Zevachim 51

Today's daf is and we are 15 lines from the top of so we're knee deep in the middle of a sugo. It's a rather diggery. It's discussing certain din that relate exclusively to kach. So everybody knows that one of the ideas that permeates is made but as we saw that rule is not unique to it's something that applies on some level maybe to say to in fact What about that? What about that? What about could that beer? You see where the part of the might come in? Either way, this is all discussed here on of now we already went through the first half of the which is the longer half. We now have to go through the second half of the suga. The shorter half albeit not necessarily the lighter half. So let's just take inventory of what it is we have as it's very important for the saf of the so the rule is the brought two to this roa said that it's learned out from the para of the specifically the of the ra it's learned out from the asham Specifically the way the mentions that the of the had to be is the to that was from the fact that the had to say that the has to leave it soften and you can't learn it with being that itself is is the refers to that as which takes us back to where the learned of by the from which itself I only know from the parallel and finally first thought that there was a ultimately the gum was the and the way explained the gum that being that we thought we had and ultimately we said we don't have where we're left with is that we just don't have and if that's the case it remains a suffix. So again when it comes to the vernacular of the matters you go through the flu flow of the and as it relates to being that's something that is left as a suffic so the gmorra said could it would emerge from the gam is it's a wrong said yeah said no said yeah because we learn it from the fact that the carbon could be brought from money which is something I know heish from the carbon which in itself I know from the Bottom line is according to was the reason he was because he holds and the original is as a result it's not you can't be anything from there and the way the gam seems to refer to this or This exchange is as according to according to either it's not or at the very least we're not sure whether it would be what about could it be so the Gmorra said yeah in fact we had two mccaris to this Ramy and Ramy Bama learned it from the that you have by the could it be the Gmorra said yes how do I know it I know it from what's the so we got it right on version 2.0ish You know meaning can't be to its own type to another it could be it could be to its own type certainly it'd be able to be and then finally could be that was the easiest part of yesterday's daf was one one line with a one-word answer the said take us again what's the recap as it relates It's as it relates to the answer is yeah. How do I know that? and for that said again. What's now the more general recap and then we'll dive into the second half. You don't know if it could be whether it could be and whether or not that says is a take either way. This is the first half of the second half of the is going to discuss. And then finally, I think we already need an exhale, but either way, inhale. If something is based on in the world of it or not says yes and I know it from aimer what's the which you can't use to learn a that I know meaning how do I know that yet that could be. And how do I know that papa was the one that holds? So which could be learned out from right. So certainly then the should be that it should be meaning which can't be learned out from could be so certainly which could be learned out from should be able to be now but the says This is not posh. Why is it not posh? This is all true according to the Omar that holds like or you could have also said but the point is if you hold like papa what does it mean you hold like you hold on if you hold like so then it's true that That doesn't hold or at the very least I don't know if it's well then I don't have the basis for the so my so then you have no and the says that's true according to that don't have aar And the bottom line is according to that it's going to be a take. So what's the if you hold like that then would be what's the in what way is better than I'll tell you why because I can't learn from I can learn from so which I is because I can learn it from it could be so which I could learn from certainly it should be able to be but that's all true if you hold that could be but if you hold that can't be or at the very least I don't know there's no whether it could be well then you don't have and says according to that mand. And again, who's that mandr? The one that holds according to that mandar the name was the is going to be a so either the answer is yes or the answer is in other words it's a moving along. Could it be says I know from that I can't learn from how do I know that right still what's the when it comes to it's how do I know that or the Gar could have also that right we had we spoke this at the end of yesterday's how you know that is but the bottom line is that can't be learned out from a yet it could be so if that's the case which is more Then the I could learn from right. So certainly it should be so could be certainly aimer should be able to be what's the in what way is better than right you would think is better than but in this is better than why because can't be learned out from whereas can be learned out from so which It can't be learned out from then certainly which is it could be learned out from certainly it should