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One. Call it easy, even flexible. First
of all, before we start the lesson, we
must mention what is good in Shabbat
Ramat Gan: that yesterday, thank God,
we merited to establish a new
settlement in the Land of Israel with
the power of Torah, and adjacent to it,
we are setting up a branch of the
Yeshiva, which will eventually become a
full-fledged Yeshiva. But we merited
yesterday, thank God, to establish it.
Congratulations to the People of Israel
, the Yeshiva in the Land of Israel,
thank God, may the place grow and
flourish with God's help. Geva.
>> It's amazing, this place is called Geva
Shomron, in northern Samaria, a place
where no Jewish foot had stepped for
decades, thank God, and there we rose
yesterday.
>> Yes, so thank God we really merited it,
there was great excitement, and the
Yeshiva is supposed to have at least
300 students, God willing, that is the
plan. Okay, let's begin, Rabbotai, we
are currently in the laws of Eruvin. We
finished the regular laws of Shabbat
and we are moving to a labor that is a
labor that is, I would say, a bit
complex. And why is it complex? Because
the labor of transferring from domain
to domain is called in the language of
the Sages a "poor labor." Why a poor
labor? Because usually, all 39
categories of labor on Shabbat are acts
of creation. A person takes something
that was broken and makes it into
something fixed. Excellent. One might
take a large thing and fix it, that's
all. That is creativity, but in the
labor of transferring from domain to
domain, from private to public, which
is a Torah prohibition. Transferring
from one to another involves no
creativity; anyone can take an object
from here and move it there—the
object remains exactly as it was, and
yet the Torah forbade it. And this is
one of the 39 labors, this is the 39th
labor. We learn this from the People of
Israel when they traveled in the desert
, and thus we learn that there is a
Torah prohibition in two ways: one,
transferring from domain to domain,
private to public and vice versa; and
moving four cubits in the public domain
—taking an object, uprooting it in
the public domain in one place, and
placing it in another place in the
public domain, he has created an act of
transfer within the same domain itself.
Now, regarding this definition, it
emerges from the Sages that there are
actually four domains on Shabbat. Let's
look please at the Gemara in Tractate
Shabbat, source three before you, page
121: The Gemara says, the Rabbis taught
: there are four domains for Shabbat—
the private domain, the public domain,
the karmelit, and the exempt place.
Just as an aside, although the Gemara
says four domains for Shabbat, the
private and public domains are relevant
not only in Shabbat matters, there are
other relevant matters; for example,
ritual purity and impurity, which apply
both in the private domain and the
public domain, there is doubt of
impurity in a private domain or in a
public domain. The public and private
domains are a general concept used in
many laws, and on Shabbat, the
consequence is as severe as the
prohibition of stoning—someone who
moves from here and places it there,
has transgressed a prohibition
punishable by stoning. So the Gemara
says: there are four domains on Shabbat
. What are the domains? The public
domain, the private domain, etc. The
Gemara asks, what constitutes a private
domain? A ditch that is 10 handbreadths
deep and four wide. 10 handbreadths in
depth or height. Its width is four
handbreadths, as is a fence that is ten
high. This is a complete private domain
(Reshut HaYachid). A private domain, in
principle, can be anywhere at all. A
private domain doesn't need to be a
tent, or some sacrifice they bring to
Givat Shmuel or something like that.
It's not necessary; even in a public
domain, there can be a private domain.
If I have an object that meets these
dimensions of 10 by 4, then it is a
private domain within the public domain
. Okay, that defines a private domain
perfectly.
>> Yes, handbreadths.
