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מה באמת דעתו של הרשל"צ הגאון הרב עובדיה יוסף זצ"ל על העלייה להר הבית? | הרב אלישע וולפסון
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שיעור מעמיק בביאור שיטתו של הגר"ע יוסף זצ"ל אודות שאלת היתר הכניסה להר הבית בימינו לאחר טבילה במקווה טהרה כהלכה, למקומות המותרים בלבד ובמורא מקדש
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Well, my masters and teachers, today,
the 3rd of Cheshvan, is the day of
passing of the great and mighty genius,
Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, of blessed memory.
He was a giant, giant, giant in Torah.
No, I'm not here to hand out grades,
heaven forbid, but, uh, anyone who—
and since it's common knowledge, it
needs no proof—but truly studying his
Torah is something really special. He
really was a giant, a giant among
giants. Every responsum is full of all
good, every answer, every halachic
question, an answer so full, so
detailed, with so many sources,
something rare, truly very special,
very clear, uh...truly, a giant among
giants. And we want to, uh, study and
examine together what he wrote on the
subject of ascending the Temple Mount,
and we’ll see the matters, and may
God enlighten us with His Torah with
God's help. So look, first of all, he
has a responsum, Responsa Yabia Omer,
Part 5, Yoreh De'ah, Section 26, and...
The date the responsum was written: 3rd
of Sivan, 5727, here, the holy city of
Jerusalem, may it be rebuilt and
established, meaning the year that...
>> Here, here they liberated—on the 28th
of Iyar they liberated...
>> The Temple Mount.
>> Four days later.
>> Four days later he is already writing a
responsum, four or five days later he
writes it, it's four, it's four.
>> A responsum, yes.
>> Well, that's exactly a week from
Jerusalem Day, Shavuot, and it’s
three days from Shavuot.
>> Yep.
>> So, uh, very nice, very nice. So he
writes as follows: Since in these days
the Holy One, blessed be He, has
wrought wonders for us, His kindness
has prevailed over us, and all the ends
of the earth have seen the salvation of
our God, for God has redeemed His
people for the sake of His great name,
and we have gone from darkness to light
and from mourning to joy; blessed and
praised be His name, who has kept our
souls in life and has not let our feet
slip. And in His great mercy and
kindness, we also merited the
liberation of the Western Wall, the
place of our Temple, our glory, and
even the rest of the Temple Mount and
the Temple are now under the protection
of Israeli rule. Therefore, I said I
would examine the dispute among our
early sages as to whether it is
permitted at this time to enter the
place of the Temple, and whether it is
necessary to publicize a prohibition on
the matter to prevent a stumbling block
for those who tremble at the word of
God; and also to clarify if it is
permitted to travel by plane or
helicopter and hover over the airspace
of the site of the Sanctuary and the
courtyards and look closely at the holy
place, or if there is a prohibition in
this as well. And I said I will go
through the matter and, with heavenly
assistance, it will be clear with the
help of my Rock and Redeemer. Well,
amazing, first of all, praise to the
Holy One, blessed be He, for the
immense kindnesses we merit, uh, to
ascend and see the face of God. Now, as
he emphasizes here, pay attention to
what occupies, what is the question
that occupies Rabbi Ovadia. It is very
important to pay attention. It is a
dispute among our early sages whether
it is permitted at this time to enter
the place of the Temple and if it is
necessary to publicize a prohibition on
the matter. Meaning, there is a great
dispute among Tannaic, Amoraic, early,
and later authorities that discusses
the question of whether the holiness of
the Temple was for its time or if it
was sanctified for the future as well.
According to the understanding that the
first sanctification was not for the
future.
>> As the Ra'avad rules, as is known, that
one who enters the place at this time
is not liable for karet (excision). The
Meiri also writes that according to
this, the custom is to enter there,
according to what we have heard, yes?
Meaning, he understands that the custom
is lenient, and he also understands
that according to the Rid, there is no
prohibition at all—not to say there
is no Karet, but there is a different
prohibition, yes. So his main response
deals with this. The long response
deals with this question, yes, that if
we truly believe that the [original]
holiness did not sanctify for the
future, then actually today, because
the Temple is destroyed, there is no
restriction; one does not need to
immerse, one can enter anywhere, even
to the Dome of the Rock area, the
entire Temple site, there is no problem
. But if the Halacha is like the view
that the holiness did sanctify for the
future, as the Rambam and most of the
Rishonim and so on, Acharonim, rule,
then consequently there is a
prohibition to enter the Temple Mount
and the Temple site except under
certain conditions, which we will see.
All right? So I will not elaborate now
on this entire discussion. By the way,
we dealt with it here extensively in
the past when we dealt with this issue.
