בענין החידוש הידוע של הגרי״ז במחשבת שלא לשמה בקדשים (ב)

Last night we went through the from the brisker of as it relates to understanding by caution. We mentioned that the brisk that although the conventional way of understanding how impacts the carbon as it relates to it would make it as it relates to it would actually make it possible is being that there's a that have to have when you're lacking the and because you're lacking the the carbon is going to be possible. Now if you didn't have any at all even though then too you didn't have a it would be because that's but the point is the conventional way of understanding and how it makes a carbon possible is because there's a on some level for a carbon to be brought and to the extent the carbon is lacking one of the key ingredients that makes it kosher and as a result the carbon is now going to be possible. But the brisk was that that's not the way it works. The brisk said that once Ra said that when it comes to stomach that means that if you do the carbon regardless of whether you whether you think or even if you the carbon is always going to be brought that's the idea of and as a result it's a that's built into the carbon that when you do a with a carbon it's automat automatically. If that's the case, why is it that when you have it's that it's going to be possible? It's because there's a new that you have in the states that if you do the and you have a that is going to be that is going to make the carb impossible. It's not that when you have a the carbon's lacking the and it's for that reason the carbon's possible. Your has no ability to make the carbon lacking the means that it's built in. It's automatic. The reason when you have a is that it's going to be parcel is because that has the ability to just like there's a called there's a called there's another that's called that is a bomb that has an ability to make a carbon and if you think about it the was saying in the was saying The girl was saying is that the is not that when you do the that's enough in order for the carbon to be in order for a carbon to be you have to have the of is that when you do it it's automatically ah you thought st you didn't think lishma how could your stomach become a lishma it's because the ofishma says that uh carbon is automatically brought and being that it's automatically brought even when you're thinking even when you're thinking it's going to be considered that you brought it that's a in the also said and how a carbon you would think a carbon because now that it was you don't have you don't even have mainly you're lacking what you need it's going to be poses no once you understand a you can't say that anymore because the carbon is male. It's automatically even when you're thinking. Why then is going to pass the carbon? It's because of it's a concept that's unique to the something you don't find which states that if you have a while you're doing a while you're bringing a carbon the carbon is going to be possible as for that reason this carbon now is going to be a problem. We mentioned that the safer brings two rayas from the one we mentioned last night that's worth is the from the said that is going to be what's the difference and the way the came out it's really based on a We learn from there. I don't understand the idea of being possible but being every even if you want to tell me that is not a because and there's a but at the end of the day you don't have right you didn't think you thought and in this case you don't even have because you didn't think You thought if that's the case, how could it be said? This is my grace that really even when you have or even if you have it's always considered and is not it but that's enough. No, the is that when it's you really have a why then is a problem? because there's something called teaches me that order for something to be considered it has to be on it has to be if it's not going to be a problem. But what's the every you're missing because it's not even stomach the terret is you can never remove the from a carbon the only thing you could do is create a being that this would not create said it's very the with the when he talks about the concept of is a place of carbon. He says there's three types of that can make a carbon. There's something called the fact that makes a carbon is because it's like you did everything right. You had a bad is what's wrong with this carbon. When you have a the is not that you did everything right nor you had this bad thought by you having this bad thought you're lacking in the of the is just to not have to not even have a stomach how could the it's that really stumble means that you're always going to have. It's just that when you have the that is a bond that has the ability to knock out the carbon. No different. That's why the put it all together. The Ram said that way also of when it comes to understanding when it comes to understanding how works again clearly implying that together of is not that when I have a I'm lacking in the garbage. I'm never lacking the it's automatically built into the garbage. It's just that when I have the there's a bad that has the ability to pass. Just like if that's the case, it's in the of the like Rashi says regarding another thing that said very is that with this you could understand because the signon of the first week of is all the different and all the different how you know learned who there's a whole bunch of that really teaches us this there's another on the where the garra says that you know how you know that there's a when it comes to it's learned that from a par of the carbon fra That's how you know how did the first per ofget about this. I have two that seem to not be in tandem with each other. What's these has a little bit of a couldn't learn like so that the two of the two that you have in the basis of and regarding that and that's why ultimately practically speaking doesn't really play itself out so much but the bottom line is is that A HAS TO BE THAT'S learned out from The first is teaching me the how do you know that if I do with it's going to make the carbon or