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Today's D is and we are at the Mishna in the middle of the of the very straightforward. Those are theapor. So the had to do he had to do and other whether or not he had to do he definitely had to do. What happens if in between the and the cabala the dam of the behema the blood that's squirted out at the time of the spilled on the floor and then rather than the cayen taking the dam directly from the animal after the he had to gather it from the floor he then put it into a says the Mishna in other words the dam has to come directly from the into the if it's on the floor in between that creates a it's known as the of that describes the we learn from there not all of the dam does the have to be it's he has to be the so the dames is the dam that squirts out of the when the ken does the so Theita of an animal that's kachin is the same as the of an animal that's you have to sh of the two sim the trachea and the esophagus the k and the when those two were water blood started squirting all over the place that dam is called the that's the d that had and that's the dam that came out of the animal when they started skinning the animals that's the dam that trickled out from the after that initial squirt already took place. So it's not all the dam rather it's the as opposed to the when the we learn from there that you have to directly from the in other words if it's if it's not direct the dam first falls on the floor and then afterwards the co takes the dam from the floor that's going to be now the truth is how we dening from that the dam has to be from the parish that said meaning the me would be attached to the word it would be very good but that's not what it says it's so the address is if you're going to tell me that you're not supposed to dam meaning you're not supposed to move the men from the word to the word but rather you're supposed to what would the be probably says the what it means throughout chass Wherever there's a me, it means you don't need the entire thing. Even a mix is going to be true. The problem is in it's not true. You can't tell me that the only has to be mix of when is doing he has to make sure that he's not some of the dam all the now we defined dam as it relates to as it relates to and that is but he has to be all the it's not enough for him to be only some of the dam how do I know that with regards to the was the lefto after So what did the cayen do? The says as he would pour the to the and it says take all the dam and pour it to the side. Now we know that all the dam didn't go down to the because some of the dam had already been used for this. So, but the bottom line is is from that although literally it's discussing we learn with regards to the that the cababola had to be all the so you can't then because that's not true move the manua The T obviously holds that this is something you can do. You can take a letter from one word cut paste it onto another word. That's essentially what we're doing. So instead of the would be which we know is not true. We're going to not to teach me that the has to be directly from the in other words is it's going to be So the price said what's the how could you tell me all the dam of the par needs to be poured down to the aside. We're dealing with we're dealing by definition with not all the what's you did. Now you have the leftover D. That's what we just spoke at. The bottom line is the what's the it's learned out from it's says we not but rather how do you know to that because would mean us and we learn from this that not mix from the men can't be attached to the word. It has to be attached to the word. So weap that the has to be directly from the par if it's going to be possible. He has to make sure that as soon as he shacks he quickly lifts up the knife. The reason he has to do that is he has to make sure that no dam is going to trickle from the knife into the kishar. So when the kan is doing he should be getting all the dam from the par or from the animal that's being shak none of the dam should be coming from the sak because if a little bit of dam is from the together with the that comes directly from the animal that will disqualify the entire says how did they wipe the dam now they didn't take the damak and put it into the we just said you can't do that presumably they didn't use either because it's probably not covered we're dealing with which even though and even though brings didn't even need a but still we're dealing with and if we're dealing with that it's the just use so the question is if they didn't save that d and put it into the how then did they clean the sock they would use the other side the back side of the mis that was used for the kipur of you find the poszra that theories were referred to as kipur and rashi says kipur means it's so you see that the the served a dual purpose obviously it was used to be that's its primary function but additionally was also used to clean the socket when somebody he has to make sure that the verm these were blood vessels next to the ka and the vash next to the trach the esophagus the two sim that the would in order to render it a so right next to it there were these blood vessels and there was a mitzvah for the to the like the but there is so says should make sure that the veriden are in the nari says it's not possible It's impossible for the literally in the remember you're taking a live animal you're putting it on top of a a measly cle and you want to somehow make sure that the blood vessels are going to be inside the cle it's not possible you should do however is is you should situate the animal in a way where you know as soon as the happens the veriden are going to be above the earspace and today's do is # earspace it has to be literally on top of the ear space of where the cliches is. So that you're not going to have to move the cliches two inches to the left to line it up with the verid to be able to catch that down. It should immediately be underneath the verid. So the verid and the should be one on top of another says the you have to make sure as soon as you do the that the can see the meaning they have to be literally on top of the cle. The reason they have to be on top of the cle and this is going to be the theme of the next half of Gumar is because if the ver wouldn't be literally on top of the k it would come out that they're in ear space that's above something else. If that's the case, we said there's and of is that you have to be directly from the par directly from the par means that the dam can't be anywhere other than from the par into the that's why if it's nishbach it's a problem because it was on the ritzpah it wasn't from the par the same is true if it's an earpace above something other than the cle. So if it's in the ear space above the cle so that's not a heck so that's considered darableno but if it's going to be in some other a ear space that's over something else. So now the way we're going to look at it in this is as if the didn't happen directly from the it happened from that that's looked at as an if that's looked at there's going to be a problem. So it's based on that that and they all said the same that you have to make sure that the are literally on top of the not in the cle it's not possible says Rashi but at least on the so as soon as the dam leaves the it's in the is as if it's already in the so now you have what would happen if a's doing and as he's doing before the dam entered the of the cliches. So it's in midair. It's landing towards the but it didn't enter yet the confines of the and at that point the bottom of the gave out. Now it seems like from the shili was pushed to him that it was stating that we'll see the gumar is going to say it wasn't so but at first glance just to understand the gumar at this point. It sounds like that wasn't a shah he understood that the d doesn't have to land to the bottom of the kicharis in order for it to be considered in as if it's in the kjaris as long as it's in the a of the even if it's above the walls of the kleshares that's going to be okay. The sha was where it's above the walls of the cliches and the bottom of the gave out. So it was technically in the but the way it played out was it was so the question is I bring you I bring you a from. One of the things that m needed as far as his tire from the paradum was they would take the ashes of the paradum and he would mish it. He would mix it together with the water had to be means that the water is coming directly from its source. So if it's flowing from a stream it goes from the stream directly into this kali where the apha of the paradum is. If however it goes to another kali first it's going to be a problem. Similar to the concept of that you have a mikvah you have to make sure that the water goes directly from its natural source into the kal where the is if it makes a stop in between if there's a stopover it creates a plea so what happened in in this case was there's a where there was a that was there was a stream of that was flowing and it was flowing down a mountain let's say on the bottom of the mountain there was a k there was a jug and the water was going to land inside this if it was going to continue flowing naturally that's where it was going to go. A cayenne wanted to use that water for the aaduma. So he goes and he caps it. So before the water lands into the he intercepts the water and now it's inside his kali that has the of the is that okay or is it not okay? So the price explains that obviously if the water landed in the now the wants to take the water from the and use it for that's possible even if the water never entered the but it was in the airspace of the so it was lined up directly parallel to the bottom of the is and even if it's not inside the of the it's above the walls of the that's enough for it to be viewed as if it was in the believe thus it's not considered if it's not considered it's going to be puzzled if the person took this not the a of the he took the and he put it on the mouth of this pipe from where this was flowing any water that enters the is possible any water that's in the pipe but never came inside the is going to be mean there's no concept of airspace if you take the mouth of the and you attach it to the pipe. But what we need is the the ratio. What do you see in the ratio? If there was a that was underneath this pipe of water that even the water that's in the in the ear of the is already considered possible. What's the reason? He goes on. So he ask me a sh if the kay was being the dam and he had the underneath the everything is lined up perfectly and while the dam is in the above the def of the it's the says that if there's underneath the and a now takes a intercepts the water we say it's as if it was already in the thus it's not thus it's going to be possible right wrong was very very precise we it was gave he he knew this price it's clear because he never asked the sh of it's He was only asking. So what's the I'll bring in that case that's underneath the nothing gave out. Of course it's hearing says it's very obvious response must have asked two questions. His question was what about what's going to be over there and told I don't know the for that I don't have but with regards to the you want to know for that I have the B is not being the is the affformentioned exchange change between is the way would tell it over had a different version of how that story went down. His version was the was not a sh in of