be able to be as it relates to where you have a could it be here the answer is unequivocally yes. Moving along So if I have it says the answer is yes and now I know it. So I'll bring to prove that can't be learned out from right. How do we know that? Like we said earlier, now what did we say earlier? This is very important. How do we know that? We learned it from the fact that what was the can't be yet. So, which could be its own type certainly it should be able to be but the bottom line is that can't be learned out from right we know that from yet it could be we know that or well if that's the case than itself which is more again in this than why because it is how do I know that certainly it should have the ability to be says the answer is yes now I know it I know from what certainly then to be able to be. Now how do I know has the ability to be I know from the fact that so then be able to be and once I know that then I know that tell me this is not fun but either way says the yeah from the fact which itself I know from the fact that this is aimer. This is what we call a double. Why is it a a double? The reason it's a double is because we're going to learn now that and the is learning from something that itself I only know from a so I'm going to know that the with from which itself I only know from so I have a right now that's going to teach me what from the fact is so far it's a regular I'm learning that from the fact this is where it becomes because how do I know that is I know that from the fact that makes like this observation right this is like A super kahrime is the gumar. This is not just a super kavimer. This is a super duper kohimer. F the way you read the garb. This is not a kohimer. Ben kheimer. This is a kimer. Benoy by the way. Right. This is aimer benoimer. Why? Because if you think about it, this is a triple kimer. So why is it a triple kimer? Again, we're trying to learn that is right from a den is that is how do I know it? I know it from this is the first initially understood what's that if then what was the second why is it aimer because how do I know that is I knew it from aimer so I'm making a from something that I itself know from a how do I know from the fact calls this I think it's Why? Because what's this end product? What are we learning? What are we learning? We're not learning. We're learning that. So, at the end of the day, when you're going to go and you're going to you're going to have it's going to teach you. I have no idea. It's going to teach you in it's going to teach you some sort of inch. So I'm going to have a and you're going to say you can use this. So you're going to say what do you mean? Why not? I don't know. Maybe I'll tell you no for sure I could use this right now because then certainly should be able to then you say how do you know? So what do you mean? Because if then certainly should also be able to be. So really when you THE END PRODUCT WHICH I'm learning via you're going to end up with a triple the I'ming now which I only have the right to which itself I know from the this is not aimer this is a what the wants with this is stop asking semantics we're the asking like aasha so the way rash learns the that's the way we're going to explain It's actually but the way explains the means to ask you who says you have the right address right and one of them is maybe holds that you could also be able to do but that's something you're allowed to do incidentally not to interrupt but we always speak out from the say that and it's not just highle 13 but they correspond to each other the first the first the second the second and we know that the said that the first of the is kale and kale say is the of and that's why different that when you can imagine and can you imagine you learn such a it's my but either way says the is not just aimer this is aimer and you could you even dash in such a verses you're right. fact that the fact that can't be learned out from you only know and then it's going to be not you could do that as the you have to say the is not from where's the from you holding You can get this by heart. It's from which can't be learned out from a heck. How do I know that? which is something that you're allowed to see right can't be from which I know from the kab is directly from hkish if it's directly from hkish then that's very good then it's just the kabok we cut out the middleman so if you cut out the middleman this is a regular kabr ben kabr and if it's a regular kabr ben kabr so if that's the case That's something you're allowed to do. So what's the bottom line? Could it be the terror is? Yes. So what do we still have left in the category? Could it be or could it not be or could it not be? I'll bring you a and thiso is from a live. So one piece of background information for this Mishna and that is that we know whenever you talk about an a right is an animal that is dead but didn't have a kosher says now let eat from the meat of that animal. So in the world of Na features very prominently but we know that is also an avatoma. It's a form of toma. If somebody comes in contact with an aa he now will become just like a mace is a source of toma and a sher as a source of right there's different types of toma. So a is fact it's a in the world of it's actually a high ranking form of so is on the one hand it's also it's also a form of toma. What about so what we need for our is that of an is but it's in a very unique way it's so in the event that somebody eats this which wasn't allowed cuz you're not already but if