Can Science Help Us Get Closer to God?

So welcome. Thank you for coming. Shave off to everybody. My name is Daniel Nim. I'm a professor at Bar University and I want to share with you some insights on how from a scientific perspective we can see and we can get close to him. The the goal of this presentation I want to make clear a few things. One, the goal is not to incite anybody to be a scientist. The purpose in here is to incite you to get closer to Baru to seek in everything that we do and to go to the bet midash is a good place and learn. That's number one. Number two, I'll try to speak in a way that everybody can understand a laneman language. Once in a while for the ones who are more pushy on the science side, I will say maybe a few words like this and this that you may not understand. If you don't understand, no worry. We continue. We move to the next topic. Okay, with this premise, let's get started. So, first of all, anybody knows what this? >> Yes. >> How long is it? >> Uh, an hour and a half, but you can leave anytime you want. Okay, any anybody knows what this Okay, we we'll figure it out at the end. We figured out this and many other things. We're trying to see things about creatures that convert air in water and creatures that convert blood into milk and animal that has a light with a 100% efficiency conversion. How many processes are in the body? Are there more processes in the bodies or grains of s in earth or earth resurrection from animal world and also resurrection from human beings? We're going to see a few things like this and in the sense is there a life after this life for us. So this and more ready. So first of all, what's the goal of life? We have a source called the mess sharim beautiful amazing muspher written by an Italian cabalist. Yes, I specify Italian and he said the goal of life we don't have to look so far. People are so confused today. There's no one looking far. Man was created only to delight in Hashem and to enjoy the splendor of his presence. For that is the true pleasure. And he says basically all the other pleasures that people think about like for example for me would be a pizza. Well, it's a nice temporary kind of pleasure. It's not the true pleasure. The true pleasure is to be close. And let's see what it means. We'll see some examples hopefully more concrete. But the problem is he says there are some obstacles and uh he says who put some some obstacles around there especially material desires and in fact today you know this is but next week we'll talk about the and I think we're invaded this term a friend of mine gave it to me we are invited by aut that surrounds us here we are kind of shielded but just to give examples was atheism there's no god we just came from nothing uh no creator so no reward no punishment we can do what we want evolution I have we've learned a lot about abioenesis evolution and so on a bunch of nonsense from beginning to end but covered in a leouch that makes it that it has an appearance of truth and unfortunately if you speak to most scientists they will tell you that this is and in fact it's not true Because when you look in carefully in detail from a scientific perspective, you see there are two too many flaws. The problem is you need to have a very scientific eye to see this because it's it's very difficult to go into those details. And if this is if we believe in evolution, we came from the monkey. Uh who do you think you are? You evolved from the monkey. You know, remember if for those who were here last uh last time I made a a kind of a joke, there is a little Johnny that goes goes to uh to daddy. He said, "Daddy, daddy, where do we come from? How we came from here?" He said, "But uh Johnny, everybody knows evolution. There was a fish. He flapped his flaps for thousands of hundreds of thousands of year. He became a lizard. The lizard became a donkey. The donkey became a monkey. And here we are." Thank you, daddy. But he's not convinced. So, he goes to money. Money. Mommy. Uh, where do we come from? Where do you come from? He says, "But Johnny, everybody knows God created Adam and Eve and they had children. They had children had children and here we are." He said, "Mommy, daddy told me that we come from the monkey." He said, "But Johnny, daddy talked about his family. I'm talking about mine." >> So, you decide which family you want to belong. And then, of course, the time wasters of the generation, the smartphone, the internet, they become zombies. Uh, transform. M you just walk around you see people are are addicted that's more than a drug and of course fake news one for example free porcupine you know about free porcup from the river to the sea porcupine will be free you know that right right so they that's that's one all over the place there's this by the way we want to export porcupine porcup porcupines to England France Canada Australia and other countries that like them very much so we should do an export of porcupines there or other things. You know, you have a 5-year-old girl, Khalila, playing with a truck or with a Kalila Khalila, a soldier, a toy soldier, and immediately the mother brings her to the doctor to do an operation to become a monster after that. This is we live in insane times. And then so at the end of the day, eat, drink, and be merry because anyway, tomorrow you'll die. So have world. But the Torah gives us an answer. And as always there is a suret the sur is put a filter put a block put something a stop to stop this mabul coming into your mind millers atal said what is better to have an encounter with a mama bear who lost her cub or watch TV for an hour a mama bear who lost her cub is a very dangerous animals and there are very serious consequences he said it's much better to the encounter with mama bear because the garbage get gets into the mind will never come out but the the physical injuries eventually will be healed. That's what he says. I don't know if I would like to make the mama bear but just to to make the sense. But this is not the purpose of today. We're going to focus on the asettov. That's what I want that we focus today. And there are I I I kind of I think there are two ways the acettov to overcome this this mabul invasion. One of them obvious study Torah. come to the bed midrash and learn. I call this the scenic route. You know, sometimes when you want to go to a certain place for vacation, you can take the scenic route. It takes longer. It's kind of longer usually, but you have amazing sightseeing and you see behind the sightseeing. Even though uh Rafa I I heard the story that he was on the helicopter and below there was kind of a canyon or something something amazing. Ra look please amazing amazing it's amazing he was there with his gamarra didn't didn't take the eyes off the gar but it's once in a lifetime we see something like this says says once in lifetime I have something like this in whatever he was learning at the time. So this is the the the synic learn Torah and uh and basically when we learn Torah we're holding the world. Let's see some examples of where we can see amazing things on the Torah. And of course I'm as a scientist I will show you some scientific examples but you can find things on psychology and things on any other topic. An example how many stars are there in the sky? That's one one question that is very interesting question. And let's look up at science. By the way, when you when you look with a naked eye, assuming you don't have light streets and assuming there's no pollution, assuming you're in a mountain, etc. Maximum you can see something like 2,000 stars. So you think about who gave au numerous stars. If I were what kind of is this? This is less people than on here, right? So this is uh what kind of is this? And well let's say how many stars there are but he didn't say that I think right so the in the telescope was invented only in6008 so before6008 we can only see some maximum 2,000 stars zon and then of course the Italian take advantage in6009 Galo Galile starts Galo Gal starts looking at the stars inventing better telescopes in 1800 which is only 200 years ago for change we counted only something like less 50,000 stars. This was French work. Then in the mid 1800s we went to 320,000 stars and to up to 19 9 um 1,950 we had something like 5 million stars. So remember 50 years ago we thought there were only maximum 5 million stars. And then came the game changer the satellites. I remember I was at university in France and they talked about the Hubble satellite. I didn't understand what was a big fuss about it. But bottom line, the satellites changed everything. Satellite the Hubble discovered we can see 10,000 galaxies. Then we sent the Gaia satellites 1.7 billion stars. And then today there's a Jame Webb satellite. And if you look at the different sources, we cannot count the stars, but we can estimate their number. And their number is between 10 to the 18 to 10 to the 24. 