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בענין שחיטת מיעוט בתרא בקדשים

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I think it's Kadai to speak on a little bit of raid. It's been a few days and go back to raid that we spoke about at the beginning of the week and that is raid that relates not to to but raid that relates to the truth is tomorrow's daf we're going to return to our regular program. We're going to have again a lot of hashita here at the end ofash and that's going to segue us into. So again, we're doing a deep dive right back into the basic of so I don't know if this raid is more related to four days ago or maybe more related to what's coming in the future den. Regardless, in the beginning of the week, we discussed the which is also the which is what would be if you have a whoed of in a way where it would be a declared would that knock out the would that knock out the said take we mentioned is the Rashi says the is and then the he didn't even have to he went ahead and he And the is do you say that being that you got it right already so at that point I don't care that you messed up the no the end of the day I messed up a part of the and as a result this is going to be a problem said there's no way that's the because once you get of it right at that POINT FOR SURE IT'S KASHER SO HOW COULD YOU disqualify a animal once the animal was already gish temple that it's kosher. If it gets the glad kosher symbol on at that point you can't make a tra anymore. So says that the So what was the Shiloh? was not rather we also mentioned that there's a big ship what is Tom is asking a very good and we said the and really understood that should be a problem was only is to say but speaking that's never thought that there was a that should be an issue stating that brings that says no Rashi learned the even that is that even though which means that was Okay. But if you decide to go and do the and you mess up the is not going to be a what's the so we mention who said that we know when it comes to you have to sh the whole what is the of what's is the that the sheer of how much of the sim you have to And anything beyond is not even included in the sim or is the that the shear of how much you have to do is the entire sim [gasps] you just don't need to the whole sim for the entire sim to be because I have a whole in other words is is the inra or is the not even part of the it might as well be the foot as it relates to the if the shear of the is and you don't need more than so that last is not the part of the if the shear of the koi just rub is when I shed it's as if I did the whole thing that means when I shed I'm really shing everything I just didn't need to physically sh everything in order for it to be considered an as if I treated everything it's part to me that rash understood that the way and the The way Rubik works is is that really I need to shack the entire sim. The of says you have to shack the entire sim. No rub teaches me that if I shacked the roy as if I shacked the entire sim. But here's the point. It's true if I shack the as if I shacked the entire sim. But what if I decided to go AHEAD AND SHACK THE WELL THEN THE IS happening not the is happening my and if I go ahead and I mess up that look at the is going to be possible. meaning the mastra is not any less a part of the than the first parts of the nas I don't physically have to do it in order for it TO BE BUT IF I DO PHYSICALLY DO IT then the didn't happen I'll my and if my messed it up m if it was the last me if it was the first mid the reason there would be a between the last me and the first mid would be because I didn't have to do the last the last m's not part of the if the last is as the first m is well then I HAVE TO GET THAT PART right just like I have to get this PART RIGHT NOW IF I work with so I did picash then we consider it as if I did the last part in the same way also picash I got everything I NEEDED TO GET but once I DECIDE TO GO AHEAD AND DO the and I mess it up turns out a part of the was messed up part of the is messed up that in and it of itself is going to be an issue that's the ink mahalak of the blevi as it relates to understanding rashi. I saw in the shuvas abnar this is in ya simur he asks a bomb casher a cash from the world of kachchin the mishna in yum we saw this Mishna together in some of the previous staff over here discusses that void that was done by the keer and we know that all that void that Kipper had to be done by the Mishna says that when the would do the so he had to act fast. So what he do is he would and then he would allow someone to finish the what does mean? It means he would finish the last uh part of the he would do the proverbial matra and he would quickly run ahead and do the kabal. Now ordinarily the if he wanted to sh the entire animal mitzvah we know when it comes to scotch he would check the whole thing by himself but over here he couldn't check the whole thing by himself. He didn't have that liberty because he needed to be the one that was going to do the kabala because all that had to be done by it. So he would check and he would quickly do the who would do the last it would be done by somebody that wasn't a god says that the has and we go that when it comes to the as much as you don't have to do IT BUT IF YOU DO IT YOU BETTER get it right why is it okay for someone that's not the to go and do the mir TO DO THE MASTRA OF the oner has to do all the AND THAT'S WHY HE'S doing the up until the and that's why he's doing THE AND HE SHOULD ALSO have to DO