'Kaf Hakela' The Most Unsettling Afterlife State

All right, Sader. Okay, Mikita, last time we spoke about >> Yeah, I'm just worried about the size. I'll see. >> I'll try. >> Do it a nice way. Yeah. Last time we were speaking about the idea of ganam and we mentioned that the gof doesn't receive any pain because we all know that it's in the it's in the grave. So the raan speaks in length about the place of the pain is only in the nan the nephesh the place which is spiritual. The place of spiritual we mentioned the idea of the that's where we ended off last time the is the image of a person the reflection of a person that he has up in shamim that he has up in shamim. We all have a mirror image of ourel. It's actually within our body and it's upstairs. And the way we have a how do you have an affiliation, a connection between your body and your nama is with this idea that's called the an image which is an image. It's very similar >> like a voodoo doll right like a voodoo doll. If you hit the you get the person very similar probably I wouldn't be surprised it's connected. I wouldn't be surprised he's saying a voodoo doll should be the same idea. The best way to explain it is similar to a neck. The neck is what not what gives you life. It's through your head that's connected to your body that gives you a knife. But I don't recommend being cut in the neck because if you do, we all know it's all over. Why? The neck is not the point of sustenance. But it's the connector between the head and the body. And only through there are you able to to survive. So the telm is the same type of thing. Your whole ru the whole life that you get into your body comes from the nama from up above. And that comes only through the telm. The telm is the conductor. That's the word the conductor that connects between the two. And we mentioned this we find in many places I mentioned that there's been reported he brings reported stories of people right before they were about to die that they actually saw like a little image come out of the person's body or sometimes you see the person becomes flush. So you say because he's sick I understand but it could be that he loses his he loses that aura. He loses that light that we have and it leaves the body. There's been stories that they said the family was sitting out there and they saw that Salm walking out the door and bye-bye and they just disappeared and then soon afterwards the person was the Salum is the point that keeps the connection between the naman like we mentioned in hundreds of places the when we talk about the spirits that walk around in this world what are known as ghosts these days but the what we call which again I plan on speaking about in the future that is has to do with this uh with this okay we talked about the the angels that the Ramban brings is in par the angels is also comes from that or raenesh when he came down to do kdesh he came down with his etc etc all all of us were in arsena that was with our telm the telm of every single person was imprinted from the time of marishan inside of his body he was able to know every single thing as the midra says and that all comes from this telm and that is what receives the pain in gum it's not your physical body cuz it's down on the ground and it's not your nama because it's spiritual it's something in the middle of this telm which has is like quasi a little bit here and there it's a little bit here and it's a little bit there and that's why the sh writes the raban writes in one place that that's why this is considered much more painful than an experience over here cuz over here if you he says very similar to a guy who works hard labor a guy who works hard labor his skin is very callous very thick gas right so he doesn't get hurt so much when he gets burnt or when he has to do things or when you when you pound him right he doesn't get so effective by because he has a very skin rough type of skin rough texture. He's made of a rough texture as opposed to another person who's made from a much more ad much more subtle and much more ad gentle refined yeah sensitive a sensitive type of skin or sensitive type of texture. So such a person will get hurt much more easily when every time right you always know your little girls every little thing that you do you barely touch them screaming and crying you don't even know what happened right because it comes from a certain type of gentleness it comes from an alkite right from a uh from from a certain place of of that's that's idea so he says also here when we are in our physical bodies it hurts I don't recommend hurting you it hurts but it's still rough it's still you're dealing with physicality when you're dealing with a gentle something very sensitive and a sh when you're dealing with an effesh or the sal that we were speaking about before which is obviously much more much more so then over there the pain is much more excruciating it's much more excruciating pain just like shalom person should ever have it but an internal pain is much more painful than an external pain when a person feels pain from within it hurts much more than when it's without person feels it uh like unbelievable thing so much never apply I remember one time I got actually burnt I I actually got burnt on the back of my leg and it peeled. It was a second or even third degree burn. It was very serious burn back of my leg from a from an urn that spilled in a breit and I was standing in the wrong place the time but I strained my only got to the bottom of my leg. It could have been much worse. But I got there and burned through my skin. So when they were putting the cream on never felt pain like that in my life. I know I can say from the day I'm born until now I've never felt pain like that in my life. It's a it's a pain that's so excruciating because it's internal. It's so sensitive. It's a place that's sensitive. I remember I had to like whatever that's it that it was very not easy. Okay, but that's where it comes from. So when that happens, at least be thinking, wow, geanum it's not pretty, right? When that happens, you can start thinking, wow, gem must be a little bit worse than this one. Okay, so that's this idea that we were speaking about here. So from here, we're moving on to the next stage where we will start getting a little bit descriptive of what the of is, what's behind gamm. But we will start with the din that a person passes. In other words, let's just say in a kiter in a short term here, what happens? The Arizel brings