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בענין אם עלו לא ירדו ולחמו של מזבח

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The third ara. And this is the last final but the most important ara and something we've spoken about already. In the course of Masochist Vachon. Let me read it in English. What does that mean? The Masochist Vachon the apostle. Even the word just grammatically speaking is a little tricky. What does this mean? So I think it's good to just go through this for a minute. And that is in the Masochist Vachon you see these two levels. There's Masochist Vachon. Stating that Ulo's second big memory today's daf. I will Masochist Vachon over there the is. That it's it's going to be yellow. There's two levels in the world of Masochist Vachon. There's one level where the thing touches the Masochist Vachon. When it's Masochist Vachon now already we ratchet it up a whole another level. Now it's now it's so too it's going to be it's going to go in the reverse. Now it's going to be a year to year. That means there's two levels over here. There's the level of and That's when it's just calling a gay of a Masochist Vachon. And then there's where it's Masochist Vachon where it's even more than that. Now it's not only going to be a Masochist Vachon. Now it's going to be a Masochist Vachon as well. If you take a look at Rashi on the base. Called as long as it makes a little bit of contact then cuz at that point it becomes Masochist Vachon. It's before that the is that when it's at that point it becomes not so much because of that. And it sounds like the reason it's now going to be not only in is because when becomes not so much because of that. Now it has a only from also has a from the yellow which would imply then if the work through this whole process that where it only touches the back and it wasn't not so much because of that. At that point it's not yet not so much because of that. At that point all it is is has some sort of but not so much because of that. This is when it becomes not so much because of that which happens when it's not so much because of that in the fire. At that point not only is it it's going to be yellow as well. When it only touches the so there the is not enough for a because it's not not so much because of that yet. It's going to be that we spoke that's the first of the three hours but the bottom line is there's two levels. There's the yellow level and then there's the yellow level. They're both in all the yellow. Sometimes you can put it back on sometimes not. When it's not so much because of that then you put it back on when it's not not. That's possible right? I don't think we said anything great we're just learning the the a little bit with a Rashi that once it's not so much because of that not so much because of that and at that point it's not only going to be it's going to be yellow as well. One other and that is we spoke at this about that and this is how much the we're learning right now. He said What's the gather of all this that when it's not so much because of that it's not so much because of that. Rebbe Chaim put stuff out. One side Rebbe Chaim had was that the get there is that once it's mushlam menor or the psul goes away. And being that the psul goes away, so now you can go l'chatchila, you can put it on the mizbeach cuz you change them all the year to kach mi'yad to ya'av, right? Because the mushlam menor, the fire of the mizbeach, the eish of the mizbeach has an ability to go ahead and mamish make make psulim completely go away. Oh, yesh limah said Rebbe Chaim, the get there of mushlam menor where the din is going to be a mi'yad to ya'av is not because the fire of the mizbeach makes the psul go away. The psul is still there. Natla mishlam mizbeach means mid the psul, with all your chesronos, with all the meshugasim, you still have a din to go on the mizbeach. That's the eitzah. The eitzah is that you become lach mishlam mizbeach is a new parsha that's known as aktaras psulim, said Rebbe Chaim. It's klavi detag that you have the tzeita din. How do you know you have the tzeita din? Because the Gemara had a manda d'masni seifa. Rebbe Chanina mi Sura said that Ula's Halacha was said not regarding the mishna that we learned already, but the mishna that we're going to learn. The mishna that said "Hasamos gidim v'atzamos v'eifaim", the Halacha is that if it's pure shul, ordinarily you don't put it on the mizbeach, but if it was mushlam menor, then yeah. Said Rebbe Chaim, "Gidim v'atzamos have no psul. There's nothing pasul about it that says you can't go ahead and be makdir it." What is the metzius of gidim v'atzamos? They're chaser in that they don't have a din haktara. There's no psul haktara, they just don't have a din haktara. They don't have a din haktara. And I feel like it's m'vuar, once it's mushlam menor, at that point natla mishlam mizbeach is a din haktara. Said Rebbe Chaim, "It's muchrach from here that mushlam menor has an ability not just to remove chesronos, but to actually give you a din haktara." Meaning, what's the haktara of gidim v'atzamos? It doesn't make any sense. Bishvil me im murim psulim, the chesron of the mirror is not total. Not us, not their apostles. You'll tell me maybe it removes it. But about Thomas don't have a factor. So what's this been now? Put it on the back. Must be one something is in the fire of the in the clutches of the back. Now it gets it in hot water. That's when the meat and now there's a thing to go ahead and be mad. I'll bring you another riot. There's a thing of There's a thing of