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Twenty Year Old Infants

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Theor had mentioned the was a very unique sh this sh had developed its horns before its hoof. So ordinarily a is born with its hooves and it doesn't develop horns until later. But the was first it says and then it says so you see the macro before the mafus what's the beer in it the beer in it is Yehuda was saying that the other was mak was born literally fully matured and being that a fully matured sh has horns this also had horns now it had hooves as well because a fully matured Word has hooves. So why was it's because it came out head first and therefore the emerged into the before the par and the this report something that said I'm called all of created full height and they were created meaning they were given the option to be born or not to be born and not does that they chose the in which they were going to be born as the says. So Levi supports what Rabuda said and that is when they were created they were created and they were created as well in the so he brings a borious theious Ra says on that and he said not but what does the word mean? It's some sort of deer and created man like a deer. What does that even mean? So the medish goes on and the medish explains that just like a deer is fully developed. So too was created fully developed and added to that. He said when they were born they were born as if they were 20 years old. This is a medish on the now at first glance this medish is to the me of which is said that were created and that's why the was so you see backer which is an interesting way of bringing out the point. But the point is is that were created already complete and added one. He said what does it mean they were complete? They were but if you take a look at the medish they all struggle. Why 20 years old? Why is that the magic number? Why were they created like they were 20? not 19, not 21 or frankly for that matter not 30 or 40 or 50. What's the hash that they were created 20 years old? If you take a look in the pirish of the marzu, it's one of the mafarim on the side of the classic bracious rabb says that is because the scientists claim going back to the ble he said but the scientists claim that when a person reaches the age of 20 he stops growing. So a person grows up until the age of 20 but once he reaches the age of 20 at that point he stops growing and the truth is it's in the beginning. So we know the says at the beginning of paris was told to take a to count every but not every it was only why when they're 20 years old saidzra says because when a person is 20 his is developed and at that point he's not going to grow anymore again the ruba usually a person stops growing when he's 20 years old And it's for that reason you START COUNTING FROM 20 BECAUSE YOU ONLY START COUNTING once the person is already that you want to know why 20. He said because this is and it's because when a person turns 20 at that point he already reached his full height. And the point that was trying to say was that and were created fully developed in their full height. It's what's to this and this is the same idea. It's and that's this point of the fact that they were created 20 because 20 is an age that you find is already he brings that the classic uh commentary on the bracious rabbi he brings another he brings this in the name of the now why did say they were 20 years old because we know that bezdon shamata doesn't punish a person until he becomes a godle. At what age do you become a godle? When you're 13 years old. But be shel doesn't punish a person until the person is 20 years old. Rashi brings us in two places. Rashi brings in the beginning of par. Rashi also brings it in. This isn't punish until the person turns 20. The says that malus on this world is 39 malus. It's but we know that the Gmorra says that when they give malus it's pul right it's 60 malus what's the he said is because malcus is always a 3x it's three times the minimum age of when you can be punished I mean that the minimum age of punishment on this world is 13 malus is 13 * 3 it's 39 the minimum age is 20 * 3 AND AS A RESULT it's 60 but either way this is a dua that sh doesn't punish a until he's 20 years old said [laughter] that we know that other the day he was born he sinned what was the sin he ate from the sadas and when other ate from the sadas punished him you think it was the punishment of all punishments and other was told that you're going to have to return to the ground you're going to die was [laughter] punished right they were both punished how could would be punished. They weren't 20 YEARS OLD. THEY WERE SO IF you're how can you be punished doesn't punish until you're 20. The is they were 20 years old and [laughter] you know they were 20 years old. That's how they WERE BORN. SO THEREFORE THEY CAN be punished. AND THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THE FACT [laughter] THAT THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THE fact that they weren't 20. A peasant doesn't punish UNTIL YOU'RE 20. THAT'S what was coming to say after it brings the is obviously a pun. Why? He said because although it's true that bezin doesn't punish a person until the person's 20. That's because we assume that a person until he's 20, his not fully developed. And they don't punish until a person's fully developed. But that was created it's that wouldn't apply. What's the kashi fet his kashi is that the fact that a person becomes bar mitzvah when he's 13 he becomes a bar when he's 13 that's right it's a mitzvah we know the rush says in the that it's from the said that's a that's until a person's 13 years old it doesn't matter how intelligent he is how smart he is he's going to be punished but as it relates to benim with regards to that's because be assumed there's a certain that a person doesn't have until he's 20. By the way, it's with the a child is not allowed to sell his father's assuming he inherited it [laughter] until he turns 20 years old because until he's 20, we assume that on some level his hasn't been fully developed. But the point is that as it relates to that's not like a that's not that's because we assume usually he's speaking until you're 20. But if somebody is a a bent and he's a a genius, he's brilliant and you know he's a and he walked down the knowing like