10 to the 18 means it's a one followed by 18 zeros which means it's a billion billions right and 10 to the 24 is a million billion billions okay so humongous humongous numbers now scientific caveat first of all there are scientists you need to be very careful when they do extrapolations and assumptions those are the key things and evolution that's exactly where you have to look at it's like you know the lawyers they do you a a contract and then there's the fine print font four that you cannot look with the telescope, right? And and then with the microscope and then and then that's where the where that's where the the dangerous stuff is, right? So let's look at the at the fine print. First of all, we only can estimate the number of stars in our galaxy, the Milky Way, to be 10 to the 11. Okay, that's number one. It's an estimate. Second, we can only estimate the number of galaxies 2 to the power of 10 to 2 * 2 10 the^ of 12 and it's a second estimate. And when they do a calculation, they basically multiply and they multiply the number of stars of a galaxy by the number of galaxies. And both are estimates because we estimate that all galaxies are the same number of stars as our galaxy, which is a very gross gross gross gross gross estimation. So >> stars, >> sorry, >> can we see individual stars? >> Yeah, but you cannot see the whole thing. How they do? They take for example a little solid angle corner and they count there are 70 million stars in this millimeter square and they multiply by the solid thing to get an extraolation but >> for example yes of galaxies. So bottom line you have three levels of of assumptions here that you need to be careful. That's why I'm put there is a caveat of which number is this. Um and then uh let's look at Talmud the Talmud the Gamara it was done something like in the year completed in the year 500 which is something like over a thousand years before the first telescope. So what do you want the gamarra to know about that right? So if you look at 32b it says so the complained to you abandoned us you don't care about us and said look for you are created this amount of galaxies and this amount of stars for each galaxies and legions and cartoon and things that and you if you if you take this sugia and you make the calculation in there you find the number which is 1.0643 10 ^ of 18. So first of all is in the range of what the scientists estimate today. But second when you think about this is amazing because legal was written before the first telescope. Right? So someone writes that there are some 10 to the 18 uh stars in the sky is a mishuga. Can you imagine being in the year 500 and going in the streets I have news for you. Science says that there are 10 to the 18 stars. And they say the guy let's call immediately the ambulance put him in you know with a with a white uh shirt like this because it's it's ridiculous you can see maximum 2000 guy says 10 to the 18 the camera knew it before in fact interesting story that I heard uh presby was a scientist at the bell lab he's maybe retired at the bell labs bell labs is also we have Robert Wilson and Arnold Pensas who were the discoverers and Nobel prize winners for the big bang Right. They discovered the big bang. So, Robert Wilson is a Princess is a is a Jew. Uh H Presby first when they won the Nobel Prize, he used to be go in the car with Wilson before and Wilson after that. You know, I'm so important. I'm not taking you in the car anymore. But the second thing was uh once Presby asked Wilson, tell me how many stars are there in the sky? And he says, everybody knows it's 10 to the 18. And uh Presby answered, it's exactly 1.0643 06 43 10 the 18 and of course Wilson said what what's okay didn't understand so anyway it's amazing example but you may say maybe you know maybe the gamar is good for big numbers but when we come to precision it's not very good so let's do something else let's look at the dur the duration of the lunar cycle the lunar cycle science only in the ' 70s you know after the uh went allegedly went to the moon in 1969 we put in there some retrorelectors some uh some mirrors basically that reflect light and with a powerful telescope with a laser retroreflector on the moon an atomic clock you send the laser and you measure and then you wait for the cycle and you send the laser again and you stop the clock so you have a precise measure which is in days oh here is one translation I forgot okay uh 29.530588 days okay fine this is uh but one thing to Be careful of course in science you always have uh tolerances on any instrument you know the clock the laser etc etc so you need to take take into account that no scientific measure is precise exactly there are always potential ranges of fluctuation please take a seat there are seats in there u g as before year 500 this time we're something like 1,400 years before the retro reflectors and the laser and the atomic clock and You look at 25a and it says that says uh that he received from his father a tradition about how long is the lunar cycle and when you make the calculation you find 29.53059414 which is a difference of 02% which is half a second. Okay. So that's quite it's not possible to do a measurement like this without uh without instruments or anything. You can do averages of lunar cycles and get the more maybe you can get two digits after the comma. But to have all this and by the way we defer only on the digit number digit number five is is correct because when you round this you you have a nine here but the other three the Naza doesn't have and Ravi Mansour insure on this he said well give them some more years they will figure out that this is the number okay so we can we can move on and this was basically this was the scenic route okay this is go to Gimara but you know some for some people it may be difficult So there is a second option which is the highway. You want to go from A to B. You can take the scenic route very enjoyable and so on but takes time or you can take the highway. The highway is much faster. And the highway is basically look at nature and smell the roses look and ask yourself questions. And the another beautiful of Msar said that basically the most direct way to gain a clear understanding of Hashem's presence is to examine the wisdom that is evident in his creations. So what I want to do with you today is to see a few examples here and there and see the wisdom of a kadosh baru in in it. So let's say uh last time when we met a year ago we talked about the 40 orders of orders of magnitude in the universe. When you go to the subatomic particles to the dimension of the universe you have something like 40 zero differences between the smallest and the biggest and this is according to what we know today. So it may be that in a few years it will even increase. But this is unfathomable. There's no other uh measure or anything in the world that we can can spend 40 or of magnitude. So let's have a few examples and we saw also last time this famous sentence of Rafal was the chief rabbi of France. This is the quote in French original and this is the translation in English. Nature is the modest veil of protection that God extends over man so as not to force him to believe in God. So Hashem makes in a way Hashem doesn't want miracles. You know there was creat and he said there was a strong wind come. Why do you need a strong wind? Also the people at MIT can split a swimming pool with the powerful fans. So you can think that was that was something feasible but it was a miracle right in fact on this topic raik says well the fact that it opened exactly when we needed it it's this is already I mean uh he said in French is a it's a good piece of luck that it happened at this point right. So anyway, and the example I want to show you, we'll see this sentence again at the end because now it can speak to you if you were here last year. If you are not, then it may not speak completely to you. We'll see at the end. Let's see one example. This is technical. So there are materials the reaction of of surfaces with water. Okay, different surfaces interact with water in different ways. There are surfaces that are called superhydrophobic like the lotus leaf. You need you try to wet it and it doesn't wet. The water basically rolls down and the leaf remains dry. And this happens because the surface has a lot of tiny sticks as for the technical people Cassie Baxter if you want. And basically uh the water remains as a sphere and it just rolls out. We say the contact angle is close to 180°. And on the opposite side you have superhydrophilic surfaces. So super hydrophilic first surfaces are surfaces where basically the water will cover the surface completely. Most surfaces we have are in between. So it rains and you have drops on your wheelch contact angle or whatever it is. But this is a very interesting topic. Super hydrophilic superhydrophobic. So hydrophobic hates water. Water remains a sphere. Hydrophilic loves water attracts water. Clear? So with this let's look let's look at an interesting creation of a boru the Namibian desert beetle a little beetle and he lives in the Namibian desert. Namibian desert is a very very dry desert as all deserts. But once in a while you have a tiny wind with a tiny tiny amount of humidity. And what he does he puts himself like this with the with the his wings and his wings have areas that are super hydrophilic meaning that they attract water and the rest of the of the surface is super hydrophobic. So what happens is that oop okay so what so what happens is that basically on those dots that are super hydrophilic the water is accumulating accumulating accumulating until it becomes a big drop and when it becomes big enough that gravity will make it fall what happens it will fall in the mouth of the beetle and the beetle will drink. Okay, that's that's what happens with this with this guy. And in fact, we use that technology to do some screens in areas that are very humid to collect some water. And you'll see in here that you we can collect water from the air. So you we take the humidity of the air, we put in there. But it's really amazing who made this beetle in a place that is so inhospitable. There's no way you can find any water and he can transform the air into water. >> Collect the water. >> Sorry. What does he have to collect the water? >> He has those dots super hydrophilic where the water is attracted and builds builds builds until it becomes a heavy drop and the heavy drop will fall by gravity because he has the wings on vertical position and it will they will fall in his mouth. >> What part is >> the hydro hydrophobic the rest of the wing? It's a bunch of tiny dots superhydrophilic on a superhydrophobic complete surface of the wing. Okay. Of course, the animal that can convert blood into milk, you know, it it's the cow. And it's a very complicated system where there are some nervous reaction to activate this thing. And the milk, for example, from a cow is 4 to 6% fat content in the milk. But not all animals have the the same thing. By the way, I'm not here unfortunately to tell you the how it works because really I couldn't understand. But if you're interested, it's a process like this. You have basically the blood comes in and gets transformed into milk and milk comes out. Voila. Okay. And to my knowledge, there's no scientist that can do anything to transform blood into milk. But what is fascinating here is not only that, by the way, a a cow produces 145 L of milk per day. So, I have an idea for you. Instead of buying the milk from the