Zevachim 93

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And the Torah goes through pasuk after pasuk discussing important halachos as it relates to the korban chatos. One of the psukim, one of the halachos mentioned, is va'asher yizeh midam al beged, if dam of the korban chatos will land on a beged, asher yizeh olav dichabes bemakom kodesh. The halacha is, there's a mitzvah you have to go and wash the beged. So, if dam of the korban chatos would land on a beged, there's a mitzvah dichabes bemakom kodesh. Stated in that mishnah it said, the only time this halacha is true is if the dam was kosher dam. But let's say the chatos itself was pasul. So, dam chatos that's pasul, the halacha is, there would be no halacha of kibbus. Says the Gemara, bimei Rabi Nachum, Rabi Chisda, Rabi Nachum asked Rabi Chisda, niteiz al beged tamei. What happens if dam chatos, dam that's kosher, was niteiz on a beged, but the beged itself was tamei? Now, what's the halacha? Is there a din kibbus or is there not a din kibbus? Meaning, on the one hand, the dam itself was kosher, so that there should be a din kibbus. But then again, the moment the dam touches the beged, the dam is going to be tamei. So, it's bon kacha, as the dam touches the beged, it's now going to be dam tamei. In other words, dam possul. Dam possul has no halacha of kibbus. Amora Rabbah in B'reishis Rabbah in B'reishis Rabbah heard R' Bibi bar Abba shaila, and he made the following comment. He said, "R' Bibi bar Abba yachid from the fact that R' Bibi bar Abba is asking this question, shma minna, it's clear Hoisila shasya koshya v'nisslava ain dam tamei kibbus. We're going to see later in the Gemara that although the Mishna said dam chatas that's possul ain tamei kibbus, but there's a machlokes Tanna'im if that's only true in the event that this dam was possul m'tchilas b'riyasa, meaning it was never kosher, never had a shasya koshya. For example, the sh'chita of the chatas happened with a machshava l'shum d'shma, or machshava l'chuts l'zman, l'chuts l'makom. It's only then that it's viewed as dam possul that there's no din kibbus. Or if it's true even if it was Hoisila shasya koshya, even if the dam was okay, and then only later something happened. Now, this shaila clearly presupposes that the halacha that dam chatas that's possul is ain tamei kibbus is true even if the dam had a shasya koshya, because this dam had a shasya koshya. The dam was good dam. Had it become possul, it's landing on a beged, which is tamei. And the shaila is, do you say that we look at it as dam possul, so there should be no halacha of kibbus? If you're going to tell me the only time you don't have a din kibbus is where it was like Hoisila shasya koshya, then this conversation is a moot point. So, Rabbah b'rei d'R' Yehoshua said that's clear from Rabbah b'rei d'R' Yehoshua's ibbaya that he was of the opinion that the halacha that dam chatas that's possul ain dam tamei kibbus is true even if it was Hoisila shasya koshya. What's the shaila? The shaila is Hani mi'hu b'zacha zeh? Do you say that the only time dam chatas possul ain dam tamei kibbus is if first it became possul and afterwards it landed on the beged. Aval d'vasacha lo, but if it happens at the same time, being that it was kosher before landed on the beggar, maybe there is a or there's no difference. It doesn't matter if it's if it's the moment that that lands on the beggar, the dam becomes tummy because the beggar is tummy. So that's enough to say that there won't be a lot of so here's the total following answer. He said the answer to your is the following I'll leave it to the who could have come with that and based on the way explained it and then further embellished. In other words, the answer was a little bit of a riddle. Maybe came with a innocent question. Told him great it's I'll leave it to the so the Tanya we learned in other words going to explain says make sure you make sure we had a lot of intertwined in walking. The context over there is the that's the that was used to mix together with the of the to sprinkle on somebody that was maze so that now he could be the question in hand was what happens if the becomes could you use it or can you not use it and at first glance you would think a like this is dead on arrival. You can use for the I was going to say it's the that's the that's tell me you can use you can mix it with the and you can sprinkle it. And what was his shall we need them as in the because the is that if a woman's a and she's also to maze she can get the of the with the sprinkled on her and it'll be upon him from to maze. The time is the moment that the touches this the becomes and still you see it's metahir so you clearly see that you don't need the meichaltas to be tahor in order for it to be able to be metahir. So, says Rebbe Elazar, meichaltas she nitmu, metahir. The chachamim argue but al kol panim, that's shitas Rebbe Elazar. Says the Gemara, Rebbe Nachman said Rebbe Elazar's shita is like Rebbe Akiva, Rebbe Akiva holds like that said