four types of people that what happens to them. Okay, there really are five, but he seems to skip out the fifth. The fifth if I start from the from the fifth would be a person who that's stay forever that they never are able to go up to those are very bad. The reason doesn't bring it and my guess the reason why he doesn't bring it is cuz the kabal if you look in the leash and other farm they seem to say that even a person who's all these types of things he still seems to eventually eventually eventually get some type of he seems to get something according to of course the says everybody is that's what everybody knows with the exception of anor people who don't believe in the someone who doesn't believe 13 principles of faith someone who's a heretic someone who denies the rabbis kazal he's not going anywhere he's just suffering forever okay that's what we spoke about earlier okay that's how we understand alip so the result doesn't bring that fifth category what are the four categories he brings so I'm I'm saying with the exception of fifth category of someone who is forever the the fourth the one category he brings is a gamur a person who's a super tadik now this is a very exceptional type of sadic he doesn't even go into ganam he just skips it all and goes straight into ganed there weren't So many people that were zed to reach such a da even the biggest seem to do this you know I'm not going to tell you who and exactly which but raenu you know what I'm saying big names that that were able to do such a thing so let's move on to the next da and his second da that he talks about is someone who had sadikim very big sadikim that they go to gehennam they go to gehanam but even though they go in they stop the fires for them they don't actually get burnt even the gumar brings I I'll speak about it later but the garra even brings in if I'm not mistaken. Um he it brings about the fact that they can go in but that's what it says. They talk about there used to be some type of fireproof texture that you get from a certain salamander thing. You're allowed to put it on and you don't get burned by fire. That's the talks about person can be protected by fire if he puts on this salamander on top of himself and he comes from a certain type of fish that's able to protect it. Yes, I don't know which fish it is. I don't know if we do have you can look it up in one of these books but >> like a fireman suit >> salamander I don't know if it's salamander fish that we know suit >> like a fireman suit it's the same works the same way right some creature that comes after right it's amphibian but I don't think we have it right we don't have the thing right we have a salamander but not that I don't think it's the same salamander no it's not the same salamander the I'm just saying the word of the gar calls it salamander so I don't know exactly what it is anyways these are the people that go through but they don't uh they don't actually physically get uh affected. He brings it in in which I'm going to quote later. He says that there are though everyone eventually goes to gam just some people don't get kesh I remember people telling me I was I remember when I was younger they said the bach the bach was one of the pirish on the tour you know the bach on the gar you know Adam from the 1500s he was the father-in-law of the taz so someone one time said that the bach they know he went through ganam but they stopped all the fires of gem and he went straight to ganed after that or something like that so I said wow you know I was younger also I said oh I was going to tell someone else the guy said no You shouldn't say that about this guy didn't know anything because that's everyone goes there. If you're then everyone goes there and it's we should get such a that they should turn the fires off but everyone somehow goes through Gam with the fires off. You know what I'm saying? It's not >> going avoiding it going there as they're going with it cuz there is some type of purification process that needs to be done. I don't know if it hurts. Apparently it it's some type of pain but it's a very minimal pain. Let's say the extent I don't know I'll tell you it's when it's over. Okay. Just keep in touch [laughter] for the most >> for the most part. >> Even the patriarchs >> the patriarchs. No, I'm sure the patriarchs they were they were the first category. They were the ones that went straight to that have to be very big to have that level. Third category of a person which simply speaking is most of us are what we call bayon we're middle class people that was always a bayon growing up you know be students bayon right b for be and they're bon students that's what it is and he basically these are the guys who somehow go to ganam they need to have go to ganam they go through the purgatory process and then eventually you get a nice big fat chunky gun okay but again the bigger you're going to get there, the more you're going to be taken to task in gam. That's the truth. The more it's going to be, but it's going to be worth it. That's the bring that they say it's worth it for the amount of gan you're going to get for the amount of that you're going to you're going to have to go through. But it's the cleansing process, right? This is the cleansing process as opposed to you remember what I spoke about two weeks ago about there's a cleansing process which is relevant more for usem and there is the process a person who doesn't get cleansed. It's just it's just in order to give him pain and he continues getting tortured because he doesn't deserve to be purified. The last category which he brings and this is what I want to speak a little bit longer is someone who has to stop hopefully none of us but especially people come to the sh I'm sure you're going to be okay it's a special you get that he says that stop in before they go to ganam you have to be we said you have to be you have to have merits you have to have merits to go to ganam to go to uh to go to purgatory how do you get there some people have to stop beforehand in one of two places Okay, one we'll speak about today and another one we'll speak about in a little while cuz it's a longer story. One way is gilgulim. A person has a certain gilgul. He comes back to the world as a gilgul coming back down. That could be one of two ways. Or you possess someone else's body which we all know. You go into another in Shabbat. He becomes a gilgul. He goes reincarnation as it's called in English. He goes into someone else's body