supermarket, if you had a cow in here, then every day you'd have milk for the whole coland. Now the issue is that it consumes something like 140 L of water and 60 kilos of grass. So we need to find these. Okay. But anyway, the funny thing is that a different animals have different content in their milk and the milk is tuned exactly for their children. For example, the here has a 60% uh fat in the in the milk. Why? Because they live in very cold environment. And in very cold environment, you need fat to resist from the cold. So it's completely different thing. I'll show you something that is this is the one for me is mindboggling is the Tamar walabi. You know every mother has two breasts. This one is not exception. But the funny thing is they had the two breasts give two different types of milk. On one breast it gives a milk rich in sugar for the newborns and the other one rich in protein and fat for the older children. So the new baby comes here and the older baby comes there and they and those two chemical factories are different and separate and one is the milk rich and sugar and the other one is rich in fat. Amazing. Okay says when you meditate and you look there's no limit when you look at the creations of you see that it's it's it's unbelievable. So can you Tamar Walby? I don't know if anybody heard that but when I saw this I thought wow unbelievable. Okay light source with 100% efficiency. I don't know if you realize how problematic the light is. I mean we had incandescent light that was consuming a lot when he was in France. I remember we had the um uh what do you call those lights that that shoot on the screen on the on the ceiling. They're very powerful halogen lamps. Hogen lamps. Beautiful. But they were 500 W. So those things mash consume a bunch of electricity and today we have the LEDs. Why is this important? Uh because uh look when you take your plane in in the evening you look at the at the lights in there you see how many lights are there it's an amazing if you could invent a light bulb that has a 10% better efficiency you would become a billionaire right so in fact look incandescent light converted only 5% of the energy in in light and today when we get to the LEDs you are close to 50% passing from the fluorescent to a something like 30%. But there's an animal that Takad Baroo created the firefly that converts 100% chemical energy into light. And if you are interested, this is the chemical reaction. Very simple. It's a biochemical reaction without generation of heat that converts luciferin and oxygen and catalyzed by lucce. So if you are interested, this is the formula. Okay, you want to make a fortune, try to make this. You'll have a light with 100% conversion efficiency. Unbelievable. So let's get to this. What is this? What is this thing? It looks complicated, right? Anybody has a guess? >> What? >> The you see there's many many things inside. So my guess eventually would have been maybe, you know, sometimes you have the the map of the metro, the underground, right? And it's kind of complicated. And I looked at the longest one is the one in Beijing, but the one in Beijing looks like this, which looks much simpler than this thing, right? And by the way, the um okay, I'll tell you later. So I'll tell you what it is. This is metabolic pathways. This is metabolic pathways that happen in our human body. A different kind of reactions that happen in there. So I understand it's not readable. That's why you had the problem. So I'm going to make a a magnification of this for you. Now you can understand, right? Okay. Is it clear now? Right. So this is only one possible pathway. There are something like 3,000 to 5,000 known known meaning many we don't know metabolic reactions in the human metabolism. By the way, this chart I had a hard time to find it and I couldn't find a better resolution because it's the old one. ROS is working on the new one. I don't know for how long they have been working, but the new one is not out there. So, this is the old one. I don't want to tell you what the new one is. Maybe next year we'll we'll we'll see the new one together. Okay. And these reactions are grouped into hundreds of metabolic pathways like glycolysis, crab cycle, bet oxidation and so on. So sometimes you have one thing that doesn't work. Um I had a few months ago loeno I had a a kidney stone. I didn't know about kidney stones at all before but the pain was basically I was bent into two. And of course I go to the term the urgency and here in Israel they're so kind always so without they don't look at you you can die on the spot. So once I got they looked at me and bottom line what is it is one of those 5,000 cycles then they don't work properly right so we have all this thing going on all the time and one of them didn't work. Uh by the way what is this one? This is another complicated thing. This is a secular cellular and molecular processes. So we have we have in the body something like 30,000 billion cells. Okay. That by the way cells uh uh there are new cells and cells die. And in fact if funny a very interesting thing you know companies are spending billions on anti-aging stuff right? Uh what is a aging is fabulous when you think about this. We are programmed for cells to grow at a certain rate, then stop to grow and then degrade over certain time. When you think about this, programmed exactly to have a whole cycle. So we we take it as a horrible thing, the aging thing. But when you think about this is wow did it's everything is programmed calculated exactly right. And uh by the way uh we have uh something like a little more of bacteria. We didn't know and in fact those bacteria most of them are nice because they're in the gut and they help for the digestion without without the bacteria it would be very difficult to digest and we have by the way different types of cells right the red blood cells the neurons muscle cells and they're all different so think one thing I saw in a in in a book amazing when you think about this a baby is born inside from one cell the cell divides and then has to create cells that go for muscles cells that go for the eye cells that go for the bone cells going to go for the stomach cells. It's and and there's a whole process orchestrated exactly project management. Okay. 2 million cells go in the stomach there and then others go for the feet and that one for the nails and this is for the teeth and this is wow. Okay. Anyway, and it's impossible to count all the processes, but they they say the number of molecular reactions and cellular processes almost infinite. But and there are so many processes that happen at the same time in the cell. Thousands to tens of thousands of biochemical reactions take place every second in each cell. We have 30,000 billion cells times thousands to tens of thousands. Bottom line multiply that we have something like more than 10 to the power of 20 one followed by 20 zeros which is 100 billion billions right more than the number of stars in the sky that goes on at any time in the human body. Are there more grains of sands on earth or processes that go on on the body any second? Well, I found as a source that the estimated number of grains, this is type of in the sand is something like 7.5. So, we have more processes going on in the body than grains of sand. This I have to thank Raf Cornfield who gave me the tip on on this one and I checked it and he was absolutely right. Let's talk about this guy. Well, it's not me. I I don't want to be insulting to anybody. This is Wiki Wikipedia. I copied it and and and you know this is the classic picture but I think the real picture should be this one and this is what we unfortunately we observe today. Uh right so the evolution of dump I'm not going to redo what I did last year on evolution but I want just to make a a small recap and show you two new examples. So we had one thing we had we have to distinguish uh evolution there are three things in fact there are two things and one that has nothing to do with evolution but people could put it in the same chand of evolution. So evolution is divided in micro evolution macro evolution. Micro evolution is exactly what Darwin observed when he made his trip to the Galapagos and he saw that the finches in the different islands had different beaks adapted to the environment that they had. And this is called micro evvolution. And micro evolution, for example, is for example, you see this guy, he looks like a good guy, but I think he's a little overweight and needs some muscles. So we send him to the gym and he becomes like this. Right? So if this happens, that's called micro evolution. A guy who plays piano for 2 years and then runs a concert is micro evolution. A guy who goes to the sun and becomes 10, it's called micro evolution. And in fact, today with epigenetics, we learned even more. The gam supports micro evolution. the famous story we saw last time about the guy who knocks on the door of where is he? Where's Hil? Where's Hil? Right. And and he tells him that for example the term that a certain type of people have the eyes that are very slit like this because there are sands and so when you're there they have sands you don't want to have the sand in the eye and so you squint. Okay? Or you have two and big dog and a small dog go together they have a baby and it's another type of hybrid. But a dog is a dog is a dog. That's called micro evolution. And nobody argues with this. The problem is that Mr. Darwin made an extrapolation. And this is the danger in science. In fact, Rav got spoke about the three different mistakes in extrapolation is one of them. Extrapolation is a very big mistake can be done. So he what he did he said well we extrapolate and then we he with his cohorts he came up with this uh hypothesis of evolution. There spaces there. Okay. And and so he um so he so the story the narrative the the fable is that you had a fish on a pond. The pond started drying out and the fish started flapping his uh his uh thing for hundreds of thousands of years and because of flapping they became leg and they became leg and he became a lizard and the lizard became a whatever and then the whatever became a donkey and then a monkey and then here we are. Right? This is the standard