luck in the back. There's a thing of luck in the back What's the problem with the Why can't you put them on the back? Cuz it's a rigger. How would luck in the back give you a that you lack? There's a thing of it's the It's long. Okay, so this removes the It removes long. But said when it comes to it's not that I have something I'm not supposed to have. I'm lacking something that I need. How's luck If luck in the back is like a ball? Right? Think about it. That's what it sounds like. It's a Muslim and it's like a ball. It's like some super duper hot ball. Okay, so you can be mad with me from today till tomorrow. If you mad with something glass 100 times over, it's not going to become expensive China. Right? It's not going to turn into gold or silver. Right? It don't work that way. Is a lot of luck in the back? So if I'm going in and I'm being mad with something that was felt in the rigger How's that going to give me a rigger? So I'm saying it's from there. That together there is for sure a thing when it comes to luck in the back that it's not simply removing them. It's giving them a thing. So I'm saying it's from the Thomas and the fire and from this back down and from other It's more This is the way it works. This is That's the game. Them came The who I did for who I time the whole of them hold them Cuz it gets a total factor that it can talk about over there. Where it becomes a lot of luck in the back. But I'll go put him in the board of kind of my chef that he saw the kind of my chef the side that once it's motion and we're at that point it becomes blackness of his back. So he's saying marriage, it literally becomes something that's part of the miss back which is my kind of a new part of Zachariah. Right, explain it one more time in a different because this is very critical. Usually when you talk about the part of a carbon, so together of the part of a carbon is I have a carbon after do things with the carbon. I have to do a kind of with the down and she tried with the down. I have to do a kind of with the bus. I have to do a kind of with the a moment. There's a regular part of Zachariah. What's the kind of the part of Zachariah? I brought this carbon and one of the mix with the part of this carbon is to go ahead and do a kind of with certain parts of this carbon. Blackness of his back is a kind of Zachariah that's coming from a whole different place. It's a different kind of Zachariah. It's a different part of Zachariah. It's a different kind of Zachariah of Zachariah. It's not oh, I brought a carbon and part of the carbon is a moment and moment I have to go ahead now and I have to be marked to those moments on the miss back. It's that I have something that's blackness of his back. The fire already, you know, started eating it. The blackness of the miss back, right, the a crumb fell out of the mouth of the miss back. Come here you have to go ahead and you have to take and you have to put it back on. The kind of the part of Zachariah is not to have to bring the kind of moment of Zachariah. Oh, it's feeling all the miss Zachariah. No, the kind of this is blackness of his back. The kind of Zachariah is a kind of Zachariah that was a kind of Zachariah that was back. Now when it comes to the kind of Zachariah it's only to fix here. When it comes to blackness of his back it's true even from the bottom and that's that's all the Zachariah. But that's that's the Zachariah. That's what blackness of his back is. He said more than this. He said more than this. What's miss back McCarty? Miss back McCarty is one step before blackness of his back. The Zachariah of miss back McCarty is like Rashi says, "Kind of Zachariah miss back Leo says blackness of mine." When something personal touches the mizbeach, it gets a din haktara. What's this din haktara? Not the din haktara from a regular parsha of haktara because it's pasul. You can't be mekayem that haktara with something that's pasul. Just like you can't do a zrika with a davar pasul, you can't do haktara with a davar pasul either. But it gets a din to make it lachmei shulchan mizbeach. Now it's not chali yet the haktara of lachmei shulchan mizbeach because it's first going to be lachmei shulchan mizbeach when it goes into the fire. But it has the kedusha where now there's an obligation to go ahead and make it lachmei shulchan mizbeach. Lachmei shulchan mizbeach it will be when it's in the fire. And once it's in the fire, now it's going to have that toras haktara. When it touches the mizbeach, it gets a din to become lachmei shulchan mizbeach. So mizbeach mekadesh the din of korban olah gam mizbeach yiktash is very much talking to Ulla's halacha of mushlin or. In fact, you know what came first? It's almost like mushlin or came first. Being that there's a mussig of when it's mushlin or it's not so lachmei shulchan mizbeach, which if Chaim learned up there's a new parsha of haktara called lachmei shulchan mizbeach dig haktara, it's for that reason now there's a parsha of korban olah gam mizbeach yiktash of kimcha d'avona yairdu which states that when the davar pasul goes on the mizbeach, now it has a din to become lachmei shulchan mizbeach. So a mizbeach mekadesh is on some level a din haktara. Right? It's not just leave it there, said the Brisker Rav. It's also not now I can go ahead and be mekayem the regular toras haktara. No way in the world you're not going to be able to do that. What it is is it's a new parshas haktara. New parshas haktara. Who stated that I have parshas haktara? That's Ulla's halacha of lachmei shulchan mizbeach. That parshas