Zevachim 69

Today's we are 17 lines from the top of the two dots. So we're in the middle of a sug that began with a Mishna on the bottom of that discusses that brought or when do we say that the is and when do we say that it's not the background to this of course is that a in wears two hats is an is also the is the of an has a very unique type of toma. It's so if somebody puts it in his he would become we saw that not only would the person become but any clothing that he's wearing would also become. So this is a pares in the world of the discussion in the Mishna was what would be if uh brought an ancho but it was done in an improper way. That's for sure that any that one gets when he brings the carbon that he's supposed to bring he would not attain. The question is as it relates to the other as it relates to the laws of do we say that this right now would be to or would it not be to and the Mishna said that really it depends on what is in the event that apostle did the we would say that we don't treat it as an avail with regard ards to the laws of if the was done by aer but it was done by but it was done it was done at night all these cases what would be if the malikica was done but not with the fingernail of the coin but rather was done with a knife All those cases the bottom line is is it? Well, it depends. What does it depend on? So the Mishna continues and the Mishna says here's the rule. In the event of is what we would deem to be and if it was so then already it would be what is that we already discussed. Why is the din of and whether it's oresh that we also already discussed but what emerges from the first daff here in this and from rashi right away in the is that really this is totally in another sugi that we're going to get into in great depth sugi that's a lot easier by the way than this and that's almost everything we're going to learn after this is easier than this but there's an idea that sometimes if you take a ple like a murimul and you put it on the you have to get it off can't be there it's possible how could it be on the but then there's a concept of what's the when do we say that if it goes on the get it down when do we say so says it's in this if it's if it's then it's speaks out and again it's based on the gamor that the reason The of whether it's or not is not so much because it's but more because it's an where is that can go into so that means you did something if you did something there's no way you can view this as an avail is if it drop dead but to the extent that the you didn't had for at least well then is going to be if however it would be a so that means you didn't do anything the malik is not a malik nothing's a nothing well if you have an and you didn't do the malik it' be like if you had a you didn't do a it would be treated like ana and if that's the case is it would be either way today's d is going to pick up on this note and really it's going to quote a few which is a source of This as we see is a term which is another and the source of that is also a term is technical or related to these. So again the Mishna said we learned you would think that that's done inside would be now first glance it doesn't sound like anything was wrong. You did the that's amazing. That's exactly what you're supposed to do. So why would you think it's so the mafurish says by the way it's not rashi here right it's the mafarish so the mafurish says that what we're talking about is where the malik was done by apostle so you would have thought that if someone that's not let do the avoid would do the avoid the apostle would do the malik it would now be simply because of the fact that the malika was malika so if the malikica is pula so it's not proper malikica You didn't kill it in the right way. It should be Tommy the says. So where does it say? It says this is a very important P. It's going to be the topic of most of the D right now. Short by the way, but it's going to be the topic of most of the short. The PK is talking about a person that in a let's look at more carefully. So somebody ate a novela and as a result he became Tommy. So what type of NA are we talking about? It's easy because we're talking about that one would only become if he ate it. Which is one only Tommy if he eats the of an right. It's only another giveaway is the Pik says not only is the person his clothing are also going to be which person who comes in contact with a that's his also become it's the of the which is not only the person but even his so again is talking about the of an either way says the you would have thought that was done by apostle inside should be it says the word and being that it says it's not why not because this is not an why not to the extent that the so it's no different than if you didn't the animal properly of course it's going to bear says the duk is not from the word the d is from the And really if you think about it, why is this word mentioned in this? Why are we talking about a talking about and by the way this of why does mention the word is really going to underpin the next part of the and it's also going to underpin tomorrow's that word is throwing us for a loop here and that's the must have had a when it threw in that word and this is what it's coming to teach me it's coming to teach me eser when an animal becomes a tra is there any iser that now becomes mut doesn't make sense can't say where stray face you have an animal that was now became a tra oh now it's tra is not mater we learn from here that the only time this is if the way the animal became an did not trigger any as opposed to the malikica even of a puzzle That's in the being that it's what is the you wouldn't be allowed to put it on the but that's why it won't be. So you would have thought that a malik that's done by apostle should be mama makes a lot of sense. It's not a malik. So now it's going to be available. And we learn from there that the only time is going to be a is if it's not being meaning when it became a when it died there was no that became being that this was so it's for that reason that it won't be the price continues and says that from this heckish between and I could be I could also be but we could also be if somebody would do or if somebody would do being that in those situations you're not being right is the wrong type of is so it doesn't matter if it's in all of those cases You killed the in the wrong way. Thus, you could hear