החקירה הידוע בענין חצי שיעור אסור מן התורה וחזי לאצטרופי

As it relates to rate, there's so many directions that you can go with a doaf like this, but I think it's good idea to focus on the last last part of the doaf, one of the lighter portions of the daf, which really ties in to some of the gamoras and some of the raid that we saw earlier this week. And that is the primagim in his declares the following question. He said, "What would be if somebody would cook a half a Zas of B of not a full Zas of B of a half a Zas of B of Would he violate the or would he not?" In other words, it's we just learned it a minute ago that there's a sheer kaz as it relates to the is of ray whether you need a kaz or anakaz of or whether are going to be that is a shar and the only time one would get malus for violating the would be if he went and he cooked the shear of but we also know that and we pass like which means that all the that you find of etc. It's only with regards to the punishment with regards to the with regards to the malus but as it relates to the iser is if that's the case the prim would there be with regards to the or would there not be with regards to the at first glance you would say why not ifra and this is a general rule that you find in so why would you think that the isser would be any different says I'm going to tell you why because if you take a look at the gives two reasons why is the first is a it says in the thou shalt not eat but doesn't just say thou shalt not eat it says thou shalt not eat all of the says you're not let it eat that word is coming to be something it's coming to be but the gives another reason why the garra says that being that a half a is it's for that reason it's for that reason that is what does it mean it's so we know that whenever the says you're not let it doesn't mean that you can't only eat it or can't only not eat it but if you would eat a little bit of and Then you would go ahead and you would eat another little bit of a share. those two within that short time frame would be it's and it's for that reason here's the lus even when I only eat half the share even though I didn't eat the other half to bear is it's already going to be in other words the gave two reasons why is and the is it says not just and the is that It's says the primagim if that's the case I think there's mock to say that as it relates to the there would not be a problem of because being that one of the reasons that the gave and both are needed is in if somebody would cook a bus of and then five minutes later he would cook another of a bus of a would they be mitarif says Why would they bear when it comes to there's a special that says tot but why in the world should a bish that's not a bishial bear with another bishop that's not a bishial 0 plus 0 is zero each one is a and how could two make one complete and being that says the primary you don't have so could be you wouldn't have of says I'm not sure what's the says that is because maybe the gam doesn't mean because after I eat a half a shir I always have the option of eating another half a and then the two will be that they were of and it's for that reason even that first half is already awesome it could be the of is that when I ate the half a I could have eaten more at that time being that all I was in was in the amount I did everything I needed to do. It's just that she I COULD HAVE ALWAYS added I could have tacked on a little bit more. I could have taken another bite out of the sandwich or a bigger bite out of the sandwich. get what means not that after I do the shir I could do another half a share but what it means is that when I did the half a share I didn't have to do a half a share I could have done more and maybe that's why if that's the case by bishop I didn't have to cook a half a share I could have cooked an entire share and being that had I cooked an entire share it would have been aer so maybe when I cook it's also going to be a in other words is claring what is the lumbness of is the lumbness of that after I eat the half a shear I can eat another half a shear Or is the lumbness of that when I ate the halfir I could have eaten more. If it's after I eat, I could always eat another because it's going to be by you don't have a way to bear of two half of it's that I could have eaten more by as well. could have cooked more and if that's the case maybe I would have the this is the suffic of the prim in his the truth is the primod in another place is this identical sh and [snorts] this isn't this is in the primod if somebody would eat a gdan would there be or would there not be again it's probably not going to But would there be or not? What did it says? We learned to earlier this week with the Gmorra says that asked what would be if somebody took Abra and he cracked it in half and he ate each half individually. Would we say that he would get Malus now assuming the two halves made a a hole? That's a share. Or would we say that is not what's the says it's because really this whole idea that is very big the fact that there's a concept of if that's the case is Mim to say that the only time you say the of is when it comes to a regular but the of ish why is it aish because is not just the it's being that it's and maybe there's no and that was if somebody would eat but he did it in where it was do you say or do you say it's a very say if somebody would eat two half a They would not bear. Why wouldn't they bear again? Because it's a says the prim that that's just like is also it's the biggest in the world because it's an says and you find that it's if that's the case it's to me in math that just like and he ate them in two shots. It