evolution narrative which when you think mimman doesn't make any sense either from if it's the transformation is slow like Darwin said or if you go with punctuated evolution like um Steven J gold said uh mimi doesn't doesn't make sense and when you look at we saw last time something like 15 reasons for things for contradictions to the hypothesis of evolution I'm not going to do into this until this one there's too much evidence against cannot be considered a scientific hypothesis but unfortunately it takes places in the scientific journals and uh irrespective of any criteria that is applied on any other discipline. For example, in medicine, when you want to prove that the vaccine or a medicine is effective, you need specific statistics. Here you just come with a statistics of one chance out of 10 to the power of five of 200, which is much much more than the number of atoms known in the universe and and the paper is accepted, which is absolutely ridiculous. And the third thing is something that doesn't have any any connection with evolution, but they use it in the same context is abiogenesis, origin of life. There was a famous experiment of Miller and Yuri where basically they exploded some gases and they found out an amino acid and because of that you see life is possible. Okay. The story is like saying I explode a whole country and I found one nail. So I say yeah by explosion I can build a car. So this was this is the equivalent of the thing. It's first of all it's off topic and second we see if someone is interested we saw very in much detail there's a a professor called Jim Tour James Tour go in there he gives you the science very complicated the chemistry is extremely complicated he proves to you this is there's no chance but unfortunately they there and okay I don't want to say anything let's continue but let's now see a couple of examples and um this is the homework okay last time we did the the theory now we do the practice there is uh first of all one guy in Mashimo I don't I just put his initials I don't want to encourage anybody to go and buy his books uh and this guy says like many others biology is the study of complicated things that give the appearance of having been designed for a purpose appearance don't get wrong yeah the beauty of biology is really the illusion of design is an illusion natural selection other scientific theories are superiors to the god hypothesis the illusion of intelligent design in explaining the living world and the cosmos. So it's all an illusion. Don't be don't get fooled guys. Don't get fooled. It's all an illusion. That's right. And one of his friends, Professor Tim Bara made this. And you see this is so funny. So he said let's take a Corvette Chevrolet Corvette is a sports car American sports car model 1953 and let's compare it with the model of 1963 and then let's compare it to the model of 1968 and the model of 1978 and so on and he says and I'll do the professor's voice now I can do I'll do professor voice the descent with modification is overwhelmingly obvious this is what paleontologists do with fossils and the evidence is so solid and comprehensive that it cannot be denied by reasonable people. When he said that, his colleagues exploded laughing. Exploded laughing. He says, "What kind of an idiot is this?" This is called the Baras Blender. Why is it called the Baras Blender? Because everybody knows that the Chevrolet Corvette had thousands and thousands of engineers working on every single part. This is the most intelligent design design that you can imagine building a car right and use it for this. But I think there's a second mistake he made. I found out I thought later and I found anybody sees a second mistake in this most you cannot say because you know what I tell the second mistake is that even if this was correct this is micro evolution. A car is a car is a car. He didn't say that the car becames a became a helicopter or a house. It's a car. Nobody complained. Nobody contradicts micro evolution. So the guy in my opinion made two blunders. The blunder everybody knows is because he took an intelligent design example to kind of parallel to what he wanted to be not intelligent design evolution. But the second is he took the wrong example. If you had an example of a card becoming a a house then uh yeah one we can make right maybe and so basically the what I would say he he helped us out because basically intelligent design it's an intelligent design life is an intelligent design that gives the illusion of an evolution it's an illusion and in fact why Hashem made it like this I don't know because you can find fossils you can make stories out of it and so on and had some sense of humor that we we find things and We can make stories out of it. I mean we have Be right. So in fact Ravikor Miller says something amazing. He said why Darwin came exactly when there was the industrial revolution time which means that the science was getting better and better and better with micro microscopes and etc etc because otherwise we would not have any. If Darun did not come up with his thing today, everybody would be a Min. Everybody would be M you would not have you would have to build six M for this if if Darwin was not if Darwin was not there. But Hashem wants to give us reward. So we need to have something else to to have the back balanced at 50%. Another example, let's do the eye. Last time we talked about the year. Let's have a little example of the eye. The eye is an opto mechanical electrochemical sensor. Okay? Because you see the light enters inside projects into the retina is transformed the light signal is transformed into an electromechanical signal goes through the optic nerve goes to the brain and we see images. Uh it's lubricated 12 times per minute. The lens has a variable geometry controlled by the celiary muscles. It's very fascinating because you know if you have cameras you know that when you have grand angle or a a zoom it's just that the l you have a different lens and the or you change the distance of the lens from the the film but here you don't change the distance since this is fixed it's the geometry of the lens that changes it's fascinating it's the the lens itself and can you imagine how many gazillion times the lens has changed now I'm looking at you and then I'm looking at him and already it changes the the lens Right? Uh and all this and then on the retina you have four five million 4.5 million cones for 10 million colors who can distinguish 10 million colors and 91 million rods for black and white. So a a a lot a lot of cells in there and they convert the optical signal into electrochemical signal that goes to the brain. The estimated resolution is 576 megapixels. Just for those who have iPhones, I think I don't know what the lightest iPhone is, but I heard it's something like 45 or something like this. So, there's still work to do to reach the resolution of of the of the eye. It uh it sees up to 550 frames per second. And you have six synchronized muscles that control the the the the eyes. And why we have two eyes? Because we want to see distance. You know, with only one one eye would be difficult to drive, for example. We see in 3D. And in fact we see with the brain. So that's one point I want to show you that the eye is an amazing sensor but really we see with the brain. I want to show you an example. So before the example I want to show you a technology that uh to two examples of this one. They did an experiment with people. They put them glasses that inverted the images. So I would have seen you with the head down and the feet up. And they put the glasses and those people were very disconcerning that they they couldn't they were very but they got used to it. They got used to it and after that they got used to this and they could live normally with those glasses. The day they took the glasses off, they were again they couldn't understand what's going on here and they need to rejust themselves because now the brain now was used to see things upside down and now that you put them back normal side that they a technology is amazing for blind people is uh there is a device like a lollipop that you put in the tongue and that lollipop is connected to a camera. The camera converts the signal into a bunch of electric uh signals that are on this lollipop and the tongue will sense the electrical signals and by sensing the electrical signal it can re of course it needs some training. The the blind person can rebuild some um images there. I saw videos of blind people that were playing ball with with their son launching and and catching the ball or driving a bicycle with with this device. Pretty amazing. Okay. But let's do an experiment ourselves. What do you see here? And who knows doesn't say. What do you see? >> Yeah. You see a couple of people here. You see water. You see a tree, right? Anybody see something else? >> Yes. >> Huh? >> Yes. >> Oh, you see it now? Everybody now see the fetus? >> What? >> Look at the blue. you. I'm helping you out. Do you see the baby? Now you see the baby. >> Now that you see the baby, you see the baby. Right now I trained your mind to see the baby. You see with your brain. You don't see the So all the optical illusion tricks are all because we see with our brain and the eyes are just the tool to get the signal to our brain. Pretty amazing, huh? So we would say that the eye is a pretty amazing thing, right? Unbelievable thing. And in fact, Darwin Darwin himself wrote that it would be absurd to the highest level to think that the eye such a complex device could be the result of evolution. He himself said >> when did he say >> in his book but but he added he added but if we found a series of fossils that went from a simple eye to a complex eye like the human eye and the human eye is what we call a camera eye. you know what I described to you but there are simple eyes like insects have you know light on off so no camera no retina no things like this so there are simple eyes so if you find fossils basically you find at the bottom the fossils with the simple eyes and at the top the complex eyes then you could make hypothesis of evolution and in fact in nature there are plenty of eyes there are simple eyes and complex eyes but