Zevachim 31

Today's is and we are 18 lines from the top of the so yesterday we began from the that mentioned a very important of and that is that the only time a is even if the had of during any one of the is if it was that matter. Meaning if other than the carbon was perfect. If however there was another that the ken had while he was doing the whether it was which is also of pigle or if it was a and the had of it comes out then there's another that this carbon is possible. It's what we call is that the carbon of course will be possible but there's not going to be then at the end of the there was a in the mention of agrees to the concept of however the only time there's an issue says is if first the other happened and then the of however the would first have the of I don't care if afterwards it Meaning if afterwards he had a once there was of at that point it's going to be when was the of he said if he first had the or if he first had the of then the brought him and had understand that even that said this that if The first had the is even if it was like the carbon is going to be that was only so even though he did the there's no in other words the carban is going to be pickle if however in the same the had both it doesn't matter if he had the before You're not going to have the it's that the carbon is going to be possible argued and said is going to be even the then went and brought namely although other chimed in as well had to understand's understanding in meaning when said that that once you have a I don't care what happens afterwards It's true even as what's the understood is based on a more macroy of meaning once the thinks or according to some says at that point it's automatically he said in the same breath I don't care said there's no such thing no one's going to hold in such an instance is when the two contradict each other. But when you know exactly that the person that's talking means no one's going to say that we disregard this was all yesterday's stuff. What then did mean when he said even by he meant where it was and was and the gave examples of it either the two or the two by an ordinary that also has or two by the regardless today's d picks up in's understanding in I'll leave that said that at first he had the is going to be pickled even if it was like even because of the says goes to the and he says tell me do you know what the proper in the Mishna is meaning the safe of the Mishna that segus And that discusses that is the safe of the I was just reading from the and his question was is the or is the quote is the case where the thought that he's going to eat a and then he thought and it's over there said but if it would be everybody would agree that if there was a even though the was first it doesn't matter it's not going to be pickled or maybe the right is the and even in that case holds toughest and certainly that's going to be the So what does the garra say? is saying that this idea the holds is that only true if the two that the had were two separate he said I'm going to eat and then he said I'm going to eat a being that they're two independent and there's no ear of despite the fact that it was like or maybe said Even when he said the difference is the makes it one if it's one it's less than so wants to know did only say we are these two at least are on some level divided it's two separate I don't care that later he said or is it even when he said much bigger where it's really one he was the two things even then he's going to say that was the shil that was posted right asked a third shay what would be according to where the kan had in mind to eat the same kazayas till now we're discussing a case one what if it was the same kazayas the kan said I'm going to eat this kazay It's going to be meaning it's going to be tomorrow and it's going to be it's going to be outside of the even there does say that if he said first and then that the is going to be piggle and I don't care that he said afterwards told wow great but I have an answer in this case is not going to hold was sitting there and he hears ley asked this question to his father rebi He is ready. He told him I mean it sounds I know where you got it from. You got it from the because we're discussing two and it sounds very much like if it would be one there the would be but he asked his father why are you so spoiled from the question isn't it very in the discuss only in the context where it was two different it sounds like if it was the same over there you're not going to tell me that was saying despite the fact that there's no stero and maybe even if he said kazayas who but you're going to tell me that one kazayas to eat tomorrow and outside because he said the tomorrow first it's one lion where can you say toughest region over here so told no no he's asking a very smart questionna what's going on over here so rebi went on to explain to that the way I taught you the mishna and the way I taught ley the mishna was So the way I explained the Mishna to you the question seems obvious meaning what's the grace of and why are you getting so excited but I gave Ley a different Gishna and based on Ley's Gishna he's asking very good and rebi explain the way I explain the Mishna to you where I told you two things so what are the two things the gumar is going to explain it's a very wordy garra but let's speak it outside I told you the Mishna both by kazas kizayas and so he had no question meaning the Mishna addressed and said there the said and said over there so it sounds like if it was one over there you wouldn't have but when I was learning with Ley I didn't tell himas I only told him one which one soar is going explain it but we'll