Zevachim 58

Today's D is and we are in the beginning of a new perk the sixth per of at the very top of in the event that on the top of the saysen It's as if he did it. We know from the first Mishna of the previous parak is like meaning it's audi the half of the is treated like it's only the soften part of the that's treated like meaning in the event that the ki kadash was shuck on on the soften half of the misb then says it's going to be cauter. If however it was on the half then it's not going to be cautious. So we have a in the Mishna and by the way is that's the that's the Talmid of that's the that used to speak so glowingly about throughout soi the first in the Mishna says that the entire top of of the misb it doesn't matter if it's the suffen part of the misb the dur part of the misb the mis part of the misb or the part of the entire misb is treated like hence in the event that kadash it's going to be kasher according to it depends we take the and we split it in half we make we do yat the northern part of the msb that's treated like taf of is going to be the southern part of the that's treated like is not going to be says in the name that so this is quoting something he heard from his who was quoting but when was quoting raisi he didn't just quote something that raisi one time said something tucked away somewhere. This is something that was that the entire was. Now if the entire according to Rabio was so had to preempt an obvious question and that is the Mishna says What does sound like? It's really not happening in however we're going to treat it as if it happened as if it was. Well, if used to say that then it's that if it's considered because it's not just it's the real thing. We always talk about right there are certain things that are something else. This shouldn't be if then it literally took place in so you have to say I would have thought when the says that has to be so is regarding the and it says the Torah doesn't just say do it in it says and means decide I would have thought that being that the Torah says maybe it has to be on the side of the and if it's on top of the it's and if that's the case it should be a problem that's why we have this reason it's only is because despite the fact that it's not but it isen and it's for that reason it's going to be so in that is that the way Rashi explains the segue to the next part of the daf is that when heard whati said they assumed that the way knew that was was from the Mishna from the fact that the Mishna says Why should the be treated like oh presumably it's because the wasn't now it's still a little bit of aesh it's still a cuz you could have thought that it has to be and here it's on the itself but at the end of the day understood that the is really coming from this and the two are the that holds him. And it's for that reason. If that's the case, then it would emerge that the second sheet in the Mishna who holds that it's only the treated like but is really treated like dam he should probably hold it's just back of the envelope arithmetic that half of the wasen and half of the was and that had a problem with some of the raassi is representing the and he turns to and he tells him if that's the case meaning if that is treated like soften because he holds the wasn't soften. Well, it should emerge then that according to the was half in soften and half in tell me okay who said and by the way we're going to see on there's who holds that the was the can entertain different possibilities of where exactly the was situated and one of the possibilities that will be very much entertained and is the according to some is that the mb And it's interesting is that is but either way is for sure that it's so what's the big deal if it emerges that that's the it's not like we never heard of such a it's not like this is an untenable uh reality because we know it actually is the way it is according to but the says it can't be you know why you yourself are the one that that in the event that the not on top of the MS but rather connected where the soften part of the is it would be possible. Now if you're going to tell me that is that the part of the is because it is then if you do it connect it also has to be kasha because it's so from the fact that said that only said if it's on the soften side but not if it's connect that must be of the opinion that the msbayak even the part of the misbayak is not right. It actually emerges that he must hold that the entire MSB is the D because if the MSB is soften at least the softened part then if you do it connect it should be kosher and from the fact that it's going to be possible so obviously holds the entire was meaning that has nothing to do with where the was there's a is treated like soften but according only the soften part. Well, if that's true according to then it makes sense that should be true according to as well. Rabio holds the entire misbehen. It's there's no from there that he has to hold that the entire was physically insuffen. He could hold he could hold it was entirely in meaning just like holds that it's not related to the fact that the contrary you see the is that the entire was well then according to it should be the same way again and again the way explains the understood that knew this from this can't be because you yourself are the one that said in the name of the same that of has nothing to do with where the is. So how could himself extrapolate from our Mishna that the entire misb was but if from you see clearly that the d of has absolutely nothing to do with where the physically was. So says responded to and he told him that no you got very excited for no reason. You think that when said he was coming from this he wasn't coming from this has no you see for what the status of is has nothing to do with this is that the entire was it's rather very it's actually misleading because it sounds like that and this are but really it's nois the of is independent of the fact that the misbeh wasen just like the has nothing to do with the is because he