haktara by the way is is a much more upgraded parshas haktara. That is not only a din of am al yairdu, that's a din of am afelu am yairdu yalo. Right? That's mamasha toras haktara. the misbech is mikadesh, it gets a din to go ahead and be mikayem the lachmis of misbech the hakdora. So, when the misbech touches the double pasul, it gets a din hakdora. What's the din hakdora? Make it lachmis of misbech. It's not lachmis of misbech yet. It's going to become lachmis of misbech when it goes in the fire. How do I know it's not lachmis of misbech yet? Because when it's going to be lachmis of misbech, it's going to be a merudalo. And now it's kashash merudalo. So, it's not yalo yet, but it got a din hakdora. To a din hakdora to do what? Yena hakdora to lachmis of misbech. Which of Chaim was mechadesh in sefer is a new parshas hakdora. What was his raya? His raya was from gidin at somes. His raya was from nishpach domam. And he said if that's the case, in arelo chairo parshas to who I didn't know I done the That's always the way it works. There's a new I know there's a new parshas hakdora. The site of a merudalo is now it gets a din to go ahead and do that hakdora. Is there ever a mitzius where I'm going to have a din to do the hakdora of lachmis of misbech? The answer is yes. Where is it? Misbech mikadesh. That's what it is. So, misbech mikadesh is not just leave it there. That's for sure not what it is. It's also not I can go ahead and do the regular of the hikter. No way. How can you be makta with a double pasul? No retzui that's coming from this hakdora. I value not going to be able to do that. What it is is a din hakdora. Not just leave it there, but not the regular din hakdora. It's the hakdora mechudeshes. What's that hakdora mechudeshes called? It's called lachmis of misbech. When does it become lachmis of misbech? When it's mashal ben or. Now it's not lachmai. Now it gets a din to become lachmai, which is just another way of saying a din to do this hakdora psula. That's Rashi's loshon. A filu d'double pasul sh'al d'misbech. Cut kishra misbech liyosais lachmai. It didn't become lachmai, but the chefts of the kidesh is go make a lachmai. That's what it is. Go do a lachman de gach ta. Don't let's just leave it there. Go ahead and do a lachman de gach ta. The one who are that has to be jumping through the zoom right now. This is one hour. And that is that we're saying that the mahaloch of ham is back with kaddish works is is it's mikadish it. So it you should have a din hak torah to go ahead and do a lachman de gach torah. It's not lachman. It's first going to become lachman where? It's first going to become lachman when you actually have muscle then or. But right now, right now, it has a din to become lachman. The how is this din with Ula's memra? Amar Ula in column this is double natsu lachman It certainly sounds like from Ula. As soon as they move them going to the back becomes lachman. You don't have to wait until it's muscle then or in order to become lachman. It becomes lachman right then and there. That was discussing with them this morning. Said and should they say that a barrel kasha to the brisker off and this is has an ensuing a tremendous tumble with regards to this kasha. The kasha is a good kasha. The Ula seemed to say natsu lachman yesh the barrel kasha to my knowledge this is definitely an appropriate kasha. But at the end of the day the lachman doesn't change. The lachman is that the way kaddish works is it's not just a din but it's a mikhaia not the regular but there it's a mikhaia of this new parish and again now that we went through the three hours let's have a rash. I'm mikaddish so I feel possible I feel possible and certainly kasha. Sounds like there's a kasha even by kasha. Why would that be a cuz maybe it's only where I won't be able to put it back up. But if I could put it back up maybe not. So even possible call in a game but for sure it's It's to be true for kasha. And it's more foolish that way in Hilchos Lamed Kufshin Perek Lamed Kuf Lamed the way the Mishnah Berurah was Medayek. The Rambam said it's so clear that it's true even when it comes to Kuf. The problem is the Rashba come on Perek Lamed Kuf seems to say not that way. And the way the Mishnah Berurah learned the Parsha knew you have to be Matir Kuf maybe I feel double possible not that there's a din of Lo Yair Do. But I feel double possible has a a Pirush Aktor. By the way I feel double possible. Shalem Mizbeach Kitzur Hamizbeach Hamizbeach is Mekadesh it. The Yosis Lachmoi. Not Mekadesh it just leave it there. And not Mekadesh it that now I could do the regular Aktor. The Yosis Lachmoi. I should be able to do the Lachmoi the Gaktor. What's Lachmoi? See Rashi on Perek Lamed Beis regarding the other member of Ulla. The Imrei Noam but where is in the Galei Meisa the Kedusha at the end of the day Mizbeach Mekadesh in the Galei one thing and one thing only. It's Negiah of Imrei Noam. Or because of Lo Yair Do Kachem Yair Do Lo Yair Do. And here too we have the grace of Hakira. Is the reason because it only has the Kedusha as long as it's on the Mizbeach. Once it comes off the Mizbeach it loses the Kedusha. So maybe it doesn't pass anymore Yair Do Yalla. Or could be the Kedusha comes comes again to Mizbeach that you're always going to have the Kedusha. It's just that the din of the Kedusha the Pirush the Halacha Lemaiseh that comes from this Kedusha is only Negiah of Lo Yair Do. It's not Negiah or in Yair Do Yalla. Either way we just learned one Rashi. One Rashi the very first Rashi of Perek Mizbeach Mekadesh.