somebody ate the then is it's going to be now but basically what's going on in this is what happens if somebody an animal in Trafa, right? So somebody shacks an animal. You found out that the animal that you shed was a tra. The question is, is the met the animal from the tumasa or not? Similar shila. What would be if somebody would it be from the tumas? If somebody did Malik in the BTO with a and then it was nim would it be from the now can't eat it in all these cases reason is because forget about it's a I'm sorry forget about it's a trade so you want you be able to eat it you wouldn't be able to eat it but the question is from the standpoint of the what's it's a big that's what's going on in that come on we'll just go through the relevant parts says says the what would be if the and then it turns out that this was a it's not why is it not because in as much as the animals are and the is not being it's not being but at the same time it is considered a malika and being that it's a malika it's not And if it's not an so it's not going to be what type of would it ordinarily bear it says that this says no it is said I know that the of the is not whose is the we said is which we said is a high ranking form of yet is that if you and is that even though you're not let it but it's not going to be so as it relates to whose is not so because it's So certainly is that if you're going to go ahead and you're going to if you're going to now this is from and he said just like you find just like which has the ability to be what's that? If you did it, it's going to be considered which has the when it's a situation where it's certainly there's no question that it's going to have the ability to go ahead and be So says I hold that and you know I know it I know it based on a and a what's the so the piece of information that we start with is the starting point of this is that is mah a tra from magasa So if somebody and it turns out that it was a tra is that as much as you're not allowed to eat the of this but at the same time there's not going to be any well if it's true for it has to be true for if it's true for it has to be true for what's the it has to be true for as well because the veil of is less than of the is which is only and if it's true for which true as well. So just like says hence my opinion my is that it's not going to be again how do I know it I know and how do I know I know it now there's one kasha if it's bothering you it's a good kasha asks that why do I have to learn Malikas from and then from just like I learned directly from why can't I learn Malikas also directly from meaning we're saying that the fact that is not is which is a huge deal right you think but you need that maybe you just cut out the middleman. Maybe I can learn directly from with the same exact that I learned from it's a good works with this but seems to be that I know from which I know that The Misha continued and the said that we don't need for right now holds that at the end of the day there's no way you can learn Malikica from and the reason is because how do I know I know from and by there's no such Musl problem because if You're going to want to now take which I know from and extend it to a malik. You're going to say one second by you don't find a malik. So you're going to run into even though this is another leg of the trip, right? has no problem if you want to learn it straight from but the minute you're going to apply it further via to if you're running into again this is the but from mayor no problem with the fact that you he just says this problem but the nobody seems to have a problem with it and if that's the case This would seem to be a a good but the is and the says there's no there's a big sha how to be gus this next words of the gumar we'll read it the way we have it inside what does this mean it's the on and rashi says that the only way to really appreciate what this line of gar means you have to learn a garam The sneak preview tok the part of it that we need for right now is says that really the mayor is based on a lim this mayor is actually based on a in other words you're telling me that you see you're assuming that had no other this is probably his now mayor rather said it right but if you go through the masakamura at the end of the Okay, the gumar brings up stating that the way the says that really if you look at the sugulator you're going to see that it's based on a what you're assuming in the that when you're holding you don't know yet about so you want to tell me that is not really based on a lingu and is based on what he sounds like he's based on and that is what he still can't learn anything. You know why? Because because at the end of the day, what is this? What is this? You want to learn Malik? From where? From that's and you learn from where? From which is this is not it's being that it's this is not going to be a problem. Now then it's like this at first glance you would say this even has nothing to do with the mandar that holds the holds right this has nothing to do with why because everybody agreed that you need that the last and should both be the was do you need even the original des you need him to be kim or he could be right that was the shil over here But in terms of the last lame and a lame right now I'm going to learn a a mamino lamade do I need those both to be kachum of course everybody seemingly holds that you would need that those two should be kach and over here you don't have that because the the final product is tak that's a very it's