obviously holds that the entire wasn't darn how do you know that because he says if it was connect it would be possible okay so then what then is one last time if they're arguing with him was but you're telling me no there's nothing to do with that if I can't the was said so that's not so what then is the so said that both formulated their respective positions from one. The says this is referring to the says. Now if you look at Rashi says doesn't mean on it. Rashi says olive means or we'll see Rashi later but said that the two of both came from the word olive and they touched the word olive literally and what the basically just said is that you could check and okay what's that the way you read the is that the entire you could check and you could check now all you need is that's easy for you needs often so you embarrassed. The entire said which one is it? Is it a place for or is it a place even for half of it is for the other half is for now the half is good for as well. But the point is is going to be and he explained that she cuz if you're going to tell me that the way you read this is that the entire is well then why did have to say then certainly because the requirements for is much more it requires. So if you tell me you could check certainly you could check must be you divide the in half of it is going to be for the other half is going to be who holds that the way you read the is the entire is and is why have to say just maybe that there's not so much place in because you have to do it the said I'll give you an extra space you could do will you have the entire to do it 187 by 135 right so I would think that maybe is not okay that's the that you could do either way it says that what is the basis what is the has nothing to do with where the was or wasn't it's related to had referring to the top of the misbehnt. that that as much as holds that is but if it would be then already it would be possible and from here the proof that holds that the entire was my what is the what does it mean connect Is it referring to the ammo of the and the of the so we know that there were two am in the msbak that protruded a little bit right so the misb was a square it was 32 am by 32 am that's the msbayak part of the msbak not including the ramp we'll see more about this on bay but in that square there were really two places where there was indentation or looking at from the other side there was a protrusion which was one long. One of those was the the other one was the was on the bottom. This was more in the middle of the also had an important purpose for some of this. Not for now. But says when that would be on part of the but connect with a bele did he mean I have two problems with that. Why? Because number one that's not connect that is part of the misbeha it's for sure not right it's for sure not so it can't be that's what he meant okay so we immediately dismissed that possibility. Maybe what he was coming was in the event that there were tunnels that were made underneath the misbehavior to be cautious. But if you go underneath it, it's going to be possible. The problem is if underneath it means now is possible. And that's not what was talking about. He wasn't talking about a situation where you don't have a and you went ahead. No, you have a you're going to do right. Of course you have a and if the where it's in it's in a tunnel underneath well then you don't have it's for sure not what he meant. How do you know that if there are underneath it's not a question to We learned from there it has to be it has to be attached to the ground. You shouldn't build them as not on top of a tunnel or on top of arches. The bottom line is it can't be that's what that if it was connected it's going to be poss because that's part of the it's not the and it can't be because would be a problem in that you wouldn't even have a you have to say the case is the it's talking about where they made the very very small actually has an interesting if they decided to make the very small. So what happened was they made the smaller than the dimensions that it's really supposed to be and as a result where the soften part of the is supposed to be now all of a sudden it's pano there's nothing there why there could have been there but they decided to make the smaller now can you just decide to make the smaller so this is actually something that we're going to see in the coming Right is staring us in the eye right now. But regardless, this is a it's talking about where the was a little bit smaller right now where the southern part of the should be is vacant. There's nothing there. That's the where that if the would be there, it would not be. Oh, okay. So, let's just do a very short recap on what we had. The bean It's only the entire but it has a dinner of so that if you touch anywhere on the top of the is going to be you take the you cut it in half the towards is not treated like ten it's only the towards suffen that's treated like what emerges to mahalim had to understand high level only one of them works but conceptually two ways one is they're arguing physically where the was according to the entire wasen if the entire wasen therefore the is part it if that's the case my why isn't even because you would have thought maybe is not okay has to be but that it's okay because at the end of the day it's in whereas would hold that the Now these two stud that we would want to maybe plug and play into this would be very because these two stim exist very much in the world of trying to figure out the geography and the geometry of the aar and of the we know these twoas are out there. So if that's the case, so maybe that's what the case is. And by the way, to make it even better, we know for sure. But the said it doesn't work because we know for a fact that the sheet of the time was not actually. So if it was, it works instead on arrival on. So again as much as conceptually that could be a mahalak and it would even be a and the twoas actually exist but it doesn't work in the rejected that the other mahalik which