and that's how you finish your final tikun. I'll tell you a story in a minute soon about something like that. That's first of all. Well, the second way which is and like I said that's already a little bit longer cuz Gilim is all you know they take a few sharim so it's not for now but the second way to do it is a person is goes to what is known as kafela kafella which is a little bit known as a slingshot a slingshot is kafella he goes around and around now literally speaking kafela is referring to a person getting flung from one end of the world to the other okay he goes one back to the other which obviously sounds a little bit unusual and I'm going to explain to you what it means right now. But that's the idea of cafela meaning kafala comes before gean not not like people know comes before for someone who has a bigger rush meaning he wasn't yet to get to ganam okay so as we mentioned there's a few cleansing processes which occurs there's what we call which we spoke about the pounding in the grave and then some people hopefully we should not get such a thing as kafella which is also as I'll read now not such a pleasant experience and as the going right is even worse than ganum. Okay. And then eventually because he gets cleansed by the kafakella process if he was holding on such a level if he wasn't a Russia gamur. So then he gets to go maztov to geanum. Okay. Then he gets gets the into ganum and then of course we know he gets to the highest levels of gan which is in a of course separate. Okay that's basically um what he writes. Now, as I told you, the understanding from what I've seen from most people is that hopefully we're like Bayon. We shouldn't get g. But I have to point out the pelleoets was a tough he was a tough guy for anybody who knows he's also the author of the muser if you wanted to know that was a safer that we keep quoting that nobody likes. Okay. But basically he writes over there this when he speaks about this level of the he says he says we so then he writes uh under the heading of he says from who's who's the one who's able to be cleansed enough to go straight to that's what he says who's the who's the one who can say I'm clean enough to go straight to the end and without getting any interruption in the middle which isn't such an enjoyable statement to say but that's what he says basically and that's what they say when say oh so the question is what happens to the statement we all know is we all know that there's idea for 12 months that he's in ganam he's there for 12 months so the answer is 12 months when you start the ticker right when you start the clock right when you when the person goes in geham so then he's there for 12 months but until then you have all the preparation ations, right? Like you only start the book once you pass the hugdama, the introduction and the preface and the you know the second introduction and all that. That's what's happening with kafel. It's a little bit just to get into and then you actually start the um the thing the mishim brings about understanding. He says just like a doctor when he cleanses a wound. He says a doctor when he cleanses a wound, he first has to take out all the pus, cut off all the dry skin or all the live skin in the beginning before he can actually start treating the wound, right? So he says cafela is kind of like that. It's cutting off all the dry skin, cutting off the live skin or whatever and take pulling out the pus and then he could start patching it up and putting on the cream in order to do that. That's when ganam kicks in. So then ganam can go ahead and start putting on the cream. But you got to get rid of all the extra bad stuff that you might have. So here we have the gun in says like this. It says in the that a person is in an arrow an arrow like a bird that runs to the so what does that mean? He says what does it mean? So says the writes in a few places in by the way this is referring what is referring to he goes from place to place he's running and goes from one end of the end to one end to one end of the world to one end of the world when you look in the things it looks there's a way they say there's one it sounds like you ever see I'm going to use an American m you ever you ever In in baseball, there is idea when you throw a ball to one guy into another and then there's someone in the middle trying to it's called a pickhole. He's trying to get out cuz one person's going over there, one person. You does anyone know what I'm talking about here? I'm the wrong audience here. [laughter] You're trying. They're throwing They're throwing the ball to each other to try to tag the guy in the middle. So, it sounds very much >> hits the ball. >> Yeah. Yeah. Also, he hits you. I understand. Anyways, >> so basic so basically that's when you read it inside it a little bit sounds like that's kafake. You go from one end over here and then comes back again comes and he runs over there and he runs right back here. That's what it sounds like. He's always trying to if you see if you see Allah it doesn't sound much better. Okay. But uh it's very like he's while he's over here and he's over here. I'm going to describe to you what it means in a minute. But that's I just want to describe to you the words here that it says he gets [clears throat] thrown from one end of the world to the other. two and it says and what does he say? Now the is referred to as the depths. Okay, we in modern Hebrew would just turn into the garbage. Okay, but it's not rubbish. It's not really exactly that. It means means into the in the pit in the pit, right? In the pit of something. So here he says don't think he says when say don't think that ganim will be a place to run away he says what does that mean is not a place to run away place you want to run away from sounds like you're running to ganim so he says because in the beginning a person gets aim gets very very heavy which are extremely painful and he's in kafella he says and then while he's in cafella and he's stuck he sees sees gem on the side. He sees, "Oh, here's Gdam." And he tries to run for it. He tries to go and tries to make it into Gdam someplace safe in order to get out of this mess. He prefers going to Gdam because that's just just to show that's what he says. The person runs away to gam because he says that is much better even though it's not good as we'll see later. It's not exactly enjoyable place to be, but it's much better than Kafka. Kafka is much more of a painful experience. He says and he says that's