learned from which is so the last forget the original malamade the the SECOND MALAMADE FOR SURE HAS TO BE KIM THAT'S TRUE I'll leave it the guly that's not something you have over here and if That's the case stating that if you go through that rashi the first rash in the end of Rashi Rashi says Rashi according to the gra that what you have to go as well over here you don't have to lean on in other words it sounds like from Rashi Rashi learns that the was really in that which would mean then that the way Rashi here is understanding the is the mand holds. just need that the final product to be the he would hold that you need even the second as relates to the first it sounds like maybe that's also included in that mand that holds but from the way he learns here the holds wouldn't even need the second to be this not that way but the bottom line is this is what would emerge so what's the recap of the segment of today's it's in whether you hold like it's in whether you hold if you like and you hold on then there is a to be had from and if that's the case just like then certainly if however you hold like I don't know if well then I don't know if everybody holds that how do I know I know that of course from aimer it's aimer not and as it relates to whether or not could be what emerges from the mas of the is certainly the way learned the what emerges is that we have no we thought we had a from in the Mishna regarding malik peninsula But at the end of the day, we actually have no one way or the other. So, we're almost done. We're up to the final and really by far easiest leg of this. So, what's the last part that we still need to address? And that is speaks. So, three of them we're not going to know. So, uh, right, it's good news and bad news. The bad news is we don't know. The good news is we don't know. So, we could go right there. But regardless, three of them we don't know, so we don't even have to talk about it. One of them we do know, and there's a which one. So, I'm going to give it away. Spoiler alert. The thinks now that it knows whether it could be that's the one that the feels at least one which should be able to be. Okay. So what is this from? is from the of so we know that apostles not let it be put on the if however it touches sometimes yeah sometimes not right they're from but there is a concept of so the context of this that we're discussing right now is why did say why is it that if you have dam that was right dam becomes ple So if you have that was and then it touched the so it's not put on the if you put it on the it's going to be so why say the lad is the reason is because the the so if it's by so what is this it's saying if it's the way it is by it's the way it is by the as Kaz know that is right because now what does it mean is says it's referring to the buser of a schlotman. If you sh the carbon schlutman and you leave the buser overnight it doesn't become possible. Why it doesn't become possible? Um because you're allowed to eat the buser for two days and a night have a whole another day to eat it. So it's partial that buster doesn't become nipsolina. As a result, let's stop right here. So you see over here when it comes to the right, it's pretty straightforward from the fact that I could learn from that's a double. We interrupted the program. Let's continue now with the words of the What about know that if you have something that's because there's no right because there's no there's no when it comes to Obama. So if there's no when it comes to when it comes to a carbon either how do you know that when it comes to because you find it when it comes to so that's a how do you know that if you have you have a carbon that being that we know that a carbon pigle requires a sauce ple but that's why you There's no but we know there's a how do you know that in the event that apostle did the also says I know it because it's only it's only avoid that meaning not it's negate Right. There's certain you could do when it comes to a carbon. What type? So over there you have the same idea that it's right. Originally we were talking about where the carbon here we're talking about where it's the same. Therefore, it's going to be okay. Says the what do you see from here? You see from here, right? You see from here that you see from here that where do I see it from? Which part of this from now? We're going to learn it the way learn it. That is the says one second. Could you learn from this whole lem over here? Specifically learning lid from lumbim and lumb from lumbar is very hard to comprehend. And the reason is because what was the the z of this drussa the what was the original malam of this drusser doesn't absol because it's allowed to eat for two days and being for two days it's not subject says could you learn from says you're right that really the is from a it says in and a lot of going on over here. And really all these are predicated on these dring that they're predicated on these dras the whole is like it's not a real lem and being that it's not a real lem. So it's for that reason it doesn't bother me so much that how you learning from because at the end of the day this whole lim is just a it wasn't such a li in the first place and it's for that reason it's not okay if that's the case what's the you can't be anything if the just said that it's coming really from and it's not something that's the is If you trust only that means there's really no limit to be had. If there is no limit to be had then you can't learn anything and if that's the case the said