>> Which handbreadths? Everything is in
handbreadths, okay. In contrast, we
have the public domain (Reshut HaRabim)
. What is a public domain? And here, in
fact, a very large dispute arose among
the Rishonim regarding the definition
of a public domain, to the point that
the dispute rolled over into a dispute
among the authorities themselves, and
even into a dispute between Sephardim
and Ashkenazim, to the point that even
today, we don't actually know exactly
what we rule regarding the public
domain, and we don't know—sorry—if
the "form of the doorway"(tzurat
hapatach) we make around the mountains
is effective for Sephardim or not. So
here is where the whole story begins;
all the confusion today regarding
domains and Eruvin starts here. Which
public domain? Roads, Rashi says: a
highway that people walk on from city
to city, a street, and a large plaza—
that is a city square where all sorts
of markets gather to trade, and
thoroughfares that are open from side
to side—this is a complete public
domain. One may not move from a private
domain to a public domain, nor bring
from a public domain to a private
domain; and if one moved or brought it
unintentionally, he is liable for a sin
offering; if intentionally, he is
liable for excision (Karet) and stoning
—no less and no more. So the Gemara
says: for us to have a public domain,
there must be roads and plazas—large
places where the size of both must be a
distance of 16 cubits in width (16
cubits is more or less 9 meters), and
it must be a thoroughfare open from end
to end, and it is, of course, found in
the public domain, markets of one width
or another. So far, the simple language
of the Gemara, both and both.
>> That is to say, a very good question. A
person who violates a Shabbat
prohibition unintentionally is liable
for a sin offering. One who violates a
prohibition on Shabbat intentionally,
without witnesses and warning, is
liable for excision (Karet). When there
are witnesses and warning, he is liable
for stoning. Good that you asked, clear
, okay, that means you have an
operation, you can do it but just not
incur stoning, how? Without witnesses
and warning. Make sure things are done
nicely. But regarding the third domain,
the sea, the valley, the wilderness,
and so on, they are called a Carmelit.
A Carmelit is a domain that, in
practice, does not meet the criteria of
a public domain, but is also not a
private domain. It occupies a neutral
status. The law of a Carmelit is like
the law of a public domain by Torah law
, but it is only by Rabbinic decree.
Therefore, it is forbidden to carry
from a private domain to a Carmelit or
from a Carmelit to a private domain,
and likewise, it is forbidden to carry
four cubits within the Carmelit. The
last part is a "place of exemption"(
Mekom Patur). A place of exemption is
something like a private domain that
does not meet the criteria of a private
domain. So pay close attention: we have
two domains by Torah law, two by
Rabbinic law, and for each Torah domain
, there is an analogue: the analogue to
the public domain is the*Karmelit*, and
the analogue to the private domain is
the*Mekom Patur*(exempt place). So far,
the four domains on Shabbat. What is
what?
>> A good question, the*Nimna*: if
something does not meet the criteria of
a private domain and I have a*Mekom
Patur*in a public area, can I move
items from the private domain to a*
Karmelit*to a*Mekom Patur*, and from a*
Mekom Patur*back into the private
domain? Why? Because there is no act of
picking up and setting down in a*Mekom
Patur*. In the army, for example, when
we had a base—ah, all the soldiers
here in the army immediately wake up—
taking from the jeep into a post.
>> Beautiful. See, you have a jeep, the
jeep is a private domain, and you
transfer it into a post. We used to do
that a lot. We had a new artillery camp
in the Golan Heights, and we had to
move items from the room to the tent on
Shabbat. We made a*Mekom Patur*in the
middle of the*Karmelit*—we don't have
foxes there in the Golan like we do,
but—we would make a*Mekom Patur*and
move things from the private domain to
the*Mekom Patur*, from the*Mekom Patur*
to the private domain; once again, we
solved all the problems.
>> They do this in pairs too.
>> There are all kinds of other techniques
. We will learn all the techniques, God
willing. Ah, yes, it’s always better
to have two. Two are always better than
one for a change, excellent*Oruchot*. *
Oruchot Shabbat*brings the definitions
we stated here up to now, and
everything is completely simple and
clear. If that is the case, let’s
move to the*Mechaber*. The*Mechaber*in
source five, before that on page 123,
writes as follows: By Torah law, one is
only liable for carrying out and
bringing in, and transferring,
transferring from the private domain to
the public domain, or from the public
domain to the private domain. The Sages
forbade moving from a*Karmelit*to the
private domain and the public domain,
or from them to the*Karmelit*. By Torah
law, one is not liable for carrying
four cubits in the public domain; the
Sages forbade carrying four cubits in a
*Karmelit*, as I told you—a*Karmelit*
is an analogue to the public domain,
and in a*Karmelit*, they are not
permitted to give from one to the other
. So far, excellent. And the*Mechaber*
says in source six: It is forbidden to
carry an object less than four cubits,
even between the domains, and even in a
*Karmelit*. In a*Karmelit*, if there is
no*Eruv*, you are forbidden to carry an
object less than four cubits. So far,
the foundations of the laws of*Eruvin*
on Shabbat, beautiful from here.