Uh, and, after he elaborates, he writes
as follows: It is explained that the
main Halacha is like the Rambam and
most of the authorities that the first
holiness sanctified for the future.
That is the Halacha, that actually
today it is as if the Temple exists.
Meaning, from a Halachic and legal
perspective, it is as if the Temple
exists. It is forbidden; only the High
Priest can enter the Holy of Holies,
yes, and a stranger who approaches
shall be put to death. Uh, so, so that
exists even today, yes, And to the
place of the Temple, one who is not
purified from the impurity of the Red
Heifer ashes to the area of the Azarot,
there is a prohibition of Karet even
today, and so on. Uh, so Rabbi Ovadia
says: And therefore it is forbidden to
enter the Temple Mount at this time,
even after immersion, with one's shoes
and the dust of one's feet, and so on.
Yes? Meaning, since there is holiness
today on the Temple Mount, even if you
immersed, you are forbidden to enter
with shoes—yes, leather shoes—or
with the dust of your feet, or as the
Mishnah describes, not to do it as a
shortcut or in disrespect, a fortiori.
Meaning the laws of the holiness of the
place exist. Uh, and also it is
forbidden to enter the Temple Mount
just for a stroll. It is not a tourist
spot that you enter for a walk; it is
forbidden. Like regarding our
synagogues and houses of study: the
Baraita says one does not stroll in
them, and one enters them only for the
sake of heaven or to shelter from the
rain, etc. And so the Rambam ruled,
that as part of the commandment of
fearing the Temple, one shall not enter
the Temple Mount except for the sake of
a Mitzvah. Yes, yes, that is a good
principle. Meaning, Rabbi Ovadia says:
Actually, for the Temple Mount, at the
time the Temple existed, there was a
rule of who was permitted to enter the
Temple Mount—only someone who
immersed in a Mikvah, and removed
leather shoes, yes, and entered for the
sake of a Mitzvah. Entered to pray,
entered to get closer to the Holy One,
blessed be He, yes, entered for a
Mitzvah, not just to stroll. So Rabbi
Ovadia says: Even today the same law
applies, because there is holiness in
the place, one must immerse beforehand
and must remove leather shoes
beforehand, etc. And note, even this is
not permitted even after one has
immersed, except outside the place of
the Azarot and the Cheil, because due
to the impurity of the dead, one must
be very careful and keep away so as not
to stumble and enter the place of the
Azarot and the Cheil, lest he be liable
and bear his iniquity. In other words,
Rabbi Ovadia is essentially saying here
in an affirmative tone—from the
general implication you hear an
affirmation—he says correctly: it is
permitted to enter the Temple Mount
after immersion in a mikvah, and when
you strictly adhere to the laws
practiced on the Temple Mount. But even
this is only permitted outside the
Azarot (courtyards) and the Cheil (
terrace). Why? Because today we are all
presumed to be ritually impure due to
contact with the dead, and therefore,
as we mentioned, for someone impure
from the dead, it is forbidden by Torah
law to enter the area of the Azara
itself, the women’s courtyard, and
the Cheil around it; ah, it is
forbidden by rabbinic decree. Therefore
, one must be careful not to enter an
area on the Temple Mount where the
Azarot and the Cheil are located. Right
, so apparently it follows from Rabbi
Ovadia’s words. That it is possible
to enter the Temple Mount, it is
permitted, but with two general
conditions: one condition is that you
observe the halachic requirements of
immersion, reverence, not entering with
shoes, and so on; the second condition
is that you are careful not to enter
the area of the Azarot. And regarding
these two conditions, says the Rav,
Rabbi Ovadia says that it is truly very
difficult to narrow it down and know.