could it be WE SAID EVEN that even that one you can't be and as promised this was the easiest leg of this. So when it comes to the answer is I don't know we don't know it. We don't know if it could be. We don't know if it could be and we don't know if it could be it would maybe make sense to what we just did. But I think we're going to go time is of the essence. Moving along. So we can take a exhale now for real because we're on to the next. So turning back to the Mishna. The mission began feels like a long time ago. Specifically, part of the mission we need any that was left over they would pour on the so first things first what exactly is the so we know there was a little platform on the bottom of the misb it went on two sides of the misb it went on the m side of the msb and it went on the toughen side of the msbah mandar did not have any sight that's the first thing that we have to know what she Leftover D doesn't mean leftover dam. There's still some leftover D. Can't just take the leftover D and pour down the sink. There's a that had to be done with it. Is called is a real is it is it but it's a real and it had to be poured in a specific place. Where was it poured? So the Mishna says as relates to it was poured on the not on the proper. That's where you did the you did it on that little platform on the bottom. You did it on the which it was done on the that's where it was done on the western now just if you're trying to visualize it. So in this case right we're talking about the power and the so the is for all done inside the so the or in this case the he's exiting the and he's walking now towards the and he's going to do the now when you're walking from the into you're traveling to mis which means which part of the misbeh are you going to encounter The first the mira part, right? You're going west to east. So the first part of the misb that's going to hit you is the western part of the misb, right? That's just simple math. So the western part of is the part that's going to hit you first. If this was to pour it on the western part, well then clearly clearly it's the first that hits the we'll see that's part of the here in the another thing that we need to mention is that the mitzvah of we're saying it's but was negas had a mitzvah stating that the doesn't mention by all carbon theory mentions mentions the mitzvah by one carbon by the carbas stating that it mentions it several times by the in fact if you go through the the segment of five times the mentions the concept of the terra mentions it by the terra mentions it by the terra mentions it by the brought and then the mentions it by the if he chose to bring a kisba and if chose to bring. So by all those the mentions, okay, another observation and this is going to lead right into the gam that three of the five times that the mentions this is the last part of the by the way three of the five times that the mentions the says that you have to do it on the that's what the says you do on the other two times says just do on the three times the emphasizes is which three times the same as the fancy the as it relates to the regular mundane the regular ordinary man on the street they were just say you should do this on the one last thing so again we know this but there were two right there was one that was in the very often referred to as the there was another msbak that was in the very often referred to as the but these two have different names they wear different hats depending on the right so the was called because it's on the outside of the it's also referred to as it was made of kipper right it was made of copper it's also referred to as the because it's where all the were brought it's where most of the zikas were bought it's sure where the carbon was brought but the bottom line It's also referred to as oil. The misbeh is the it was made of gold. So it's called the MB and the thing that was brought on it was the not the only thing because there were certain that were done but the was the henceforth it's referred to also as the again five mentions of all by the three times it says implying that it has to be on the other two times it simply says why do we need all these and all these mentions and this is the balance of the that's going to go right into tomorrow's says the my time of what right we just said a lot says the elite how do you know that the be on the westernite maybe instead of it being on the western side it should be on the northern site again we said the is only on two sides of It's only on and but that it was on the like the Mishna says maybe it's in the other one says theory it's because the Pik says regarding the paracia oh so we know which is it's the one that's facing the entrance way of the who the which one is facing the entrance way of the It's the perfect accent. You know it has to be on the it says that by the had to be on the we learned from there that it had to be on the as opposed to on the there was no but we only know it because the again said in real time if you're being and you're holding and handling the power of he would know that yet. So right now we know maybe I don't know I'm not sure says it says a second time and that it says by the parallel that's to teach me that there was no and then it says again and we learn from there which means that any carbon that was brought requires on the so not only which is where it says it but really it's true for all the different as well that you're always going to do. Oh yeah know how do you know that's what it means? Maybe what it