However, we are now in a big problem:
how do we define what is a public
domain, what is a*Karmelit*? On this
point, the*Rishonim*had a very major
dispute, as I told you, it created
several different methods for how we
relate to our cities—the city of
Ramat Gan where we are, Tel Aviv, and
so on. What are the criteria within the
cities we have here now? HaAtzel Street
and other similar streets, can one say
that HaAtzel Street is a street? It has
this criterion, it is. It is
thoroughfare-like to a certain extent,
from Bnei Brak all the way to HaYarden
Street, Yarden, below, beautiful,
HaYarden Street, so it is ostensibly a
thoroughfare. Right, so ostensibly we
have a public domain here. We have two
criteria here. But then what? Here the
complete mess began. Please look at...
at...source eight, and which is a
public domain (reshut harabim), its
streets and main boulevards,
throughways that are open at both ends.
That is the public domain. In other
words, in the Gemara, there are only
two conditions: open at both ends and
sixteen amot wide. Is there nothing
else? Rashi (Rashi’s commentary,
source 10): Public domain means wide,
16 amot, a city. Where it mentions 60
ribo; suddenly Rashi brought a
criterion that does not appear in the
Gemara. The Gemara spoke of two
criteria: 16 amot size and open from
end to end. Rashi said no, there must
be one more condition: that 60 ribo
people pass through it every day. 60
ribo, how much is that? Rabbi Yosef:
600,000 people. And it has no wall, or
its public domain is connected, the
main gate is open, similar to the
banners of the desert. Excellent, so
Rashi brought an additional criterion
that does not appear in the Gemara. The
Rambam remained attached to the literal
text of the Gemara, saying: there is no
such thing as 60 ribo, what do you need
60 ribo for? It doesn’t appear in the
Gemara; he doesn't write it as a
criterion. Rambam, source 11: Until the
public domain, deserts, forests, flat
lands, roads open to them, provided it
was sixteen amot wide and had no roof
over it. The Rambam did not bring the
600,000 people. A dispute among the
Rishonim: Is 600,000 people a day a
condition or not a condition? The
practical implication: If I say it is
not a condition, then those two
criteria define a public domain. If I
say it is a condition, most places do
not have 600,000 people, so it stops
being a public domain and becomes
something else. The practical
implication is very simple: there is
the "tzurat hapatach" eruv that
everyone knows, right? There is an eruv
surrounding the city. Anyone traveling
on intercity roads sees columns on the
edge of the mountains with a wire
pulled over them. Those aren't electric
company utility poles; it is simply a "
tzurat hapatach" eruv. A "tzurat
hapatach" eruv can only help for a
karmelit. If I define it as a public
domain, the "tzurat hapatach" eruv
cannot help them. Period. Meaning, if I
go according to the Rambam's criterion,
I make a "tzurat hapatach" eruv, I
cannot rely on the "tzurat hapatach"
eruv. What can I rely on? I need the
surroundings of the city to have a wall
and a tower. There must be an actual
wall, ten handbreadths high, closed
from all sides. For us in Yad Binyamin,
the whole settlement is fenced with a
very high fence that is completely
sealed, even at the entrance, closed on
Shabbat. With that, ah, even Sephardim
among us can carry without issues. But
in large cities where you don't have
surroundings, you cannot build a wall
around the city, so the "tzurat
hapatach" cannot help, and here the
whole mess begins for the Sephardim,
and for the Ashkenazim too. Don’t
think you are completely exempt; you
will also have a bit of a problem. Look
at them.
>> If we rely on Rashi's words, we are
closed off.