THE MIRA WHAT ARE YOU going to tell me cuz you DON'T HAVE TO BUT ONCE YOU DO IT IT'S A PROBLEM SO IF no one's going to do but how could you allow to go ahead and do it once the non is going to go ahead and he's going to do it at that point. At that point, at that point, it turns out that the Mia was done not by audit of why is that not an issue? from dees there's another cash in the world of kin this kasha I saw in the in aish right in the beginning of also known as carbonus right the is called carbonus it's if somebody goes and And then he did the it's going to be because once you got rid of it right so who cares that you did the at that point in what's going on over here what DO YOU MEAN YEAH BUT IS A problem is a problem it's a so WHY IS IT SO posh that if a would go and he would do the end of the with a that it would be because YOU GOT OF IT RIGHT. It's true. If you get rid of it right it's fine. But the me you the good pun. THE MINUTE YOU DO THE AT THAT POINT YOU BETTER GET THAT M RIGHT BECAUSE IF YOU get that m wrong well then the it's on that and now you have that's already a problem. So at first glance at first glance we have two is a problem that's a take yet in the world of if a non doesn't sound like that's an issue that's not a steer the law that states that had to be done by the and if you do the doesn't sound like that would be a problem at first glance at first glance what's the at first glance What's the now? It feels like the isita's and right. That's certainly what it feels like. It's certainly what it feels like. And is I had the a few days ago to meet Solovves, my friend Pearl. he was staying at his house and um he gave me the opportunity to sit down and and to talk to him and a little bit of learning as well. So I asked him this and he told me it's posh. He said it's posh because when you it's considered when you it's considered a so that's why it's going to be a problem. It's not. And that's why in the world of where we're reckoning not does it have to be done it's not. So I said one second right so you always have to understand the rem said that and is really want to say and that's why he said right away that just means not and that was pretty much the conversation he told me to take a look at and he said take a look at the whole conversation took less than 60 seconds but the bottom line is I have told one thing but the rashi the boom the bottom this was his mahal There has to be some over here between and between the which is going to be more the I also had this to discuss this with one of the briskeras this week and um over the phone and he told me that he said he said that doesn't bother him that he said why? He said because what's the says that had to be done by the he said it's it's just the has to be to the has to do the he said it's if the does of the and then somebody's going to go ahead and he's going to do the it's not considered that the didn't do the meaning there's no den that says that if a nonod does a kipper the avoid becomes apostles, right? There's no that says that if a nonodle does avoid the apostles, it says that that the has to do the as long as the did of it, it's considered that the congodle DID IT. I SOMEONE else did the last me. Who cares? That doesn't bother me. The fact that a nonodle did the mute, that doesn't stare the fact that doesn't stare the fact that the ra of it was done by the kodle. So that it's still considered that the kongo did the and as long as we can see it as if the kong did the in of itself is going to be enough and it doesn't bother me that also did it meaning let's say could do it and a nonod could do it it would be maybe fine again after divide the but it was done by the he said and um told me a very very long But I just want to suggest maybe one thing and maybe it's posit at least again this is clearly for conversational purposes only and that is and that is that why is it that if somebody has a as it relates to let's talk about the second said that it's that if someone has by the is it's not going to disqualify the carbon. Why is it different than which is a which according to as quoted by the with the lus of the it's true even on a dice at the gap I didn't have to do the m but if I messed it up it's a problem so I didn't have to do the at the very very end but if I had let it disqualify let it pass so why is it that if you do is it's a problem I just ask the question a little bit better right So right this is uh to quote my son that's the first question everybody asks when they start learning kach so why is it that if you have a you know it's going to be a problem the rear liner said okay nobody have a why should ava be a problem when you're doing he also said that after sitting and learning kchum for two years you still don't have a clut exactly how to answer that question but the bottom line is I think he's right but [laughter] the bottom line is is that what what's what's but the and the brisk is it's based on the fact that anything that you need to do anything that's the of the carbon if you have a the is going to pass the is is that is carbon but you have to figure out a way to get the into the carbon right how do you bring how you your to the carbon so if you're doing something that's the carbon and you have a at that time that somehow brings the into the carbon and knocks out the carbon but here's the point the of what creates is anything that's in the carpet and really the talking but you know most instances it's the same and the Bryce over there says You would think that if somebody does