that you can bring a raya from a nida to all meichaltas temei'im that they can be metahir must be going like shitas Rebbe Akiva, his rebbe. Omar, how about this kulei Rebbe Nachman tamay kimunach tamay, who's of the opinion that if somebody would take a a keili that has in it something tahor and he would carry it on top of a makom tamay, we would look at that thing that he's carrying as if it's kimunach, as if it's on the ground, and being that it's on top of a davar tamay, we would look at it as if it's tamay. Incidentally, this is Rebbe Akiva's shita holds in Shas like kulei Rebbe Shimon ben Nachman. So, Rebbe Akiva's shita in Maseches Shabbos, but that's Rebbe Akiva's shita and it applies not only to Hilchos Shabbos but it applies to Hilchos Tumah. How do I know that? It's in Maseches Parah, hayo omed betoch hatanur vesheretz betanur. So, there was a person standing on one side of the tanur. The tanur itself had a sheretz inside. In other words, the tanur was tamay. Vahochshiach yado el hachalon and he stuck his hand into a window which was on the other side of the tanur. So, basically there's a tanur separating this person and the chalon. Venatal es halog and the person went and he took a bat a bottle a keili that had meichaltas in it from the chalon and he carried it from the chalon to him, which means he's going over the airspace of this tanur which is tamay. The halacha is Rebbe Akiva metahir and the chachamim metahir. Rebbe Akiva says it's tamay and the chachamim say it's not. Uvah halacha lemaaseh, what's the birur hamachlokes? He said Rebbe Akiva, Rebbe Akiva holds kimunach tamay. This is Rebbe Akiva's shita in Shas that kulei Rebbe Shimon ben Nachman. And it's not only true in Hilchos Shabbos, it's true with regards to Hilchos Tumah as well. Specifically with regards to the laws of Parah Adumah. So, if you now took this log in shel mayim that had in it the mine crime. You carried it on top of the the time or it's communal it becomes something. The bottom line is not going to be communal but what's the bottom line? It says this is the old school and it's true not only in this is true with regards to communal specifically with regards to the bottom line. The bottom line is you want to know how it was able to prove from the fact that you could sprinkle the if the mine was may occur it could be because that holds which means that every time you sprinkle the water on the needle before the water touches the needle it already became as soon as it's hovering in the air space and gave you a as long as it's hovering on the in the air space on top of the needle it automatically becomes even before it touched the needle which means that it was technically even before the so you see that mine that's you're able to use if that's the case time is the let's bring it back to wanted to know that's possible in what happens if the was tall but it landed on the back of the time so the moment it touched the back end that's when it became possible do you say that it's like it was possible in do you say maybe it's going to be different I'm going to leave it so what is say look at the I'll leave it to the bottom of the bottom of the which at this point is very he said it's the bottom of the and the way explained because according to the bottom of the that who's going to that there's a concept of communal so So, like we said at the may the when it's on top of the needle, even before it lands the needle, it's already Tommy cuz it's on top of the needle. So, that the mayim is Tommy before it touches the needle. So, too the dam not the may the dam will be Tommy before it lands on the bag yet. So, if that's the case that it's like regular dam possible that landed on the bag. Regular dam possible lands on the bag it is a normal gibbus but according to the that argue with the that hold that may that's Tommy cannot be metier. I the needle that's different cuz there it's becoming Tommy when it touches the needle. It wasn't Tommy before touch the needle because the don't go with you give it a don't hold off clutters. Same thing is going to be true over here that the dam that was possible may there won't tongue keepers but if it became possible the moment it landed on the bag it over there it would be tongue keepers. At first glance with his is telling that the answer to your is it's telling the like it's a lot of but leave it at that. But because they added one piece he said it would keep the metier what's that piece? The more continues they are by you a by you ask the question to a bow. So, we know was a bias ready a bias refers to my so I buy ask the question to his ready. He says ready I don't understand and he asked him a really good question. Wait till they with the says that even that said that if somebody was standing on one side of a tunnel and it was a on the other side of the tunnel and it was logging show my in the he stuck his hand into the takes the logging show my over the tunnel. That logging is it's going to be Tommy but he himself was worried by so that if