>> If we rely...yes, you, but it doesn't
look like you can rely on Rashi's words
based on your color. Rashi wasn't your
color.
>> Rashi is Ashkenazi.
>> What, Rashi? No, Rashi wasn't Ashkenazi
.
>> So what is this, what is this in Bnei
Brak, all these fences on the sides?
>> In Bnei Brak, they also rely on the*
tzurat hapesach*(a symbolic doorway).
Bnei Brak residents are religious, yes,
but there are all sorts of projects
that attract people; they are religious
, so they also want a*tzurat hapesach*
for those who rely on it. Not everyone
—there are Sephardim there, too, only
Rabbi Mahfud and a few others; the
majority are completely Ashkenazi, what
—
>> 90%voted for Gimmel (UTJ) in the last
elections.
>> So, completely Ashkenazi, completely
Ashkenazi. Look, Rabbi Yisai, at the
debate, the*Beit Yosef* 's debate on
this point: what constitutes a public
domain (*reshut harabim*)? Streets,
marketplaces, and so on. He brings
Rashi's definition of*reshut harabim*,
and in the*Beit Yosef*, he skips to the
*Rosh*. The*Rosh*wrote like Rashi, he
wrote Rashi's words without
disagreement. The*Rosh*also brought
this condition, of 600,000 people,
without disagreement, implying that he
agrees with this, and so it seems from
what is written, and so on. Rabbi Yisai
skips a bit; he brings here many more*
Rishonim*who hold according to Rashi's
opinion. He cites the*Sefer Mitzvot
Gadol*, *Sefer Mitzvot Katan*, and so
wrote the*Rokeach*, and so wrote the*
Tosafot*, and as we said, and so on and
so forth. Please skip to the next page.
But the Rambam's opinion is not so, as
he did not mention this condition of
600,000 people. And the Rambam wrote—
actually, that is the opinion of the
Ramban and the Rashba, and the*Rosh*
also agreed with them, and also [it is
not] in the Gemara. The Rambam says,
there is no hint of this in the Gemara;
where did these*Rishonim*get this
criterion called the 600,000 people?
And so too in the*Hagahot Mordechai*on
Masechet Shabbat, and he also wrote
that this is not in the books regarding
the*reshut harabim*as a place where
600,000 pass through daily. And even
though Rashi explains it this way in
many places, if it exists, it is
impossible that it wouldn't have been
mentioned by the Sages. The*Beit Yosef*
says, Rashi uses it in several places,
this criterion, but excuse me, is there
a single time the Gemara mentions this
criterion? Not a single time does the
Gemara mention it. And the*Rosh*also
agreed in his responsa. Therefore,
because of this, look at the*Mechaber*(
Shulchan Aruch) in source 13, the*
Mechaber*says: What is a*reshut harabim
*? Streets, marketplaces, thoroughfares
—they are not roofed, they have no
wall, and even if they have a wall, if
they are open from gate to gate, it is
a*reshut harabim*. Period. Is there a
criterion of 600,000 people? Rabbi
Yisrael Yisai: No. And there are those
who say that as long as 600,000 do not
pass through it daily, it is not a*
reshut harabim*. We have a great rule
in our hands regarding the words of the
*Mechaber*: when there is an anonymous
ruling (*stam*) and an "others say"(*
yesh omrim*), what is the law? Rabbi
Yisai: The*stam*(the anonymous ruling)
is the law. This means that the*
Mechaber*rules according to the
Rambam's system, that any place which
has two conditions is considered a*
reshut harabim*for all matters.
Therefore, for Sephardim, in principle,
according to the*Mechaber*, it is
impossible to rely on the*tzurat
hapesach*, on an*eruv*of*tzurat
hapesach*. Period. This means that
Sephardim are considered as if they
live in a city without an*eruv*, and
they are forbidden to carry on Shabbat
—the*tallit*, or if they take
handkerchiefs or tissues in their hands
. But do Sephardim have chains? No,
what, chains specifically? Yes, yes.
>> Chain.
>> The Rabbi found where to live.
>> What?