talk it out right now. I just told them and then he heard the rabbis the were learning and they were saying not just they were saying so then rebi was lady was confused the mishna says and apparently from the even so now had a safic what was the is the ga that I heard from right meaning that only said And they're wrong by applying what's the difference is one maybe you don't see maybe they're right and maybe when Rebi explained the Mishna to me he left out he told me he gave you one example but there's a second example if there's a second example maybe there's a third example that's why Lady asked the question. So it's true. Rebi tells Rimbi the way I explained the Mish to you. I told you I told you. He had no m to think if we already addressed two address two cases. So if there was a third, we would have addressed the third. So the fact that the Misha didn't say it. That's right. Rab didn't say but Ley had a whole different ley only had and then heard the saying. So he had to decide that something's missing. Oh, so if something is missing, maybe two things are missing. Now, which one did Rebi tell Ley? Which one did he omit that caused Ley to now be unsure? So, we spoke it up and now the speaks up is if the one that Ley was. So, then that's not a because if he certainly said, he must have told him. And therefore, when he heard the saying even he had it that maybe Rebi was Messiah. So he thought that maybe he wasn't just Mashiah. One thing maybe he was Mashia or two things it says to Gmorra if when Rebi told Ley the Mishna he told him he didn't tell him which is why he had the Shiloh byas why didn't he ask him that also what was his he wasn't sure if said were right or wrong I heard from why they saying so why didn't he ask him he figured I'll ask one shil that I'll know both answers from you know if I answer would tell me this is all wavy thinking that is that there's no when you said the word twice but you just had the certainly if I only said the word once it's the same certainly over there you're not going to have But if I'm gonna if he's going to tell me that I'm still not going to be sure what is where it's one so therefore he figured let me ask him what is and like this he'll end up knowing the answer to both questions how did he make anything better why was lady's question what's so if would tell him by one certainly by he's going to tell him maybe it's only by one there's no so that meaning if essentially it comes out that ley had two questions and he's only asking him one so has he going to get the answer to everything he needs to know so gives a very interesting answer ley knew that by Rebi answering one question, he's going to have the answer. Maybe, but maybe not. But he felt that he'd be able to see in in Reb's reaction what is meaning he's going to look at the way Rebi is going to react. If Rebi is going to get upset, then he's going to say, "What are you thinking? What's the meaning of that should be toughest when it comes to one?" not tough meaning he know then must be by is not even toughest region that's why IS GETTING SO UPSET AT ME THAT'S why he's so annoyed for me even asking this question ify's going to answer in a galassin way he's going to say I hear let me tell you the answer so then wasn't such a crazy question why wasn't it such a crazy question by so either way Leave felt that by asking this question and combining that with Revy's reaction to the question, he'd end up knowing the answer to everything that he needs to know the answer to. So what's the bottom line? What's the right gear? That's how we started this. We started do you know the right gear in the Mishna? So apparently Rebi had two gear. He taught it to Ley one way, but he taught it to everybody else another way. He told Ley Kazayas and that's what threw Ley off. But the way he told it to and the way he told it to was and even by despite the fact it really sounds like one even though of what that was Ley's question answered Ley's question he got angry at him. He told him it's a good ley but what was the answer? The answer was over there. There's no question even there. The biggest in no one's going to hold that hold the same where he says I'm going to eat it tomorrow. And just because he said first and then he said doesn't mean that it's going to be there. Exhale but anotherishna was then in order for pigle to be for has to be of right. So if you had a it's but it has to be you need a says of so the would have to be an ofas in order for it to be a pickle. Additionally, the Gar is going to assume that when the Mishna said that of knocks out of why does it knock it out? because it renders the carbon. you would need that should also be a meaning he's going to eat and then let's go according to forget he had in mind he's going to eat that would not be like cuz just like you need a to make a carbon you need a of to make a carbon not to make it that it was like matter So you have to have a shear of what happens if he thought aas of half a not half the said it's to a sheer kaz but pickle by because he didn't have a kaz of pigle again in order to have a pickle there has to be a kaz of isle of and a kaz of is not pickle a kaz of in other words is not pickle. I I thought of no that knocks out the pigle also has to be a what if it was a half that was learned that from they're both they both to bear. So the Gumar is going to give us a few brain twisters, a couple of interesting questions now in terms of how you look at these although not easy could have predicted the would like this. So what would happen if the coin thought first? Then he thought he's really taking his time. You know what? Let me have another half