together with them now this tina if it sounds familiar this was the ra second argument right this is the t of again he didn't say but at the very least He threw it out there but says again not quoting anybody but says this is not a good at all and the reason this is not a good is very very simple he said because we know there's a lot of things that said areas said that is they also said is they said is so I want to ask you a question you ever hear anyone say that is mut as long as you don't sit and eat together with the guy what do you mean is because if a go is going to prepare a meal for you, you might become his right. That's what we're worried about. But that's something that's always a problem. You can't ever eat from anything that was by a guy says, "You have to say that we have no right to pick and choose and be madame." When it came to dear said that it's only going to be a problem if you're drinking it with them. when it comes to bishop kas their kazal didn't make that distinction. He says regarding pass I never heard such a distinction either. So Kazal knew with their incredible wisdom when to make this distinction and when not to make this distinction. But in terms of us going ahead and being is like maybe is like maybe it's like maybe it's like one of the other things that are so we have no right to go ahead and to address it. Now there who used this as a big in his probably agreed and say it he's coming to so really depends on how you want to approach this. If you want to approach it, it's wrong. If you want to approach it, let's be maybe we can say that is like right. So it depends on how you want to approach it. But this is a mus and in this he says what I saw this argument as that this is what they want to rely on. There's no way that this is something that you'd be able to rely on. The third Tina that he brings is that people that says God's right more clarified exactly how that evolved but they put them all together right clearly put them together said I saw some wanted to say that it sounds like it's all the same so what so they were which we know right they were So once she is motor is going to be motor as well. As if to say these were three takas that were all put together and once one domino falls they all fall. So they were mount everything is going to be motor and said that's ridiculous. First of all second of all said it by she never applied it to everything else. It sounds like it was meant by shem. What do you mean the the shemen domino fell in the terms of kazal? They didn't make any deal about oh well that affects pass and that affects the and he says besides if you go through the mas of the way the garra comes out is god and what do you see from there you see in the is one step closer to and says because wine brings to bad things sometimes certainly can bring so if that's the point just because they were in act. He said that if they would have been and you wanted to tell me now is oh that's a good argument because God so if well then they should be as well but that's not what Kazal said. It was just the opposite. It was and now they were number one. Who said the three have anything to do with each other? If anything it's in the reverse order. You see that never even mentioned regarding pass. He says as far as that goes to him that's ridiculous. The fourth hater that he saw is aa aa. He said the fact that Jews don't drink wine together with some people are arguing it just brings to animosity and to bad feelings amongst the gentiles and we find that and they will matter a lot of things and based on a I think this is something that should be mutter. So the first thing says is that we have no right to be mad. We're mad. He brings the truth already said this. We can't go ahead and decide what's ava. He brings where am thought something should be and then they were told that they were wrong. But the point is we are definitely not now in the 17th century to say that something that said is something that's brought down as being we're going to go ahead and we're going to be misha. He says besides did you ever feel this ava because you don't eat non-coosher meat? where anyways not eating and mingling in a proper way together with because of the laws of so this is where everything is going to fall apart says I don't believe that and then he says something very interesting he says that there are a lot of Jews that are for sure on it's not everyone that's being misal and some aren't he says you know what I think is the in the world he says when the see that there's no amongst the Jews That's what causes Ava. He said, if the Jews are unified, he said, then there's no AA. That's what he says. He says, but when we're in a mat where we're not getting along, that creates it creates a it looks like the Jews don't know what they're doing. And if we don't have our act together, how do we expect anyone else to respect us if we can't respect ourselves? Fascinating idea. But he says the a is going to come foret from be mazo. He says cuz he never going to get the and the to go ahead and to be mazo. And the fact that this Jew does and that Jew doesn't it and makes us look like a joke. And when WE LOOK LIKE A THAT CREATES THE greatest