you would sprinkle you would sprits the may over the Tommy that near the would be that it doesn't become Tommy. The only time you say the only time you say is if you're holding the thing. It's a little counter intuitive but if you're not holding it but rather it's it's traveling in the ear on top of it, here the law is different. It's and it's a foolish after. Point is you that if something is mild, something travels on top of a double time it that the law is it becomes time Macy's mobile things last even a minute guys by the way find the cancer by an Evan that's a material by the way there's a concept of Thomas Macy's maybe but uh I hold the French moose, but the point is is that that's the only time you find such a concept of a Sabaya said if that's the case, we have to go back and we have to we have to be revisit the really as it relates to the Rubble laws and the everybody holds that it's love coming out of the me meaning if somebody is going to make out of this on top of a meter it's not going to be cuz even that holds the dummy you only have this if you're holding it in your hand but once you but what right spend it in the air if you were massive it's not going to be come on out of the cuz what's the matter the giver some of the giver holds cuz we know you know what the bonus like those we know the whole thing the why if somebody stuck his hand over the time to take the log in to my hand why would be time it is what we give a hold that being that you're holding it is a we're afraid that maybe you're going to put it down there's a issue might put it down so he holds come on out of the me but the are not worried given enough of the law and we that we give a might have it by the law being that there's no swallow of you know what cuz it already it's already out of your hand, so maybe over there you have nothing to worry about. So, what then is the Let's just stop it for one second. It's not such an easy Basically, what just proved is said there's no such sheet as Rebbe Akiva who holds that if you're mazir a dover tahor on top of a dover tamei, as soon as it's in the airspace on top of the dover tamei, even before it lands, we could look at it as if it's based on what Rebbe Akiva said. It's true Rebbe Akiva holds and it's true he said it even regarding tumah. That's the case of the tanur where you stuck your hand. But it's only true if you're holding it. It's only based on a on a on a on a really, not on a on a But if you are mazir it where there's no because given the there's no such of If that's the case, then Rebbe Akiva has no Rebbe Akiva's case. What Rebbe wanted to prove Rebbe held that you could take that's tamei and you could be mazir on a on a person that's tamei and this is going to be tahor. What was his Everything is a raya. Because every nida is you could be mazir from the parah adumah. Why don't you say that the way we understood it, the way Rav explained it, that it's which means it became tamei before landing on the on the on the nida. Right? So, it's a raya that even though you say it's okay. In other words, even though it's tamei, it could still be metahor. That's all true if there's such a sheet in the world that holds by There's no such sheet. Because the only sheet that would have been Rebbe Akiva. Like Rebbe Rav said, Rebbe sheet is Rebbe Akiva Rav But there is no such Rebbe Akiva. Rebbe Akiva only said it when you're holding it where there's no But given the there's no There's no So, what is So, what is So, is said the Everybody holds it's not Why? Again, because you were mazir it. So, what then is the I'm done in Rebbe It's very simple. Rebbe didn't hear a between and nida. kehachad. But you find this throughout shas. Whenever something's bon kehachad, how do you look at a bon kehachad? Gittin yad bon kehachad. You have it over and over and over again. It's always tricky. In Rebbe Lazar's world, I don't hear a chilluk. The bottom line is is that if you're going to tell me that the moment the meichatess touches the the tamei, it becomes tamei. That's not a problem. Then if it was tamei 5 seconds earlier, it shouldn't be a problem either. Not that in the case of me that it was tamei 5 seconds earlier. It wasn't. Because there's no kluta. Because giving enough of nothing. But he doesn't even the chamo that that there is a chilluk. That's the machlokes. It has nothing to do with kluta. Okay. What's that got to do with the original shaila? The original shaila was dam chatas she nitas al beged tamei. Dam chatas that's pasul in tumas toin keilim. Dam chatas that's not pasul dam toin keilim. What if it became pasul at the moment it landed on the beged? What's the case? It landed on a on a beged tamei. Zokt Rebbe Chisda, it's again plukta de Rebbe Lazar Rebbe Nachman al liba de Rebbe Ukida de Tarei Tzva'im. What's Kidushei Tarei Tzva'im? The way Rebbe Akiva explains machlokes Rebbe Lazar and Rebbe Nachman, which is simply a machlokes, is there a chilluk between bevas achas and bevas achas achas or is there no chilluk between bevas achas