what it means just like a a um a a bird runs into a little crevice in order to run away from you know he's being chased by the eagle. He's being chased by the eagle and he runs into some little crevice in the wall to try to get away from it. So too we're going to be trying to do the same. We're going to try to get into the in order to to um to try to get away from it. Okay, just as an explanation to show how uh how serious this actually could be. Okay, so therefore um that's uh that's this about about what it is. Okay, about I want to describe what this means from going. Yeah. >> Is this experience? >> It's a good question. If it was the same thing, I would guess that's what it sounds like. I'm not going to sign on that. That's the truth. Okay. But that's uh I just want to bring out this goin. Now the zor and the shunim right like this. Um oh so what happens and they continue they leave off from where the go the go says that they try to run into geanum. So what happens? How does he get out? So what happens? So this is what's brought down in the zor I mean the the go was coming based on the zor. Yeaham when they see ganim and they run to ganim to try to get out of it. Immediately all the rashim who are inside ganam shove him back out. They say, "Hey man, there's no room for you in here. Get out." They don't want him in there. They actually push him out. You're not to be in. You weren't to be able to get into. And then it says three come very big scary or big. It says and then they come and say all is and they start hitting him and they say you weren't still to come into and they give him many types of and then they throw him back into until he finished cleansing himself. So ku that this process continues he treats and get in until he gets cleansed enough until he can actually to do it according to the amount of that he did it's the only place is mentioned in in in the Torah in it brings the written by when she was speaking to there's a certain through the you prefer you're saying because at least there's a certain amount of the serum when a person goes to again it's a different type of cleansing than gam because gam is an internal type of finishing off the product to make it like the like the wound but this is more you had other parts that were problematic that you have to suffer for in order to get it >> just a punishment or is it some kind >> it's a punishment which helps you move advance though it does help you advance not for everyone let me explain to you when we talk about it's not stop flying around the universe okay every everything we speak here obviously you should know it's not like I'm hopefully going to get animal. So I want to describe it a little bit also when we talk about the that's what I meant sounds bad right what I meant to say is when we describe kafel is like this the idea is that a person and this is how the miko writes in page 296 if you want to look it up he has about five six pages there on kaflla and he says the idea is that a person was so bound to his tot to his nature to his body that he's running to get more of it and he's trying to get more of it and he gets there and you're so excited to almost be there and he comes right back again and springs you back. Kilo, what's the most painful experience? Like recently someone was just telling me they were planning a trip. He told me already from 2 months ago they were planning a trip. They were planning on going. They're planning going somewhere. And then I said, "Oh, you're going this week." He said, "No, my wife's not feeling well. He's not able to go or something like that. He wasn't able to go on this." And I said I was so about it. He was so upset about it. I was like, you know, I was but he he was so much more upset about it only because I wasn't upset about it, but he was upset about it. Why he was upset about it? Because he was you had the and you didn't get it. The anticipation is extremely painful experience if you don't get it. And especially when you're this close and you just miss it. That's exactly what kafaka is. It's like you're almost almost getting those that that goof the tas that you wanted you wanted to do and you wanted to do it and you come back and you come back and you end up losing it. That's the experience. That's what it means that you get thrown back and forth. Thrown back and forth. It's like whatever bodily functions you had the whole times with his certain tavat whatever your problems were that you deserve to get it. You get it's it's it's advanced a 100 million times and the person really wants to want and he never gets it and he never gets it. He keeps thinking he's going to get it and he doesn't end up getting it. And that's that's how he describes it. He says >> even if someone just chuva he's going to go through propaganda again. >> Okay. If a person did proper chuva, so then it will work depending on what he did chuva on and if he did it for depending on the things. Now chuva works there's four different levels. Chuva can work for assays but not for says but if you didn't have some things require so he has other things but again what deserves exactly that no one really speaks about. Okay. But it's some things that you did that you didn't wasn't enough apparently that required more than that. Yeah. >> This is the misa that's here. Is it >> with the misa meaning >> or with the mis >> Yeah. Even if it is even the misapper sometimes you still need more. It's not enough. Someone who didn't believe in the mis being or something. That's what I'm saying. I I except for that pelle was the exception. I think hopefully I you know I don't stamp on anything. Don't don't hold me on anything because you get upset and realize I was wrong. I'm going to take me and take him with you. Right. But uh the mash is that hopefully if a person's a m and he tries his best and he's really doing his best and he tried to shoot as best as he can and he does ch as best he can hopefully he'll skip the stage. I hope so. Okay. >> Well, I thought some of the action pains you get here is a cleansing process. >> That's also cleansing and and it's a very good cleansing cuz it's better to get the pain here than there because it's much more easier. It's much easier. You understand? So, whatever you pay here, you should realize you're paying for it triple. Okay? You're getting a lot more out of it. You should realize what it is. >> Maybe because it's easier here because we've got our external girth protecting. >> That's right. Exactly. >> Pain