why it would be in a there's no that comes along with it. To the contrary, in all of these cases, if you would take that now, you'd put it on the would be. Well, if that's the case, then it would be. So you want to know why the put the word in this of because really the word is a very very critical word of I don't need it. I could have said I would know everything I need to know. But in terms of some of these I only know that because wrote the word in fact the is the you want to know when it's when it's and when it's not the that's what it boils down to. When becomes a tra there's no is that's becoming mut. If when the becomes an avail that's becoming no even of well then is that it's going to be if however there's any even then the is that it's not going to be which by the way is a now to the of our right our Mishna said that that it's not if it's why It's Italian that it comes from this word of another that's going to jump on this word you would have thought if somebody or if somebody whether it's the says to tell me that it's not so again this mirrors the previous you would have thought a certain situation where you killed the in the wrong way. It should be because you didn't kill it in the proper way the word to tell me that it's not. Now, what's this B is specifically talking about? These cases are so nuance, right? So, we're talking about where somebody not supposed to not supposed to bring. So, you got it wrong. Or if somebody knife that's you got it wrong. If you checked it, it's all wrong. But the bottom line is all three of these cases, you did something wrong, right? But it's can't be and so you got the right and the right, but you supposed to do you weren't supposed to do. So again, all these things are you got wrong. So you would have thought that what says to tell me Not same like we had earlier. Where do you see in the word that these things are excluded? Ella says the it says that word that we mentioned earlier is an extra word in this price. We're going to dash them a little bit differently. Just like a there's no if it's right animal becomes a traim it's there's no between when it comes to so too the only time you're going to have when an animal is going to be when it becomes an is if this thing that happened to it would make it an if it happened if it happened as opposed the three cases of this price being that the is not the same for that reason it's not going to be so the price says where do you see that because doesn't discriminate between the only time an of it becoming available would be is if it's a situation where it doesn't discriminate between all three of these cases there's a between there's a between so without even trying to figure out what this means on our own the is going to do the work for us says when it comes to right there's a between if somebody would check would it be avail No, then it also won't become unavail. So even if it's going to be okay, but as it relates to they're actually one and the same because are both a problem. Why? If it's well is no and even when it's a problem because you're supposed to do malik you're not supposed to do so I hear how the word could be from because okay so it's but as it relates to it both cases shouldn't be a said in the world of in the world of if somebody is it's a problem the person's going to be so said that's that to the extent that somebody would even though the way you're supposed to do the within is not through it's through but the par is that if somebody even he's says it's that the animal's not going to be in a veil because if the is to be if the terrorist says I see this as with regards to there's no way the terror is not going to see it as regards to the last thing the would want to see it as aita for is to to take away prematurely right So to the extent that we view this as a regarding then it has to be it's a with regards to everything else. So in as much as you did it the wrong way and therefore we can clar it as an reason for sure is not going to be but they weren't okay. So you have a marri but what about there there's no you don't find anywhere from that it's that we treat it like a so then it should not be once I know that is not it's also not in other words the Bryson is saying that from the fact that the T mentioned the word we learn that the only time in is to the extent that it's what does it mean to me the tra doesn't discriminate between so to the way this was killed it have to be there was no if this mice whatever was and from there I can exclude And that's easy because would not be because that's the way you're supposed to make it die. So then also not because it would be and even I know based on for sure it would not be why not because if it's considered certainly has to be with regards to this as well and once I know it's not considered if it happens well then so too it wouldn't be if it happened because of the fact that it's says if somebody was there right what's the why isn't it's the wrong way to do it but is the right way to do it so comes out it's because it would be good would be good according to is that the lem from the word is that it has to be it's not said you have to say that the only time we say the the only time we say the of is to the extent that what you did was wrong. So if there's two wrong ways of doing it and in one case it would be and the other time it wouldn't be so then we say that they have to line up but being that Malikica's is not a situation where you even did anything wrong that's the way that you're supposed to do it. If it's that you're supposed to do it, even if you would do it now in another way, you wouldn't say that there's a problem by virtue of the fact that it's a that if there's two ways of doing it that are both wrong and one of them I know for a fact is not mama, then the other way also is not going to be the but to the extent that the one that's not mama is not mama because I did it in the right way. So in that case going to be different. I don't know what's bothering yo, right? But I'm guessing what's bothering you is what do you mean is also and we just said that as it relates to the reason it's not is because it's not am I right which is always a coveret for me but from the fact that the you're telling me is not the trade says already asks this says the but one last horror and that is are you going to tell me that but what about the following tomorrow writing yesterday