and bevas achas achas? According to Rebbe Lazar, there's no chilluk between bevas achas achas. He's bringing a raya to bevas achas from a case of bevas achas. He's bringing a raya that the meichatess could be pasul meikara. It could be tamei meikara from a case where it's becoming tamei. That means there's no chilluk between bevas achas achas. If that's the case, then just like bevas achas dam chatas that's pasul in tumas toin keilim, bevas achas alacha is also going to be in tumas toin keilim. But according to the Chachamim, there is a distinction between bevas achas and bevas achas, there will be a distinction between bevas achas achas when it comes to dam chatas as well. If you held if you held Chashmona, there's one very obvious problem with this. And Rashi asks the kasha. So Rashi asks the kasha, you know, it's a very important kasha. You can't go by it or whatever. And that is is that what did Rebbe Chisda tell him? Rebbe Nachman Rebbe Nachman asked the shaila, and Rebbe Chisda answered him with a riddle. He told him it's plukta de Rebbe Lazar Rebbe Nachman al liba de Rebbe Ukida de Tarei Tzva'im. That is rabba and Abaya were two completely different beerum in the machlokes of rabbinical laws and chachamim is whether you say or you don't say chachamim. Abaya said the machlokes of rabbinical laws and chachamim is whether done in there's a chelek between chachamim and there's no chelek between chachamim. Either carrot is a perfect first of rabbinical laws and chachamim, but they don't work together. They don't jive. It's either told in the machlokes of rabbinical laws and rabbonim the way rabba explained it or it's told in the machlokes of rabbinical laws and rabbonim the way Abaya explained it. But the point is it's not a leeba de rabba who could have met Abaya. Abaya wasn't a carrot rabba. Abaya slugged up knocked out rabba's exactly. He didn't qualify rabba. To the contrary knocked out rabba. So what's the kid of a carrot Abaya de rabba who could have met Abaya? It's other other. And really it's not other other. It's only the second other because the first other was knocked out. Right? Abaya asked knock out kasha. He said you're telling rabba you're giving a mishna don't knock out rabba. You're giving a mishna parik yudin in the parik yudin you're giving a parik test in the parik yudin. This is two it doesn't work this. So Rashi asked the kasha and Rashi said you have to say the thing that Abaya was rabba's talmud and Abaya had tremendous covid for rabba. So rabba said the and then Abaya said and he told rabba my say rebbe I don't think it works because there's a daf and they worked it out together and together they came out that the beer is probably not the way rabba said it rather the beer is the way Abaya said it. But being that this wasn't done in a hostile setting. This wasn't done this wasn't covid like a talmud who was make of his rebbe the way Abaya had covid and rebbe rabba. So it's as if they came out that way together and that's why it's still attributed to rabba a little bit of a Rashi, but that's the way Rashi explains it. Regardless we had two beerum in the machlokes of rabbinical laws and chachamim. Either beer works in terms of coming full circle and relating it back to the original stating that if there's rubber and there's a buyer there's always going to be rubber so that's the third beer rubber man rubber says as it relates to the rubber really everybody holds ain't done and everybody holds there's no so what then is the again said that says Tommy could you can use the entire what's the right from every needle the homes that you can't bring a riot from a needle what's the right from a needle needles this is and there's no clue to we know that from and you tell me you're not going to so what then is the is the third time we had this rubber holds that has of requires a certain share of how much Mayan had to go on the Tommy not to that we start from you didn't necessarily have to do that whole one shot you can do two three and you can be being that that's the case when you do that the needle the first that lands on the needle becomes Tommy and she's not necessarily tall her yet because you may have to do multiple so let's say by the time you do the third the first two is that time was already Tommy so it's not it's it's and still you see it works so from every needle there's a riot that works what's the right I could find it now I'll be sure if it was always one but it's not one it could be it was multiple and the first Mayan that landed on the needle became Tommy exactly before she became tall her it didn't happen and still you see it works so you're not done in every case as well what do the and hold the opponent the opponent hold does he have no right access which just before we go further, just one interesting thing. So, you see in this Gemara an idea that a Niddah that's also tumah tumas meis. So, the halacha is she can get tahara from tumas meis despite the fact that she's a Niddah. Meaning, you would think that maybe