therefore it's not as effective. >> It doesn't hurt you as much. Maybe you're not getting as much kapor. >> No. So I'm saying that's the there's that. You're right. It's earning less and definitely earning less. But it's a special what do we say? We say alloy. What's a tad for alloy? Because he receives in this world most of his in order that he gets it upstairs. He gets a discount as opposed to rush is the other way around. So what's the difference? Either way, you're getting the pain. No, because it's a it's a you're getting a you're getting a big discount by receiving the pain here. That's what it is. Okay. That's that's he says you the person this whole time is doing this and coming back and he's just trying to get out of it. He says he's like in a he's like in a jail cell and he's not able to get out of it and he's just trying to run here and run here and he's not able to do it and that's where the pain is and he can never get. He just keeps trying again and keeps trying again. He wants to get out of this train. It's like a person who's addicted, right? It's a it's a muscle almost. I don't think of it as an initial, but it's a muscle. Like a person who's addicted. He I would love to stop. I can't handle this anymore. A person can't stop pushing buttons. Can that cigarette is his whip, right? It hits him on the back. Get it again. No, I'm killing myself. The guy has lung cancer. He's going to die. Said, "No, it doesn't help because it's still that's what he said. That's that's the description." Then they said, "How I've been doing it. I've been able to get out of it. I'm not able to get out of And some people get it forever. And some people are are this. And you should know that the go writes in as he get it to his to his he says who gets kafella. And this is the scariest thing. He says all the and the stupidity they speak words of the in the letter. In the letter everybody knows he g and he still says for every bad thing you said for every negative thing for all the extra words just to call the words because the hele is the it's the place of connection between the higher and the level so that's why it deserves to get he says very scary thing well this I'll give you a story you want to say something okay so basically I'll tell you one quick story that's brought in the ishud okay who's ner died uh 60 70 years ago. Not long ago, middle 50s. It wasn't uh not not such a long time ago. But the book is wild. Nothing less to say than that. Just talks talks to all these and all these tikun etc. It's incredible things that he does there. So let me tell you one quick story which is relevant for us over here. He brings a miser with a person named Natani. You know what Natanasti is? You know that is Natani, right? Oh, very good. He wrote a book a cafer called. Now the truth is we have the safer. It's still around. Now until this came out it was a book that was learned. People learn it. The he kind of slammed the book into pieces. But I'll tell you what happened. He said he he was learning. He says he himself was then it has a lot of muser in there and all these types of ideas. Okay. And says to learn it, >> not to learn it. Oh, really? So, it was before. I thought he was the one who put it. Okay. He says because of Yeah. Oh, okay. So, it was already from before. >> There's that. He was really will the one who wrote that statement, but he made it clear he was the one. >> Uh, no. I knew there was I just thought the he caused it. So, you're saying I mean it was the same time as Ben, you know, but >> I'm it could be he said after this this because this was with Benish also. So, I don't know. Um he wrote a book it's called was written about 300 years ago. It has a lot of muskaf. It's a very nice book. A lot of Torah. Okay. Personally I never read it because I know it's all I'm not touching the book. I have plenty of other things to read that I didn't bother. So he says over there fata was reading it as is you know what do you read to your kids when you go to sleep? You read right Goldilocks and three bears. What are you guys reading? Right. So he was reading kamim to his kids. That's what he was reading. Those were the days, you know, everyone's reading this garbage and he's he's reading this. He was reading and he said while, you know, he's lying down in bed reading it to his kids and this and that he was reading it to his kids, he fell asleep. He dozed off. Now that he dozed off, he started dreaming and guess who came to him in the dream? Natanasti, the author of the book himself came to himself. >> No, I'll tell you the story in a second. He didn't know that yet. He didn't know that yet. He dozed off and Natanast came to him. You should try. You'll see Dr. Sis will come to you in your dreams, right? >> [laughter] >> It works. Read it and don't come to your dreams. Right? So anyways, he was there and then as he says, "Oh, I see you're reading my safer. I appreciate it. It's a great safer." No. And then he said, "If you do one thing, then I will let you read the whole entire the whole entire book will be in your head. A one-way ticket. Boom. You'll know the whole entire safer bal by heart. If if you just have to do one thing, what >> by heart?" He said, "I'm going to give I'm giving you a special gura." So he told him, "What do I have to do?" So he said, "I'll be honest with you. I have to tell you." And this is where he comes in. He says, "I'm from aim. I'm one of the Okay, I come from the You know, you heard of him? He was a Messiah that was a faker." Um, and he he caused a lot a lot of havoc to the Jews because a lot of people followed him and a lot of people went off the Derek. He went in the wrong direction because of him. He pretended he was Mashia and he himself became a Muslim in the end. You know the story. You know more of the story, right? >> Right. So he's known he's known there's a whole book if you want to see in English called the impostor that goes through his whole life and his whole life story. It's called the impostor. Someone told me he read his excellent book. It's a very good book. Anyways, so he caused a lot of problems because after him that's that's when they started asking learning kabala because he knew he knew fantastic kabala and he was able to do tricks with his kabal. He was able to do things and people followed him and went after him because of him. That's why you know the had a lot of problems because of that and so there was a lot of just because of the anyway so he says that was a tal