The location of the Azarot and the
Cheil, even though the Radbaz wrote in
his responsa that there is no doubt
that the stone called the Dome of the
Rock is the Foundation Stone upon which
the Holy of Holies stood, and he cites
the Chatam Sofer as well, who also
brings these traditions about the
Foundation Stone; but in another place,
we wrote to cast doubt on this. He
already found that we have raised
objections to this. Interesting. I am
saying I have some reservation here
regarding the tradition. Ah. It says
correctly that this is what the Radbaz
said, and he cites the Chatam Sofer as
well. In another place, we wrote to
cast doubt on this. I am not familiar
with a doubt he wrote, other than that
he wrote in the notes that there are
those who wrote, researchers who
claimed that it is not the Foundation
Stone but the Stone of the Shetin (
drains). Yes, what the Rav later said,
it is not the intention that you are
now casting doubt on everything as if
everything is a question, we don’t
know anything; but we have heard that
there are those who argued that perhaps
it is not, that the Temple needs to
move slightly westward. And even though
we know that the Western Wall is the
western wall of the Temple Mount, and
from there to the eastern wall is 500
cubits. Yes, so he says: but you have a
lot of space apparently on the Temple
Mount, so what is the problem? In any
case, we do not know the distance
between the Western Wall and the wall
of the Holy of Holies. Yes, the Mishnah
does not state what the distance is
between the wall of the Temple Mount
and the Cheil and the Azarot, it does
not state it. So you enter—you
don’t know how much you are permitted
to enter? Ah. And what the Tosafot Yom
Tov wrote, that 100 cubits separate
them, is only by way of example, as he
himself wrote there. Tiferet Yisrael
wrote there that the distance between
them is 63 cubits. Sheilat David wrote
that it is impossible for us in any way
to pinpoint the location of the altar,
and one must be concerned about this
regarding the prohibition of Karet, yes
. Well, those are two slightly
different matters. So he says, from the
side of the Mishnah, it is true that
there are areas on the Mount that are
certainly permitted to enter, but we
don't know exactly where they are. And
he also brings the Sheilat David, but
that Sheilat David deals with the
matter of finding the location of the
altar, not the matter of the permitted
places on the Temple Mount. And then he
says: we cannot know exactly the
location of the altar, and therefore,
by implication, the location of the
warning area precisely, so you might
end up performing forbidden
outside-sacrifices if you slaughter
outside the warning area, and so on,
and not build the altar in the right
place. And therefore, it is certainly
necessary to keep away and take care
not to enter the Temple Mount, even
after immersion and for the sake of a
commandment. Why? Because the masses
will come to break through and enter in
a state of ritual impurity into the
area of the courtyards and the
Sanctuary. A ruling that does more harm
than good. I have a question here. A
reading comprehension question. Rabbi
Ovadia just wrote that one should cast
doubt on the words of the Radbaz. And
it's clear, and also from the Mishna
it's not clear where, so it should have
been, "And therefore it is certainly
necessary to keep away so that one does
not enter the Temple Mount, even for
the sake of a commandment," why?
>> He might enter the holy place.
>> Because he doesn't know where to enter.
>> Yes.
>> Because you don't know, we don't know
where to enter. But that is not what
the Radbaz writes; he writes: "Because
the masses will come to break through."
It's not "break through," because "the
masses will come to break through"–it
means entering in a state of impurity
into the area of the courts, a ruling
that does more harm than good, and
people will err and enter the forbidden
area and not just the permitted one.
But I don't understand, I don't know
where the permitted place is at all.
Why do I need to be told that people
will learn and enter the permitted
place—into a forbidden place? Tell me
that I don't know where the permitted
place is at all! Something here is
strange, it’s all a doubt of*karet*(
spiritual excision). It should say:
Therefore one must keep away. What is
this "keep away"? There is a total
prohibition! What is this "keep away
and take care not to enter"? There is a
total prohibition to enter the Temple
Mount, it’s a doubt of*karet*! Why
doesn't the Radbaz write that? Why
doesn't he write it that way? So we
will see later, but we can already see
here that he brings the Radbaz, he
brings the Chatam Sofer on the
tradition, he also brings the Mishna,
which clearly shows that the Mishna—
it is possible according to the Mishna
to determine places that are permitted
to enter. Meaning, Rabbi Ovadia is also
being vague here and didn't explain,
but it is absolutely clear to all
opinions that it is impossible to
determine places on the Temple Mount
that can be entered. That is not a
question. True, at the Western Wall, on
the western side, it is indeed close,
but in the south, the Mishna says most
of it is from the south. You have a
huge area in the south that, according
to all opinions, even without the
tradition, you could even enter it. In
my opinion, according to my
understanding of the plain meaning.
That is why Rabbi Ovadia writes like
this. Meaning, he didn't want to
elaborate here, but he says: true,
there is actually a sentence missing
here, as it were. It is true that one
can actually determine places that are
certainly permitted to enter, one
cannot argue with that, but in the end,
even if you find a place that is in
principle certainly permitted to enter,
the masses will come and break through,
enter the area of the courts, and a
ruling that does more harm than good.
Okay, that’s how it’s possible, I
think so, that is the only way to
understand Rabbi Ovadia. And they
already took a count and decreed and
the Torah giants agreed—I think this
paragraph here is a later addition, it
doesn't seem like it was written on the
3rd of Sivan. Ah, and already at this
time the greatest of the generation
have counted and decreed and agreed
with all force to set up a fence and
warn with a severe warning, that no
person shall enter the Temple Mount
until Shiloh comes; praised be His name
that He arrived, and then it will be
fulfilled: "And I will sprinkle upon
you pure water and you will be purified
," and we shall dwell securely, blessed
be our Redeemer, a complete greatness,
may the Lord our God increase, blessed
be He who answers our prayers for
eternity, Amen. So much for his
response in Yabia Omer. Alright, and
this, as mentioned, was written
immediately after the Six Day War. So,
Rabbi Ovadia, let us summarize his
response: he rules according to the
Rambam, therefore there is sanctity
there, the place of the Temple, and
thus one is allowed to enter the Temple
Mount only after immersing in a Mikveh
and strictly observing all the laws
concerning the Temple Mount. And then,
although theoretically it would have
been possible then, according to this,
to enter the Temple Mount, we also have
reason to fear that it is not known
exactly where the permitted areas are.