while she's tumah meis, she can't get the tahara of the parah adumah. Come ask the one that even though she's tumah right now tumas Niddah, it's not a contradiction to the fact that on the day of the eighth of the parah adumah, she can paint tahara for the fact that she's a tumah meis. Stating that, there's a very, very interesting Rashi. "Tzarei Niddah she nitma b'meis, mazina well b'fnei tfilas Niddahsa. V'tovelus lishnei hatumois b'tfila achas." Says Rashi, "What happens with a Niddah that's a tumah tumas meis?" So, at the end of the tumas meis, the the tumah needs tfila. A Niddah also needs tfila. Says Rashi, "V'tovelus lishnei hatumois b'tfila achas." That at the end of the time of tumas meis and the Niddah, she's going to do one tfila and she's going to knock out both the kashrus lover and the Hashem yimkom damo. And in the sefer sicha sodah, who's medayek in Rashi, it sounds like from Rashi that even though it's Mevuan this chiddush that the hazah of the parah adumah was able to be done on a Niddah, but at the same time, you can't be tovel a Niddah with tovel a tumas meis if you're not going to end up being tahor for both. In other words, as it relates to the complete tahara, the mikvah that's the metahir, that's only shayach if the mikvah's going to be metahir this Niddah side from the tumas Niddah and side from the tumas meis. So, you want to get the tahara from the eighth of the parah adumah that you can get. But, the maiseh, the tahara is still suspended on some level. You still that's the kind of mikvah. So, that you wait until you're done. When you're ready to go to the mikvah, hand mitzad tumas Niddah, the hand mitzad tumas meis. Then, one spring around in the mikvah, the tovel, you're going to get tahara. But, to go into the mikvah, let's say, for nidah while you're still tumah to mas meis, or to go to the mikvah for tumah meis while you're still tumah to mas nidah, that's not possible. Because the mikvah only works if it's metayer. Oh, oh, excellent. Because at the end of the day, mikvah only works if you're tahor. And being that you're anyways going to emerge from the mikvah tumah, there's no koach in the mikvah. And that's why Rashi points out that as it relates to the tevilah of the mikvah, it's going to have to be one tevilah. It can't be two independent tevilahs. You can't say, "Okay, you'll be tovel for nidah, and then when it's time to be tovel for the tumah meis, you'll be tovel for tumah meis." Rashi went out of his way to tell me "Ve'toiveles lishnei tumois b'tevilah achas." Says the Kodesh Baruch Hu V'Hu Go'ein, "Don't think you could do one tevilah for this, and then when you're ready to do the next tevilah, you do the next tevilah." Either you Either the tevilah is being metayer you, or it's not being metayer. You can't walk out of the mikvah and still be tamei. The emphasis this chiddush, this tremendous yeshivish already. And really it starts with Rav Chaim's chakiros, Rav Chaim's stencils, Rav Chaim Kluger chakiros. We all know the tevilah of the sheretz b'yado is not a tevilah. Rav Chaim Kluger chakiros. What's the pshat if someone's tovel for a sheretz b'yado? He's tamei. Is the pshat that the tevilah worked? After pigul, this is the second big, yeah. So, Rav Chaim Kluger like this. If somebody's tovel for a sheretz b'yado, is the pshat that the tevilah is a tevilah? The tevilah was tevilah. But, problem is he's touching a sheretz, so he became tamei again. Or is a tovel for a sheretz b'yado not considered a tevilah? A tovel for a sheretz b'yado, being that he's holding a sheretz, so the tevilah wasn't a tevilah. Rav Chaim said, "What's the nafka mina?" Nafka mina would be let's say you're being tovel for tumah meis, a tumah chamurah. So, if the pshat is that the tevilah is a tevilah, so you're going to walk out, you're not tamei to mas meis anymore. You're going to have a tumah kaloh. You're only going to have tumah sheretz. But, if the pshat is the tevilah is not a tevilah, then the fact that you're tovel for a sheretz b'yado, you're touching the sheretz, you're still going to be tamei to mas meis. What's the second side of Rav Chaim? He partially would say, "Why shouldn't the tevilah be a tevilah? The tevilah works for Thomas Mayes. No I'm holding a chair. It's what's the the other side is because feel that has to be you and if the feel is not you then it's the reason that is not for a double cow. It's because you're you're you're you're holding a chair but at the end of the way it finish taller and if the can't pronounce it can't make a proclamation that this year this tall then the feel a type of goodness. It's not a feel. If it's not a feel the minute you start going to be Thomas Mayes the that it's really a mission that first glance it would seem to be a mission. This mission is a mission at the very end of mission mission mission what they discuss is there was a person that was a person whose coming out to my Shiva right show us a man right the mission in the first mission carbon maybe so we're dealing with