of until the day until the death he was he was he was behind him the whole time and he said I was always worried that and I wanted to give over the hashkaf of I wanted to give over his his uh his ideas but he said if I write a book about him everyone's going to take the book and throw in the fire right no one's going to listen to it so I had an idea good idea and I think people nowadays do it also. I'll write a lot of musk nice things. I'll bring in a lot of I'll show people that I'm a whopping I'll show people that I know what I'm talking about not right I'm not a joker and then through that I'm going to bring I'll mix inside of it I'll mix inside of it all the I'll get everybody to go on the derek not a good guy Russia pretty bad guy huh some people do this with the internet these days they throw in a lot of marmic a lot of sources because they get it off the internet or whatever and this and then they sound like they know what they're talking about but they're really Dota brains Right. Unfortunately, >> every shak has to have a little read you by the moragling by the by the by the spies also. They had to put a little bit of truth in the beginning to make. Okay. Anyway, so that's that's what he said. So he says, "If you go and you do and express my book and and go with this, I'll I'll help you. You'll know the whole entire book." Oh. And then he woke up and then feta woke up. >> A nightmare. It's pretty bad. Then he realized what what's the power of this book. And then he said he went to sleep again after a few weeks or whatever after a little while. And when he was in his dream, what happened? He saw a crow. Yeah. He saw a crow flying. He saw a crow flying and coming right and charging towards him and charging towards him. Coming like this. And he boom went into his jacket. Hiding in his jacket. That sounds scary, right? a crow came and he sees three farmers coming and trying to hack and to get the crow and trying to trying to kill the crow and then he realized who it was. He realized this is a gilgul of Natani who's going through and this is part of his gilgulim that he's going through. So before he was saying that he was within Kafka and he's within Gulim he's going back and forth he was having a whole party over there and he was going through this permanent pain like you are permanent if by him it was permanent he had no way of getting out of this he was flying back and forth and they were chasing after him so he said and this is what's funny about the book a few places he does this even did himself he did he said he he begged him not said please can you help me get out of this place I can't I'm being chased and this I can't he's going crazy I can't have him so he told that I'll do the for you and he writes all the tikun that he did and he went around seven times and he has a whole path did all started doing all the see in order that he should be to go to gan not if he goes to ganim then he has a you know a ticket to be able to get there and he pushed and it wasn't easy and he did it and he raised if anybody needs if this happens to you I have the pages if you want to have a list you can do the tikunim and he gleim flying around your house it happens no haunted houses there somewhere you know the If you say these things, it's everything. It was unbelievable. He goes through all the different things that he said. And as he brings in the story, he went to the said get out of here. He said, "No, he's on his forehead. It said he was he was fixed because of him." And he was able to go he was able to go in. Was sent to that. They shook his finger and they weren't happy. He did. He said, "I made Allah." He says in the book, I'm testify on myself that that whole year I had the worst year of my life. I lost all my money. I had tremendous. He didn't say all the I had a lot of physical and monetary because apparently it wasn't so befitting what he did. So he took the isuram on in his plate. He said I did it and I did to do it but uh he did it to save the world. As they say some people give duck and some people do these things. You know it seems to be that's what it is. But at least you see at least this idea that kafakala is a very powerful thing. It's worse than Gam, but it's also aoot to be able to go to Gam. Okay, these are the four levels. This was I told you Gilgim Kafel and this and I do want to speak about Gam if you don't mind cuz I told you I have two weeks. Do you mind if I go over time a little bit if we go like 10 minutes? Yeah, you can leave in the middle if you want. I just >> Huh? >> Was he what? >> Corrupted also. >> Who? >> He was corrupted. Yeah, he went to the death. >> He was trying to get people to be he was correct. He was def he he felt he was correct but I don't know I the only one thing I don't figure out is when he went off to Derek I don't know why everybody kept following him there seems to be still a reason why people were so he knew that he still went off and he was a Muslim and they say that Taz went to visit him the Taz went to visit him and he said when he went to talk to him there's hundreds of stories about so much time he saw that he closed a book with his foot or something like that he said I know that he's like a like they saw he was you know what I mean but he was very strong that was the problem. So, so what does cliff that >> that he's able to do against >> they was able to even come in a dream how do they >> to be able to come it happens to be on the contrary you should know the lower are able to come down the ones who are flying around in this world you're able to speak to them theim are the lower ones the people are high you can't talk to you can't anyway but you know those things you can't it was a one time thing was able to speak to because it was within the one year or whatever so he's still able to do that but the sadiki are impossible to be able to do that. But for him to be able to come in because he's on a lower level and he was begging for some uh some for him to help able to actually >> Yeah. to be able to to do that. Apparently, Hashem gave him the opportunity to to come down. >> What place was he in that he was able to still attempt to lead someone else a straight >> to lead someone else astray? Oh, that's what you mean. >> He's now in his fixing up process, >> right? No, but that's what I told you. You two shum ago I mentioned that even when they're upstairs they're still were they still tell people not to the gar says that uncle came to tus and he came to bum