And it seems that the main reason is
that people will err. Meaning, even if
you have studied and researched and
entered places that are certainly
permitted, yes? Which means—he does
not say it explicitly, but this is how
I understand his words—in practice,
people will stumble and not know where
it is permitted, and the public does
not know where it is permitted, and
consequently, people will stumble. And
therefore, the great sages of Israel
have already decreed not to enter the
Temple Mount. Fine, now there is a
response written in Hazon Ovadia. Hazon
Ovadia was written many, many years
later; I don't know exactly when. It is
accepted that this was in the final
years of Rabbi Ovadia. These are things
he wrote more in his final years, and
there is a ruling there in the book
Hazon, Part Taanit, page 454. He writes
as follows: It is a severe prohibition
to enter the Holy Temple at this time.
Because we are all currently in the
status of being ritually impure, and
one who enters the Holy Temple, his
soul is cut off, he is liable for Karet
. And it exists: the sanctity is
different, the sanctity that will be in
the future. Okay, what is the Holy
Temple? The Holy Temple does not exist;
the intention is, of course, the place
of the Holy Temple. Note: "And the
proper thing is not to enter the Temple
Mount area at all, for we do not
possess the boundaries of the area of
sanctity surrounding the Holy Temple."
Now here we must be careful; Rabbi
Ovadia rules, his language is golden.
One must note, Rabbi Ovadia does not
write "a severe prohibition to enter
the Temple Mount" at this time. He
simply could have said: there is a
doubt, we do not know where the exact
boundaries are, and it is a doubt of
Karet, a severe prohibition to enter
the Temple Mount at this time. The
point is, that is not what Rabbi Ovadia
writes. Rabbi Ovadia writes of the
prohibitions to enter the Holy Temple
at this time. The Holy Temple is only
the inner area, a very small area; it
is about 5%of the total area of the
Temple Mount today, about 5%, that is
all, the area of the Dome of the Rock,
as we will see in a moment. Even
according to Rabbi Ovadia's ruling,
that is the area that is the site of
the Holy Temple, and it is forbidden to
enter it. "And the proper thing is not
to enter the Temple Mount area"—by "
proper thing," he implies that it is
permitted halachically, there is no
prohibition. If there were a
prohibition, the Rabbi would write "it
is forbidden," but he writes "the
proper thing is not to enter," for we
do not have the boundaries of the area
of sanctity surrounding the Temple.
Meaning, once again, there is a fear
that we won't know exactly where it is
permitted, where it is forbidden, and
people will stumble. Yes, yes, he
doesn't elaborate here, but he uses a
very delicate word. Correct, one can
look further into Rabbi Ovadia’s
responsa where he writes what is
correct. The intention is that,
according to the letter of the law, the
matter is permitted. There is a
possibility to do this completely in a
permitted manner, but since there are
concerns about it, it is correct not to
enter. Beautiful. So those are the
things he wrote. Now I want to bring
you a few more important things. There
is a letter written by Rabbi Avraham
Dweck. Rabbi Yosef Elbo told me that he
went up with him here for many years to
the Temple Mount, and he wrote a letter
to Rabbi Ovadia. In the year...maybe it
was 5740? I don't remember. To the
honorable Gaon, the great luminary, the
stronghold and pillar, the wonder of
the generation and its splendor, the
Geon Rabbi Yosef, may he live, Rishon
LeZion, leader of the Torah Sages—so
this is a little, a little after 5740
—peace and blessing, I request from
your honor to authorize me to set up a
Sukkah for the Birkat Avraham Yeshiva
on the Temple Mount opposite the site
of the Sanctuary, by the Eastern Gate
—it was here, just as we are, yes, uh
, And a distance of 300 meters from the
Western Wall. Uh...uh, I don't exactly
understand what is written here, it's
handwritten—in order to fulfill this
important mitzvah in the courtyards of
the House of God, as our ancestors did
in the days of Ezra and Nehemiah, to
give us a foothold in His holy place.