of right. So he ends up having a man and a half his eyes of now. At first glance, you're going to tell me it's big and his chorus cuz he has a kaz of he has a half his eyes half his eyes. of but maybe not because when he had the of and then the we create already created a kaz of that doesn't have an ability to create a so now later when I add do we say now it could suddenly bear remitar to the to the oh my The pickle was sleeping. It got up and yeah, it works. So now the two is on and what you have is half it's going to be a regular argu if you had the two together maybe but was already you have no way to say this is an idea that you find in it's an interesting but it's what we know as when you're learning and bottom line is so you don't say so we know that the only time is if it's a so what happens if there was a and it got mixed up together with a that was a shady so a lma could be mama to turn it into a sheni. A sheni could only be trum to make it into ai aum which is a could only be to make it into a ra. So you have here a and a shi they're all so the is we look at the voice as a and it could be to make it into a even though the is with but at the end of the day you have a of even of what if you divided this you put half here half there both considered chenis now it's said that if after you divided them you would put them back together they would have a dinner of again. So what do you see that even though when they were divided they didn't have a they had a but now that you bring them back together it's just like you say so you could say over here but say how do you know maybe if you mix them back together they still have said I know they're from the if after they were divided each half would fall on it would make But if they would fall together of then they would make even but the bottom line is so just like I see it over there by I can know it by it's very different what's the difference so obvious what the difference is over there it started off as one it started off that has it got divided and now the pieces were put back together once it had a this is of so then you could tell me that Even though it got broken up, it it goes back together. It's But in our case, it was never it started off with you. It already became a that's you want to now that you can't do what's my same. So this is talking about where you didn't have a bay of a and a bay of a sheni. Here you had a half a bay of arish and a half a bay of a sheni. If it's we look at them as the we give them the lowest common denominator which is and they have a which means they can be that's and make it into my it sound doesn't sound like that even if later you would take this and you would add to it another halfas of so now you have a kaz of still the it would only be able to be mama truma and make it into so what do you see that being But when it started in this taru, it was a half a of so it only had an ability to be because it was the shi we therefore we looked at it as the but will be true even if later you will now say right maybe say that it just like we said it with regards to piggle the terret is no once it was mitarith and got its den only as you can later being this year make it into a but says that would be truth that's what the mission said maybe the mission is discussing a case where all I have is the and together they have a if you would maybe it'd be okay bottom line is we have what would be if he had then so had he stopped after you' have a pig in now that you had is it mashim or is it not mashim. So the gar now is going to bring came back from and he brought back a three and what this was had a version had a version and one of the versions it's going to we just said what would be if the had then afterwards he had two. So it's the same exact case just a different order. first then had a Bryce that said pigle there's no question over here it's going to be can knock out the and it this will be true even according to because what was issue that the once it was can't be that's because the is next to each It was but over here with the two would together had a different only over there that were first that makes the most sense because there you already had the the zas of pigle before the came into play. Meaning in this bar is going to tell you that in the ini case in the case where it was even though the were together but once you have at that point you're out of business what said was in other words the case of again it was and then it was turn back a pigle It's going to be in other words in other words said essentially was saying so before we go v something light is actually a lot lighter from here till the end of the death only 26 minutes in so just before we go v just one and that is the lady asked rebi a question levy was trying to understand shittas rahuda There are lighter contexts in if you want to go through the tough. This is one of the more difficult ones. But the bottom line is they were discussing that and Ley asked Rebi a question. His question was what would be according to eat the same exact but he first said and then he said are you going to say are you going to die? And Rebi said, "Wow, what a gavald." And then he answered the question. Rebby didn't know why it was such a galda. And had a whole rec of what le what caused Ley to ask the question. It was because apparently Rebi for whatever reason had taught Ley the Mishna differently than the way he had taught it to everybody else. And that's what prompted him to ask the question. The Gomorrah says that when Levy asked the question, he wasn't he knew there was a second question, but he was going to recognize from Reb's reaction to the question whether