the problem is that when you show the f through the fossils you see them all over the place you have the some some complex at the bottom, some simple eyes at the top, etc., etc. So there's no sequence in there that makes any sense. So that was the first tactic from an evolutionary P point to say that. So now what can they what can evolutionists do? Tactic number two, let's let's start number two. The eye, if you take the the the retina, you see that there are a bunch of different types of cells, but the light comes from here. And the cells that sense the the light are at the back. And there's a bunch of stuff before. So they say, you know, this is amazing. Evolutionist says that the eye is the result of evolution because it's imperfect. It's imperfect. What we saw before it's an imperfect design. Why? Because the light sensitive cells, the cones and the rods are pointing in the opposite direction than in the eye. And in fact, the scientists have studied the eye in great detail. And since it says since the light sensitive cells have a high metabolism, they need a lot of blood. If they were at the front, we would be almost blind because the blood would cover the image. So it is on the back to allow all the flow of the blood that need to nourish those cells to be sick. So bad luck. So they the third tactic of an evolutionist in in 1851 um there's a German Henriish Müller that found that there are some cells that are at the B at the beginning that they are now called mirror cells and those cells they have help a lot to see so well. So the vision is so good because the mirror cells make some wave guide uh thing that helps to see well. So the revolutionist came up and they wrote that u they claimed that this confirms the eye was imperfect and evolution added the Miller cells making the eye perfect for vision. So the problem is that there is no evidence of any eye without the Miller cell. So it's just another story. So it's unbelievable how you can you see you need to go into the details to try to find out where the shaker lies. Okay, let's switch gear. Let's go down to an example interesting example. The butterfly right now we are changing topics and we are leading to the final part of of this talking. Let's say so the the butterfly deposits something like hundreds or thousands of eggs on on leaves of a certain tree that they like. Those are the little tiny eggs but many of them will not make it. A and what happens is that uh at some point those eggs hatch and there will be the kind of a wormlike creature that comes out very very very hungry. So hungry that starts eating the egg and after it eats the egg starts eating the leaf where it's the egg was positioned and then starts uh eating others but in the meantime it keeps on growing and changing skin. It changes skin and grows and grows and grows and at some point it has finished his life as a caterpillar and it uh connects itself under a branch. It makes kind of a connection and then he stays upside down and it starts basically disintegrating himself liquefying himself. So the whole thing is called the pupa or the chrysalis and it gets a a last uh a last skin change. But bottom line, what was going on in there, it's basically getting liquefied and you and in fact finally it mimatizes with the branch amazingly enough it can it take the color of the branch and then after that you wait a few weeks and then you have a butterfly that comes out. So we'll see now the butterfly coming out from this pre and if you look at one of the pupa and you open it up you see there is a green soup in there. That's this is this is what was before the uh butterfly. So let's let's summarize. Let's summarize. You have an animal that is alive. Yet it's transformation number one into a liquid which is apparently dead. There's no sign of life on that liquid. They studied it. In fact, I was once at the Shabbat with a girl that was doing a PhD on this. And I asked her, "Is it true that the pupa is is dead?" And she said, "Yes." brain limpies too. >> Everything. >> No brain, no nothing. >> Nothing. Nothing. Liquids. Uh there are some there are some structures in there but nothing. That's uh no no life. No nothing. There's a it's a soup. >> Let's let's have a look. Let's have a look. Okay. And then you have the live animal that comes out. This is exactly what you're saying. There was a study that was amazing. They made a study. They took some of those caterpillars, right? When they were caterpillars and they passed a certain order and when they passed the order, they gave a shock. Order, shock. This is a Pavlov experiment, right? Order, shock, order, shock. Now the the caterpillar was conditioned with the order. So now they passed the order and the caterpillar started trembling because knew that the shock was coming. Then it attached itself, transformed, butterfly came, they passed the order and the butterfly shook. Which means that the conscience of the caterpillar went into the butterfly passing from the liquid that state. So two questions here. How the chrysalis knows to to change the color to mimic the branch that it is attached to. And second question, how can we explain that the butterfly remembers the experience the experience it has as a caterpillar? How can we do this? This is this is fact documented. So now that we have seen on the animal, let's go to the hard hard subject that is on everybody's mind. And this at least this will come to the point that um uh is relevant to us. No, we we are not uh we're not so much interested in in in butterflies but on ourselves. So this is an example of resurrection of the dead. Is there life after this life? This is a big question, right? And bothers a lot of people. So there are many things that are interesting. For example, some people come out with individual talents. You know, there are some people I remember a friend of mine in Boston. He had a son and his son was average kid, but he knew how to play piano like a pro and he didn't take a single lesson. How is it possible? Sometime you have everybody knows you know sometimes is born when he's born this guy is good in math, this guy is good in languages, this guy is good in literature, right? So it's possible that everybody comes with the certain things. So you may wonder is or or there was the famous story of the kid that you said a puk on anything on the on he was repeating the puk. So there's something went wrong in the in the hitting of the mouth before before he came out. But this is not scientific. Uh didio savo is the famous is the example I gave before. Someone who basically is a normal normal everything but you know has an amazing talent for something there. I remember I saw one of a guy who could remember numbers. No, he knew what he said. No, he knew all the phone book or something like this. He can tell you the the phone numbers of anybody on the phone book. So things like this or the deja vu sometimes you know we have an experience and we say I've been here before. I live you feel like you live this thing before but you didn't but oh this is not scientific or you have people with inborn phobias. Oh, come uh you know I don't know uh ladies usually their their phobias of cockroaches for example or whatever it is. So but all those are nice but they're not not fully scientific all those indicators. But there are two scientific indicators in my opinion. One of them and this is what we're analyzed today regression under hypnosis and clinical death. So, we're going to see examples of these two and both are supported by thousands and thousands of testimonies recorded, scientifically recorded. There's a lot a lot of information. It's not just one one thing out there. Of course, I'll give you I will not give you thousands. I'll give you one or two examples. And what is scientific in there? In all of these cases, they reveal information that could not have been possible to reveal just based on current physical understanding. So for example, if someone under hypnosis telling you something that will prove true later, that's that's not that that shows you something. If you have someone that is clinically dead and can see what's going on in another country or in another room, that's something that is scientifically interesting. Okay, let's see. Let's see those examples. Regression under hypnosis. The patients basically with hypnosis, you can regress people to previous times. So they can even regress be regressed to previous lives. And in fact during those sessions many spoke foreign languages, antique dialects or even dead languages. There are cases where they had to call an expert say what the heck is he talking about? And they say oh this is an language that disappeared in the 1600s or something whatever or we'll see some examples. Many have revealed facts that could have been known only by historians or that were revealed true sometime after the session. example Glenn Ford. Glenn Ford is a famous American actor and he was interviewed by a team at UCLA uh on those sessions. It is a so on the third sessions he started speaking with the Scottish accent and he said that he was a guy called John Stewart. He lived he lived in the 18th century in Elgen in Scotland. uh he taught music and had stables with horses and basically died young in 18 uh 12 at 32 and was buried in the Elgen cemetery close to the Baker family. Uh and after the session they asked Glenn Ford about this and he said you know the Scottish accent doesn't surprise me because I know how to do accents but the music and he said okay can you please play music and he started playing music and that was a thing he never played music before he started playing shop and other things like this this is ridic something something special and they checked the facts they went to Elgen they checked the cemetery they checked the days they checked the the stones and everybody he said was correct everything he said was correct Uh on the fourth session he had one life that he could not reveal. He said it was black. He didn't want to say what it is. And then he went back one one life before and he said he was a French guy called Lomvo. He spoke with a Parisian dialect of 17th century. I don't know who can do this. I mean I would have liked him under hypnosis to