a show carry and he was about carry during the time that he was a he was a carry. So what's the of a carry? See how to say but someone that's he's not going to until he until he goes to the but is a so to speak carry is a is a cow. So carry or a woman that's in need of a mission era who also treated like a carry the is three things to do after the meaning you would have thought that being that you're in the middle of the seven days of the woman is in the middle of the seven days of so she's anyways what's the point of going to the now for carry says the mission three things to do but he says no he says that that being that you're anyways you're going to be you don't for for Thomas carry. If you take a look at the really all the just to bring out the point says the the the the the holds the even though this person is a even if he's going to go to the now for Thomas carry he's still going to be a I feel the absolute time with everything you might as well get rid of the of the Thomas keri. Rabbi Yehudah says Rabbi Yehudah argues. Rabbi Yehudah says no, you don't go to the mikvah. She ain't feeling my head. Well, hence she Well, hence ain't feeling my head. The kiva ain't feeling my head. Skip the word kiva. The kiva ain't feeling my head. Meaning that the feeling doesn't work. There is no point in doing the tvila. What's the Sounds like I'm going to kill you. Is there a concept of a tvila of going to the mikvah that kind of government you're not going to walk out tahor or is there no such concept if you're not going to walk out tahor? Either way, it's from Chaim Chaikira. There seems to be a mishna here in Maseches Brachos is the katzeglove of gainst the again our Rashi. There's a lot a lot of rais, but just to conclude, wrap up this roots prematurely with a with a version of the Labavitcher Rebbe. And that is that the mishna says in Maseches Yoma daf peh heh amud beis. Omrei Rabbi Akiva, Rabbi Akiva said ashrechem Yisrael lifnei Mi atem mitaharin u mi mitahareschem? Avichem sheba shamayim. She na'amar vezarakti aleichem mayim tahorim utahartem. V'oyim mikveh Yisrael Hashem. Mah mikveh mitahares atmeim? Afa Baruch Hu mitahares Yisrael. Everybody knows this mishna. So, ra- ra- Mah mikveh mitahares atmeim? Afa Kadosh Baruch Hu mitahares Yisrael. And the Labavitcher Rebbe made a subtle but a but a but a such a profound deek. Mah mikveh mitahares atmeim? Everybody knows a mikveh is mitahares atmeim. Why does the mishna have to say Mah mikveh mitahares atmeim? Mah mikveh mitahares? Mah mikveh mitahares atmeim? So, the Labavitcher Rebbe shlita took this mishna in Maseches Brachos daf chof vov amud alef. They see that the chachamim hold and we pasken like the chachamim that if somebody is a zav, but he was raw keri, he can go to the mikveh for tumas keri and he's going to be all his keri even though he still has the tumas chamurah. But the tumas kallah, that's something that's going to be removed. In other words, a mikveh is not an all or nothing. A person could go to the mikveh and he can get taharah for whatever he shaiach to get taharah to. Even though he's not walking out 100% kavanaki tahor. He's not. But for whatever that shaiach for the tumas keri, he'll get taharah. Maybe not for the tumas zav, but for the tumas keri, yeah. Said the Labavitcher Rebbe, Afa Kadosh Baruch Hu mitahares Yisrael. not an all or nothing game. A person thinks sometime I'm going to do I'm going to try to get tired for a certain area. The end of the day I have so many of various of so many of winners. I'm still some of the what do I have to get any level of Kapala? The college board is like to make for man make for me to lay not to lay in the maker for that mission would have to say to me but even people that emerge to mayor you to mayor after the maker You should be all right but at the same time the maker work to take away the maker work to take away the carrier even though you still going to be left with the Thomas of Africa with as you stroll in the same vein that any little bit of trivia that we do any little bit of Tyra that we seek we get tired for that we're not perfect you're right it's not an all or nothing game cuz it's my tire even the today either way talk to me how to that of of a person Mr. That's a lot lighter from here on so even though that is a dumb that's possible that ain't dumb I'm sorry even though that is but that is possible ain't dumb the mission said it doesn't matter if it's a person whether the the dumb was possible maker or it had a it doesn't matter either way that is ain't dumb says the it says me dumb to the person That discusses the of dumb to say that me dumb of a big I should use the college it says the most some of it's dumb and we learn from the same only from some of the dumb not all of the dumb dumb needs dumb doesn't need to give it says the mission like ain't dumb it says it argues with the dumb of the mission says it depends if it was or not then it's only if it's ain't done with keepers. It doesn't matter if it was ain't done with