wouldn't be when it comes to it's going to be the same. If that's the case, says the prim here's my is not it's totally in how you understand the if means that after I eat a half a she could always eat another half a she and it's going to be mitarif. Well, when it comes to it can't be mitarif. Why not? Because that's me by and what said by Dr. to me would apply to as well. So if the two can't bear if you don't have the but if it doesn't mean that after I eat a half a I could always bear with another half a means that I could have eaten more if I could have eaten more. Well, if that's the case, when it comes to also could have eaten more, you could always have eaten more. And if that's what means then would be in other words whether this when it comes to is the same exact shag in whether this as it relates to the it all boils down how you understand The infra explains this is because it's means that after I ate my half a shir I could eat another half a year which would retroactively mean that what I ate now was really a aer and that's why I view it today even without eating the other half a as if it's well if that's the case I don't think that's true by and I don't think that's true when it comes If means not after I eat a half a share, I could eat another half a share, but I could have eaten a full share when I only ate the half a share. Well, that's true for as well. You could have cooked the full share. And that's true for you could have eaten the entire share. And if that's the case, you would have by and you would have when it comes to the ofl by the lav of by the lav of gdanosha. So he brings the second primagod that we mentioned the primagum sim and he says that even though the primagodam had a suffic but the shagasar a contemporary of the primag not one of the great 18th century he in simmons palef took on one side very very clearly the shagasar declares whether this by the love of bal this is like a classic shabasic portion of but declares whether this when it comes to it's part to me no he says you know why because why does mean that if I have a half and then I tack on another half press they're going to bear says if somebody would have a half shear often it afterwards he would have another half and they both happened within a certain time frame WOULD THEY BEAR NO WAY IT'S 0 plus 0 equals z the only time you find is when it comes to it's in this but you're not going to have it to ME BY SAY THERE'S no it's totally how you learn It's totally in other words means that after I do a half a share I could bear if another half a share then I agree but means not that now I could bear but I could have beenar I could have done more I also could have done more the what does the mean when it says that after I do half I could always add on another half if that's the case you see Epic boy in his and that is [snorts] okay this is all raid we've spoken about over the years and that is says if somebody eats a kho of pes Thou shalt not eat somebody. Even though you're not going to be punished, there's no there's no carbon. All you eat, but at the same time, it's and you're going to be you're going to get makas. The Rambam brings up Pik, a special Pik to teach us that if somebody would go and somebody would eat, oft you get mus you know special for that says it a bunch of times but there's a sh the is a what if you eat less than a culture it's also awesome because it says I quote is and if that's the case WHY DO I NEED A special I have no I can't for the life of me understand the ra needed a pull out a pic to teach me that if somebody eats it's of course it's user we pass now let's explain the c a little better would be getus a real oh that's aes because but there's no English. But the Ram says clearly SAY ONLY SEE ANYWAYS NOT BEING PUNISHED REALLY. So if you're not being punished anyways it's a regular answer REGULAR ANSWER WHY DO I NEED a separate and they both said I'm going to tell you maybe why the ra needed a what would be if somebody would eat a half of so this guy made it through the whole pes but he couldn't control himself at the last second at as the curtain in his at the last second he says you know something I'm going to [laughter] let me quickly and he goes ahead and he eats a half a would he be over or would he not be over he wouldn't be you know why because why is because it's that's why it's because it's I could always eat another HALF A SHARE THIS GUY can't eat another half a share you You KNOW WHY? CUZ TOO LATE. BECAUSE THE THE MINUTE YOU'RE READY TO HAVE ANOTHER HAT PIZZA ALREADY at that point, IT'S GOING TO BE SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE ZAM. Even that guy is going to be you know what says and there's a new answer for someone THAT NEEDS A EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T HAVE the but what do you see from the like they both means it HAS TO BE NOT I COULD HAVE eaten more during the time that I had because if that was the case every time that you eat even at the last second before I could have just taken a bigger bite I could have just taken a little BIT MORE THE TER is it means I need to physically bear and I have no time to go ahead and bear. In other words, what the prim was about with regards to and with regards to we have from the regarding the and from with regards to the jumping all over the place. A real smogus board of but this is like a realmus board right. So you have over here this grace of grace was had to learn the in what is it that after I ate a half I could have eaten another half a or when I ate the half I could have technically gone ahead and ate more wasn't sure and that's why he had a suffic whether you say as