explain to me some of the rashes because probably that would have really helped. And he was he said he was responsible of the stable in Versailles which was on the left side and that he died in a duel in 1684. So the story was that historical records indicated that there was a certain Lvo that died in a duel and was responsible for the stables but the problem was that the stables all the books said they were on the right side. He said they were on the left side. So when they investigated further they found an old manuscript in a museum in Paris and initially they were on the left side. So you tell me how something like this can be done. Another example is a lady called J Jane Evans that was interviewed by the BBC by a famous uh hypnotherapist and basically she said that in her past one of her past lives she was called Rebecca. She was a Jewish woman living in York, York in England at the end of the 20 12th century. And she was married to a rich guy called Joseph, a money lender, Jewish money lender. Right? We find this in in in history. And she describes the persecutions by the Christians and that the Jews were forced to wear a badge and and during the York massacre, she took refuge with her husband and children in a crypt in a church. script means a kind of I think in an under uh basement something and but she was found and they killed her. That was the story. They called a professor that is an expert of Jewish history of York and he said that all the details were amazingly correct except for two. Number one, the church in Rome decreed that badges should be worn only in the 13th century. And she said in the 12th century she was she was forced to wear a badge which was before the time of the of the gazilla and uh the church that she mentioned was one of them that was known St. Mary's Castle Gate but this church doesn't have any crypt like any church in the region they don't have crypts. So there were two things that were not right. They made further studies and they found out that England started practicing the badge in the 12th century before the church imposed it. So, and the second thing was many months later they were doing some renovation in the church and they found the crypt under the pavement and that was an exception compared to all the churches that were in the region. So, you tell me how is it possible that things like this could be this is scientific data um like this clinical death. The second example, clinical death is defined as the sessation of breathing, breathing and heartbeat and absence of consciousness. And it's a phenomena that tens of thousands of people have experienced. And I I guess that there may be even people in this room do have experienced that. Um there there were people who made thousands and thousands of interviews and wrote different books. Uh the more most famous is Raymon Moody, Life After Life. uh this was is a Eban Alexander was a neurosurgeon that he himself had a nannerism and he from atheist became a believer uh that's what usually but often often happens things like this and the common aspects to most crinkled death experiences are the following they feel floating outside the body and seeing what's happening to one's own body they move through a tunnel they see a big bright light they f they have a feeling of serenity that is difficult to describe. They ex they have a life assessment video of the whole life going out fast or they have a panoramic memory and they meet usually diseased family members and sometimes they're even judged by having a tri c trial sometimes with terrible suffering um and then they receive the order to come back to this life and they and they return. So in fact two examples I I heard once of a story of a lady who had this not a Jewish lady not religious and then she started doing chuva and one day she was invited at someone for for Shabbat and she comes in and she faints they says what's going on who is this guy on the on on on the on the painting who is on the painting this is the benishai he says he's the one who judged me and told me to come back things of this kind and I heard same story someone said uh different case and or the if you want one that is an amazing thing but it takes two hours to listen is Ravalon Alona is a Rav invat and when you see his picture before well he had half of his body with tattoos earrings etc. You don't want to meet a guy like this in the street at night. Uh and and uh he said that he was with his girlfriend in a taxi and after some I don't know alcohol or drugs or whatever he had done. And then basically he saw himself. He discovered secrets of the he said he went up and the judges said you have three things to do. You have to come back and those are the three conditions. He said it was an excruciating experience and then he came back and uh once I was in fat I saw him walking white like the cabalists just white on anyway. So this is uh this is one examples. So the scientific element here is that many descriptions report data that could not have been known by the patient and given his location and status. Often they describe things that happened in the other room. They said you know I saw my mother crying in the other room so I had to come back or things of this kind. So let's have a look at one example uh pomeray notes. This is a scientifically documented things and I'll tell you why you'll understand why most scientifically documented example of clinical death. So this lady in her mid-30s Lauren who had a huge anorism in her brain considered inoperable. So anorism means you have one of those 100,000 kilometers of vein arteries and capillaries of our own human body which is two and a half times circumference of the earth that had a blockage of something like a few millimeters. Okay. So this is to tell you when we shall yar thank you hashem that what's open should be open is open. What should be closed is closed cuz this should have been open and was not open and and and look at what happened to the p the poor lady. This is uh but there was one surgeon neurosurgeon Dr. Robert Spetzler an expert on this and he said he proposed her an radical operation. What's the operation? Cool the body to 10° for 30 minutes to completely empty the artery of blood, disassemble it and rebuild it. So basically empty completely the brain of blood at cool temperature and then do things and then reheat it and hope she comes back to life. So after that restart the heart, warm the body and hope she comes back to life. Basically a program death, right? That's that's what they had. Death for 30 minutes hoping that it will work. But that was the only choice given what she had. There was no way they could operate without doing this thing. >> Sorry. >> Finished. She was she was about to finish. Okay. And basically >> before they change this was the proposal she was there sick. They said lady my friend you have one week to leave. You choose this or we prepared a grave. That's >> okay. So she decided to do it right. Okay. So basically they killed her. She had no brain function. They proved her body temperature was low enough that she could survive without any brain function. And they put also on the ears some things that made noise that she couldn't hear what was going on in the operating room. And the surgery was successful. That was in 1991. And she died a few years ago of of of heart failure. She reported that she felt a pop and was outside her body floating from the ceiling of the operating room seeing the oper entire operation and all that the surgeons were doing and listening to all conversations. She described in great detail. She said the colors were beautiful and so on. She also met she saw the tunnel. She went into the tunnel and on the other side there was this incredibly beautiful world. She met her grandmother and her uncle who had been dead for several years. Conversed with them. They were happy to see her but they told her it's not your time. You have to go back home and she didn't want to leave but she had to return. And he said it she said it was like jumping in a in a in a in a frozen uh swimming pool because in fact her body was at 10° right? So and she survived and she wrote a book about it. She lived to be 60 dying only a few years ago. Uh so bottom line this is and this is extremely and she after the operation she described in detail what the surgeons were doing what the name of the instruments were what happens and what this one did this and this one did that and this one this is and remember she had things on the ear she could not hear what was going on and at the same time of course the the brain was emptied. So this is I'm one of the most amazing there's a scientific insight is a description of what happened with brain drained from blood meaning no brain activity and so and she was in there in fact it makes me think something beautiful I read recently there is a book of Ra Kaplan called if I were god and it's an amazing little book and in there he said something who are we say who are you we point this out are you are you the body are you the heart well we can put an artificial heart are you the brain so he said imagine that we take another body and we take your brain and put it on the other body. So who's who, right? Are you the brain? And he said, "Let's do a third experiment. Let's take you and another dead body and let's transfer all the information, perceptions, emotions, feelings from your brain to that other dead body. Who is that one?" So in fact, basically we are an isama. We're not the body. We're nisha. Right? We said that last time. We are a spiritual being living a physical existence. So anyway, let's see a second example. This guy you may know, Yosi Sarid. Yossi Sarid was a member of the Nesset from 73 to 2006. He was the chief of merits. Merits is the extreme left from 93 to 2006. Known for his virulent and staunched atheism. So I want you. So basically an initial interview on December 29, 2013, which was less than two years before his death, he surprised many Israelis when he told an army reviewer, a radio an army radio interviewer that he had once suffered death and has seen his soul ascend to heaven. So I hope the this will work cuz this is where I want to the is it correct connected? I will pass the