what the answer is to the other question. Right? That was the in other words Ley asks Rebai. He wasn't sure Rebi was going to react. Right? The Gmorra says maybe Reb's going to get really angry in which case he knows it was not a good question or the way Rebi did react. What did Rebby say? Rash's asking. So Levy asks Rebi a question. We're going to pick on the lightest note in this garra. Ley asks Rebi a question and he's bracing. How exactly is the grace of Rebi going to react to this question? What came to mind was the says we all know the first mission of That might be what we're learning. That might be the only that's more complicated than that. But either way, turns to the 15. I have 16. Before Ley was even able to tell Rebi what he thought the 16th that should have been mentioned in the Mishna was tells Ley from the way you're talking the question you were asking it looks to me like you don't have any brains so I mean this is you see why Ley maybe was a little afraid to ask the question because he wasn't really sure how Rebi was going to react that I don't remember where I saw but somebody tell this idea I think Rabbi was the one that said So there was a hug that people they would teach their and it was it wasn't so posh that you could just go and ask your rabbi a question because you had a brace for impact. You never know exactly what the reaction was going to be the says as follows. If a Reb is learning and his don't understand what the Rebi is teaching, you shouldn't get angry at them, he shoulder over until they properly understand. The same is true for the Yeah, I get it. No, no, no. if he doesn't what if teaching his and the not getting it and he says I'm sorry I just don't understand can you explain it to me again if he sees his getting angry the rabb says read the following what should I do I'm not such a bish I I need to hear it again that's what the says so this is a for ready and for the and by the way this relates to the as well. There's a there's a role that the plays in all this what's the to this? Of course the is a mission in Turkey office. The Mishna says a captain. A captain can't be a mal. So if someone's going to be a he can't be a captain. It's interesting on this sends you to a well-known gum in the base a very very well-known gum but it's a gar that's here. And the Gumar tells the story with a Mhammed whose name was B Rav Praa. And the Gumarra says Raf Prada had a Talmud that he would have to teach his learning 400 times to until he would finally get it. The Gumra says that one day raped sits down with his he says you I'm sorry but today I'm going to have to leave a little bit early. There's a mitzvah I have to do and as a result I'm going to have to leave early. Rep is teaching his Talmet again and again and again. The Talmet is not getting it. And the Rebi sees that the Talmet is is getting it less today than he usually gets it. So middle pray the stops and he asks him he says he says I'll tell you the truth. I have ADD. I mean he says that you know from the time you told me that you're going to have to soon leave I I suddenly lost I couldn't concentrate cuz I keep on thinking you're going to leave now you're going to leave now. So I haven't been able to concentrate. So I pray the let's start all over again. forget about the fact that I have to leave the mitzvah will be let's sit down and let's start from the beginning again and the garra says sat with him and he taught at him another 400 times at the end of the 400 times since fat with this came out and turns to and tells that because of what you just did the patience that you had the savylvanas that you had with this you're going to get an unbelievable reward and we're gonna give you a choice there's two options if you I'll give you 400 years of life of connected the 400 extra times that you taught this or if you want you can pick that you and your entire generation could be didn't have to think. He said I'd rather be me and my generation and the bas said that being that you chose that we're going to give you zu you're going to end up getting both. So says you want of how a reb supposed to be with his But it's a little bit of a you think that the pray was that's why there was a not saying it to the telling you how is supposed to teach that you would think is I don't know if it's a but it sounds like from that he's to aic discussion something interesting but I'll tell you in says what was the connected why was because of the fact that he spent so much time with his again and again and again he said because think sometimes that when he gives up of his time to his that he's losing out and sometimes it feels like he's losing out because if it he was able to sit with all day sit by himself who knows how much he would be able to sh and taka have to give up a when it comes to learning with that. But the is that when a person does he doesn't lose out when somebody's he never ever ever loses out gave up so much time for his and presumably for other as well. What was reward? He was like he didn't lose that time that time that they gave up. He got it on the back end. He ended up getting that time. That's the lesson of the rapa that you give up time. It's true. But you don't lose from doing you don't lose from giving up for somebody else. Could have thought he was losing. He wasn't losing. What came to mind was that we always speak out is actually says asks a very subtle but a very profound last. Why does he have to be his word? What the mission should say is he doesn't have to be he's sitting in front of he doesn't have to be he has to be says because when somebody teaches so he's forced to hit the pause button slow down