rash and he came to and they all said knock off the Jews get rid of them get rid of them if you want to be something good get rid of they don't change their status just like in the kafaka I said kafel they still have their t they still want they still want and he doesn't get it that's why it's so painful for those people it's not a changing process for people are proper it's not a it's not a fixing process It's a punishment. >> It's a punishing process. Yeah. A certain type of vengeful type of punishment. You understand? For someone like us. Yeah. Even if we go through it, but it's more of a cleansing process and you start becoming clearer and clear and clear until you're able to get through. You understand? You just have to know there's a big difference. >> How does it work with >> Yeah. So, it's two different things. Or it's gil or it's kafella. Sometimes it's both. Sometimes I don't know if he has a choice, but Gilgum is a whole separate story and it's going to take more than one cheer. So, I'm not going to speak about now. Okay. Some people go in kagulum instead of cafella in instead and just be taken that way. Okay. So let's move on. I'll go till a quarter tube is okay. >> When what? >> It's not good. It's a painful. Yeah. It's not good. It's not good. It's a very not they usually prefer not to. Sometimes they prefer gham to go to yoga with them. >> Okay. Well, we had to because we had to finish the Yeah. had to finish the process. Sometimes there's a little bit more and through the G and then we can finish it off instead. You know what I'm saying? Depends. >> That's what happened. Yeah, I mentioned the story last week. There's a story. The person remember that he only had one thing wrong. He had a choice or to come back or to go through three days of gham. >> So he said, "I'm afraid to come back cuz maybe I'll mess up again." He said, "So stay." But then he so it was too hard to hard the three days of gam was too hard for him. So he said go. Okay. Now let's just uh progress here a little bit. Let me just say a couple important points about Gam. I really wanted to be Magdar Ganam at least before we take a break for a little bit. There's seven names that are given to uh Ganam. Okay. Seven names that are given to it. It's known as these are all depth and the depth. It's all the words of they're all negative words. All things that have to do with negativity meaning a lack of something to the place of death underneath ground and as we'll see later it's going to sound surprising to you and I can't do it in this year because I'm going to show you a lot of proofs to this the Ramban speaks it out it seems to be it's somewhere underneath the ground here okay it's somewhere in this world it's a very heated place and I have I'm not saying theories in this it just comes out the way as we all know we've discovered that the core of the of the world is extremely like a bolden lava and it works beautiful with this whole thing. I'm just saying it works out well. Okay. Now, I'm not saying there are people swimming around in the lava there and that's organ cuz you're not going to see anything there. I realize that. I'm not So, you'll I'll explain to you separately. Okay. >> But you should they could send a camera, right? No, they can't. It'll melt. They can't send anything down there. Okay, fine. But, uh No, I mean they can they but uh but I will describe to you what it is. It is some type of physical heat which is downstairs which causes heat and that's what the Ramban brings araya from the to various springs the springs we have in many the hot springs in a number of places in the world and the garra says in one place again I want to I want to do this separate I didn't even mean to speak about it in one place that the garra says in Shabbat that that is from the of they ask if it's from the sun or it's from is it told or told the Does it come from real fire which is user to cook on that or does it come from which is a not it's a solar solar type of heat. Okay. It's what it is but he said so we see this has some realism into the real world into the physical world. It's a spiritual world saying it's physical but it plays a part in the physical world which I believe will explain but that's not our issue today. Okay. I just wanted to say these are the seven names. That's what it's brought down. Raan brings two other names which you might be more familiar with which is interestingly not brought there and it's the place of death. He brings another place called Ara. Now Arca is known for land. Why is he bring it's an eighth name. Why it's the eighth name. What's the difference between the seventh name and eth name? The eighth name is Arca's er because that's a place where you stay and you never come back. If you get to this eighth level then he's forever gone. There's seven levels in gem. Seven med there are seven it's a very famous it's a mum most of what we're speaking about is in ganum if you want to look when you finish I'll show you ganum is okay not that I finish but it's okay right you have the seven levels and then you have and then you have this place called ara which is place you don't go up meaning if you're in the seven levels then you have opportunity to come back up every level is more painful than the level above it first the highest is better then worse worse worse worse worse worse. Okay, that's how that's how it goes according to each uh each each level. Okay. Now I want to explain where this name two names is brought. It name is tip place of puy where the mafu they convince you to do things which we can understand why but and the second name that is brought is gan which we know how does everybody refer to ghan they call it gueum. Okay now I want to tell you the words of the we go back to rauday again. Okay raudaya he speaks about and this word that I'm saying he says is a mistake. It's not the way you pronounce it. How do you pronounce it? So he says like this first of all he says the word is called and he says because even it's a convincing place even for a king and over here he says what I said before melik is and even go down there only the ish is not the thing that I mentioned to you before okay even anybody can go he says where does his name come from and why is it called so the word is mentioned in many places in no it's mentioned in three or four places it's mentioned mention a lot of times the word go sometimes is two words sometimes is one and he says like this during the time of mane he tells us a cute story