original in Hebrew and and then and you and I will scroll the text in here and when it's finished the whole text it's I I condensated in 3 minutes after that we're going to talk in English is good >> maximum My name is Matthew. My name Lake home. [Music] Okay. forchech. Foreign speech. Foreign speech. Foreign speech. Foreigne speech. foreign. Okay. So, so bottom line he is he he himself he says detached. I saw myself. It was amazing to be out of the body. And they said hold on a second but you believe the body and the sham is the same thing. One dies the other one dies. He says this is yeah that's my ideology. By the way this one happens to me. don't think there is anything to do with anything like this. Don't make this mistake. It's an illusion, right? Like same as the previous guys. And uh in fact I asked I asked one rabbi about this and he said uh he said he referred me to Ruv that says the at the doors of ginam they feel the heat they don't do chuva. So it's amazing this guy lived an experience that should have and by the way sid means survivor I understand in Hebrew right? So he's a survivor and it's a >> I don't know. Okay. So anyway, so this is an amazing example by the way when when you have someone like this that says this. Do you have an experience of a soul detaching from the body declared by an ultraatalist that's fine it will stop. So this is the best proof when you have so you don't have a rabbi saying this. You have someone who is exactly on the other spectrum that says that says this. Okay. So bottom line, this was what I want to share. I made a couple of uh of advertisement. I would appreciate if you can fill the sheets in there and tell me if you are interested in receiving emails when we have other events like this. Please put your name and your email. Uh if you speak French, there are many videos on different topics are very interesting especially for they use it in u in French school in some French Jewish French schools to teach some some science. uh and I did many of these conferences before but of course if you know places that would benefit from this I would be interested in presenting I'm not doing it for money I also publish a few things mostly in French but and the and the important people like my videos so just okay so let's go back let give me just give me just three minutes >> you can't just say and give us a tug. What is that? >> I was a jerk. I was a joke. >> Okay, let me just give me just 2 minutes. Give me just 2 minutes. We're done. I want you to receive to to read this sentence again. Nature, the mostest veil of protection that God spreads over man so as not to force him to believe in God. After all, we have seen and what we have seen. We have seen the scenic route. We have seen the number of stars. We have seen the lunar cycle and the gamarra beats the naza on both counts. And then we have the highway. We saw the median desert beetle with basically no water. He feed he drinks. We have the tamar walabi with the two different types of milk on the two different breasts. We have the 100% efficient light of the fireflight. We saw the amazing 10 to the power of 20 processes that go on in our in our body every second more than the number of grains of sands in earth. We saw the complexity of the eye and how the evolutionist tried to make some something out of it. We saw the resurrection of the the butterfly the butterfly from caterpillar to butterfly with keeping the consciousness of when he was a caterpillar. We saw examples of uh regression undernosis with Glenn Ford and others. And we saw testimonials of clinical death from Yosed and and others. So I think this is enough for us to say well I think I should get closer to a baru and in fact the key message that we see when when when we see planning structured complexity perfect functionality synchrony between complex systems beauty in all aspects of creation we understand that we can only say and thank hashem for this beautiful world and I understand for women will be same presentation next but at 9:00 M here and uh now like Vikro used to say questions on any subject but I put a with no guarantee that I can answer and of and there is an email that you can email me if you have any question want something and there is a little small WhatsApp group that I put some things that are interesting in there. If you're interesting send me a message to this one. Okay. I have a simple question which is not understood properly but what is the difference between a star and a planet and I'd also like to ask that how do we explain the fact that in our we refer to only seven planets on existence could you please answer those questions no I cannot answer that question I don't know I don't know the well we say planets we have the planets we have our planets that revolve around the the sun we call them planets Planets um the rest we call stars. There is a certain definition of planets that it has to what >> planet means wanderer that wanders >> which wanders >> wonders that moves places that's why in the end >> but the point is they they revolve there's for example there was a story of Pluto Pluto was a certain point a planet then it's not a planet anymore because it's there is a criteria that he doesn't satisfy for the planet but I don't remember exactly what criteria it is. home. >> Yeah. >> Other questions? >> Yes. Definitely. >> Um this idea of uh you showed >> Yes. >> to people from all those years ago. Why is the no more recent? I think this is like people >> you talk about and company this guy >> this hypnos. No, there there are plenty, but I tried to choose two examples that I thought were very uh if you go and you can look in the literature on the psychology papers, you can find plenty of examples of this or on the the books that have been written on on clinical death, you have probably more recent examples. But the one of of of Pam Reynolds is amazing because it's absolutely documented from beginning to end with precision because that was a one-of-a-kind kind of surgery at the time. So that's there's no Baba Meister that someone invented the story. It was recorded from beginning to end with extreme precision. >> You're familiar with uh sorry I don't have a regular recent book. I've been here before. No. Uh it's a documentation of dozens dozens of cave was put out like uh last 5 years. >> Okay. Uh you can easily order it at uh Jamaica or uh or or take that story down. Um that uh it's um it's dozens dozens of cases of people who uh through phobias uh flashbacks went through the Holocaust. includes Goyam who found out had all these dreams and then later on found out that wait a minute they have been Jews who holocaust. It's really it's really incredible. >> Sorry you have heard it really. Okay great. Yes. >> Have the answer. What was the question? >> Speak louder please. I focus on discussion because I've heard many of his stories about you know life after death and even another I've seen a lot of things and he compares his experience to to that of many other people. >> Yes. >> The thing that I have question is when all these >> going to shine his own experience and everything >> you know you'd expect them to understand that wait there is one truth. Um >> that's a great question. I have I understand yes >> you have an answer for that >> I just want to add to it that there are people that come back and say this Jesus or whatever >> that's right I I have a problem with this one too that's that's that's one thing is that you're right you're right in those books they they say those things yes on this one I >> Yes the Christian some Christians say this they say that they so this is the part that is uh The Yahoo pastor has a book called soul searching where he goes through again Moody and Steven cases where >> no they say they say this they're correct includes a Christian kid who was dead when he was a baby and when they when his when he was toler Right. They took him to a Christmas. He came back. He said, "Listen, that guy isn't God." >> Seriously, that guy is not God. I'm sorry. I was up here. You can't you can't say that this guy is because technically described like how he's shown by the way, but no Jew at that time had like a year or something like that. Nobody was >> I don't know. I don't know. So that's >> I don't know. >> Yes. After after we close the camera, I will tell you a joke. But have you written any books? >> Right. >> Have you written any books? >> No, I wrote articles. But uh I'm thinking about it. But >> the first book because I was thinking exactly your whole presentation tonight. I was learning about two weeks ago. Okay. And I need an updated version of every single thing that you presented tonight as an updated version as a modern day version to to to give cuz the virtually any example of what you're saying. There needs to be more today for generations. See, if someone wants to, you know, I need some help for doing a lot of things in English and and in Hebrew, even if it's another thing. >> Okay. Well, let's go. Let's go. First the the the questions. Other questions? Yes. familiar with there's a misur I've heard uh I don't know how widespread it is that when they die that their souls actually go through just as Jews go through the mar that the go through the great pyramid and but but the the main thing is that there's a hephresh there's a division between where the Jews go and where the go we're in it we're on the whole and so this does does there seems to be an inconsistency where we see uh uh Jews coming back as and so on. Uh un unless maybe it's a punishment, it's an honest because there are the shamas everywhere and Jews come back as stones and uh animals. So >> that's the only thing I can think of. Any ideas? >> I don't have ideas. No, they you're asking a religious question. So I I'm staying on the science. Go question. Did >> you say about fossils? >> Yes, >> fossils. You didn't mention that what that are like simpler and get more complex complex. >> That's no first of all there is Camber explosion that shows the simplest and complex at the same level. That's one thing and the second thing is when you if you look at really a fossils you have to make first of all when you look in which condition is the fossil and what part