a little bit to make sure that his are going to be able to understand so that this person is going to lose out because all that time that he's giving up for his is going to come at the expense of It's not that way. You're not only meaning qualitatively in the little bit of time that you have to learn from yourself, you're going to be that you could have never had. So there's a qualitatively in the of because a person does not lose out when he teaches. But it's not just teaching. It's all talks about it in in his but not only in the context of in the context of etc etc etc. Bottom line is so if somebody has he had in mind that dogs will eat the kum. So a is doing the and he has in mind that not he's going to eat but he has in mind that dogs are going to eat. So I agree with that reaction. So I'll tell you I saw he says something very why would he even think that he has a brilliant theor says that the a of the was shaped like a lion. So every single day if somebody saw them as the asa was shaped like a revo aska there's a bry that says that the isa was shaped like a kev like a dog that's ling was like an it was like a says that who built the first mikdavid and they came from who built the second base says that was like a califf. But the bottom line is is that the is looked like a califf. So you want to know why with standing by he sees a maybe that's why it happened. But the bottom line is so he has in mind but not so does that make it pickle or does not not make it. It is pickle based on a So what do you see that when dogs eat the context over there is they're eating but when dogs eat it's considered the Torah says it's also considered if the had in mind that fire is going to consume the not but regular ordinarily ordinary fire of is going to consume the you going to tell me that's also of why you see the say you see that is considered okay yeah we learned it sounds like even if you're of it's not so which is not certainly an ordinary shouldn't bear the you see I hear that's not what it means just like because it says doesn't mean it's considered you say so too shouldn't be considered I disagree if a person would have in mind that is going to eat and the or that he had was big. How come I the reason starve? Because he never used the had that two are going to eat a so each is going to eat a half a kazhas. So he had in mind but not via one rather you say at the end of the day was for but no one is going to eat a said you can't bear if half of it sounds like it's just because half is and half is what if both halves would be and it would be two entities Just like the Mishna's case, the Mishna's case, the entities are here would be two different. It sounds like it would bear says it is. So if the had two, it's what do you see from the because the even has a meaning that should bear either two entities. Two entities don't bother me. So two entities don't bother you. If they're both it's not in other words it's going to be has to be what would be if the had in mind that is going to be so ordinarily that's not an why here should it be ordinarily it's not so if you had in mind that the bus is going to be you think it's But maybe over here it's different because we we're has no says it usually took longer than to be. So maybe we're just like doesn't have to. So to the doesn't have to issue is but if it was it wouldn't even start says Maybe the Mishna is talking about where the was going to be. It was a very big fire. So was going to consume all the and that's the only time there's that the two could bear and in such a case would be because the does have to be that's the definition of inra or let's speak. So we had here a what would be if the kan had in mind that two khanim are going to eat the gaz. So mash's piggle has to be a of kaz but he has in mind not that one ken is going to have eat the entire kazay rather two khanim together are going to eat the gazay is that considered a mashab's pickle or is that not considered a mach's pickle and the garra came out the ma that it is going to be considered a mashab's pickle. Now the em is if you think about it it's a very very big I mean had a ri from the but it's a very bigish the reason it's a is because ordinarily if two people each one eats it's not to usually means one person has to eat the it has to be but you need one person to eat the so what's that if the two khan should eat the kazayas together that that's considered a just like it means food and it means chewing it means that's always a definition and if two people together do it should be and that was good rather had a but that two of have an ability to bear in your has a to this and that is that it's familiar with so what about holds people forget that but we pass what does that mean that means all the when it comes to for example it's only with regards to the malus carbon But as it relates to that raw is there's no if somebody eats less than a is he is less than a was only said with regards to the what's so for example you have a mitzvah to eat matzah back in the day to eat the carbon what would be if somebody doesn't have a matzah he only has a matzah should he eat it or is there no point Do you say that just like there's a concept of when it comes to so when it comes to mitzvah or maybe no by says you have but when it comes to mitzvah I say over there you don't have that is the famous of they all say and it's a from the brings a well-known long that discusses the difference between the 40 years that served as versus the rest of the time when was no longer. So the Ber says there was one of the things it says is there was a would get a some people couldn't even finish the but the point is every