keepers. My time with as you know maybe the only talking about what it was like but it was like I saw because there's two do you care? It says that she is a matter and then two later it says I saw So, two do you care? How do you know what happened? Two do you care? I'm coming to be like I saw what do you care? What do you care? Only what do you care? So, what do you care? What do you care? What do you care? Says the probably true coming to be true with regards to the America which is a a different that the is going to discuss later in the and that is the is that carbon that was cooked in a pot specifically you have to destroy the pot if it was cooked in a clean so then you're supposed to either or something or just rinse it really really well. That is only true for it's true for other culture as well but probably true it's not true for true. How do you know true is excluded from that America is that probably true probably true probably true probably true probably true probably true probably true probably true probably true probably true probably true probably true probably true probably true probably true probably true probably true probably true probably true probably true probably true probably true probably So, you have to mute it both related to the keepers. One is coming to tell me the of what I saw what I saw what I saw what I saw and the second one is coming to tell me what I saw what I saw what I saw even if it was what I saw what I saw what I saw what I saw what I saw what I saw either way another mission or that discusses the of what I saw what I saw what I saw what I saw what I saw what I saw what I saw what I saw what I saw what I saw if sprits from the top of the Behema straight on the Beged. It's a dumb hot sauce went directly from the top of the Behema onto the Beged. Ain't give us a lot of doesn't need give us. When I carried him and I saw it what if it went from the Misbeha? Either the carrot, that's what you do this Rico. Like the carrots was on the carrots of Misbeha or from the Yisod. That's where you put the Shirai. That's what the Shifcha Shirai was also ain't on give us. Out Nischpa Rispah, let's say it it poured on the ground. The Asvoi, Rashi says it was Nischpa Rispah meaning not over meaning it was it was the bad Nischpa not the good Nischpa. This dam is possible. Ain't on give us you don't need give us. Ain't on give us all the dam is covered with clear water. When do you need give us? If the dam was Nischpa in a clear and it's on. So this Mishna is a little wordy. I seems to repeat itself a little bit. The Gamara is going to address. So the first Mishna was Nitis Min Saver Allah Beged ain't on give us. The second Allah was Min Karen or Min Yisod ain't on give us. So if it happened before the Kabala ain't on give us. If it happened after this Rico it's also ain't on give us. Turn around you have this all the way ain't on give us. I would have thought that if it goes directly from the top onto the Beged there should be give us I see Yisod. Where are you marking the right side of the Gamara is making a beautiful day in the Posik. The Posik that describes the dam landing on the Beged says Yisod Allah Beged. Yisod is a washing hazard. Sounds like we're talking about a Rico. What do you mean a hazard? It it it was a hazard on the Beged. It landed on the Beged. When you talk about the Misbeha you talk about the Mitzvah of hazard of Rico. Use a washing of Yisod. It it was Nischpa on the Beged. It poured on the Beged. Why this word Yisod? So Yisod is coming to tell me it has to be Rico hazard. If the dam was Rico hazard then you have the of give us it wasn't Rico hazard. Can you another braiser? You have this all the way ain't on give us. I would have thought that if it went from the Karen or from the Yisod onto the Beged it should be give us I see Yisod. Try I see Faruza. From the same words I see Yisod it's a different drasha. The first drasha of the fact that the third use the word hazard. why even using the word as a? Must be it's right as a. Here it's from the tents that the pastor uses. Actually use it like a lotion acid. As opposed something that's raw you as a you're going to do as a with it. As opposed to this that you already did as a with it at that point. If it goes from the misbehave onto the beggar, there's no need to keep us. Nisha Allah ritzpa. Then the mission continued and said that if it was Nisha on the ritzpa, also ain't on kibos. And then the mission concluded ain't on kibos and then it's called the kibos as a. Take the Gamora. As you normally in the cash is on that last line. We have last line for it. It's a recap. But but what do we need a recap for? Says the Gamora I'm coming out. The way you read the mission is I'm coming out. Nisha Allah ritzpa ain't on kibos. What's the reason for Nisha on the kibos? So fish ain't on kibos it's called the kibos as a. Cuz only time there's a lot of kibos if it was Nisha the kibos and being that this wasn't Nisha the kibos it was Nisha. So for that reason there's no a lot of