by it's going to make it possible how do I know by how do I know by how do I know by that's the first per there's two in because there's two as it relates to understanding that is of k by e by e by e by e by e by e by e by e by e by either way this is the brisker I don't think I'm going out on a limb by saying it's likely the most famous that the brisk gave the but as promised just to take this one and talk a little bit about the postcript some anecdotes as it relates to how the tumold in the bish regarding this from the brisker So we're going to mention three and all three of them are very prominently featured in the safer of this is in the in that was written by a generational talent. So we've had this to quote from over the years seven and a half years ago but he put out did rebel Rubin right now uh a new madura with about 500 extra pages and just to quote rebel Rubin's own thought of what safer oam is and don't kill the messenger this is an exact quote quote brisk you too can learn in yeshiva's brisk takeer into your house and immediately meaning you don't have to wait here you could enter immediately but either way this is the h and a lot of the from that's what's going on in the s of it's a mustave if you're sitting down or learning with the briskerade. But either way, so three, all of which are in the first is and just to be mocked, one of the in the brisk that we mentioned last night was that briskov said that between his understanding of how works versus the conventional way of understanding how works. again conventionally he asked the man on the street what's the reason that impacts a carbon like or even worse it's possible it's because that a carbon has to be and to the extent that you have the carbon doesn't have the it needs it's for that reason it's going to be poses based on everything that we just mentioned that that's not the way it works really because of the carbon has the it needs there's a new that is just is a said that there would be a grace in between the two and that is what would be for example if a would do a which is one of the four critical and we have a now there's still leftover dam that's for to go ahead and be could he be macking now the carbon by going and doing a proper or is it already too late that it would be in the of if is the that you're just lacking in the that means that when a does a there's no soul in the carbon it's just that the didn't check off all the boxes that it needs in order for it to be considered a if you didn't do a cabal it's as if the dam was okay so that dam right now is not dam that you'd be able to go do a with but to the extent that there's more dam go do the now with and everything's going to be okay. If however the understanding of is that it's a ple it actually disqualifies the cababala that means you did a ple of kabala you didn't not do a kabala you did a ple of kabala a ple cabala parcels the carbon and if that's the case there's no way to be misculate by going ahead and doing a a kabal so in his classic piece says that this would be the between the two it's interesting one of the important Importantness in terms of the postcript of this prriskov is in the from and learned by and in the rashimo that he had left over after his there was a shar that he wrote he heard and it's this of the brisk as it relates to and the surface In the Alam's notes that are very important, they're critical in terms of the hashl of understanding the brisk one of the that said is that when he heard she from the brisk and when the said over he to another and that was the is that if you have kachim that's ple so is it requires stating that there are times that in order to burn the kachum you first have to have what's called ibsur you need the kachchum to decompose a little If the kachchum is fresh meat, you're not going to go ahead and burn it. It's considered a bazillion. Once it's nishan a little bit, it's not so perfect anymore. So then we're a little bit more comfortable allowing you to go ahead and burn it. The rule is that if the carbon is pleat, the bosser of the carbon for example has apostles. So then you're allowed to burn the bosser even without any iort. If however there's something wrong with the gaffra or there's some studies of salt. So then is you wouldn't be allowed to burn it unless there's a sok said he heard from the brisk that the brisk said this would be another if the reason that is possible is simply because of what it's lacking it's lacking so then it's would require an in order for you to be able to burn this if however there's a positive soul of it's like which the would not require cuz there's a a bomb inside this carbon and is you'd be able to burn it. But the bottom line is in the classic understanding of how works versus the brisk understanding of how works. We mentioned last night that the said that the issues whether is or is right said is he was but in the of the garra the garra is not 100% Sure. How does Raan know that ST is caution? maybe really stumble right the had a few attempts fail attempts before it finally came up with the raid and the on base but the bottom line is the gar is very open to the possibility that maybe stole said I don't understand how the gummor could have that is possible there's so many in the first that talk about where the not an appropriate and it's for that reason the is that it's not a and the carbon is GOING TO BE BREAK the brisk if possible then how could a bad how could IT BE BETTER THAN IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE FOR example that's the is going to be break the brisket up that's That's a how can there be a a says that is not going to be in other words it's going to be and at the same time should be pos could be any better than stomach or for example who had a that in the event that you have a But it's right. So is then it's going to be because if it's going to be it's going to be possible in that there too. How could it be at the end of the day? How could the be better? How could the Roman be better than said it's that from the fact that the was willing to entertain the that is possible