anti-semitism in the world. This is like a fascinating little nugget tucked away over here in the middle of but either way that was number four. Number five, this one's great. And really, you know, before last night's rabbi, you would say come again. But uh you have to rewind it. But I think after last night's rabbite, we could at least appreciate it. He said, "I've heard people say that if a Jew doesn't drink, it's impossible. Can't make it through your day without a glass of wine." And because really sometimes the only wine that's available. So it's a question of nephesh now he says could be when you're home you know you have your local wine guys that you can go to #iff etc. over there maybe it's not nefes but when you're on the road then it's for sure and if it's nef it's going to be a problem and he writes back he says listen I understand that you know wine is very important but it's notes and because it's not he says go on you ever saw somebody die cuz he didn't have a glass of wine it never happened so it's not but it's definitely not and as a result that's not something you can say the sixth tina that he brings which I'll be honest I don't understand but the sixth argument is that being that so many people were if Jews are then you have to be now it's amazing even gave this a little bit of air time because what would then say when he hears this right you know that there was a he once asked it says in the he said most people in the world are not Jews so why are you following your religion aren't you supposed to go busy so told him it's true it says What does that mean? It means when there's a suffic but if you know the MS if there's a vi of roy is a tool that the dian uses in a suffic but is a garnish. So, what do you mean it's very nice so many people are doing it but if it's also it's also but either way this is what said was an argument and obviously this was something he really didn't like the seventh which we're not going to go into is there was a from a chuva that was written by the this is in his sim and from that it sounds a little bit like he was in fact it sounds a lot like maybe he was and this was something argument seven that the safe house was coming to address and he says that you know as it relates to that don't make a big deal about that because the truth is there are other chu that were written where it's clear that he was very mmed and he goes on this whole this is probably the longest part of this chapter where he says people they take chas out of context and they take quotes and and he did say it he didn't say it he meant it he didn't mean it he says if you're going to tell me what the re's position was when it comes to go through every single chuva you didn't I did and I'm telling you right now he was a big mah this Indian I that online it's a kasha but either way there's no question in the world that that's the way it is and then finally the last thing he says that people China is this has been says I don't know I was born in Italy Padua in the year 1640 my father told me that he used to buy wine here and his father used to buy wine there and his father used to buy this has been going on for generations and if it's been going on for generations he says that you know I don't know what to tell you this is the way we've always been doing it and this is the way we've always been doing it so there has to be some merit to it so to that said what do you mean your father did it I mean your father it's very nice he did it but doesn't make it right he says if they were that did it but they weren't these were people that were making the same mistake that you were making but they have a drinking I mean that's not what we call not right I mean that that's not for that reason that's not going to be regardless here in perim of he goes through eight different maybe what he calls and he categorically dismisses all eight of them but one thing is clear you see from this whole Indian and that is that in Italy in the 1600s this was a major problem this was a major major Truth is there's more evidence that this was a major problem in Italy circa the 1600s and that's from another safer this safer was called Yan Hamash you can find it safer is called Yan Hamash and it was written by Hagyen Hameobel Shapiro now not to be confused with the Bal Malamukas who had the same name but this is Ramnos Shapiro who is a big Makobel and he wrote a safer called Yin Hammer and the purpose of the safer is to again address this issue and that is there are Jews in Italy that are drinking sam it's wrong and I have to address it now if you look at the cafer which I did you'll see the safer is made up of two parts the first part of the cafer is a bunch of and all different that are on board 100% that this is a terrible terrible thing now it's a little ironic and the reason it's ironic is because the husk that shap brings when that has on his own safer in fact his safer itself has No husk but there's 30 pages of husk that were getting given in friodus to similar or mak meaning different letters that were written related to the fact that people are drinking when they're not supposed to be drinking and he's being mitar them to his own caf that's the first part of the