during the time of man we know that man he was eventually but he was a king for a long time 55 years and for most of those years for a lot of those years he was rasha bad guy okay and there was a person who had a very large large courtyard a super large courtyard very wealthy person who had a very large courtyard in I'll tell you the truth I was in if you ever go to the if you go you have to take a guided tour in the Davidid in David over there which is that's proper Davidid is hard is not you know that's all these are all nice places around the area real is Davidid where unfortunately all our cousins are living and not us okay there's one or two guys that like to live there and they're they're bound with the bodyguards and this and barbed wire fence And that's how they live. But I don't know how they buy milk, but say what? >> S. That's the name. What? Yeah, there's two or three people that live. >> Yeah. >> A few. >> Oh, it's a neighborhood. I thought it was only I see like two or three houses. [music] >> Wow. >> I didn't realize that. Whole apartment building. Okay. >> So, they want to live in your English line. So, that's what they do. Anyways, that's uh if anybody wants this expensive deer reserve if you want, but uh basically so what happens over there. Oh, so I'm saying when I was on a tour, they pointed out they showed me a place where that was that's where they say this this was. Okay, I don't know if they know all the details of the story that I'm about to say. They didn't say over the story. I know the story from just so you know the place that they say where this place is exist. So this big opener in Hebrew is called a gay. That's what it's called a guy. Okay. A gay in Hebrew or in proper lashes is known as a big opener. >> Okay. Shai, something like that, right? An an area, a place of residence, I don't know, something like that, right? A courtyard is going. Now, guess who was the owner of this house? This wealthy guy, you know what his name was? Bin Henum. His name was Bin Hin. Like Ben Hen. Ben Henom. The son of Henom. That's who he was. That's who he was. His name was Ben Henom. Um, and he owned this gay. So, do you already see the connections, guys? Yeah. Gay Ben. Okay. It was gay benom. That's what it was. That was the place that that's what it is. And that is the proper name, by the way, for gam it's gay binom. Now, he does write even if you want to put into one word, which you can do, but when you put into one word, there's in in the ni there was no v. So, he says so writes it. So, people started calling it go. It's a they call it Gan, right? >> Sounds like a nice place though. >> What [laughter] a big courtyard. >> So So you're right. I didn't finish saying what's in the courtyard. So it's called people call it Ganam Gam, but it's really gum because it's where they think cuz his name was Ben. Okay. So he says it's really and just people make a mistake. Can say in case you ever have to pronounce it like you say gum not okay it's not gum okay for those of you like like these things good to know why was it going on in this courtyard they weren't playing basketball okay what were they doing in this courtyard there was he says a big a massive guy okay a big made of bronze a bronze made of I think copper made of copper rather and he had his hands stuck out like this had his hand stuck out like this I'm sure if you've ever taken a trip into India or something. I'm sure you bumped into one of these guys though, right? He was a big guy like this. What? [laughter] >> He had his hands like this. >> But where he put it, what they put in between is inside in between the two hands underneath was a massive logba log bonfire, but humongous. They say you couldn't get even close to the fire. There's like sparks flying everywhere. Like you have to be careful. Really strong strong fire. Okay. I mean you could get close obviously look at the to say and there was a priest a com that was there they had a few karim that this was their job and a person and Jews Jews Jews would come and they would bring their babies to sacrifice it to the during the time manage yeah this is what we know as mole it's brought in the mole but in case you didn't ever know what it was and the priest comes and he takes the baby and he puts him on the hands of the thing and can move on smitherines in in seconds. He says very very quick. But what's an addition? So this is that's why that's the first reason why it's called Genum or Ghanam is known as a place of fire cuz it was named after this which is the place of fire. Over here is a physical fire. There's a spiritual fire but it's the same uh idea. Follow. That's the first thing he says. But it's also called tipate. Why is it called? Because he says when they would do this what would they have? They'd have a few people on the sides that would be pounding drums. Boom boom boom boom boom. You not came before the movies, right? Before the movies. What? >> Voodoo. Yeah. Like mama like the voodoo doll. Mom is like straight from the movies. I'm saying they these guys got everything from us. They got everything from us. >> They're all bound umbrellas. So he says the reason why maybe there other reasons, but he says the reason why they do it cuz he says if you would start hearing if the if the parents would start hearing the crying of the baby, they forget it. You know, we'll try again later. Do you mind? Can we just take it back? >> So, so, so, so the the word for a drum in Hebrew is a to a to. So, it comes from the lion of P. So that from a to that's why it's called uh tip but it's also p of convincing because they would do this pounding so they wouldn't hear the crying when the baby would be put into the thing. Can you imagine what Kenny and this was a proper like Gumar says that Manasha said you he appeared to someone in dream and said if you were in our time this you wouldn't you would run after the it was a crazy and people were doing it over and over again right I want you to realize that it's such a such a thing that people obviously had this to be able to do it but these are where the two names come from okay and that's uh that's this idea now I want to describe exactly what is about it's your call I don't mind stopping to stop I wouldn't normally I would wait till Next week is huh it will stop say I'll take it for two weeks next time I'll explain to you what day a gam was created and that will explain to you the details of what happens again and we'll go through the seven levels we'll