means is maybe what the is saying that third mention of is coming to tell me a different maybe it's coming to tell me that should be meaning maybe it's not even teaching me a regarding but rather what it's coming to teach me is that the of The carbonos that were brought on the would have to be on the of the right maybe this last mention of which is coming to be something is not coming to be but maybe what it's coming to be is that there's a den that the rico has to be on a of the msbak that's kagodite I mean just like has to be on the maybe the original has to be in an area that's said I don't need a for that because I would know that meaning I know you're right you're saying is good that has to be but I don't need a for that something I can know from what's from which is not require is where do you pour the not only on the that has the but on the itself. So the initials of let's say right the initials certainly it would have to be require said I'm going to tweet the little differently. So it's the same with one those were the words of but he's adding also requires that it's also what does that mean tomorrow we'll talk about this certainly it should require what does come to teach me to teach me that has to be that not he's coming to teach me it's coming to teach me that the is true not only about the but it's true for as well all the require of so the bottom line is going back to the it says three times it says it by the it says it by the and it says it by the and the question is why does the have to tell to three times and the garra answered. The Gmorra said that the first teaches me that it has to be on the not because I had just said I would have thought and by the way we're talking about the whose was on the so I certainly could have thought that should also be on the second mention of that it says by the was coming to teach me there's not even a by the which by the way once I know the second it makes the first one not relevant. anymore, right? But I only know the second one after I have the first one. And once I know there's no when I need the first anymore. True. I get the but the same time it's a clutch because I only know the second one once I know the first one. And finally the last mention of is coming to teach me that all have a mitzvah. Maybe it's coming to teach me that has to be on that I know anyways. instead I know by the way just to close the loop just to mention one point when the is suggesting that maybe the whole has to be connected that's what the last mention of oh you say is coming to teach memor says I don't need that I know that's not true for all carbanas right had to be on the four corners of the so you're going to have that's not going to have it's really that's where it's and in fact if you look at the leng said it's going to play itself out more in tomorrow, but again just to be accurate either way says the so these are the threeas that we learn from the three mentions of says what was the first it says and it's going to teach me that it has to be on the as again in real time at this point of the we think maybe there is a but the is coming to tell me that that's not where it's supposed to be. How do you know that in real time? If you think there might be, how do you know that when it says it's coming to tell me as opposed to maybe what the is coming to tell me is that if you want to do it on the you have a right to do it on the Why would you think not? because being that the wherever you do the so that's where I have to do the as well. SO MAYBE NOT TO BE ANYTHING JUST TO BE THIS ITSELF to tell me that if you want to do the that's something you're allowed to do but the says no it's not true the say you do it is already a reo for the mean if you're telling me that if I have one mention it's being it's maybe only being well guess what I already have one is the one that's on the outside just in the direction of the entrance way to the so I already have a what then is this coming to do it's coming to tell me not only I can do it on the which I know from but that I have to do on the hence in real time that was that first what was the third we skipped the second what was the from a perspective, this is the easiest. If you're learning in Brisk right now, um if you're learning first, maybe not so much. But either way, what does this mean? Because if you're going to tell me that what it's just coming to teach me, what do I need this pic for? to tell me the that the has to be on the if the carbon was brought on the then it's that would have to be the wants to know why do I need the third mention of to tell me that of that carbon has to be on the which carbon are we talking about do you remember the first was the pariah the second one was the The third one was the the was the was born. The was brought on. So the is being brought. If the is being brought maybe sounds pretty dead on arrival, you're going to tell me no. Right. It's a lot of fun. Maybe just like the carbon who was on. So maybe the carbon who was born should be brought meaning maybe when it comes to it's always do maybe that is the gather of how works but the said that also doesn't work. Why? Cuz ain't no it's a nice but once you had the second Russia that says there was no well then it can't be if had it only said it means because there is no right that's easy math it's not if there's no and the says pou it can't be poured on the thus what is it coming to tell me it's coming to tell me pour we just made There is no what is it coming to do? It's coming to tell me and is