cafer the second part of the cafer is his argument of why it's wrong and if you take a look at it inside you'll see the whole is kabal it wasn't a that was written not was a big and this safer that he wrote was alab and really it comes from where says that any person that's not will not merit to drink from the y when mashia is going to come hence the name of the safer yamash and the two are related to each other you drink stam you're going to lose out on the yamash and he works with that zy and other cababalistic sources and really what comes out is that in the world of kabala stam is from the worst things a person could possibly which means that the transcends the of the bal in the 11 and 1200s in France. It transcends all this rate. There's a cabalistic component and that was the point that the Shapiro was commun to make. By the way, from these two swarms, which was written by Abu and which was written by N Shapiro, both addressing the Italian Jews, it's very very clear that this was an issue not only in Moravia, but this was a major major issue in Italy as well. There's a journal that's put out by Rabakov Hel's Mat Shalom. It's called Minhagen. They're already holding by volume 19. I think that's the most recent one that came out. It's a hard cover glossy pictures fascinating journal name. They're taking things out of Genea uncovering different that were forgotten about and different that never saw the light today. In volume and this is page there's an article that was written by a professor a tremendous guy whose name is Rabyakov Spiegel and the purpose of this it's a contress on stamenum Italy circa the era that we're discussing right now specifically there was an Italian godle whose name was reb mahal hallelujah that was his name rebah Hallelujah. Incidentally, he has an entry in the sham mahal hallelujah had written was a ro in Italy in the 1600s. He had written swarim. One of the swarim that he wrote is shil such hal gummer. Not surprising but that's the name of the cafer shil such hal gummer. It has 65 chuvas in it. Gimatria of IN THE BACK OF shila halgmer there are three chuvas that he wrote about this issue of stam bismano and thiserigel is printing for the first time these three chu on stam from hallelujah. and this is what it is. So he prints it with footnotes and the in the introduction to this presentation, he talks a little bit about what was going on in Italy at that time. Just as an interesting aside, the first footnote that he has in his own piece is I want to give a big who helped me write this article. So he gives a big alter to helping him with this article. But either way, just to get a little sense of where this title is coming from. But regardless, so he goes through what was going on in Italy and he quotes the and he quotes the from these are the famous that were written on this topic and he says a few interesting things that I want to mention. Number one, so it's clear from these that there was a a problem in Italy, right? Where people are drinking sam. So here's the first question I think you would want to ask yourself right the curious listener would want to know and that is who exactly was being this is the that are not you know the that are necessarily behaving the way they're supposed to behaving mean the people that the is getting up and shring about or were these actually it's the like who is it right who are the people that are drinking stamina right every society has its ills usually they're associated with a certain fringe of this society who in Italy was drinking Samy when you see an drinking Samy I'm under the premise that this is okay so here's two mus that if you're a little bit familiar with Italian history is absolutely mind-blowing the first thing that uncovered is that when wrote his and he talks about eight different arguments that he saw that it should be mut so he didn't write where he saw these arguments right makes no mention of it. But he says it's posit where he got this from. He said because there was a safer that was written around that time and in that safer all eight of these arguments are there. And he says no sh in my mind. It's partial. It's beyond a reasonable doubt that this is what he was referring to. Now that safer is a safer called that's the name of the safer and it was written by Yed whose name was Rebalion Roig. Right. He was the Rav of Roigo and he went ahead and he writes this called and it's from there that it's coming. So we track down the cafer and if you take a look at the cafer it's very very small but this is what he writes here in the beginning. I'm just going to read a few excerpts. He says someone that's very very good and I'm very people that are but I feel it's very hard today to be in the and the reason it felt that way is because it was it was just too hard to produce your own kosher wine. It's very very hard. So I decided that this is not something that I'm going to get involved. He said but I want you to know that even though what I'm doing is aesh but I have to rely on who that it's nowuden was one of the raon in Venice around this time. He was the son of the padawa ramy pad was the god of bait. This is the padawa son who was also a god beyond reproach not