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So, that I was describing like what does
it mean to be free? Well, we know who's
a Ben Horim? Person learns Torah. Called
Ben Horim. Okay. So, one level, it
sounds like 2026.
One level Ben Horim is somebody
he's learning
and the phone rings. Yeah.
You know? And
he won't answer it cuz he's learning
right now.
That's one level. That's only the first
level.
The second level, higher level
Moshiach'dika level
is
he's learning and the phone rings
and the sound of the ringing is
irrelevant. It he doesn't process it. He
says, it's as meaningful to him as the
sound of a fork falling on the floor.
It's just noise.
Like one level, I hear it. I know it's a
phone ringing.
I'm even maybe even thinking who's
calling me, but no, I won't do it.
That's one level of freedom. You know,
you're not a connect to the phone. You
don't have to answer it.
Then there's I'm learning. What What's a
phone?
It doesn't It's not part of my reality
right now.
We talk about that today when we're all
so hyper connected and the Rebbe
speaking mouth when there was a payphone
in the in the Right. There's a payphone
down the hall. All right.
Right.
>> So, I mentioned the
I think Benji mentioned that it took The
Rebbe said they took out the payphone
from 770.
>> Oh, no. What did he say?
>> I Benji Pearson mentioned that in the
podcast that
>> The what?
>> it was him. And when they when The Rebbe
said that sicha, that's when they
removed the payphone from
from the from the hallway.
>> Uh-huh.
>> But you're saying you're saying that
whatever The Rebbe was saying then now
it's like on steroids.
>> Right.
>> As actually last yesterday I was
learning a k'vanning in taf shin mem
beis and The Rebbe says very very like
interesting. The Rebbe speaking about a
father being m'chanech his child
>> Mhm.
>> and you're telling them one thing and
then they see that you come home Shabbos
afternoon
and they undo your suit took and you're
having tea and
you're you're busy you're busy with the
flies
and the flies and the of the of the
world. You for sure don't need to take
take the mind of from the from the shelf
and they have it Earlier you were
speaking about a grandfather that's
telling his grandchild how to behave,
but then he sees how does he behave?
He's sitting on the telephone talking
not
but sitting and talking on the
telephone.
>> Wow.
>> And then when I was reading this I'm
like oh my gosh. That was talking about
>> Today.
>> us the father that's supposed to be
learning this
>> Right.
>> his kids
meanwhile what is this what's the father
doing?
>> the phone. Wow.
Yeah. Yeah.
It you know what it reminds me of? It's
like you know the famous about the
about
the desire about the industrial
revolution.
So that I would say there's certain
things that until the technology existed
it was very abstract for people like
I know you have a instant show mass.
So that would just be an example, right?
>> Like the famous master with the
>> Ah.
>> two
>> [clears throat]
>> sitting his name is Ted.
>> What's the story?
>> They were learning there's a there's
more
>> [laughter]
>> There's more
>> water than land.
>> than land.
I was in
South America and then I was in here.
>> Right and every place all I see is land.
It must be I'm wondering.
>> They believe in it.
>> Some things you have to take on a
moment.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> I'll tell you this is 2/3 of the world
and look at the table I'll tell you this
is we know that 2/3 of the world is
water and says well I don't I don't
understand. Every I've lived in
different countries everywhere I go it's
all land you never see water. Oh some
things you have to take on a moment.
Um
Yeah. So certain things were very
abstract and then as the technology
existed it was like oh this is a real
thing. And I think I'll dare I say in a
similar vein
certain things that I was speaking to
them in the 50s and the 60s and of
course that I was saying it's holy you
take it seriously.
But, I don't think they could imagine
that that I'm even speaking about
our time. You know, and
you call it navua. Like, to me it's not
a nevia. Like, like that Ashba said like
whatever needs to have a ruach kodesh as
ruach kodesh. It doesn't need like it's
not to me like a checklist. But,
is it navua to me? You know, chacham
adif minavi.
A general concept, right?
And a a chacham
is greater than a navi.
Why? I mean, it's like it's a it's a
it's a concept in chassidus.
Um
>> [clears throat]
>> because
a navi doesn't really understand what
he's seeing.
I mean, that's his that's his maila,
too. He's a he's a conduit. He's just
telling you he's reporting. He's a
faithful reporter. But, he doesn't
understand it. He doesn't need to
understand it.
Chacham understands it.
So, that's why the chacham is greater
than than the navi.
So,
in the Rebbe's Torah, it's like
you start seeing
how
the reality that the Rebbe's speaking to
doesn't become less relevant. Doesn't
become Oh, it's dated, you know, that
was for then.
It's more prescient. It's more
um
ahead of its time
even if it were a navua.
I mean, the Rebbe said the Fiddler Rebbe
was a navi. Shvacht him, right? The
famous sicha about
navi she badreinu.
So, but that to me that's not
I
I don't get impressed with navua cuz I
don't know I don't really relate to it.
But,
I don't know if I ever had a navua, but
I know that I've
understood a concept before. Maybe on a
very low level. I mean, I'm not such a
genius, but I've learned a concept. I've
understood a concept.
So, then, you know, that impresses me.
That excites me.
That you can have someone teaching a
hochma
that doesn't become less applicable as
the time goes on, but it becomes more
obviously applicable as the time goes
on. That that's wild. And it's exciting.
It's inspiring.
Like, if you want a clear understanding
of life,
just learn the Rebbe's Torah.
Just go learn what the Rebbe is saying
about life.
And you will have a better understanding
of your life.