>> Yes, yes, based on this I choose the
place. You cannot live wherever you
want; you need to have a place where
you can carry without problems.
>> But Rabbi, is there no point where
someone explains where Rashi brought
this from? After all, it is not from
Rashi.
>> Yes, Rashi, I will tell you, excellent,
yes, excellent, and no, there is no
version, I do not know, it is similar
to the banners in the wilderness. In
the banners of the wilderness, when
they went from place to place, there
were 600,000 people. Rashi says it is
like this. This is how a place should
look. 600,000 people walking from end
to end, a thoroughfare. That is the
source for Rashi's words. Okay? Look at
the Aruch HaShulchan and the Shulchan
Aruch HaRav, source 14. And based on
their words, the custom of the
countries spread to be lenient and say
that we do not have a complete public
domain now. And the Shulchan Aruch
HaRav says: Since according to the
Mechaber it is in the name of "some say
," meaning Rashi and the Rosh, they
brought the condition of 600,000 people
; we do not have 600,000 people in our
cities today, therefore there is no
problem carrying today based on a "
Tzurat HaPetach"(a symbolic doorway).
That is what the Shulchan Aruch HaRav
says. And the Mishnah Berurah says (
source 15): And regarding the Halacha,
from the opinion of the Mechaber who
wrote this opinion only in the name of
"some say," it implies that the Halacha
does not follow it. Therefore, and in
any case, we do not have the power to
protest those who rely on this opinion,
as this opinion is not a lone opinion,
as I wrote in the Biur Halacha, and so
you should know many Acharonim...and I
also want to explain what the Mishnah
Berurah says here...The Mishnah Berurah
says: It is true, the Mechaber
seemingly ruled anonymously, and
therefore if there are not 600,000 it
does not interest us at all, it turns
into...but the Biur Halacha says–
which is the Chafetz Chaim himself–he
says: I did a check, how many Rishonim
say the condition of 600,000 is needed,
and how many do not need the condition
of 600,000. We find that the majority
of the Rishonim say the condition of
600,000 is needed. Simply, the weight
...the weight of the Rishonim. We put
the Rishonim on one scale, we put the
Rishonim on the other scale; most
Rishonim say 600,000 is needed. If so,
says the Mishnah Berurah in the Biur
Halacha, it turns out that most
Rishonim–if this is their condition,
if that condition is not met–it is
not a public domain, but what is it? It
turns into...what? A Karmelit. Which
means that for this, a Tzurat HaPetach
is also effective. Therefore, the Biur
Halacha says: Even the Sephardim who
want to be lenient like the opinion of
the Rishonim, like Rashi and the Rosh,
they have someone to rely on. So also
wrote Rabbi Ovadia Yosef. Rabbi Ovadia
Yosef has a method, a method throughout
his entire rulings; he says: If the
Beit Yosef, the Mechaber, had seen the
majority of the opinions of the
Rishonim, he would have ruled like them
. He did not have all the Rishonim that
we can see today, like for instance the
Meiri, who he does not bring–we see
the Meiri and other such Rishonim–had
the Mechaber seen all these opinions,
he would have ruled according to them.
Therefore, you will see in the source
provided before you, source 16: Even
though today they have established an
Eruv in most places in Israel, an Eruv
of "Tzurat HaPetach"(form of a doorway)
, it is still appropriate and correct
to be concerned from the outset for the
Sephardic opinions that hold that our
public domain today is a public domain
by Torah law. Pay attention to the
wording: it is appropriate to be
concerned from the outset, and for this
, the Eruv will not help, so it is
appropriate for any G-d-fearing person
not to carry at all and not to rely on
the...but this is only appropriate,
even for Sephardim. Because a Sephardi
who wants to rely on the "Tzurat
HaPetach"–he has someone to rely on,
and most of us Sephardim, most people
in Israel I think, rely on them. And
within the "Tzurat HaPetach," there are
completely righteous people who do not
carry, and so on. By the way, Rabbi
Ariel shlita said to Ashkenazim as well
: If you don't need to carry, don't
carry, be concerned for these opinions
as well. Meaning, we find that
everything here has become a complete
mess. But what then? What do Sephardim
really rely on in the end? There is...I
must tell you a story, a story about "
Tzurat HaPetach" in the army. Today
there is a "Tzurat HaPetach" kit, an
Eruv kit. You come to the...you ask
today...the army has progressed
everything, by the way, in the
Rabbinate, it is very sophisticated.
