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הרה״ג שאול דוד בוצ׳קו שליט״א: מותר ומצווה לעלות להר הבית! גדולי ישראל התנגדו גם לעלייה לארץ ישראל!!
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שיחה מרתקת מתוך פודקאסט של ערוץ 7 בין דביר עמר לרב בוצ'קו על עלייה להר הבית בימינו
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Yes, so this...
>> Speaking of the Temple Mount, Rabbi,
are you one of those who go up to the
Temple Mount?
>> What?
>> Speaking of the Temple Mount, Rabbi,
are you one of those who go up to the
Temple Mount?
>> I think it is permitted to go up, I
think it is a mitzvah to go up. Of
course, I also don't want any
controversy over it; I respect those
who say otherwise, everything is fine,
but it seems to me that the arguments
to permit it are quite clear—
permitting it for the permitted areas,
of course. No one is saying it's
allowed to go to a forbidden area, but
to go to a permitted area.
>> The discussion is about the boundaries.
Where, if it is clarified?
>> The discussion is more, it is more
about whether we need to do, to do,
what do you call it? To enact a decree
and prevent it altogether, or because
of what rabbis said 40 or 50 years ago,
that they are different situations and
we shouldn't change. Everything,
everything is fine. I am not coming...I
think things are very clear. There is a
tradition of where the Holy of Holies
was, it's under the Dome of the Rock;
that is what the Radbaz wrote, and that
is what many, many others wrote. And
therefore, we know, so more or less it
is possible to take measurements and
know that for everything else, there
are no, there are no problems with it.
>> What does the Rabbi say about the fact
that most of the great sages of Israel
opposed it?
>> I, I tell you: most of the great sages
of Israel—what they call the great
sages of Israel, what the greatness of
Israel is—opposed ascending. Yes,
they opposed ascending to the Land. One
cannot deny this thing. Not all,
certainly not all—many, yes—but
what seemed close then, it also seems
close today. Rabbi Elisha Weiss, he is
my nephew, head of a yeshiva there,
brought, brought 200 rabbis who do go
up, yes? So I...it's impossible, one
can't rule based on who is the greatest
. That is not how rulings are made.
Rulings are made based on the arguments
. Maimonides already said: hear the
truth from whoever said it, not from
whom it was said. Accept the truth from
...whoever said it. Yes? So I, before,
before I decided to go up, yes, first
of all my father also thought like that
, that is, my father wanted to, but he
never went up, but he wrote, there is a
letter that he wrote to Rabbi Shaul
Cohen who strengthened him in...in his
opinion, so the matters from a
scholarly perspective are really not
difficult. They are really not
difficult now.
>> But what is the term "Greatest of the
Generation"? The Rabbi says...
>> I cannot get into that. I don't want to
say things that might turn out, who...
no, no, no, no, incorrect. I think that
a person has responsibility in his life
. I tell my students, also my father...
I'll tell you what my father told me
when I was a teenager: he told me, "
Don't do things because I told you to,
but because you are convinced by them."
To be blind and accept...ah, how do you
say? "You shall not deviate from the
words they tell you, to the right or to
the left." To say that about every,
about every rabbi. That is not correct.
That was said in the Halacha regarding
the Sanhedrin. And one cannot bring
that...A person, the Holy One, blessed
be He, gave everyone intellect, gave
everyone a soul, and gave everyone
responsibility for what they do. There
is no agency for a transgression. It
doesn't matter who told you. The
Rabbi's words, the student's words—
whose words should we listen to? The
Rabbi's words are the Holy One, Blessed
is He; the Rabbi's words are the
Shulchan Aruch. So, if we are convinced
, what haven't I done? I am not—how
—I am not one of those people who
investigated this in the deepest way
possible. Did you read the responses of
those who oppose it? There are
responses from those who oppose it.
What are their reasons? And the
responses of those who support it.
Rabbi Wolfson, in his lessons and books
, brought these things up, and you read
it and you become convinced in a very,
very simple way. You are convinced; he
convinced me through study that this is
the right way. Yes, so...
>> Speaking of the subject, what is the
Rabbi's attitude toward disagreements?
We constantly see sometimes this Rabbi
says one thing, that Rabbi says another
. How does the Rabbi view disagreements
in Halakha? To respect every single
opinion; what's important is not to
disqualify a person just because they
don't think like me. We must respect
them. I also—I never stop reading the
books of the Rabbis who oppose
ascending to the Temple Mount. I
respect them. They are great men. Yes?
On this point, I think differently, and
I am allowed to. And not only am I
allowed, I am obligated to. Because, in
the end, we stand—every person stands
before the Holy One, Blessed is He. If
they tell us that we must listen to the
great ones, then what? Then we won't go
to the army. Yes? We won't listen.
Aren't the great leaders of Israel very
numerous? The Haredim tell us it is
forbidden to go up, that it is
forbidden to serve in the army. If we
listen to them, we won't have a land;
we won't have a country. Yes. Who will
protect us? Yes, no. This thing, a
person needs to have responsibility.
And also to the students, I tell them:
Listen, if what I tell you convinces
you, everything is fine. If it doesn't
convince you, you don't have to listen
to me. Yes, I didn't even organize an
orderly ascent for the Yeshiva to the
Temple Mount. Why? Because I respect
the Chief Rabbinate which forbids it,
so I do it personally, and any student
who wants to does so privately. I also
think that, all the Rebbeim in the
Yeshiva agree with me on this. And I
don't—I don't want to force anything,
or my opinions, on anyone. I explain my
opinions; whoever wants to accept them
will accept them, and whoever doesn't
want to accept them, I bless him just
like the one who does accept them.
>> Thank you very, very much for the
in-depth answer; in our hands, we have
the booklet.