of the fossil you have there are things for example I understand from Lucy we got only what did we have tiny parts here and there and make a whole construction. I'll tell you one thing. I saw a book of of my wife, French book of science. It showed what Lucy was represented something like 15 years ago and what it is now. 15 years ago it was more more monkey like and what it is today is more humanlike. The story is that when you have even if you had the whole skeleton the muscle the way that you put the muscles in there you can change completely the physi to look more monkey like or more humanlike. So there is a lot of monkey business let's say going on on on the representation of what the fossils are. Second what they don't tell you is how much how many pieces you found. Sometimes they found the tooth and they make a whole story of what the animal was and and this is sheer gamur. This is obvious and sometimes I saw videos they say we have three hypothesis one of them is it's created and then they go on the third hypothesis and how about the other two. So they never tell you the hypothesis they make. So when you look at the scientific paper on paleontology or things like this, you need to look very very very very careful about the things. And of course, you know, I if if I told you that I did I found lower down a Chevrolet of 68 and then upper up Chevrolet of 74 and then upper up Chevrolet of of 1980 doesn't mean there was evolution. It was that there were three different creations. So the fact is that when you find fossils there's not an inference who emit that there was an evolution. Maybe there was zero evolution. There were different creations at different times. >> Dinosaurs I I don't know dinosaurs but I don't have a problem with dinosaurs doesn't have a problem with dinosaurs. So that's the only thing is if the dinosaur you became a human that's an issue but that's not that's not the case. Right. >> How was that? uh carbon dating. >> Oh, that's a completely different story. So, first of all, carbon dating makes a lot of assumptions on on things. It makes assumptions that the the rate was constant and it makes some for example that there was a certain level to start with. If you change the assumption, the initially initial assumption then the whole thing changes. And second, you can cheat carbon dating with some processes. You know, I I read this story, I couldn't find the the again, but I saw other examples on the same line. Take a chicken from the supermarket, right, and carbonize it in atmosphere or ethylene and other things at certain temperature and then bring it to the science and telling how old is it. They did this. Italian kids did this. They took a certain chicken. They did some thermal processes in the presence certain gases containing carbon. And they brought it to the to the scientist and they said, "Tell me what is this?" Oh yeah, it's a doro 400,000 million years ago. They say, "Sorry, we bought it at the supermarket two weeks ago." Well, so just uh the the dating is completely so for example we say a number quantity of salt on the ocean and the because we assume there was no salt and because of erosion of the rocks you get the salt. Hold on a second. Maybe Hashem created with the salt in there. No, it's not an assumption. So that's uh >> compared to the Darwin stuff is made more assumptions less about the same. >> Darwin is all assumptions. is all extrapolations and assumptions all over the place. That's where you need to be careful cuz the the the micro evolution he observed is correct. It was observed is correct. The extrapolation he made are the ones where that he said it's obvious that you can extrapolate. It's not obvious at all. It's not obvious at all that you can extrapolate simple and complex simultaneously >> and they are cumban explosion found complex and simple at the same level of fossils. Yes. What about the argument that macro evolution >> that >> macro evolution? Yes. Micro evolution compiled into one thing so much. >> No, because there are so many changes. So, first of all, if you look at the epigenetics, you understand why some things can change in in in a certain individual or a certain species over time. But when you when you take a change from a fish to a lizard transformation from a a flap uh how do you um >> from to to a a leg or you you change from a leg to a wing they said this it's impossible it's new material completely and and you when you think about the intermediate hypothesis doesn't make any sense so we he says in fact I said last time there's a stan in in in in the evolution meaning that survival of the fittest. The question is how the fittest came back. So survival of the fittest versus very slow evolution. So imagine a fish that has one foot. It's it's not the it's not the fittest. You need to wait for the four feet and for the whole thing to be a fittest. Either you say it changed completely from fish to lizard in one day which has other problems or you can the hypothesis of Darwin nobody nobody holds anymore because it doesn't make any sense. I'll tell you even more. One question we we discussed together is let's even assume it's possible that there was one fish that became a lizard. Okay. Hold from my book I know today there are people who are making new books but my book says that you need a male and a female to have children right. So the first one that transformed let's say it's a male. So what you have you need a second miracle of a female at the same time and they're at the same place that they can make to mate together to do. Come on. The whole thing is so nonsensical and the probabilities when you go into probabilities you see that it's so ridiculous. So the the honestly I think some scientists should be ashamed to say yeah there's a chance one in 10 to the^ 48. Second this is like I buy one ticket of the lottery in every country for 10 years in a win all the lotteryies. Right? If I said to you this you would say impossible. But this one they publish. Why? I don't know. >> Does anyone try to answer that after? >> No. The answer the why to answer the the the reason why they do it. I don't know if it's your question. The reason why they do it speaks clearly is because you know it's much easier to leave without having to report to a god and do what I want. So if I can get God out of the picture so to speak and I can be you know it's just evolution things happen abioenesis and then nothing there was no god into the whole story then I can do every every perversion that I want and I don't have to give accounts to anybody and I'm a free man right he said that's me that's me as you heard what he said before that's me it's me that's me that's me didn't didn't or uh admit that the reason that they ran after all was just because they wanted to have a freer lifestyle emitted in the maybe one of >> there are some I know there is one one who who switched completely one famous evolutionist that switched completely the other side and of course that you don't hear much about it I don't remember what his name is I I have to recharge Fender's uh the evolution revolution from 2014 he brings all I show he brings all the uh no he brings all the uh the evolution Okay. >> Is is evolution necessarily? We know there's a there's >> uh all built off I I am a scientist on the rav. So you asked this question to your local Orthodox rabbi for this. I I I think that you know uh there is so much compelling evidence out there. I showed you something like six or seven examples in here. If you wanted to stay here until next week, we can dig other hundreds of examples. Wherever you look, you seem it's unbelievable. And when you think about cycles, things that work together. I I I heard on a on a on a tape of arav of of the Mirisha that he said uh he he in a whitesman uh um magazine of the whitesman institute they talked about a certain animal uh no a certain uh tree that had certain fruits that to pollinate needed a certain animal to take the pollen from another type of flowers and synchronize one of the other. So you have to synchronize the animal with the plant for this to work and so on. And one of the scientists heard this and he started crying. He says, "You see the power of evolution." So you know uh you tell me I want I wanted to ask another question as well. >> Something that spoken about Greg Gills is global warming business. >> Yes. >> As a scientist, what's your opinion is that science. >> Okay. The story is you know we we are surrounded by fake news and we don't know how fake or not fake are. They say that some levels of water are rising. There are some coastal lines that are getting eroded and and to tell you the truth we have done things to the environment that are not so nice. I mean we have polluted the environment like crazy that when you think about what happened in the last I would not even say century in the last 50 years it's it's completely different than anything that we have done before. Think about this one thing that is fascinating. When I was a kid, we we said that there were almost 4 billion people on earth. Today we're are eight. I mean, and and and it's only I I'm not I'm not 200 years old, right? Uh so that's this is the world is changing really fast and today, you know, who can live without five cards, right? And uh and the at the end has to have to go on the on the environment and things like this. So that's um we we are consuming a lot or producing a lot. So is it possible that we have done some damage to the environment? I think it's possible. I don't know exactly to which extent I have a colleague of mine who who uh also like on my research looking money for producing alternative energies and stuff like that. And he has this chart where he shows the world the temperatures moving from 1700 and green blue da when it gets to today is red flashy red meaning so hot and so on. So just make the case dramatic. Um I think the mabush is much more dramatic than the global warming >> in my opinion. But that's another story about the the XL ex and the like what they have damage >> but they do a lot of damage but you know the question is who has made a big world so that's only localized things. I don't I'm I was not on that project. I don't know other questions.