Most meat is "Glatt" meat, all that. I
remember that when we used to enlist
for reserve duty...a month. Before that
, they would call the Rav, we would say
: Listen, five of us guys want Glatt
meat, he says: No problem, I'll order
some for you. The whole reserve service
you wait for Glatt meat–there isn't
any, it didn't arrive. It didn't arrive
. A month after the reserves, you get a
call: The meat has arrived, you can
come and take it. The same thing, so
today it's not like that anymore. Today
, thank God, the Military Rabbinate has
made a revolution, almost all meat in
the army is Glatt because of the
competition that exists. That is
excellent. Same thing for the Eruv.
Would you make an Eruv? Today you have
an Eruv kit, you ask the military rabbi
for an Eruv kit. It's like a Lulav kit
or something, you open it like a Lulav,
take out the poles, take out the
strings, click, tie them up, easy-peasy
. Back then there was no such thing. I
remember an incident I had: We were in
reserves in Gaza, Tel Sultan, Rafah–
may it be remembered for good (G-d
willing, it will return to us). We were
in Israeli Rafah, opposite Egyptian
Rafah, we had a hill there–Tel Sultan
. It was a hill, literally Israel's
missile line. On Erev Shabbat there was
...it's called an "enclosed hill," so I
relied on it. But at the entrance, I
needed to make a "Tzurat HaPetach." I
put up two poles, I started climbing
them to put a string over them. How do
you make a "Tzurat HaPetach"? A cane
here and a cane here and a cane on top
of them, there always needs to be
something above. I'm climbing, and
within minutes, jeeps of commanders
arrive, each jeep with a longer antenna
, they screech to a halt, get out: What
are you doing? I'm making an Eruv, a "
Tzurat HaPetach." Now they don't
understand, what, what are we talking
about? Eruv, a "doorway" shape? What is
this, Chinese to them? They said: "
Listen, the Egyptian embassy called,
the peace treaty between Israel and
Egypt has been broken because a soldier
placed cameras up there." Guys, enough,
not peace, I know what kind of peace?
How would I know? I'm just doing a
doorway shape! In short, they wouldn't
let me put up the wire, it's a
violation of the peace treaty between
Israel and Egypt. That, that was back
then. Well then, look at the Or LeZion,
with this we will finish today's lesson
. The Or LeZion, source 21, writes this
for Sephardim—the Or LeZion, Rabbi
Ben Zion Abba Shaul, of blessed memory,
one of the greatest Sephardic sages of
our generation: one may be lenient and
carry in times of need in towns where
they make an eruv using a doorway shape
. We have three doubts here, not just
one, a doubt within a doubt, a doubt
within a doubt within a doubt. How? One
doubt: the Rashba and his colleagues,
if there aren't 600,000, then the
dispute among the Rishonim is one doubt
. And even if you were to say that it
is considered a public domain, the Rosh
and the Ran and their colleagues say a
doorway shape works even in a public
domain, there are Rishonim who say a
doorway shape can...ah, so it could be
that the Halacha follows them. And if
you were to say that it doesn't work,
well, it is proven from the Rambam and
the Ravad that by Torah law at least,
the standing part is greater than the
broken part, and not just a doorway
shape, but a gap larger than 10 [cubits
], and according to the Biur Halacha,
he found that all our streets are
blocked off and considered a private
domain, according to the Chazon Ish it
may be that all our streets are
actually a private domain and not a
public domain. Rabbi Ben Zion Abba
Shaul says: a doubt within a doubt
within a doubt, like whom the Halacha
truly is, for Sephardim too, one can be
lenient and rely on the doorway shape.
Why? Because if they are carrying, go
see what the public does, may you merit
many years of goodness. May it be
accepted. Amen.