the like is it says in the it's almost that you should check the carbon or you can check the carbon on top of them and it says which carbon said that the entire is said notice it says once it says oh must be it's coming to teach me that only half of him is the other half of him is going to be for at the end of the day the is the second and really that segus into the top on the first in the par says that even Though the mission is it sounds like this is only something you can do says don't make that how do I know that is a regular that's telling you that this is something that you're allowed to do says I don't But at the end of the day, I know you could check. Then says that it could be the reason the Mishna said it in is because you're not supposed to because maybe the animals going to be afraid it's about to be slaughtered and that's something that's not befitting for the don't make the deer is something that's only just mentioned. Before we go v that in our Mishna we have twoas regarding how you treat there's really a third cheetah and this is mentioned in the it's or in some versions of the base olive means This is you would have expected. I've seen this in the Garen which is notap. Yeah, you can't do and soften but you could do then certainly certainly as it relates to which is even for sure you should be able to do So, I'm skipping the next part of this longer. So this is that means and it makes sense based on a you can do bit soften where you can't do certainly you should be able to do says the brace I hear says the boss goes on the misb and the dam goes on the but as it relates to the is not something that you can do. So this is a a new that says you can't do not on the entire not even only on the misb it's also interesting that where is this mentioned it's mentioned on the it's sounds like means connect and says says No, you can check this is from our What else do you see from this? It's right. So we have how many? We have threeas. We have our entire we have the only and then we have the who holds that means connect you're never allowed it's an interesting on this he quotes this that's why I found it's a what does mean it means the math was on top of him or them. No. What does it mean? So Rashi quotes the Rashi does not quote the two opinions in the this is where Rashi quoted more the midash in it's the and in Vikra it's the teran and invar it's the sron the saf And even even in berious Rashi quotes more the bracious rabbis and the tan and the more quotes. But either way here Rashi quotes that first in the not who is really the here. If you take a look at the on the words says I saw in the safer paren says that from the at first glance it sounds like that it should be literally on top but then again he says it's not because maybe you could say he's just in a word. So just like olive means so Allah could also mean but the rashi had a a supports his what was the take a look at the on the words of shift over there the goes out of its way to say so says and it's clear that from the fact that the said but when it comes to here the didn't Say the word it simply says must be the target is touching the word of because the is learning like our in other words is being not only not like the it's not only not like a not like a rash is also being not like the either way on that note we turn our attention to the second part of today's said that and he felt that if Rabioi held that the entire is bitsen there must be a rem to it somewhere in the Mishna. Now to be clear, he didn't feel that he has to have a a research and as much as there's a from a to that and must have felt based on some or some that he had that who is the author of that Mishna? The author of that Mishna is but either way felt that there must be somewhere to this idea that is that soak he went out duck he learned up all the and he found the Mishna and as we're going to see this is anything but stating that felt that he had the where as a in a Mishna What's this? So we know that there were different on the primary that's where all the took place on the there was a second that was known as the of dictus. That's what this mission refers to it as. The reason it's referred to as the dictator is because it's from that the would take the bring it into the put on the so they can go ahead and be mictus. So this Mishna is describing the kahanim who are climbing halts wood to make that which ultimately is going to be used for the so it says they went there to collect to be buret where's there so there is the de right there was a certain chamber where all the wood was kept that's pretty obvious what type of wood did they take they took wood from a fig tree why from a fig tree so there's a very interesting rashi here au It's based on because we know that when they ate from the so they needed some sort of tick. What did they do? They used for that reason was used for this but either way so they went to the they took that were very very nice is to make the second. Now where did they put the mar? It was connected. It was by the corner of the but not by the corner. It was pushed towards the direction. How much? Okay. Now how much wood did they take? They took they took enough wood that based on their estimation would be able to create five s of because that's how much they're going to need for this. on they would take a little bit more wood. They would take enough to have eight of and the reason is because actually served a dual purpose. So it wasn't only used for the but it was also used for the so we know in Shabas the used to eat the they were divided between the but before they were able to eat from the they had to do anar they had to do anar with that were always sitting on the that was done on the where was it done it was done on the so being that they need more fire they need more coals that's why over there they took wood but either This Mishna, the Mishna says that when they made the took very nice wood, the wood was and they would put it by the corner of the but towards the north. How much