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האם מותר למסוק את הזיתים ומה דעת הגר"מ אליהו זצ"ל | הרב אלישע וולפסון
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My teachers and rabbis, the Hasidim,
all the rabbis, and all the righteous
ones: this Sabbath we are privileged to
meet our forefather Abraham. What a
merit. "Go to the land that I will show
you," and the Holy One, blessed be He,
in our Torah portion, promises our holy
land to Abraham our father: "And the
Lord said to Abraham, after Lot had
parted from him, 'Raise your eyes now
and look from the place where you are,
northward, southward, and eastward, and
westward, for all the land that you see
...'""
>> To you I will give it, and to your
descendants forever. Arise, walk about
in the land.""
>> Arise, walk about in the land, through
its length and its breadth, for I will
give it to you." And that is how the
Holy One, blessed be He, makes the
promise to our father Abraham in our
portion. And this promise is repeated
in the Torah many, many, many times—
throughout the entire Torah—that the
Holy One, blessed be He, promises the
Land of Israel to the people of Israel,
all of it. And the emphasis on "all"
recurs frequently. Consequently, the
people of Israel were also privileged
to inherit our holy land with Joshua,
and later, King David.
>> And we have been privileged, thank God.
>> We have been privileged, thank God,
even in this generation, after 2,000
years, to return to the Holy Land; we
have been privileged. In our generation
, to return to the Land of Israel, and
truly to have the prophecies fulfilled
that the Holy One, blessed be He,
promised us through the holy prophets.
And now a public question has arisen,
which as we see now, is not a question
that has only just come up, but now it
has hit the headlines even more: the
question regarding the olive harvest.
The olive harvest in the Holy Land,
which the Arabs......have planted many
trees here in the land, in the last
hundred years, And also, as we see here
, even in the place of the Temple, and
a big question has arisen: what is the
law? Is it permissible to harvest them?
Is it forbidden to harvest them? And
there is a major question here that
touches upon many areas, so naturally
...
>> Why should it not be?
>> Why should it not be? Why? Why not?
Because we know that, according to
Jewish law, robbing a non-Jew is
forbidden.
>> That is to say, if......a non-Jew
possesses something that belongs to him
, having acquired it lawfully, then it
is forbidden to rob him. And so the
question arises regarding these olives
—what is their status? What is the
status of the lands? Yes, this has
naturally come up in many discussions
regarding the establishment of
settlements, and whether one must...it
is clear that there is a situation
where the people of Israel conquer the
land, confiscate everything, and
everything is theirs. But the greater
complexity is that this is not done in
a way where the people of Israel
conquer it, but rather they allow......
the Arabs who were here to continue to
live here on those same lands. Yes, so
the question is how does one relate to
this from a halachic perspective? So I,
myself, have not delved into this
enough, nor at all as required. But I
do want to briefly address this with
whatever I can read to you from things
I have...I remember, I was in Psagot,
may the Almighty protect and keep them,
and there were trees outside the
settlement, and it wasn't like today...
It was like, to leave the settlement—
it took a certain amount of courage to
go a few meters outside the settlement
and harvest the trees. And even then I
was, I don't know, maybe 16 years old,
something like that. This drew, uh,
great criticism toward us for doing it,
and so I already asked our teacher and
rabbi, Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu, may he
live, and he answered me what I will
read to you now. I searched a bit and
found an article from the year 2002,
that is, 5762. Yes, 5762. Uh, right?
When it was the time of the whole war
with the intifada. There is an article
here appearing on the Ynet site by
Yinon Magal, Channel 10, saying
something in the name of the speaker,
etc. In any case, it is written here
that Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu came to
Gush Katif to strengthen them, and then
there is a quote here. According to
what they present here as a quote.
>> Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu, Rabbi
Mordechai Eliyahu, the Chief Rabbi–uh
, that was after he was Chief Rabbi, I
believe. Yes, it is written in the
verse: "Lands and the toil of nations
they shall inherit.""The nations shall
inherit," what is that? When a person
has a field, has land, someone comes
and plants a tree there without
permission, without the land owner's
permission, and the land owner didn't
see, didn't notice, or couldn't prevent
it. Afterward, he comes with power, so
he tells the tree owner: "You planted
on my land, and without permission; the
tree will stay here, the fruits are
mine, you leave from here." So if the
gentiles plant trees in our region,
plant fruits, plant houses even, and
also houses you did not build and trees
you did not plant–yes, as the verse
says–why? The land is ours, and you
built a house on my place, you planted
the tree–so the place is mine and the
fruits are mine too. So all these
things belong to the people of Israel,
the only question will be whether one
needs to set aside tithes or not set
aside tithes. Therefore it says: "And
the toil of nations they shall inherit"
–if nations do something in the land,
they will labor and labor, but they
will be inherited; this whole thing
belongs to us. Yes, that's what was
said.
>> Rabbi, that sounds like an accurate
quote. Yes, it sounds like an extremely
accurate quote. So that is what Rabbi
Mordechai Eliyahu said back then. And I
actually asked Rabbi Shmuel then, and
he also told me that in his father's
name. Practically speaking, uh, and
that is what Rabbi Lior, may he live,
may God protect and sustain him, also
published now. And there is a big
debate about this, every forum of
rabbis that I am in, yes–a mitzvah, a
desecration of God's name, broad
opinions. Uh, I, I am, I am saying, uh,
I, I don't, I know, I'm saying: I
really won't be a decisor because I'm
only saying this as a preliminary, uh,
to permit now, uh, in principle,
practically speaking. Now, any, uh,
land, uh, any fruits, etc., that
someone who is not a Jew has in the
land, who does not have a deed of
ownership that he bought it from a Jew
–it's a truly complex matter. There
are many debates and rulings about it.
Uh, and in this, there is truly much
room to discuss. But what has come up
for discussion now is, uh, trees that
the army does not allow the Arabs to
come and harvest at all. That is
supposedly what the big debate was
about. And there are also places where
the struggle over the trees is truly a
life-or-death struggle, a matter of
life. There are places where the
struggle over the trees involves trees
near settlements, which really
constitutes a life-or-death situation.
To anyone who still doesn't understand
that, what can we answer and what can
we say? May God have mercy. The enemies
'way of conquering the land is by
planting trees, coming to harvest them,
and being present among them; this is
both a matter of conquest and a
life-or-death issue, because from there
they also plan their moves to harm us,
and therefore...They learn the terrain.
>> Yes, yes. That is, there is a lot of
documentation that they use the harvest
as a terrorist organization, with all
that entails. Therefore, we come here
from this holy place to strengthen and
bless all those engaged in the
redemption of our holy land, doing so
properly and lawfully, in accordance
with the will of our Creator. And this
thing is a huge matter: to return and
reclaim the holiness, to fulfill the
prophecy that God promised us, "And you
shall eat the spoils of your enemies,"
which means thanking God and rejoicing
in Him. And on the contrary, if we
abandon them, we are, as it were,
ungrateful for the gift that the Holy
One, blessed be He, gave us. The Holy
One, blessed be He, gives you a gift,
and it is as if the Rebbe gives you a
huge gift. Are you saying, "No, it's
not for me"? What kind of thing is that
? Master of the Universe, the Holy One,
blessed be He, gives you the greatest
gift, the most precious place, gives
you the Land of Israel, gives you the
holy trees, brings you back to them,
and you have such dishonest arguments,
arguments of exile, of misery, of the
thought that we are not yet in the land
, that it is not yet ours, and it is
not really ours. One must know that the
entire Holy Land belongs to the People
of Israel. And truly, we are saying
here to all the nations, to all our
enemies: Know that everything you
invest is for us. So either leave or
keep investing, and know that it will
remain for the People of Israel because
this is our holy land. So fortunate,
fortunate are all the youth and all the
righteous who act. For the sake of our
land's redemption, and in doing so, may
we also merit to redeem the place of
our Temple, and of course, the Temple
Mount is no place for trees. As the
Torah says, "You shall not set up a
pillar for yourself," you shall make
yourself an altar. The Sages said that
even wooden structures should not be
built on the Temple Mount.
>> That is the plain meaning.
>> Yes, that is the plain meaning, it is
from the Torah.
>> Yes, and therefore, with God's help, we
will also merit to inherit our entire
land, including the place of our Temple
, and of course, to pour oil for the
meal offerings and the Menorah from the
holy trees; with God's help, may we
merit a complete redemption with mercy,
and may it be His will, Amen.