how do you know that when it comes to that it's considered something that's so if you have that if you put on the reason is because being that there's no Obama. So therefore is it's going to be in what's the is that if you're telling me there's a how could there be a cool how could there be a because of the fact that you find there's no it's not there's no by there no byama mean that there by Obama there's no what do you I don't care. At the end of the day, there's a in the world called So that it's not and the reason is because what are you going to tell me? can't learn from because it's there's a precedent in the of we don't seem to care about but says it's not true that says the reason by meaning is it's not really based on we saw this in yesterday it's based on the bottom line is it's based on that's based on a is like an it's just a it's a but really it's rooted in a if all I had was this I would say either way we just concluded the majority of what we're going to learn right now and that is really it's two braces very straightforward two terrorist kayanms both terrorist kayanms are coming from the same place right sometimes the weeds of a gammorra hard but at least high level watch just happened right it says with regards to the which we know is not only the person but it says the word is extra we're not talking about we're talking about everything we needed regarding we know it's anar how do we know that because it's And it says not only is the person say but why did Terry write the word? We have two braces that said two different between the two bices is that the word is being a situation where the or the malik was done and sometimes is it will be to sometimes is that it won't be to what does it depend on well it's it's if it's similar to yeah if it's not similar to not what does it mean that's where the two veered off the first The second Ber said that another says what would it be if the went ahead and he found out that this was a tra that's a little bit of a different case here we're talking about a trafa because we're talking about a tra we're not using the word to be hila We're talking about a trafa because kava. So k went ahead. He did a malik and all of a sudden the animal turns out is a traa. Now what's the shila? What's the shila? That's pit. That's posh that you can't eat the animal. It's tra, right? So forget about malika. Not malik. It's a trafa. So it's dead on arrival. Pun intended. There's no way in the world you'd be able to eat it. You want the avoid to be a kasher avoid on an animal that's a trafa. can't use a tra as a a carbon. So what's the shil the shil is is it going to be or is it not going to be that's the the over here says it's not says no it is going to be explain who says he said I know from which is in the event that Somebody would an animal and the animal would be found to be a is that although you wouldn't be able to eat the animal but at the same time it wouldn't be because the is so what just means you can't eat it but at the same time the is going to be a as it relates to it not being and that's true by which is which is not only so certainly the of this should be now just proved that the of an if it's should not be done right what did begin that's why Rome needs another step this is not a direct flight. This has a stopover. Here's the next stop. And when it comes to the is that if you say what's not going to be meaning if should be the same thing. So our mayor says How do I know that? I know it from a double. It's a right. I think that's uh the category that it falls into is that of a that's where it was even though you wouldn't be allowed to eat it but the fact that it's a tra would not get in the way of the being the from well then it's going to be true when it comes to the of an what's the because it's as opposed to it's only And if I know that the of where it senses is not going to be well it makes perfect sense that the malik should be the same way said I disagree. I don't think that you can learn Malikas from even though I technically have the mechanism to do it because I'm learning from and then Malikas from but at the end of the day what's emerging if you look at this high level from a 20,000 foot view. So what's happening is is that being and it can't do that because at the end of the day by there's no so as much as by you find this idea that the is even when it's a tra from you don't find it by malik why not because malik's bea and being that you don't find it by there's no way that on the receiving end of a even if it jumps through the hoop at a minion you're going to have it by malik according to who sounds a little bit like he's a third cheetah in the Mishna that now will all play itself out in the is that this is not going to be okay either way the first of the is said what's his he learns it from if well then which is for sure for sure would be and if so if is then so too malik what was the end of the right said what do you mean at the end of the day there's no malik there's no through can result in it being true even by malik says I mean should we walk away from this missionary mayor doesn't hold of and by the way you find this lush in a different place in right so does not hold of how do I know that so one of the important is learned from that and What does this mean? What this means is that when Miriam spoke and she became said that Miriam right now is going to have to be quarantined for a 7-day period. Why? He says because if Miriam's father, her biological father would be angry at her. So what would happen? call him. So now that it's it has to be the same way. If for her biological father it would be seven days. Then if it comes to it should be more than seven days. How many days? It should be 14 days. Now 14 days. Oh good gosh. I'm asking Muhammad speaking now also. But why 14 days? So I bid to we spoke about this once. But the bottom line is so you would think it's uh really having a good day. You think it's so you would think that it should be 14 days. The ter is so if for her father it would have been seven days that it can't be for the more than seven days either because of this of but the bottom line is we learn from this. So he says what does hold doesn't hold of there's no way you can hold say had a this whole is really based on a it says this is in the parish of and the says this is the of regarding of and says the price of shuff sounds like one