it relates to whether you say with regards to the held for it means they have to bear and he that's why there's when it comes to and as well and they need a special to tell me that when it comes the he did it at the last second of I just want to end with one last a beautiful and that is the Rambam in the beginning of it's the first if somebody goes ahead and he steals or more he's over the stating that even though that's true but you're not let steal even So the is that when it comes to you can't steal from somebody even a [snorts] says also in even though the is talking about and says the same exact entire that's in if you take a look at the in the beginning of take a look at the on that says quote it's referring to it's 57a and by the way this whole idea that you'd be for oh it's like it's true for right we discussed it in the context of so many there's no reason it shouldn't be true with regards to as well says 57a A you hear the dick. Do this one more time. 57A 57A leaves out the second part. The says that but in the Ram doesn't say that. He just brings the gar brings them both places here. He's mas and over there he's not mas he's mia on this beautiful subtle dick such a subtle dick but why did the ra invoke the but he didn't invoke these are identical the rama made a beloin to the But here he added the one LINE and did not add that line says he says why is it that is awesome. So he brings from the and our list is the and that it's based on the fact that meaning after you do the half a you could always go ahead and do another half a share says I want to ask you a question if somebody would steal from somebody and then he would go and he would steal from that person another pasuta would the two mishavas be mitarif or would they not be mitarif says says, "Here's my my is they won't bear." You know why? Because the says in that very same it says it elsewhere as well that a person is if somebody takes from him and being that is so it's yours. You don't have to give it to me anymore. So once I'm you you don't owe it to me. I later you stole another half. Whatever that's uh that's that's another half that I'm maybe at some point they'll stop being but once I'm right if you chip away then at some point I'll get the memo but the bottom line is this person is if this doesn't pass what's the difference between a and a gland right we know the gland doesn't pay kful the guy who pays kul what's the difference the gazel looks you between the eyes and he takes it. The ganv goes in a cunning way. He goes in a discreet way. When someone is a gland, you know he's a golin. When someone is a g, you don't necessarily know that he's avo I'm wondering you think this has something to do with can't be. You know why? Because the guy knows you stole and we have an implied that he was once HE'S NOT IF HE WOULD steal another half a as a result this can't have nothing to do with anything to do with and it's for that reason it's this must be just a separate but in gene WITH THE DOESN'T know that it was taken away from him he doesn't know to be he doesn't KNOW TO BE AH if he would know about it he it would be what's the answer to that. We passing like nothing for now, right? But that doesn't think we touched on enough big sluggies in this. But here's the point being doesn't know about it. SO HE DOESN'T KNOW TO BE IF HE DOESN'T KNOW TO BE if it's going to work with him could be that's this in this such subtle you know the talk about teaching us in such a subtle way in where there's a there's no If there's no there can't be inv doesn't know to be there is if it's over there you're going to have it but this says is only true if you learn like you learn like you learn like that the way works is that it physically requires you to be able to do another act for it to bear. But if the way works is I could have so I could have stolen enough where there wouldn't be and you would have but like he held like he held like means that it physically has to be and if that's the case that's the why invoked and in he did not invoke Just to really come full circle and that is that we said that they said there to answer who's why did the need to teach me and the what would be in why the Mishna wouldn't have answered the [clears throat] way and the answered is because maybe the Mishna held that the way works is not that it could be mitarif it later. It's that I could have done more. So what was the terce? Terce was that what would be a case where I eat it by where there's no time anymore for it to bear. That's all true. If I needed to p to bear but JUST MEANS I COULD have earlier made I could have had more then that is not going to be in other words the maybe maybe is a from the fact that he didn't say what said that he must have held like the other doesn't mean that but means that I could have done more all I was missing was in if that's the case it's really a between Kes Mishna and the Magged Mishna from Pesak Frank's in the magna and gaz you see that he held like the shag and you see held like the Yehuda and means that after I do a half I have to be able to do another half for it to go and bear and that's true by it's not true by there's always going to be whereas the Mishna from the fact that he plighted on the he an answer like answer doesn't require me to the fact that oh I'm lacking that enough is going to be in other words the god of exactly how works his bishop whether this with regards his could be really between the maggot mishna and the mishna the bottom line is again this very So in terms of how to understand we discussed it in the context of bishop. At first glance, this would seem to be a huge a huge mus and we will stop