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בענין חצי שיעור בגניבה וגזילה

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But I just want to end with one last a beautiful maram inesh and that is the in the beginning of it's the first inv. If somebody goes ahead and he steals a or more he's the stating that even though that's true but you're not let steal even so is that when it comes to you can't steal from somebody even a says also in even though the is talking and says the same exact that's in if [snorts] you take a look at the in the beginning of if take a look at the magishna on that ram the magna says quote It's referring to and by the way this whole idea that you'd be for oh it's like it's true for right we discussed it in the context of so many there's no reason it shouldn't be true with regards to as well says 57a Okay, you hear the dick. Do this one more time. 57A. but invest. But he didn't invoke these are identical made a beline to the same but here he added the one line and did not add that line says he says why is it that is awesome so he brings from And our list is the and that it's based on the fact that meaning after you do the half you could always go ahead and do another half a share. He says I want to ask you a question. If somebody would steal from somebody and then he would go and he would steal from that person another pasut would the two bear or would they not be mitarf says here's my is they won't be mitarif you know why because the says in that very same it says it elsewhere as well that a person is if somebody takes from him and being that is So this it's yours. You don't have to give it to me anymore. So once I'm you you don't owe it to me. I later you stole another half. Whatever. That's uh that's that's another half that I'm maybe at some point they'll stop being but once I'm right if you chip away then at some point I'll get the memo. But the bottom line is you this person is if this doesn't pass. What's the difference between a and a right? We know the gazin doesn't pay kayful. The gan pays careful. What's the difference? The gazel looks you between the eyes and he takes it. The ganv goes in a cunning way. He goes in a discreet way. When someone is a gland, you know he's a golin. When someone is a ganv, you don't necessarily know that he's avil steal. He knew it from a gar says to I'm wondering you think this has something to do with can't be you know why because the guy knows you stole and we have an implied that he was once HE'S NOT IF HE WOULD steal another half a as a result this can't have nothing to do with anything to do with and it's for that reason it's posit this must be just a separate but in hil is gene WHERE AND DOESN'T know that it was taken away from him. He doesn't know to be. He doesn't KNOW TO BE. AH, if he would know about it, he would be. What's the answer to that? We passing like not for now, right? But that's we touched on enough big in this. But here's the point being that navy doesn't know about it. See, HE DOESN'T KNOW TO BE. IF HE DOESN'T KNOW TO BE if it's going to work could be that's this in this such subtle you know the talk about teaching us in such a subtle way in where there's a there's no if there's no can't inv doesn't know to be if it's over there you're going to have it but this says is only true if you learn like you learn like you learn like that the way works is that it physically requires you to be able to do another act for it to bear but if the way works is I could have So I could HAVE STOLEN ENOUGH WHERE THERE WOULDN'T be but like he held like means that it physically has to be and if that's the case that's the why invoked and in he did not invoke just to really come full circle and that is that we said that they said there to answer who's why did the need to teach me and the blind what would be in why the wouldn't have answered the way and the answered is because maybe the Mishna held that the way works is not that I could be mitarif later it's that I could have done more so what the terrace ter was that what would be a case where I eat it by where there's no time anymore for it to bear that's all true if I needed to bear but JUST MEANS I COULD have earlier made I could have had more then that is not going to be in other words the maybe maybe is a for the fact that he didn't say what said that he must have held like the other doesn't mean that But means that I could have done more. All I was missing was inir. If that's the case, it's really a between the Mishna and the magishna from Frank's in the magna and hil gaz you see that he held like the shag and you see he held like the means that after I do a half I have to be able to do another half for it to go and bear and that's this. That's true. It's not true by there's always going to be whereas from the fact that he didn't answer like answer doesn't require me to the fact that oh I'm lacking that enough is going to be in other words of exactly how works his bishop whether this with regards could be really is between the magishna and the bottom line is again this very in terms of how to understand we discussed it in the context of bishop gene First glance this would seem to be a huge a huge mus and we will stop