In short, he tells him: I ask that you
authorize me to set up a Sukkah here to
study Torah at the Eastern Gate where
we are sitting here on the Temple Mount
, as Ezra and Nehemiah did when they
set up Sukkot in the courtyards of the
House of God, as the verse says. And he
says, he says: It is possible to have
an entrance for those who have immersed
during the day, without shoes, from the
north side. Yes, we are here, away from
the tribes...Very far from the Western
Wall plaza, located in the Herodian
addition and also from all, and from
the entire camp of the Divine Presence,
the borders and the warning, as the
Radbaz ruled, who permitted entry even
from the Cotton Merchants 'Gate, small
ones, close to the camp of the Divine
Presence, so that they do not go up to
the plateau where the Dome of the Rock
is and enter, God forbid, into the area
that is behind the Holy of Holies. Yes,
in short, although he also writes that
it is possible to permit the entire
south, etc., but every time he does
something very, very, very safe; an
entrance here, they will enter from the
north gate and enter here into a Sukkah
, to study Torah here on the Temple
Mount. That is what he asks Rabbi
Ovadia to authorize for him. So
unfortunately we do not have a letter,
I don't have it, I don't have a letter
of Rabbi Ovadia's response to this, but
there is a letter that the same Rabbi
Dweck, Rabbi Dweck, writes to Rabbi
Yisrael Meir Lau, who was the Chief
Rabbi of Israel later. And this, pay
attention, it is important to emphasize
: this is during Rabbi Ovadia's
lifetime, yes, Rabbi Ovadia is alive,
and he sends a letter to the Chief
Rabbi of Israel, Rabbi Yisrael Meir Lau
, and he asks him for the same thing,
the Chief Rabbinate, to permit prayer.
And he writes, he writes here as
follows: And when I wanted to set up a
sukkah on the Temple Mount near the
Eastern Gate in the year 5740, just as
our ancestors did in the time of Ezra
and Nehemiah in the courtyards of the
House of God, and to give us a foothold
in His holy place, the genius of his
generation, the great decider for the
entire House of Joseph, the honorable
Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, may he live and be
well, promised me—that is how he
quotes, according to what he writes
here, he literally quotes: "I am
willing to meet you halfway, but they,
the Chief Rabbis, must provide a letter
first, and then I will provide one as
well." And because of the controversy
that existed regarding the Ethiopians,
the matter did not conclude, and so on.
In short, he is asking him to permit it
. So, there is a very interesting piece
of testimony here that he writes, that
in fact, Rabbi Ovadia, before he was
Chief Rabbi, yes, he said to him: "
Listen, I am willing to meet you
halfway and actually permit it, but
first of all, let the Chief Rabbis
permit it." So we see from here, first
of all, that from a halachic
perspective, the Rabbi did not say to
him, God forbid: "Are you crazy? A
prohibition of excision (karet), what
are you talking about?""Enter the
Temple Mount?""Have you lost your mind?
" No, Rabbi Ovadia did not react to him
like that. The Rabbi said to him: "I am
willing, but listen, this is a general
matter, it is a public one; first of
all, let the Chief Rabbis give their
consent, and then I, I will as well."
So that is the first thing we see here.
A similar thing is a letter from Rabbi
Shear Yashuv Cohen, of blessed memory,
also a member of the Chief Rabbinate,
the Rabbi of Haifa, who also writes to
the Rabbi—when Rabbi Bakshi-Doron was
the Chief Rabbi of Israel, he wrote a
letter to Rabbi Bakshi-Doron—this is
painful, and I also emphasize: while
Rabbi Ovadia was still alive, and he
turns to him that one must establish a
place of prayer on the Temple Mount,
and so on, with all the strict rules of
Halacha. And then he writes: "Rabbi
Goren, of blessed memory, and
may the honorable Rishon LeZion, Rabbi
Ovadia Yosef, may he live and be well,
be granted a long and good life, were
of the opinion that a distinction must
be made between the Temple Mount and
the place of the Temple." They did not
view the entire Temple Mount as subject
to the prohibition of karet, what on
earth? There is a place that is
forbidden, which is a small area, and
there are places that are permitted.
This was also the opinion of Rabbi
Shaul Israeli, Rabbi Avraham Shapira,
and honestly, the genius Rishon LeZion,
Rabbi Menachem, may he live and be well
. Everyone was of the opinion that a
synagogue should be established on the
Temple Mount. Does Rabbi Shear Yashuv's
knowledge, which he says, he writes
this while they were still alive, yes?
So to come and cast doubt like this? It
is, there is a bit of audacity in that.
Rabbi Shear Yashuv writes, Rabbi Shear
Yashuv writes to him explicitly that
Rabbi Ovadia was in favor of
establishing a synagogue on the Temple
Mount. And from where, from where is he
saying this? So first of all, he served
for decades as a member of the Chief
Rabbinate Council, and worked on the
matter, and wrote letters on the matter
, and so on, but. There is a protocol,
we have published it several times, a
protocol from the Rabbi, of the Chief
Rabbinate Council headed by Rabbi
Ovadia Yosef when he was the Chief
Rabbi of Israel, in the year 5742 and
thereabouts. It is written as follows:
"Rabbi Ovadia Yosef says, let us move
on to item B." Yes, they sat, they
discussed, they decided, they moved on.