and he does in the world of pigle And this is the you see for me that anything that's be like the talking about that is that is going to have the ability to go ahead into the car. So maybe you could say it's posit that if somebody and then he fears and he does the is that that is considered and that's why is a problem on the level because like the was when you do the you're doing because not only of the in the entire it's just that you didn't have to the last in order for it to work. But once you right that's a double that's the way it works and it's for that reason it's for that reason in the event that you it's going to be a problem and if it's considered a right I think it's posh I mean it's not posh but there's mock to say that it should be considered an avoid as well cuz a [laughter] is considered a what you did in the past it should also be considered did in a what it is that you did in the midstra stating that let me ask you a question when you get up to the masra right now do you have to check it do you have to DO THE M YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO YOU COULD STOP RIGHT THERE IF I DO IT IT'S A IF I DO IT IT'S DID I have TO DO IT NO I DIDN'T have to do it if I DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT you can't have Because that's the rule. The rule is NOT which is also something I don't have to do. When you're learning the question is is the Yes. And it could be even that ALREADY IS THAT. BUT THE question is if that's the case, if it's a and if it's an so why if I did the miracle the carbon the terror is because I didn't have to do that and being that I didn't have to do that being that I didn't have to do that. So it's for that reason it's NOT IT'S NOT IT'S LIKE OCTO'S GOING TO TELL YOU THAT'S NOT IT'S BUT THERE'S A IT HAS TO BE WHEN I GET UP TO this point I don't have to do the next move if I want to drop my guns I could drop it take the sword put it on the floor let's make peace I have every right to do that I have every right to do that means it's not of anything if it's not it's gonna be okay and I think I have a bru to this the beginning of per sh the fourth IC of so whether the was if somebody would have the says but says true for as well if somebody would have a pelis during any one of those it would be a problem once I do the first at that point if I would have a pelis by one of later zas it would not disqualify the carbon why because once I did the first zero right I don't care what I did afterwards because I don't have the ability to pass after I already made caution let me ask you a question is there anyone in the world who's going to tell you that the latter of the [laughter] of the are not considered of course there and there's a mitzvah that you have to go ahead and you have to do there's no sh in the world that these ARE REGULAR ZAS BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE A MASH'S PICKLE. Why can't you have a MASH PICKLE? THE TER IS BECAUSE IT'S NOT OF KAP BECAUSE IT'S NOT OF KAPOR. So you see already that we could spell the and we could say that even though it's all but it's only the I need to do where I have the ability to be uh I have the ability to have but the I don't have to do doesn't have that ability with the same way the I have to do the here I can the later are also now full different because once I do the I have to do I'm done I already got my full you know I still have to do But again, that doesn't bother me. The bottom line is that you see from it doesn't bother you. But here's the bottom line. The bottom line is is that when I go ahead and it's considered a considered as well. Why then is it if you have a not going to be an issue? It's because over there the criteria in order for this to be considered an for the to disqualify is it has to be anapor that that I don't have to go ahead and do it. It turns out it's not it's true if I do it it's the same like the first part of the which was [laughter] but right now we pause we freeze the screen and we say do I have to do this move? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But do I have to fear? I don't have to fear. So if I don't have to fear rice, LET IT BE a you know when you learn you take for granted and say right that's right like why is that right almost I don't care about what do you mean is a big deal according to someone right try being a doing It's not going to end well. So these are not things you're allowed TO DO. IN THE THAT'S THE less than this is NOT BUT IT COULD BE the he means you need to be I don't have to do that and if I don't have to do that would make it not bottom line is I think this is a fascinating concept and that is that when you learn is this big deal one of the most sugis in the first part of isashi with the other by the way we may come back to this a lot more to talk about as it relates to the there's a lot there but it's interesting that when you learn The mid pasra is this whole now who are you mid pasra nice to meet you when you go the midra gets its own name it's called and the mir you want to be a non do it he did I don't care the whole doesn't bother me it's clear that this some distinction going on over here the but could be this is the could be the that when it comes to what we care about is or is because really that's the only thing I'm zoning in on anyways what I'm focusing on is not if I do it the whole nine yards but I don't have to do it and it could be that I don't have to do it that makes it not so that even if I do it and I do it the wrong way it could be it won't be an issue