person would would after passed away and he was no longer there was a curse in the and when they would divvy up these each would get a pull get a tiny bit less than as a result they would go away they'd say I'm not going to fight over a pull the they would and they would take what what it was that they wanted. So the gumar says that after passed away there was a in the and as a result when they were divided amongst the b in the mish every would get very very little less than so that no one said I'm going to fight for less than a kaz they would go away what's going on why did they go away from the less than because they couldn't be the mitzvah anyways BECAUSE IT WAS BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO TELL ME SO WHY WHAT'S THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALL IN. They want to be out ask and say that being that it's not the real mitzvah and says it's that he held there is but that's then how could the forgotten is not sure if this if they should have been all over it they definitely should have wanted it incidentally the says that asked this to who was the of Presburg of course and he brings the terret says says come out the same exact terret in his piece and says come out the same exact terret in this that was speaking out right now and that is you have to ask another how is it possible that when they divided the mountain they did it in a way where nobody got a mitzvah forget if the mitzvah was soaz They should have said not everybody can get. I'm sorry. We need to make sure that everybody's going to get a kaz. What do you mean everyone get this is dead on arrival? Well, how you getting a pull? They should say that we divide it by so that every person from all other ordinarily the mitzvah is I have a mitzvah to eat. I have a mitzvah to eat from the carbon. There's no cayenne that had a mitzvah to eat from the There's no K that had a mitzvah to eat from the Which has the mitzvah? There's no you you can't point to say you're the one maybe you're the one. There's no that wakes up IN THE MORNING WITH that he needs to go now and he needs to eat this. What then is the you have to make sure that IT'S YOU HAVE TO make sure that the food is going to be eaten but the is not on the it's what the says it's on the says it in his all the say it that way but it's the same that there's no on the on the that's how you'd say it in circles but again it's that the food should be eaten amongst these in the base of in the mish could have been hundreds of kayan they have to make sure that they're going to eat it but there's no that's one individual person. That's why you know why as long as it's going to be eaten I'm going to fight it's going to be eaten anyways I don't have to worry about that's why they didn't need that because you don't need that each individual as long as amongst it's going to be eaten then in itself is going to be enough you know is if someone was that together is considered piggle it's a says inel It needs means one has to eat. That's usually true. But when it comes to that's not the what are we discussing discussing being that in the context of that's not the way it works over here is going to be different. Let's see if we can finish the incidentally that from he says a tremendous regarding he says that even though we know but only if you're cooking your because always means so he wants to say that if somebody cooks it could be it's a problem that's what the truth is discussing it's a that's why it's Either way, breaking ground there. So the Mishna said that so what's it's caution meaning it's not now the were the sounds like what if it was if you would have in mind not to be mocker to eat it. It sounds like it would be a even though the sounds like so we seem to have a stereo on the one hand the only time you can if it's but then again it sounds like is a problem but is not a problem is save the missions is remember said the racial is re and then the middle is is now we're going back to right that's this we had it ready a few times argues with this he says that's considered so this is true because that line is going you don't have to say such a you don't have to say that the last line of mission is going according to the what's the again the it sounds like is a problem but is not a problem I is not just don't make that don't say don't make the it's Okay, we're contrasting between and says myash. What's the meaning? What's the last line? If the is the whole you see that in the mission you can be of two and if the is that and are not just the line of the what the Mishna said maybe that's the maybe that's the I know that line from the mean that whole last line is superfluous why what's the Last line is not I can prove it to you from the mission because right you can't bear it says then certainly is not. So what's the last line? In other words, the last line is that you could bear I understand the last line of the mission. But if that's not true, you're telling me the mission is not rebel because the race is not the rebel. The mission is going according to so what's the last line? What exactly is the is that what what the mission say is not the is that is we know that the mission said is this is that anyone that's been paying attention for the last hour knows that. What is the is that is not you know sometimes maybe the is what the said that is not so I can know that cuz you can't bear with certainly you can't bear says no that's not logical it's because it's But over here where the two are, it's true that the second and it's less similar to the first, but what they have in common is they're both I would have thought that maybe here it Ultimate star.