despite the fact that there are that teach me where you can have a and it's going to be that means there's whether it is ava or not even if you stole it means I could stle and it's still that I'm going to have now another that the girl brings is right the only time of right if someone has a mind to bring a that's a but it's going to be it's what do you mean it's if anything it's stumb and you're telling me THAT STOMACH'S POS CAN'T BE BETTER THAN stom even if you hold stomach's poses or It's not a mash. Meaning at first glance if stom is pussle who cares it's about and not it's ple but the said you see not that way because if that were true then the would have proved that is from the fact that and from the fact that from and the didn't do that. So if that's the case that even if he stole it's still neg because if the carbon's going to be ple out sto if the carbon is going to be ple out that would just mean that the carbon is lacking the okay if you want to go ahead and be there let's say go ahead and be and when it comes to straight for you wouldn't need an but if there's a now you have that which is even if you hold it's even IF YOU HOLD AND THAT would now if you went ahead and you did a with the wrong so you can't be if you want to burn it you wouldn't need any because now you have the but the point is the said that this lumbness of being If you hold stomach that's if you hold stomach it has to be that's the way works but really even if you hold and he said it's that way and we from the fact that all those are not called whether or not they're considered or not is even if you told that stomach is possible. So here's the and I'm reading this is quote from the days it's page he writes as follows brisk for this part already. We'll read about that is so was he was and in the middle of when was saying over this from the brisk and be this last piece that we just prefaced. So he asked the following says that only passels a carbon if the is being done meaning the only time a will pass a carbon is if everything other than is perfect. If however the one doing the was not someone that's able to do the avoid or it's being done in an where it's not a so then wouldn't possible. So an example would be if a was doing the with his left hand is not a way to do the so if he would then have enough it has to be it would be possible half of a fellow he saidov said that even if stomach would be possible it's not but even if stomach would be possible it would still be nea that if one would have it should be considered a because of the affformentioned right could you do a new could you burn it without so that he asked was that I don't understand where would it be the second that the should be avo And it should say that now the carbon is going to be pled to the level that it has this bomb on it that you can't do a new cabal or you can burn it without a stomach's possible. It's possible because you're lacking the isn't it built into the carbon? Yeah, if you hold some BUT IF YOUR STOMACH A means you have to have the and if you don't have the it's also possible because he had the and of itself is a bond that makes the carbon in other words if you hold stom every time you have a there's really two that are two over here in this carbon number one you have the of a carbon has to be let's use the vernacular You have the additionally you have the problem that you have and right you have THAT OTHER ALSO THE point is this tupulum over here if there's meaning if there's a stumblish without the s of the then how does the piselis make a ple Why is it different that if it's not we have a the only time a has the ability to is when if everything other than the is good if you hold every time you HAVE A THERE'S ANOTHER YOU KNOW WHAT THE others is FELT IN THE LISHMA AND IF YOU HOLD STOMACH PEL YOU DON'T GET THAT BUILT IN THE WHOLENESS of the biscuit is TO EXPLAIN STOMACH BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT AND TO THE EXTENT there's another reason that this carbon is has no ability to because it's no different that if this is the asked in the middle of so going back to he writes thought a lot about this question. He said, "You have to think about it a little bit more." And he went the next day's brisk. He thought it over and the whole Kasha fight started and he went ahead to explain and this will say B also and that is Yeshua said what would be if uh Coen would have a mash pigle and then he would have a mash piggle again and then some and then some he would do also it's part that all four mash pigles would be considered mash pigles In fact, he would get Malcus for the pickle that he had for the pickle that he had. You could ask that. I don't understand. Why should he get malus for the mash's piggle that he had? Once there was already a mash pigle that the carbon so at that point the carbon's already a carbon. So when you have the bashab it's no different than if you had a mash doing smile with is that it's not the is the ter is because the reason THAT THIS CARBON IS posling the carbon it was pos BECAUSE A PIGGLE RIGHT NOW IT'S VIGLE THE WAY WE look at IT IS LIKE BUT THE BOTTOM LINE is it's one big when we say that means that if you're going to have a now and there's another reason there's some stud reason why this is anyways possible so then this doesn't have the ability to pass but if the reason that the carbon is poss that you're having right now well then it's posit that this wouldn't be true the of mish means dominate this soul that you're trying to impart on the garden right now. IF THERE'S ANOTHER PROBLEM, well then you can't make it more problematic with this mash that you had. This mash is not going to have the ability to impact in the case where you had the and you had already had the reason the carbon is anyways puzzle is not for it's for the same reason that you're trying to make a puzzle right now. It's literally and it's for that reason it's not a if it's not you don't have the now you're going to say what do you mean it was independent pickles it's true it's independent mash pickles but at the end of the day it's the and we look