wood did they take on a regular day? enough wood to make five son of cuz all it's going to be used for is for the on chabas where it's also going to be used for over there they had a use more says the now this word is a little bit of a interesting word and we're going to see it's really a play on words it's a it's a little bit of a pun intended based on something that we're going to see on the days but the question is why did it have to be and this is the part of this Mishna that we're going to focus Why did it have to be by the what's the why is that the could be a m sometimes why is that the right why is that the place that this sounds like it's a very very precise place why it have to be there a more importantly what's this all about so said it must be it's the following should be in your hand. The reason we use the lion is because the answer is going to be based on something that said and the lion used to say what he said that we're going to apply now is the word sim that's why meaning did somebody say something about a sim that's why we're using the word but it's really regardless said this sim should be a cloud that you walk around with you have to have this in your anytime you take something in the with the purpose of putting it on You're always supposed to put it on the part of the that there's no part of the that's closer to the than it. This is like a little uh backwards. But the point is that if you're taking something from the and you're putting on the you have to put it on the part of that's closest to the how close that there's nothing closer than it right that there's nothing closer than and the same is true the other way around. If you're taking something from with the intention of putting it inside the you can take it only from the part of the that there's no part closer to the meaning it has to be from the part that's closest to the says the what did mean when he said this what's he referring to so if you go back to you could say maybe he's talking about right again what are If you're taking something from the and you're going to put it on the you know which part of you put it on the part that's closest to the maybe it's referring to of the hence the is coming from it's going to now require when you do it's on the is the part of the MSB that's closest to the right we have to be familiar with this at this point because we know that if you're walking from the to the to the you're going to which means if you're coming the other way and you're going from to the to the you're going to so it means which part of the is going to hit you first it's the part of and we know that had to be on that part of the says it multiple times. So we know that's what it has to be. So is that what meant? So he said, "Well, if that's what he meant, why' he have to say it? It's a again multiple mentions of it in the we know that's what about the second thing the said anything that's taken from the with the express intent of putting it now inside the that too it has to be taken from which part of the has to be taken from the part of that's closest to the which we just define now as Right. Well, what is he referring to? Does he mean the use for the specialist that was brought? Well, that's also the say and again you see you're supposed to know because the didn't even feel needs to tell you the end of the but what's the we have to look in you have to take it from the that can't be is giving you a sim right this is your cheat sheet you should always know that the is where is on the part and when you take the for the you're taking it from the part everybody KNOWS THAT because you're supposed to notice you sleep. So obviously this is the way it's supposed to be. He said what he said obviously was coming to tell us something that maybe we didn't know. You know what he meant when he said that anything that is anything that you're taking from the put on you have to put on he meant he was referring to the they were on the in when you did the it doesn't say we're in the you're supposed to do and that is the he learned it from is that and where do you do it? You do it on the it makes sense that should be the same way. And when he said to the is that when you're taking something and you're going to put in the you have to take it from the part the part that there's nothing closer to the then well you know what he was referring to there he was referring to the that was taken every single day for not that's but that was taken every day and now we knew it because he learned it from But the bottom line is the bottom line is says that it must be that when said he was referring to that of had to be where it had to be on the it had to be it had to be where the was. And when we say what he's referring to is the that we use for the had to also be from the part. It had to be from the same place that you took the for the which the Tyra says was it was it was literally by the in other words is that the of the and the for the of the entire year both took place on a fire that was on the but it's on the my part it's A place that's it satisfies the criteria where the had to be where the had to come from it had to be in that area says says that I have a Mishna in the stomach that said that there was a very very nuanced place where the had to be. You know where it had to be? It had to be by the Kenov but it I think I think that that Mishna is because I know holds that there's a very nuanced place that you need to do the avoid that are related to that. What's the used for? It's used for the of and it's used for the for the of every day is that both of those things have to be they both have to be on the part of that's why the that's why would be of the opinion that it has to be so far so good. Okay. Now the question is and this is the obvious question that just because it has to be these two things and those are the two functions of the why does that mean it has to be by the so that's going to be the next part of the and that's really the the punchline and the of the but before we do that we