negotiable. All theim that we're quoting from now are 100% beyond reproach. He says as follows he was not careful IN I was fighting with him. I said what are you doing? He said the B of the he said if I was drinking wine with them I don't think this is so I'm going in the footsteps of My rebi I saw my rebi be and if I saw my rebi be m something I could be m as well. The mur of these eight kindness that was addressing was really if you trace it back it was which if you know you know was a son of one of the most respected of that era. This is where it traced itself back to which is absolutely fascinating. I'll tell you something that's even more mind-blowing. If you're sitting be careful hold on to your chair and that is that spiggel quotes here in this article that the zachuva in the shu is be as written by beer. He was also uh Italian gudle in the latter half of the 17th century and he was discussing a very nuance shila in the world of sta and in the middle of the truth he goes off a little bit on a digression and he says quote That's what he writes. He says he brings that to mommy drink. Now, why is this so interesting? I mean first of all this is what it doesn't even make sense right but I'll tell you why it's even more interesting than that because if you remember not so long ago in the beginning of when we did the rabbite about the beard and it's that brings in his tru about that he was clean shaven he calls him who was right he didn't have one facial hair on his face because he used to shave his beard what's the martyer comes from the beer As that's where it comes from and if you remember we mentioned then and others said that the beac was misinformed AND THEY CAME SO YOU'RE saying that the pano DID HAVE A BEARD HAD A BEARD IT'S THE bare it's fascinating the bear as said pan was the one who was like that's IN he's saying that he drank this is a ple in his go if there's ever been one but this is what he brings by the way just to give you an appreciation who's the bear as His chas were reprinted recently you know reprinted them reprinted his chas and this is what he brings the two chas in one ch didn't have a beard and so says we know that of the was very much contested people said he was misinformed that it wasn't true how people came out strongly now brings it in but we know how strongly people came out against it and here again this time talking about what's even more interesting is if you look at the so we mentioned what was right what was the eighth argument the eighth argument maybe to to be the eighth argument was that this is what the zas did right this EVERYONE GREW UP LIKE this so if everyone grew up like this based on that should be okay and he writes back what do you mean you saw your father and your za do was was THE SAME SHAKE AS YOU ARE I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL US YOUR SHAKE IT'S RIGHT. IT'S BASICALLY WHAT HE SAYS. HE SAYS, "If you saw by the be one thing, but you didn't see by the and then he SAYS, "LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I SAW by the and he starts listen. He mentions the marik and he mentions the pad." He starts going through some of the big Italian. And then he says as follows the true voice of even though all the troubles that we have from him he never said a word about this. Everyone knew how he was when it comes to Either WAY HE SAYS THE PANO THIS SADDIC THIS KADESH everyone knows that he was very when it comes to so was the paniz was he not did he have a beard or did he not have a beard why we talking about this it's all this is all in the it's coming up in these ra bites this is absolutely fascinating but al one thing for sure you see that there were real rabinan There were real Rabonim that seemingly were behind this this mic. Here's another good one. Ramosha Proello. Sounds familiar, right? So is the one that wrote the chuva about playing tennis in 15th and 16th century Italy on Chavis. So inv So he has uh he has a chuva about a certain type of cheese and this is the way the chuva begins for the people that are so it seems they used to put a little bit of wine so someone that's niser someone that's niserin Stameno someone that's who's not Nisar and Stameno it's it's like gross I eat gros I don't eat gros I put a canadal in my soup I don't put a canal in my soup THIS IS NOT OPEN FOR DEBATE what's this negotiation over here the ter is because in Italy there were people that were narim there were people that were not nisarim by the way this whole was written really asma as we mentioned there were mahal hallelujah three chuvas that he wrote on this topic so what did he himself write so if you take a look at his chuvas so he writes as follows seems that somebody tells him that it's very hard for me by not drinking. So he goes with it's amazing he says that or that whole of that's not an issue anymore already addressed that. So that's off the table. What we're left with is the problem of the problem of he said that's and this precedent where you could be and today for a person not to be able to drink wine he's going to be in an enormous amount of pain and based on that he wants to be I mean these are incredible kisters they're I mean you talk about these are