where gave out and it's a sh of etc etc. It was meaning according to according to they were learning and he asked him regarding the what would be if the water was coming down a pipe it was on the ear space above somebody came that was it wasn't is it a problem and he was pured him from a rashi says you have to say that being that it's a woesi obviously didn't know But the bottom line is it wasn't the wasn't told before had a third like they were learning. That's what he wanted to know. If the intercepts the water before it lands in the mis is it is not and didn't bring him from his was from he said aren't you masking if there's that has to be and that's why there's that even have to be on top of the he said but there's going to be a little bit of ear space you're going to have no choice it's inevitable that there's going to be a little bit of ear space between the veriden and the misre cuz it's not possible like we spoke at earlier to literally put the verid inside the the so there's going to be a little bit of space so said I don't understand if what about the must be that it's told I'm sure the you don't even need the he told them very simple even it has to be right because Every has to be how is it ever? How isabo that has to travel through some as it goes from the into the is not a because the ear space on top of the kal is looked as in the so as soon as it reaches the of the At that point it's already indicab either way. Those are the three versions of the way the played out. is is a clear and that is and it's we're learning that right now because it's important in understanding 101 because the has to be directly in the from the it can't be if it can't be then it can't even travel through airspace that's foreign earpace must be that the earpace that's on top of the is considered already part of the that's bottom line what so in the first wasn't more on this again we're discussing that There's a den of and the water has to go directly from the Mayan into the kali where the apher of the aduma is. So what happens if you have this stream of water and somebody comes and he takes his hand and by moving his hand he directs the water in the direction of the where the kali is that has the apher of the paraglo or he put his foot there or he put vegetables in all those cases going to be possible if you put leaves of reads there or leaves of walnuts because it's going to be cautious. So basically what he did was is he put something in the direction of the flow of water to channel it to where he wants the water to go. So he wants the water to go together with the apher the but it's not flowing here naturally. So he has to put something to divert it by using your little patent. Now the water is going to end up going where it's supposed to go. So is it a problem or is it not a problem? Has to be. So does that somehow dilute the sanctity of this water the purity of this water. It's no longer or not. Maybe it's still considered. So it depends what he put there is. What's the difference? If the thing that you use to divert the water was a so your hand can become your can become food could be. That's why those things are possible like the other things mentioned. we learn from there that whenever you're creating whether it's a or whether it's the that's going to be used to mish together with the to someone from the of the has to happen. So even this diverting the water into the even that has to be so if it's used it's going to be pos if you use it's in that case that it's going to be okay said and I heard from that from here you can bring a this is another riot to this that is this Mishna is a riot Why is it a so two things number one the only time it's posit explains that would be possible is if the place that you put your hand your foot to divert the water was literally at the area of the meaning let's say this water is going to travel 100 ft and you went close to the source of the water 10 ft into this little journey that the water is going to take and you diverted it there and then 90 feet later it ends up because of the way you were able to position going into the that wouldn't be a problem. It would have to be the you would have to be literally right next to the diverted over there. If that's the case then I don't understand. You put your hand and because you put your hand there now the water goes into the cle. So the water entered the cle through. No it didn't. It went from your hand into the and went into the clay. So how is it? This if this is only where the did the it's never doing the what's doing the gravity is doing the makabes. You're going to divert it towards the and then Newton's law of gravity is going to take over. That's what's going to cause it to eventually drop into the so it comes out the is doing it. The ter is clears. So as soon as you divert with your hand or your foot or the into the it's considered that it's in the so was done again before I don't know how else you could understand this must be that had you know maybe there was no at all maybe you literally tipped it into the cle itself means when it's in the above the right if it's inside the of the we spoke that out in the beginning that's not that's not it's not inside that's for sure in the question is when it's in the ear space above the so maybe that's what happened over maybe it was inside the so you have no that that's so says rather says It says and suggests that it's traveling. If it's literally going to drip right into the it wouldn't pass the word. By the way, this mission that we just mentioned that if it enters the it's a problem. We know this that if it was going to be but if it was going to be not just that this was the said that it's going to be exhale. So either way the topic of is