that all it's not only these that are being discussed here had to go on the we're going to go a little bit we're going to save the raid for tomorrow the price of miss we said what's The third mention of the it's coming to tell me that but maybe it's coming to teach me this is extra at this point I don't see what it's coming to tell me as relates to I have no it's coming to teach me something else what's something else but the doesn't mention oh yeah know maybe no maybe what's coming to teach me is that the should have to be leasite now we said Which carbon do you find at has to be the side. It can't be all carbon, right? Cuz the katas, for example, is at. But let's say the right, let's just pick one cuz it sounds like that's the one's picking. So, let's pick. So, the has to be say maybe that's what it's coming to teach me. And by the way, that would be the right a play on the carbon maybe. And it's coming to tell me that the has to be which is the truth by the way, right? So, maybe that's what this is coming to teach me. So, the gamur says, It says and being that he says it can't mean that. So what does this mean? So there's a long rash here. Rashi says like this that if all the P was coming to teach me was that the has to be then it should have said that you should go ahead and you should put the dam not the would mean the carbon also it's the but you didn't have to mention the word the word sounds like it's a every that WENT UNDER AND IT CAN'T BE TRUE regarding the why not because the already you're dead on arrivals are crashing because the had to go on the FOUR WHICH MEANS THAT by definition it even went on again is only on it's not on so by definition it's going to end up going on that so it can't be that all is going to have this den or all that go on have this then because it's for sure not going to be true. So, how could you tell me that would be good IF IT SAID BUT IT says I mean that it says it has to be something that's every single carbon that goes on the but I'll tell you why I'll tell you why there was such a said oh I'll tell you that what it means is that the of the had to be connected I why does it say the word Because had I not said the word I would have thought I would have thought that you know where you do the the so you do it on the right I would have thought that it's literally on the now that it says what it means is not literally on theite But it means on the so what it how that because it's going to trickle down to the gaga. So that's where it's being in the but the bottom line is had it said oh I would have thought you have to do a mamish on the which not true right it's but at the same time it's not on the actual it's on the wall of it's a it's on top of the gag it's going to trickle down to the gag and as a result that's why the had say m but either way again going back to the said how do I know the third mention of l el l el l el l el l el l el l el l el l el l el l msbach is coming to tell me what is coming to tell me that all carbon had a maybe he's coming to teach me the when it comes to the carbon so right how was both and they were in a very similar way in an eerily similar way they both said that I don't need a to teach me this I know from aim But we're were a little bit different, right? Was first. He said I don't need a to tell me that what that has to be I know from that's not requires. So the right it's it's mentioned just adding the word not but it's much the same thing right which is not requires so certainly the which is requires said it similarly that's what he adds one word not only is it not it's not That's the price. It says what is the community and again said which is not certainly which is said which is not and it's not what is what's the difference between being doesn't sound like is being too much on the says he is you want to know what is whether is holds that as much as it's not it's not it doesn't but it's much by the way what's the difference between being versus being if it's doesn't that by definition mean it's right but either way holds that the is not a quote unquote but at the very least it's hold is not and it's not even and that's that extra only has like a basic he says which is not requires certainly which is requires says I'll tell you even better which is a not and requires and B it's not even requires certainly which is a and certainly it's but you want to know what is that's but what emerges then is this is not it comes out it's hold is not holds that is that's why he only had a a singular holds that is not only It's not even meaning it's not even that's why had a double that's what comes out is on that says he's going to get the last word of today's everybody holds that regular is not don't be from holds that globally is always going to be I you see from the shino language of in the that there is a whether or not it's true there is but they're arguing about a very specific type of whether it's not where their is regarding of it's the holds that It's and it's there that Rabbi holds that just like are not this is not going to be either but the point is the reason that was very liberal in his language. He said it's like a double is not a it's not even because it's never and it's never the reason was a little bit more careful with those languages because there is a time that isap it's never but there is a time that it's and that's why in his world this is not a double kabr this is only a a single we'll stop here and will pick up with the raid that we left on the table in the coming face.