Topics, so section B: The demand to
define areas, if possible, for places
where one can ascend the Temple Mount.
That is the request. Rabbi Ovadia says:
I propose that a committee be
established to examine the matter. What
is there to examine? It is forbidden,
karet, doubtful karet, until the
Messiah comes, wait for the Messiah. No
, says Rabbi Ovadia, as Chief Rabbi: I
propose that a committee be established
to examine, essentially to check where
it is permitted and where it is
forbidden. There are two important
rabbis here who say: No, this should
not be done; if they permit certain
places, it will be a breach and people
will enter all the places. And another
rabbi says: I am also of this opinion.
But Rabbi Kapach says: Do not close
them off, it must be examined. Also
Rabbi Mesas: It must be examined, to
get to the truth. So there is a
majority here, three against two: Rabbi
Ovadia, Rabbi Kapach, and Rabbi Mesas
against two rabbis who say no. The
Council's decision: Appoint Rabbis
Mordechai Eliyahu, Simcha HaCohen, and
Dov Lior to a committee regarding the
Temple Mount, to examine the issue and
submit its opinion to the Council. That
was the decision of the Chief Rabbinate
under Rabbi Ovadia Yosef. In other
words, Rabbi Ovadia did not say: How
could you? There is a prohibition
against entering the Temple Mount, God
forbid, karet. No, Ovadia said: We need
to examine, we need to research and
determine where it is permitted and
where it is forbidden, to set the rules
. Unfortunately, as far as is known,
the committee did not come to pass, it
did not convene. Uh.
>> But, but in practice, Rabbi Dov Lior (I
don't know, perhaps by virtue of this
very committee) went into the issue and
permitted it. Rabbi Eliyahu, we have
already dealt with this, he also wrote
several letters to establish a
synagogue on the Temple Mount, etc.;so
we also have a majority on the
committee that certainly permitted the
matter. Now, So, What we are saying
here is that the thought that there is
...why am I emphasizing all this? After
all, Rabbi Ovadia eventually ruled that
it is forbidden, forbidden; but one
must note, this majority itself said
let's research it. It is true that in
practice at the time, and as there is
also a letter from Rabbi Getz, of
blessed memory, the Chief Rabbi of the
Western Wall and Holy Sites, who said
that the rabbis cannot, also from a
political perspective, from...it is
very, very sensitive. Even Rabbi
Eliyahu, when he proposed establishing
a synagogue on the Temple Mount, they
attacked him politically too, "Are you
crazy?" And that. Meaning, the topic is
very, very, very sensitive. Therefore,
the question is what is the Halacha,
and we see that according to the
Halacha, Rabbi Ovadia believed that in
principle—as Rabbi Yeshuv and Rabbi
Dvick testify, and the words of Rabbi
Ovadia himself—that there is
definitely a Halachic possibility to
permit ascending the Temple Mount. Now
I want to address the matter of the
permitted places. Does Rabbi Ovadia,
who we already saw brings some doubt
about the tradition on the one hand, on
the other hand you see that he does not
treat it as if it is all a case of
doubtful karet? Certainly not, so it is
not clear. So look, there are things
the Rabbi wrote explicitly, which is
why I knew what he wrote there, that we
wrote to raise doubt, it’s really
like a way to help hedge the fence. So
you already say, "Here, we found
someone who expressed doubt," but truly
, from a halachic perspective, Rabbi
Ovadia believed—and not just believed
, he ruled in practice—that there is
no doubt about the place of the Holy
Temple, again, the place of the Dome of
the Rock. Where do I get this from? So,
there is a book, the book*Ma'adanei
Melech*—the book*Ma'adanei Melech*is
a collection of Rabbi Ovadia’s, uh, I
think it’s a book intended for women,
uh—and he writes there as follows:
Part 1, page 321, those who enter, for
our many sins, they don’t ask about
religion, they don’t ask about wisdom
, they even enter the Mosque of Omar,
the Dome of the Rock, where there
certainly was an*Azara*(Temple
Courtyard), there certainly was an*
Azara*there. It's not me saying it,
it’s...Rabbi Ovadia says: No, there
is no fear that it is an*Azara*, they
don't say that the*Azara*is there, it's
not "maybe," but rather there certainly
was an*Azara*there. Certainly, it is
certain, what religion has it—if you
entered a place of*Karet*(spiritual
excision), into the Holy of Holies, you
entered the mosque, he says inside.