and the same. Really? In what ways similar as it relates to says the like this? That's not something doesn't have that. I have to say that the is coming to teach me just like the meaning is even the thing that's what does that mean that if it's going to be as well now we need a little bit of help here theor is saying that there's that teaches me the that just like a so to a by an we going to see it's going to be okay. So how does this help us? The reason this helps us is is because this is with regards to and with regards to and over here the is not but rather the lim is hish. So if the limit is not going to have a problem another and this is brought here on the side of the is that it could be the said in the he's still standing by because really it sounds like from the is coming from a right so really is coming from a and he's using the to me he's using to teach me because for that there's no dialog if then is also going to bear. What was the issue? The issue was I don't have an ability to jump from because for that I'm going to use. So at the end of the day the is going to be used for the he is going to be used for once I have the heckish. What do I need the good this is going to walk into tomorrow's d which will see tomorrow. But the bottom line is is that for now the first in the holds that just like if somebody would say so too if somebody shacks an and so to if somebody does malik on an even though it's na and being that it's at the end of the day it's not going to be kosher can eat it is not a kasher but at the same time as it relates to tuma the traa in it of itself is not going to get in the way. So just to end this epic week with one final raid bite and that is not even a raid bite just a few heration very very short this week's parish is parish begins what an appropriate way to start the week left he left there he's heading to ancient Turkey But uh the point is he's going to and he came to a certain place and he fell asleep there because the sun had set and he took from the stones in that area. He put them around his head and he went to sleep over there. He had a dream. in his he brings up ashhat in this shame his famous grandfather Rabbul the great great who said the derek of people that like each other be pardam Ishmiro When they part ways, they begin to cry and they start saying, "I'm going to miss you." So, we had such a good time. When are we doing this again? And we have to put something on our calendar like you find loved so much when he came to the and he was about to leave the of the land his nephesh started leaving him. He was going mish because he's he's leaving the land right now and he started giving different peers to the land. I'm going to miss you. I can't go. It's going to be so hard. And and he started crying and he was mish talking to the land. He says, "You don't know how much pain I'm in. I have to run away. I'm telling you now. I'm going to come back one day." As this was happening, as he was he was crying, it got laid early and all of a sudden the sun set and he had a lie there. This is what the P means is a lotion of you find this lotion in different places in Tanak and it was in that place and it was because of that place. But this was the reason he had no idea. He says this is an Indian that you find by the says that when they would come to they would kiss the floor because they had such a and they wanted it so much. When saw how much loved he wanted so badly not to leave because he understood this is home and this is really where he belongs but sometimes a person has to do what a person has to do. So turned to Yakov and told him you have nothing to worry about. He said, "I promise you. I promise you, I'm going to make sure you come back one day. You so badly don't want to leave. The day is going to come. The day is going to come when you're going to come back." I don't think there's a more appropriate way to end such a week than with these heres with these of we all know that this is where we belong. But we got to do what we got to do. But when a person feels that way and a person leaves with those types of tells that was and this is the reason he got this I think before Friday night I would have looked at this okay it's a nice when you appreciate the fact that the was born and the was from and the was a and he had to He ended up spending decades of his life in Italy. Not a place that he wanted to be. These heres and was our first stop on this trip was to harmon. And we saw that this was to 200 years after he passed away. He was to be returned. But this is when leaves the way you're supposed to leave. There's a and not just that just to end I heard from you did he told me he was a a ber he was in camp yeshiva that was summer camp so I went to but I went to campa I didn't go to campa but he said he remembers they were in camp yeshiva and it was the end of a a very very fun gishmaka summer and the matu He got up and he wanted to say he wanted to so he gets up and he says if somebody says goodbye to his friend so he said this is the world that said that what does it mean he said that when a person says goodbye to his friend he should say goodbye with a kasha. Why would a kasha? Because if you say goodbye with a kasha, the person that you're saying goodbye to is going to always think of a kasha. And like this, he's going to remember you. And then in a year from now, he's going to think of a terrorist and he's going to remember you. You're the one that answering this. That's this very well-known kazal that when a person says goodbye as an accasha because you leave somebody with that person that is going to be on his mind turned to the and he said and I'm going to leave you boys with aasha. He said, "But this I'm going to leave you with right now." He said, "This I'm telling you right now, nobody in the world knows the answer to." And he said, "Everybody's sitting there with baited breath and everyone's heart is pumping. What's this kasha that no one in the world knows an answer to that the matu is leaving the book? And he turned to the bookroom. He said just want to end with a we say on we ask I mean this is the most beautiful bra in the world. Everything there's nothing that's not in this. Who we ving on to get this it's I want to bench on all the that made this happen that are all in this room right now. But really all the bench and we should be leaving with the and of we should be zash