just have to acquaint ourselves with a few mitsious things just a few definitions before we read this document right so there's a few things What do we have to know? Number one, we have to know that the heel had a pes, right? There was an entrance way to get into the heel and the pes of the was 10. It was 10. Additionally, the heel is situated perfectly in the middle of the azara, which means that if you were going to cut the azar in half, five of the would be on sen and the other five would be on dam. Right? So again, the length of the azor goes mis the width goes damen. If you're going to go length and you're going to slice it into two, so half of the width is going to be on the darham side, half of the width is going to be on the soften side. It's 10 wide which means you can have five on you can have five on okay you didn't go from the straight to the we know that there was this big enter chamber that separated the two that was known as the ulam the was wider than the pes of the was also wider than the it was twice as wide as the so the was 10 wide the was 20 am wide and it was also situated perfectly which means that if you're going to take the 20 am width of the 10 am of it's going to be on dar and 10 am of it is going to be on suff. The last thing we need to know is that the misbeak itself was a square. It was 32 Amish by 32 Amish. And this is not counting the kesh. But the misbeak part of the MSB, right? That's where all the activity was. The misb part of the misb was 32. Last thing, this is not a math thing, but we mentioned on there's a big sh in the tan, right? And it was very unclear where exactly the misb was. Was the mben which means that if you took that and you cut it in half the misb would be completely on the toughen side. Was it? So if you cut it in half it would be completely on the darham side or maybe it was perfectly in the middle. Now for the purpose of our sug starts literally at the midpoint at the 50 yard line. Right. to be give a little hamash. It's literally at the center point of where the azara is. So that's where the duram is part of the mb. So the wall that's closest to dar of the misb would be exactly at the midpoint and then the entire 32 amus would be situated on the ten side. If the entire misbeh is on the dar side then it's faker. Then the sophonous wall would be literally at that midpoint and the entirety of the 32 would be clap. If you hold that then it's going to be smack in the middle. Either way, with this little bit of an introduction or a lot of bit of an introduction says the we're saying that had to be by the four which at first glance what's all about so the said I'll tell you why it's who gave us right what was sim that the two things that the were used for had to come from a part of them as That's right. That's the era that it had to come from. It had to come from the side. But the question is why does this have to be if we're saying right now is the only way we'll be able to make sense of this holds that the entire was. So the entire mbah was bad. Let's think for a second. So we said all 32 amus of the misbak is on the dharm side. So if you're going to make the four amus removed from the corner of is so the is going to be that's good you want it on the side but is it going to be it's nowhere close to what does mean the whole is is how wide the whole is wide we just said if the entire is so that means that the msbak really ends right the soften part of the MSB ends by the part of by the part of the which means if you want to get now from the corner of to a part of the that's going to be that will satisfy the criteria that you have when it comes to satisfy the criteria that you have when it comes to taking the where it's literally again it's not enough that it's on it has to be it has to be facing the entrance way of the so how far you going to have to move from the Karov towards the Pakist if you all the entire back was the you're going to have to move 27 am what's the point when you move 27 amus now you're at the point where you're holding by the five Amish of Mak that overlaps that overlaps with the five Amus that is the dur part of the entrance way of the so the way Rashi explains this is you would have to move 27 am and then beyond the 27 am that next spot that's where you would have to plant the well then it would be then it would be and it would satisfy all the criteria that you would have to do now if is telling you that it has to be to make this work because we don't have any other reason why it would be so precise to mock him it's based on can't be He holds that time is bad. Now says well maybe we can make this a little bit better maybe holds that the and the of the is that repeats itself many times in and what would it mean that the and the is one. It means that if there's a criteria that these have to be done, it really doesn't have to be done. doesn't have to be. It could be because whenever we say in satisfies that as well and if that's the case maybe you only have to get it to the now if you only have to get it to the you don't have to go 27 am to get there because we said the was twice as wide as the so five of the is on the durham side which is going to be parallel to with this misb which means 10 am of the is going to be on the darham side again the heel is 10 am wide five on the dham side five on the s side the ulam 20 wide which is 10 on the D 10 on the if the entire MB is on the D. So that means it's the last 10 that is 10 of the that's going to be okay. So you don't have to go now 27 to get there. How far would you have to go? But you would still have to go 27 minus 5. You would have to go 22. You would have to go from the Karen 22 then drop and over there you're going to be but that's not where the Mishna said. The Mishna said four. So that doesn't work. Maybe the time of the Mishna who we're saying is hold maybe also the was now if that means 16 of the is on and 16 of it is on okay well if that's the case if you want to go now from the corner of the mb the dam is part of the