so you going to tell me a person like that is is not of course he is and as a result that person could be punished even if he's less than 20 by the way just to go down memory lane for a second and is in this and that is we spoke about this once right spoke about it more than once The famous where the gumar tells the story about a very young who was ra had brought to be in the the mikdash that was the deal and uh sees that all the people are running trying to find a k says why are you trying to find a ken says cuz we have to the carb and we need a k to do the says what do you mean everyone knows and they bring him to a and a says you're saying very good But is we know the rest is history. Frank I don't understand [clears throat] was going to get misdi was a little boy. He was a and if he's a how could he be punished as it's posit wasn't going to give it's posit that a wasn't going to give misdon. He was a kotton. A cotton can't get misd. [laughter] But what a was posing was that and they were going to punish him. He says I know WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YOU HAVE TO BE EVEN older for they have to be 20. You're telling me that it wasn't that he wasn't uh 13. It's that and if you're not 13 be punished. But it's what do you mean for that? You have to be even seven years older. when it comes to being punished even though there's a number of 20 but really there's a concept there's a concept of having a child who's fully developed he's mature beyond his years and as a result someone like that could be punished and it was clear to a that IS A CHILD PRODIGY he's a budding superstar and clearly he developed at a much more rapid pas that's a den there it's you can't just give somebody mis He says, "I don't care how smart, how intelligent this person is." But when it comes to the number of 20 is really it's not a number, it's not an age. And if it's not an age, it's not going to be an issue. A little bit. He says he saw this says the reason he had to be 20 because otherwise he could have been punished. It's not true. 20 is not a real number. 20 is just where we assume at that point the person is is fully developed. Adarisha was clearly fully developed before he would have reached the age of 20. So you don't have to be mad that he was born 20 years old. HE WAS BORN ONE DAY OLD BUT this was and because it was for that reason this one but this is the second shot that the say what's the based on the which Ezra quotes in the beginning of paraso and that is that a person reaches his full height when he's 20 years old and it's aler brings this. By the way, this piece the brings all the different uh that could be the brings it and others bring this and that is the idea being because usually in they don't punish until somebody turns 20 but we're going to be punished must be they were created already then I want to suggest maybe you could say that uh is really very novel in terms of why and what is suggested that a person has to be 20 years old and that is that it's that a person doesn't just have one but a person has five nephesh ru the kadashim with his brings as a maramokim to this The Yeshua the Yeshua says that every person has a nephesh a and that's something that's as it relates to that's the fourth level of that's something only the refers to it as like that's what is and that's something only the great ones as relates to that's the highest maj The only person that was ever was but the bottom line is there's five levels of three of them to every person that take a look in the was written by he was the z of the great great and this is a He says as follows when a child is born and he emerges into this world he gets his nephesh that's the lowest level of soul and if he's going to behave properly when he turns 13 he's going to be to the second level and that's the level of Because that's when you become a proper and you know what happens at that time? What happens at that time is that's when a person gets the and if the person's going to continue going the right way when he turns 20 years old at that point he's going to be [laughter] there's three levels of that everybody is and that is but they don't come in one shot they come in phases. When a person's born nephesh when he becomes it's and when he becomes 20 years old at that point he's when does a person get he gets when he's 20 years old when he was created the SAYS he was born WITH WHEN DOES A PERSON get to you get to when you're 20 years Not not physically they were tall like they were 20 years old. Then now all of a sudden they could get they don't have to be 20 years old to get because you see [laughter] even though he wasn't made this means the spiritual makeup because ordinarily until a person's 20 doesn't have was created means he was the YOU GET WHEN YOU'RE 20 like the said like the If that's the case, that's the and he says that he was created full what does it mean that he was created full? It means what's the in what way was it's because it's because he was not only to the not only to the but he was to the as well and because he was to the that's where was that he was created from the truth is this is very very insightful in terms of understanding bar mitzvah in terms of understanding you know 20 which is a huge number right in as much as we said oh 20 is lavka but it's lavka meaning there's exceptions to the rule but as a rule it's a it's a huge huge number when a person turns 13 so obviously he becomes a god right now but it's not only based on a physical maturation but really there's an component to this as well the said that when a person is a he only has a nephesh and When a person's at a bar mitzvah, I don't know if a bar mitzvah has ever been told this, but when somebody becomes mitzvah, he's to his different his spiritual makeup is already he goes from being someone that has a neesh. Now all of a sudden he has a and then when he turns 20, he's that 20 year old birthday, right? You know, people have a meaning, they fast the day that 20, they stay up the whole night and they learn, right? There's different inhog in it's because yeah, there's something real happening. It's not just a number. He's being now to this is like a even a nicer thing in say but to all three of these things and because he was all three things that's the of because that is where it was manifest that he was created he was created Misana.