Here Rabbi Ovadia speaks out against
ascending the Temple Mount, but what
bothers him about people entering the*
Azara*? That they enter? Because a
person, a person ascends to tour the
Temple Mount, so what does he want to
see? C. The Dome of the Rock, yes. So
just a person who enters the Temple
Mount, that is where he goes, after all
. Why would he go anywhere else? It is
the most central place here. So, so it
cries out: "Rabbi Ovadia, you are
entering a place that is certainly the*
Azara*." What do we see from this? That
it is indeed the place of the Holy of
Holies, the Dome of the Rock. We see
that Rabbi Ovadia held to tradition.
Yes, definitely. Proof that he held to
tradition, that, it is very strong
proof, which appears in several places
as well. Rabbi Ovadia started some kind
of controversy already a few years ago.
There were those who asked, concerned
that the Western Wall of the Temple
Mount is the wall of the*Azara*. Yes,
maybe it is the*Azara*wall? It looks so
close to the Dome, if you look from the
outside, there is a concern maybe it is
the*Azara*wall. There was someone who
worried about this, there is someone
who understood it that way even in the*
Radbaz*responsa, although that is not
what he says, but we won’t go into
that now, uh. And Rabbi Ovadia reached
[a conclusion] in several places, in
the*Yabia Omer*responsa and others, he
writes that it is certainly not the*
Azara*area. Why is it certainly not the
*Azara*area? Where do I get that from?
Because he says he asked an Arab who is
here, also, to measure the distance
from the Foundation Stone to the
Western Wall, and he says according to
the Mishna, the distance between the
wall, between the Foundation Stone and
the*Azara*wall is at most, if I
remember correctly, at the very most it
is 37 cubits, if I remember correctly,
at most after all the additions, yes,
38. Yes. Uh, like, it doesn't matter
what the calculation is now. The
distance between the Foundation Stone
and the Western Wall is about 100
meters, about 200 cubits. So it is
clear, yes, because the distance of the
Temple Court wall was 11 cubits from
the Sanctuary wall. Yes, so there was a
distance from the Foundation Stone to
the Sanctuary wall, a little bit; 17
cubits were between the Sanctuary wall
and the Court wall, and so it cannot be
that the Western Wall is the Court wall
, since it is very far from the
Foundation Stone. That is what Rabbi
Ovadia writes. By the way, Rabbi Amar
brings up this statement of Rabbi
Ovadia several times and he says it
with admiration: This is a proof that
has no answer. (Wait, let us consider,
if the Foundation Stone is not certain,
then what proof is there here at all?
After all, if the Foundation Stone is
not the Foundation Stone to begin with,
then the Court wall could perhaps
really be the Court wall, and maybe the
place of the Temple is actually located
adjacent to the west somewhere there).
What do we see? That Rabbi Ovadia
explicitly stated in terms of Halacha
that the Foundation Stone is the
Foundation Stone, and therefore it is
clear that the Western Wall is not the
Court wall but the Temple Mount wall
below, the wall of the expanded Temple
Mount. So that is one point. What else
is there? There is, uh, first of all,
in general Rabbi Ovadia, one must
understand how he writes about the
Radbaz, also in Yabia Omer regarding
the whole issue of the permission for
the Ethiopians. So he writes: "And I
also saw in a responsum of the Gaon and
Saint, this is in Yabia Omer, Part 8,
Even HaEzer, Siman 11,' I saw in a
responsum of the Gaon and Saint, the
Rishon LeZion Rabbi Raphael Aharon
Penijel, of blessed memory, who also
relied on the Radbaz and the Mabit. '""
Who would come after these two mighty
kings to cast doubt on their words?""
After these giants?""Does one not fear
for his soul to be scorched by their
embers, as their embers are fire
founded on truth and justice?" and so
on there. And Rabbi Ovadia adds: "And I
am terribly amazed, to dismiss the
words of the world's geniuses for the
words of researchers?""And who is
dismissed for whom?""I am greatly
astonished; these things are suspicious
of everything." The greatness of the
Radbaz, who is considered a great
decisor even in the generation of Maran
the Beit Yosef, is not to be debated;
proof and lengthiness on this are
superfluous. Rabbi Ovadia says: What,
who can even disagree with the Radbaz,
what? You will bring me some researcher
who invents something? You think you
can even disagree with the Radbaz? Have
you lost your mind? Yes. So it is true
that he writes it in a different
context, but it is clear that the
matter is exactly the same matter. If
the Radbaz rules practically without
any doubt, there is no doubt that the
Foundation Stone is the Foundation
Stone. Yes. We see Rabbi Ovadia's
attitude toward the words of the Radbaz
. So it is understood why it is clear
that Rabbi Ovadia also relied on it for
practical ruling. Another point for
which I don’t currently have the
source, but it is also very strong: as
is known, Rabbi Goren went into the
Western Wall tunnels, and there was a
whole story there that Sharon wanted to
go in there, where we walk in the
Western Wall tunnels, to actually enter
. He wanted to search for the Ark of
the Covenant, and he asked the Tzitz
Eliezer, Rabbi Eliezer Waldenberg, and
Rabbi Ovadia if he could enter there,
because it enters into the area of the
Temple Mount, certainly yes. So Rabbi
Ovadia permitted him. Why? Why? Because
he said that the distance from the Dome
of the Rock is great, and the tunnels
were not sanctified. If they are
tunnels that entered a restricted area,
there is a concern they might be
sanctified. But tunnels that are only
in other areas of the Temple Mount,
they were not sanctified. And since it
is far enough from the Dome of the Rock
, from the Foundation Stone, it was not
sanctified. And therefore he permitted
him to enter. And I also heard that he
himself entered. I don't know for sure,
but that is what I heard. Yes. So here
too, we see once again a practical
ruling. A practical ruling, that Rabbi
Ovadia ruled according to the response
of the Radbaz, according to the known
tradition that allows entering the
Temple Mount in the permitted areas.