the what's that what's the one line what does that mean it says in the but rather and we learn from there that the caba has to be directly from the par but If after the dam was and then the was doing the went he was the from the he put it into the it's going to be possible the name of the is the reason it's possible is because it wasn't and based on that got involved in that when the does the he has to make Sure. Doesn't mean literally, but it should be on the ear the ear that's on top of the because being that there's if the dam is going to be in ear space other than the earpace on top of the it's going to come out that you were not directly from the par but from that because we look at the aver as a zip code for itself. So you're going to be taking it from someplace other than the thus you have to line it up. What if it's how do you know? So that's the that we just looked at. First glance when you learn the it certainly seems that the isab meaning there's a way that has to be done and just like there's a inab that the has to be the just like the has to be done with a just like that has to be done with a it has to be done There's a that has to be it's a sift cotton in which there was a hill you would find in that sim the how a kabala gets done kabala has to be directly stating that brisk was that it's not that way that the is not a or the way they say it in it's a but there's a second in inb as well and that is said that it's that just like you find when it comes to there's a when it comes to as well now didn't involve dam the carbon involved And as we've spoken out many times that there were in every that parallel the so just like the with there was with a just like this with a by the would take the and he would put it into a that was the equivalent thereof of of the by he had to take the as well to the and with a carbon there was by a there's no dam so there's no but there's The co would take the and it would be mate on the is that if the wasb between the and when the took the same that you have in our writ you have as it relates to said I don't understand of pass when it comes to when it comes to there's no there's no safer there's no mock from where the kamita has to be done so or that the cababola of the should be done so that you can now say that being that it was so I didn't take it from the place I was supposed to take it from meaning if that it's not enough that the wasab it has to be from so where do you have that by that the equivalent thereof of the cabala has to be from the no it doesn't say that anywhere THERE'S LESS WHEN IT COMES to there that visual it's true maybe that there's a that defines meaning but there's another and that is that if the dam is there's a soul in the d meaning but it's also h is Get this clear. Dam can't be dam can't be lawn. Dam can't be also has a cab. And has a it's not it's akot in can't be. If the dam wasab that will make the dam possible. If that's the case, it makes sense that it should be by also because doesn't literally have a and it doesn't literally have a kabala, but it has the equivalent thereof. It has it has that's the equivalent of so if there's a equivalent thereof of so it makes sense that you should have as well. Forget if it's me that the has to be made then it doesn't make any sense by there's no so what does it mean that oh if it was I didn't do the from the right place there is no place you have to do the from but if it's so then already you can say all the technically apply to the as well so there's a concept of not literally figuratively So you could have this as it's possible you'll have the same exact as it relates to as well the very and they bring from the brisker that the briskerv had other just mention one of them and that is from so we know there was a specialist that was brought on on there was a specialy that that was brought on. The K would take a of the he put it into a calf and they would be m it how they brought it into the sten did it one way the did it another way that's the the famous or infamous comes into the so what happens papa if the cen had the and then it fell on the floor could he go quickly clean it up put it back into his or put it from there into the or could he not? What's the do we look at it as if it was from and if it was from it's going to be possible or do we look at it as if it fell out of it fell out of it's not said the I don't understand what does have to do with the it'sab so what's the when it comes to theus There was no maybe you'll tell me there is an equivalent there of of a you can maybe somehow but there's no there's no vice said that has nothing to do with it's in every carbon if it was it's ple but if that's true maybe you could apply it to other similar situations as well the point is it's IN THE PER SE. SO IT'S to say that just like when it's becomes possible. So maybe the regarding the was looked at as so if it was from there maybe that would also be possible. But the point is it's it's in the dam it's not in the and it's for that reason the clar maybe you should have it by the you shouldn't have the question is what's the to this mean you learn the it's very mash that way I hear but but the is not that way you learn the it's pretty straightforward doesn't seem to be very ambiguous so what was the mean I mean where does this other side it's where does it the other side come from The shim they say over that the said that the is a terrorist but just one and that is that even though there's and is something that's going to come up again and again and again and again and again is something it's one of the themes in sash we're being exposed to it now for the first time but this is just where is launched it's something that's going to stay with us sobb is again