at the pickle in totality as one and being that the piggle everything is perfect so it's for that reason the mash's piggle is going to be mash's pickle so from Yeshua said that you have have to say that even though the briskad that there's two denomin that a carbon has to have will only be satisfied if you actually think if it's or worse you think it's going to be lacking that and the fat but at the end of the A they're that both coming from the same place from the same and that is there's a par of when it comes to now the parish of when it comes to IS IT'S MADE UP OF TWO SUBCATEGORIES ONE IS YOU HAVE TO have and the other one is going to pass but at the end of the day the soul of I'm missing the lishma and the soul of I had a like two pickles. They're both the same. And being that it's that as it relates to the as it relates to that if you would have two pigles you would be for the second once you had the first it's anyways possible. It's because it's only when the other is study that we say. So too as it relates to these two of the only time we would say that would be a problem is if there'd be some study of why the possible. The fact that it's possible is not avy. It's and it's for that reason. It's for that reason said with the is the reason that is the reason why it's true if one would have and he did wouldn't be a but if you hold and you have is it's still going to be a problem. And the reason is because is a study but even though there are two in the even though they're learned out from two different parachies in the one's learned from the parish of the other's from the parish of it doesn't matter at the end of the day and being that they're both coming you can't view it as a study if you can't view it as a study it's for that reason it's not going to be an issue and this was the terror that brisk that's the first from the safer of the second order is we mentioned that's big riot is from at first glance it feels like a checkmate Okay. How could you tell me from today till tomorrow? But at the end of the day, it's not and it's not. And if there's a that a has to be or at the very least stumble then how in the world is this from here that stumbles is automatic and even when you have it's still stating that there's a govern what defines one of the in that is and that's why is that it's going to caution very compelling. So in and this is on page nun he brings from the safer zakov. So the zakov is also a safer. It was written by a nag rabiano Liebermanita who from the talid rabish leashiva and shakiva incidentally when I was in brisk and I learned cach I had from liver he's a bonafide mic margis koda but either way so he wrote a safer called on that's the 13th and he wrote another safer on the 14th paratus but either This is in the back of his sampus is in sim giml. So he has a little bit of a maro on this briskerov. So he writes that the cash of the briskarov the riot this compelling checkmate of the briskarov bothered him very very much because there's mock him to think that when we say that it could be it's a very very pushed this far mean didn't understand at the end of the day every time you have a typically it's also not stumb And if it's not then how could it be must be it's automatically declare not that way if somebody would go ahead and he would do the and then he starts spacing out I don't know he starts thinking about some is there a in the world that that he's having would be of course not in order to be the that you have has to be something that's in the conversation something with the if it's not with how in the world would it EVER BE YOU'RE BRINGING a carbon you're doing the you're thinking about what's for dinner tonight that doesn't the stalishma there's no to the to the and the of the carbon so it's posit that in order to be the status quo of stalishma it would have to be a to be able to rear on and to and to have an ability to be on some level to stumble. So if that's THE CASE IS saying being that IT HAS NO TO him and IF IT HAS NO SH to him IT'S LIKE HE WAS SPACING out thinking about what's for dinner tonight and as a result it has no ability to go ahead and bear meaning I'll tell you is a very means if you think it's if you think it makes it I let every that it should at the very least not be says no when the says but what the is saying is that is not made to the of carbon and it's for that reason it doesn't have the ability to touch the stomach if it doesn't have the ability to touch the stomach it's going to be kosha taka Because it is CONSIDERED STOMACH. NOT BECAUSE it's automatically stomach, but because IT'S A STOMACH. I IT'S NOT a stomach. It's not a stomach. Any you have makes it a stomach. You agree that's not the case. There is it has to be A QUALIFIED MASH. IT MEANS it's not a qualified mash. It's not a qualified mash. It has no ability to impact the stomach. This is the bothered him. So he writes that he went to Rome allevi and he asked this kasha and raha told him that he remembers that he once asked this kasha to the tata he asked this kasha to the tata and the biscatu he say he didn't really have what to say he was masking he was masking to the kasha was masking to the kasha then he was that in the madura of the brriskarov's he brought this and then he said this pbook said could be what the means when it SAYS to have the ability to be the status quo of the truth is if you take a look at Minska's cheer that he wrote down that heard from the briskar he brings the briskov asked this kasha and then the briskar was precisely for this reason so heard it and our lady said that he saw in the in the first edition of the briskar in the mad the briskar brought the but then he said I'm not 100% sure it's still right you can't walk away with this happy because the briskar in the first madur asked the why because in the madur that we have and the madur that you have on your briskarov is not and the briskar brings it as a clear check so if that's the case right the fact that someone else asks The kasha makes some people happy. It doesn't end the conversation. At the end of the day, you still have