marov and you want to start walking towards the soften side to get where you'll be to How far you going to have to go? We said five of overlaps with the 16 of So how far you going to have to go? 16 minus 5 you're going to have to go 11. It's not what the said for Okay, maybe you hold that and the and have the same meaning can be satisfied by being okay. Well, even if that's the case, how far are you going to have to go? You're going to have to go from 16 to get to where you're going to be within 10, which means you're going to have to go six. And again, it's not four says the third option, right? We eliminated. We even eliminated. must be that the T of this Mishna holds that the entire Msbayak isn't suffen and if the entire Msbayak isn't suffen so now I'll make sense of it now what does it mean if the entire has been let's get this clear so that means that the dharmis part of the misb starts at the midway point of the aar right we said that's what it means has been just like means the soften part is at the midpoint if it means the dharmis part is at the midpoint that means to the midpoint of the azara which the means it's at the midway point of the so it overlaps with five it overlaps with five of right it overlaps with five of now if that's the case if you need to put the in a place where it's going to be m so really you could put it right there right you should be able to put it at the corner you should be able to move over one amma another amma another ammo, even another ammo. You have five Amas to work with, which is good. Till now, we could make any sense of it. But the question is still, why would you have to go for Amas? It sounds like you have to go for why have TO GO FOR BOOM. JUST PUT IT ANYWHERE YOU WANT IN THAT AREA. IT'S GOING TO be says the galdic. If you hold the entire and you want to know what the methodology for those four is, one is the the other one is the the third is the of the and the fourth one is the and the fourth one is the for the point is like this. When we say that the misb was 32 and 32, it takes into account the amma of the it also takes into account the amma of the oh by the way it also takes into account the amma of the corners of the kronis which means really of those five of the 32 of the that overlap with the pel three of them are not they're not applicable because you can't put the on the you can't put it on the and you can't put it on the corner. Okay, so there's two to work with. No, because there's one extra you need that's the forum to be able to walk around. It's for that reason the first four are not an option. You know where you have TO PUT IT? YOU HAVE to put it on the fifth. If you're going to move it over one more hour, you're not going to have a p and that's the is that time is and who holds which the went through with a whole it doesn't mean it doesn't mean the the coals that were used for the kipper. It means it means the codes that were used for the terrorist. And if that's the case, what is it referring to? IT'S REFERRING TO THE means has to BE ON THE SIDE. HOW YOU GOING TO GET IT? That's you're going to get it by moving it from the corner four. If the is you have to move it way more than four. And even if the is you have to move it at least six. If you know how it works, the entire is biten. If n is biten well then you really have five to work with and really you shouldn't have to move it at all. It's just practically speaking if you understand the the way the was built. You realize four are not because you can't deal with is not an option. You're not putting it on the corner of the and you need one just to get around for the therefore it must be it's going to be one removed. That's the way it would have to be. And if that's the case, Rashi says the of moving it for is not to get it to it's not to get it to it's to keep it. And really the dog is not move it for as much as don't move it more than for that's the point. Rashley speaks this out. It's not move it for it's don't move it more than for what's the bottom line. What's the bottom line? What's the bottom line? said used to say heard this and he said there has to be a somewhere in the he said I found the Mishna you know where I found the Mishna I found because in that they put the by the how far and really at first glance it doesn't have so much of why would that be the Why would that be the place to go ahead and do it? It only makes sense who said he's the one that was that the things that the we used for had to be and it only works the specific math of the that's where this came from. It didn't come from the in our that's not the is from that telling to that and doing all this math sounds amazing right not to everybody I have heard all this and he said I'm not so sure I agree with you because I could always tell you I could always say that maybe the time of the is really the time to the sentence was smack in the middle of the was 32 by 32. 10 of the of these 32 was and then there was 11 on this side and 11 on that side. Right? So it's 10 + 11 + 11 that's your 32s. comes out that says there's no that the maybe the going who said he said that what that was really and if it was how you're going to make it work. So the Gor says one second what what what did we just do right have we been paying attention we already entertained it sad that maybe but we said there's no way to make that mission work according to that why not because at the end of the day you're going to have to move it either uh 11 six right you still have a little bit of a track to go so all WE DID WAS WE PUT different names we changed it from but how exactly was about this old we were willing to entertain that that was but we knew it couldn't work in this had we changed anything it's so at the end of the day you still have to walk at 11 you still have to work walk at six it's not going to work so said let me explain of course I knew that I have been paying attention let me explain What I meant to say was could be when the Mishna says you had him walking is very posh. It didn't