incredible culin because of these reasons when it comes It's there's a little bit of annoyance meaning you're uncomfortable. You're this is the poetry is just ridiculous. The was given this is what he writes was also from the Minim. But here's the bottom line. The bottom line is this was not just a ka that was prevalent amongst this was a a ka that seems made it to the rabbitic level and it was a real thing. Now if you go through the in it's categorically awesome. I mean after you mention some of these things we have to make this very clear in there's no question in the world this is asser there's no sh in the world in the only m there is to be is when it comes to touching wine if you want to have enough from it or if you want to have enough but when it comes to drinking even though there's very much it's not true And when it comes to drinking that's not even and even that wrote his tru only said it to be he says in his own words I'm being that's what he says he's literally being but really it's something that he believes is 100% someone drinks he's and if you look in the shap that we mentioned earlier the grace of he brings from different sadikim that came up very very strong by far by far the most important one of those quote unquote hamas is that was written first by Cairo himself and then afterwards a kyra that was put out to address this interesting mic that signed off by all the rabbon of that famous and included in that is the mid and the and of course the so it came from all army held that this is something that without a question is going to be assa stating that there were times in Jewish history where people were make and it seems like maybe even had signed off on this kula. Now when you go through it you know sometimes you go through these you hit it a little bit and you struggle more to understand you know the bff component of it this is a pelad okay there's words there's rationale and it seems like the signed off on it one thing is clear that when you go through it the only reason the ones that were make or were even makeel was related to the world that they live in it's a world that we don't live in today so today for someone to walk into a store and buy stamenum or if someone's on vacation in a sitting in a hotel and they offer him a non-cosher glass of wine or he's sitting on a plane or wherever he might be you know he's going to say it's stam I heard some ra bites I mean that's a pirate scar on the highest level because when you go through the Indian even the saddakula is related to the fact that there was a time it was there was a time you couldn't survive today yontiff will sell you the best kosher wine you could possibly buy and if that's the case there's no question in the world this is not something That's nego. You want French, you want Italian, you want mushul, whatever you want, we'll sell it to you at good prices. And the bottom line is whatever you want today, you're able to get. So even that was going on in that time is is not something is not something that was relevant to but at the same time from a historical perspective as amazing as it may sound once upon a time this was a real thing. I just want to end with one thing and that is that one of the maras I came around about just going through this Indian a little bit was the moral the maral mi prag gave a fiery dr this is one of the printed dras from the moral where he talks about how the is drinking sam and the truth is that it's notes with the tr from the raos says in moravia this is a problem and bra is practically the capital of moravia so it makes a lot of sense that this is a problem and is very very very distraught and my was the is screaming about what's going on and the right both are right who's going to pick and choose between the ra and the moral right what the is the so I don't know but I think the mahalak the mahalik just the hash is what I think moral was the r when you're the rv you have to be miaak sees his I don't know talking during he has to get up he has to say something what are you supposed to DO HE'S not and but it's so fascinating came from one angle he's giving my how can I not give them they're drinking I believe it's wrong it's coming from a different vantage point he's coming from the vantage point and I like in that beautiful trit even to be I can't get over that truth from the Rama by the way. I know it was censored was uncensored you know obviously at some point as well but the bottom line is the way he was absolutely incredible because he doesn't like it. It's clear he doesn't like it. And again, you know, we're going to censor the you might as well censor the right because I mean there's the I mean the IS THE BUT THE BOTTOM line is this is what he felt. He felt very strongly there's a tremendous mus in there BUT THE MOROUS THEREOF THEREOF it's not a at all. But I'll tell you one other thing I came around and that is there's actually a a Misha that was composed by the Mari Prague and they would say this in the Shul and this I guess the out right I didn't see it on the wall the last time I was there but I guess that's what this was said and this is a in Moravia you ready this is the we're going to end with forch. be strong. The woman.