to be mash and refract the brisk himself you see in the later maduras seemed to be very uh persuaded. He was very satisfied with this cash or with this and if that's the case why was he so satisfied the fact said he said what does it mean when we say what's the kasha what does kasha mean so what did it start does kasha mean it's kasher it's 100% kasha it could be that kasha means that it's kash that you could do is and you could be and you could eat the but it's still going to be like in other words is always possible as opposed to there it's going to be it's not going to be a bonafide but at the same time it's not going to be better it's it's going to be but at the same time being that it's still going to be if you take a look at the when he brings the says it's if the said it's what does that mean that means as much as we're saying as much as we're saying there's a BUT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT AT ALL BECAUSE IF IT WASN'T at all it would be 100%. IT' BE A MAH BUT IT'S NOT IT'S THAT MEANS IT IS BECAUSE IF NOT THEN IT WOULD BE FROM THE FACT THAT it's for sure it has an ability to be if it has an ability to be it's a real THEN IT'S NOT STORER MUST be must be you can never BUDGE THE STOMACH WHAT YOU NEED IS A AND in as much as THIS IS BUT IT'S NOT A fight to make it possible but the bottom line is that's where the brisk sris that it's part that together that together of why it is not because has no and as a result it's would have the ability to be you can't say the is not the riots Now the terrorist is that's built in and even doesn't have the ability to be if that's the case. So why is this why is that that every time there's there's a new that's the second the third and this is also from the and I'm reading from page really it starts on page so he brings that there's a a contress that was printed in men al of the journal This was on. Now this contress was a gillion from the mirror of and he named this rebel. I didn't look up the I don't know if this is just general on all the but there's a few that are brought here and say for that are specific to so he has a whole regime of different that asked on the brisk I want to mention one of them this is really really he said as follows that everyone knows that this as it relates to this it's the right I mean this is obvious right everyone knows It's safer says it was that if you take a look at and this is held like the brisker of so what's the context the context is said that he heard that discusses what would be if somebody makes sites but also so one of the places in the that you find ideally is when it comes to making sites has to be made what would be if someone has a while he's making so says would be possible why do I say that would be possible because just like you find a if you would do the it would be possible so just like so So too if somebody would make it would be possible said that he said I'm quoting when it comes to the reason is that if you have the carbon ple is not because when you have YOU'RE LACKING BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED which means that it's automatically and even when you have you can't make it that when you think IT'S literally you hear what's going on here it's literally That's why if you do a and you have a mind it's going to be possible why because even though you thought wakes up in the morning the problem is that you have and that's why it's going to be an issue is supposed the problem is Not because of who it's because you're lacking over here. You could say I don't understand is saying that just like so if somebody would be no where you're dealing with the is that of apostles. So over there you could say if you had a mind it's a problem because it's very nice you had a mind but the minute you had a mind that's a that's a bomb that knocks out the however when it comes to sites there's no that sites there's a thing you have to have there I can hear this is just the opposite if I had and I had it should be fine right in it's perfectly logical to cut the baby in half in that way when it comes to kin you have to make sure you don't have a okay you had a who cares you had a and when you understand what are you make you anyways always have the right every time you have a it's really because the is built in we're not going to get into that but it's part that's really the way it is every single time you have a it's not that's the but it's part of why is going to be a problem because it's very nice you had but you had TELL US WHEN IT COMES TO I DON'T CARE about there's no dev is an issue what is the issue when I have I don't have well if I had I did have the and I had the it should be okay but said one thing I see from it we're not trying to answer the now that's for another day but one thing you SEE FROM THIS IS SO WHAT'S GOING ON the brriskarov plagiarized the most famous brriskarov of all time is not even the briskarov So I'll tell you what Ruben brings. says if you take a look at the safer alto was written by the of lean and led was aid brisk and he was very naunt with mara grizz there's a lot of different things that we know very very very authentic from le as it relates to the brisker either way so in the alab and this is on page they bring that they ask this this question was asked. They said everyone says from the brisk and it's printed in this is the brisk's most famous piece brings that heard this to ask. So what's going on over here? Here's the quote. This was really the biscar's going and what happened was said overhris said that they were walking back and forth in the of brisk and they were fighting over the they were fighting like fire it's this is the way works and wasn't mas until the end they said you know what we're going We're going to go to we're going to go to the the Supreme Court. We're going TO GO TO THE train of them. And they came to the brisk and and they came to and was his and was and said and that's why brought it said it's true brought it but the briskar didn't hear it from heard it from the briskarov. Either way, now you know the rest of the story, and we're going to