mean for where the 32 begin means for which by the way is probably what you would have thought if you thought about it for a minute right it's for the top it's not let me go measure from the bottom I know there's no when you're measuring your room you're not the foundation IT'S FROM THE TOP THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE going the point is these four right is including it's also the and the right miss Okay, it means excluding that. And if that's the case, when you move it, how far are you moving it from the bottom? You're moving it six. There's no to say holds the entire I'll tell you. There's one more piece we're gonna have to close in one second. But who that was and it's according to that it makes perfect sense that you would have to move it four. What's the is not counting the so how far do you have to move it? Not four from the 32. It's really six from the 42 also holds you have to say this that the and the is so as long as you can get it facing the would satisfy the criteria of it being and is move it six and then do it one beyond that right that's how it comes out because six you're so what you need to do is you have to go one beyond that and that's you would have to go ahead and you would have to plant a mar. But the bottom line is there's no that it's and the math is the way you said it. It could be and the math is the way I'm saying it. But thear just has one obvious question and that is why did one pick book on the wanted it to be and the reason we wanted it to be because is the only one who seems to hold that we care that's why we're handling in the first place otherwise why are we talking about it's because he's the bad member he's the only one we know that has such a so if that's the case that really we want it to be the question is what does hold as it relates to where the was well really we have a white board I don't know it could be anywhere maybe maybe don't we have that's the first half of the we know that's not so we're open now as far as options go it could be anywhere the only way it works is if you hold him as basically knocked that out he says can make it work if it's because I can tell you it's so then why do you need right says the just stay with it was one of the options in the just say it was and for the reason because we know for a fact he has the so it's that maybe this is going we know that is being that we know that let him hold this. Now speaks out we know holds that but we know that holds that and says I'll read it's the last on today's it's the second to last but the last rashi is really the beginning of tomorrow's on but either way maybe everybody holds that And at the end of the day being that we know is it's for that reason that's what we said. Either way, what's the second part of the sort of got involved in the fact that at first night thought maybe that has its in our probably it's because he holds the rejected that if that's the case is there no anywhere from the Mishna it's not this There's probably a Mishna somewhere was dark and at least in his opinion and that is he found the that says that the was used for the that was used for the had a be on the part of the but from the corner it had to be in a very very unique place assumed that it's only that you would require that the be in a unique place cuz the only T I know who was where the use of proceeds of that was is so that the T of this Mishna is and is telling you in a very precise way that you want to know where the has to be it has to be What must the reason be said? It's probably because he holds the misbeh which means that the starts at the five at the midpoint of the which means five of the entrance way of the is to the first four of those and you would never be able to make a and what he's telling you is is move it four but not more than four because if you're going to move it more than four now you're going to be already six removed. You're not going to be the five. You'll be no and it's for that reason that's where it would have to be. But the bottom line is he backed into this idea that that must be shot in the Mishna. So is the one that was and he said that no who we happen to know for a fact holds the and it was and I'll tell you holds like he holds like that that we care where the was because the proceeds of the hand had to be from a place that And is basically telling you that you have to go from the durham side and move it four but not from number one because don't count that's not on the top part from the top part. If you move it four from the top of the it's really six from the and it's right after that you put it so that it'll be one second it's not negative it's oh it's because I'll tell you that holds that the and the is that you put it beyond that by the way if you want to go a little bit beyond that and a little bit beyond that it's also going to be fine right according to the first the way learned the Mishna I'll leave it to Rabi you have one way to put it there's nowhere else you can put it according to according to who's learning the you have a lot more options right so there's a few interesting that come out between these two right number one is do you hold that the does it have to be for removed or maybe if I want to have some leeway I could move it over a little bit further but the bottom line is this cryptic why it had to be this is and you have to move it four because you don't have options for the four but in that fifth you have to do it or and it's and if you want to move it beyond that that's also fine as long as you keep it one thing's for sure that Mishna holds that and that for sure is based on a member that said is the only one who holds it Maybe also holds it. Rashi says cool. So maybe everybody even holds it. Interesting. But the bottom line is it's based on this idea that the things that the were used for the and for the had to be like the had to be like the coals that we use for the world from an of the that's you go to the I think today's had the raid built into Do it. We're going to stop