if the dam pours from the not directly into is on the floor. the from the floor. That's what would be if the did the and it would be after the he did the right you did the so that's only a problem if it's but if it's after the in that case is it's going to be the says in parishes right in the beginning it's the benhabe And is bothered with the extra word. We're talking about So why does it have to say again? Why does it have to say again? Because how do you know if the dam fell out of the onto the floor after the you put it back in the that's why it says again so it says even if it was but not that's possible where it was after the in that case it's going to be caution so the saidur at first glance this gamorra is claim is how do you understand it? What would be the know that if the wasb after the dam should be possible that I need two words in the said if it was still going to be why would I think it's possible the whole I did the already so once I did the he asked a man on the street why is it that cautious what do you mean cuz I mean everyone knows cuz what's Okay. So if it was before the wasn't done directly from the part but if it was mean you did the once you did the you have no you could check off that box you did it already. So at that point who cares that it's born not that way says no it says two extra words if it was going to be it's just like where wasab becomes possible maybe if it wasab also becomes possible that it's not that way from the fact that the needed words needed a to tell me that that's true. You see from there that is so we kept on wavering back and forth meaning so is being there even on that big is dam can't be if it's being the dam becomes possible dam can be possible dam can be poss can be it's a in the it's in you would have thought that it's just is it both or is it only so if you go through it's not so clear but in they say there's two that number one it's and number two it's in meaning that says that it can't be meaning that is true that when there's It's also true however that is. That's why you find it in in like even in where there's no one of the that they bring I don't want to get too of it but one of the rias that they bring is from from the what's the issue? Why do you have to make sure the reader will take? Because if the D is going to go from the into ear space that's not above the it's going to come out there in you're taking it from the so they want to know when in that case where the D is in the not above the is that is that not you would think means it fell on the floor. Even if you want to be that is a is a entity for itself but could you look at it as it's not what's the issue why then is it a problem because see that there's a even when you don't have something to think about either a little bit more so we know that animals obviously the the animal is going to be ple what happens if after the so the animal's already a m right after the you went now and you ripped off the ear of the animal you gave the animal another has to be but it has to be that is by the which was which is how do you know this? It says by the carbon which is it had to be a couldn't be a it had to be a male. It had to be up to one year old. Then we learn from here it says and from there we learn that it has to be that way says clearly that it's not enough for it to be a that's what we need but it has to be a so if the animal would get a m in between the and the cababola that would be enough to knock out the carbon says what happens if something happens to the animal after the and when it came time to do this all there was was a kaz of left or the was going to be eaten the kale was going to be burned all there was was a kazay or you're still allowed to do if you have less than a you can't do but as long as you have a that's going to be enough what was all you have is Rashi says it sounds like the animal something got mut got destroyed something happened to the animal so it can't be missing a little part of its ear because that is enough to qualify it as a and if it becomes a that's going to be a problem how do you understand so the says I hear you must say that this themes the of is only true why is it only true because the is the and that's a you only know it by which is an example of saying by don't have the that animal became a bomb I if that's the case if that's the case how you going to understand the we had a that said clearly that all the even the still has to be a says the word is not going back on everything mentioned in the previously but rather it's going back on the last thing mentioned in the Pik says Ben it just has to be a Ben from the time of at the time of the and at the time of the kabala But if it had a birthday in between the word possible but if it became the possible it is possible when does an animal have its birthday. So you would think what do you mean at the day that it was born the next year. So if an animal was born at 4:00 in the afternoon, the next year 4:00 in the afternoon, that's when it celebrates his birthday. So where this animal was born the next so if it was born at 3:00 in the afternoon. So before 3:00 it's still you could do it after 3:00 you can't. So you did the before 3:00. You want to do the after 3:00. That's weird. That's weird. But as it relates to that's only true by Yeah, that's true. Even by that's they bring that to saying doesn't know how to learn this. How does an animal have a birthday after it died? It just doesn't make any sense. We're discussing it. Very good show poach. You worked out the lumbus and love this. It it plays itself out very very nicely. So the animal was sh at 257 and at 3:05 it's celebrating its birthday. Once you had you can't have a birthday anymore unless you get a save.