And in another place he wrote, I
believe it is in Yalkut Yosef, Rabbi
Ovadia brought the Zohar, the Holy
Zohar, Parashat Vayetze, a new Zohar
where Rabbi Elazar cries—an amazing
story where he cries over the
Foundation Stone, and he sees in a
vision, a divine vision, that the
gentiles will disparage you and place
their dead upon you. And then he brings
Rabbi Moshe Hagiz, who writes: behold,
in our times this has been fulfilled,
that the gentiles bring their dead into
the Dome of the Rock, the Foundation
Stone. Yes, all this is brought by
Rabbi Ovadia Yosef. If so, it is clear
from everything said that, in terms of
practical law, Rabbi Ovadia Yosef ruled
according to the Radbaz, according to
the tradition regarding the Temple
Mount, and he ruled in principle that
it is permitted, of course, to enter
the Temple Mount after immersion in the
permitted areas. And therefore, all
these sources, I have brought the
sources. Now, what can be concluded
from this? My opinion is that even for
someone who follows Rabbi Ovadia Yosef
and all his rulings and paths, it is
permitted and a commandment to go up to
the Temple Mount. Why? Because what
emerges from the Rabbi's teaching is
that, in terms of basic law, the matter
is permitted. And what is the main
concern that Rabbi Ovadia actually
writes about? It is the concern of
causing a stumbling block. The fear
that people will stumble. Yes? Which is
very understandable. Understandable.
You say, "Okay, you permit it, you have
studied, you know the boundaries, but
you will cause others to stumble." So
that is not called Halakha (law), that
is called a directive. A directive
needs to be examined in reality. If
this directive truly preserves the
sanctity of the place, then it is
excellent. We must uphold the Rabbi's
words. But if the reality has changed,
and what we thought would help preserve
the place does the opposite, then
surely the Rabbi would want you to come
and fix the situation and create a
directive that rectifies the situation.
And now, we must face reality here: the
reality is that when those who fear God
do not ascend the Temple Mount, the
place is left abandoned, desecrated,
and disgraced, both by our enemies and
by tourists and people who know nothing
and enter freely. But precisely because
today there are many righteous,
God-fearing people who ascend the
Temple Mount, we even have maps here, a
map for those ascending the Temple
Mount. It is written that one must
immerse before entering permitted areas
, and we have a map of exactly where it
is allowed to walk. Yes, everything is
very, very organized. From here, we
walk around the perimeter, far from any
prohibited area and The ascent is
coordinated with the police only in the
permitted areas. Yes? So the concern
that existed back then, not only is it
the opposite today, right? Today, it is
not just possible to say: the concern
that people might err always exists;
even when the Temple stood, such a
concern existed. But today, thanks to
those ascending the Temple Mount in
purity, the number of those ascending
in violation decreases. Therefore, on
the contrary, it is a great mitzvah to
ascend the Temple Mount in holiness and
purity after immersion in a mikvah, and
to instruct the public only on the
proper way. It is forbidden to ascend
in a prohibited manner; it is a mitzvah
to ascend only in the permitted manner.
May God help us so that the merit of
Maran Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, of blessed
memory, a holy and righteous man,
stands for us, all of Israel, to
fulfill his teaching, to show grace for
the death of Torah to reach the place
of the Divine Presence and fulfill what
he wanted. He wanted a committee to be
formed and for a synagogue to be
established here. So here, a committee
was formed, rabbis arose who examined
it, among them also Rabbi Lior and
Rabbi Eliyahu, and they reached a
decision. So fortunate are those who
merit to fulfill this, with God's help,
that we may merit complete redemption
with mercy. Therefore, may it be His
will to say Amen.
>> Amen. Yeah.