it. Then the mission said the as a. What does that mean? Next Gamora. As you normally right ain't on kibos I'm sure it's called the kibos that I get. That's the Nisha. But what's this other line? The as a. Says the Gamora the kibos with the as a as a. So this is like the Gamora sometimes says Nisha okay I'm just telling me something like completely as a. That's what's going on over here. So the mission is telling me a lot of random so to speak. But there is as a and that is that if somebody was the as a. As a as a as a as a as a as a as a. And then he was the two times you would think it should be kosher. Why not? So the is that it's going to be possible. The it's not going to be kosher. And that means if it's not going to be kosher that if I'm that was Nisha in that way is Nisha the beggar that is the is not going to need kibos. And that's what the as a is teaching me. The as a means the something. What's a Lam what they if it was in the scabo pocha is big there big there. Oop pocha is big there big there. Then even if you were marrying together if they had done when they were on a big year it's going to be pocha it says the the Tanya. We went to the brasa of Rav Kaddish pocha big there big there. Meaning what's the cut of this halacha? It comes from Rav Kaddish. He said if somebody was Kaddish not done but we return to mechat was paid for poris as Rashi big there big there big there. Like Kaddish. So if somebody was Kaddish is a sheer of how much the has to be right we said to be a sheer. So if there was pocha big there big there big there big there big there and you marry the two things so what's the halacha? The halacha is it's not good. Like Kaddish it's not kosher for pora e by the dam what about with regards to dam? Do we do we say that this halacha of pora is halacha machine? You can't learn things from halacha machine. It's a normal hustle my timer or maybe it's not a halacha machine. The fact that by the mechat us pocha big there big there big there big there big there doesn't work is not learned out merely from halacha machine but it could be learned out from a possum. What would the drasha be? The tova by mayim and by mayim Rashi says the deek is it doesn't say be mayim with a shva it says by mayim with a patach and that's coming to teach me that it has to be the water that you were Kaddish meaning the feeler into the mayim has to be the same mayim that was Kaddish. So just like there's a sheer of mayim in terms of what you need when you do the feeler so too you would have had to have that same sheer may Kora when you were Kaddish the mayim. But the point is if that's the source if that's the cut of how you know pocha big there big there big there big there big there. If you know it from the tova by Mayim, if that's the case, then and by dam it says the Torah by dam and maybe the would be true by dam as well. So again, that was the but said like as it relates to the you can't be because it and then mix them together. You have to be the entire and the is that true only for or is that true for a dam as well? Dam dam would that have the same exact incidentally says we're talking about the what is the dam the Torah as it relates to the so do you have the same do you have to and what is the start of the is the dam as it relates to the so you can't learn dam as it relates to the if the can't learn things from but if the the the then I could say I have the same deal for dam also says the dam would be true by dam as well. Says the dam dam dam dam dam dam dam it doesn't work. Bottom line, if you see that by dam there's a you have to the entire share the so could be when the mission says it means that so too we are the dam itself was the whole story with the dam was is that it wasn't that dam that lands on the the is going to be that type of dam ain't that the dam said we don't get a it's funny. On my time. On my the Torah so we just mentioned the the Torah the Torah continues and says the dam so that so obviously we're talking about the Torah that in addition to the the there were also that were done on the seven that were done on the all the apnimiyos had as always that were done on the paroches. The two chatoyis apnimiyos that were brought in Yom Kippur also had as always that were done in bein adam l'chaveiro sh'b'Kodesh but all chatoyis apnimiyos, in addition to some of the other the fact that they were part of the man and seraphim and it was done inside the heichal in contrast to a chatoyis that when it was b'chachitzah and that you're not allowed to bring the dam into the heichal that's the p'suk in Mishnah but in addition to all that, in addition to all that, they also had as always that were done on the paroches. And that's what the pasuk says, "V'toval hakoin es etzbo b'dam." "V'hizah min adam." And the Gemara is going to darshen three words in this pasuk. Number one, "V'toval." Number two, "B'dam." And number three, "V'hizah etzbo min adam." Min adam as well. So says the Gemara, "Amar Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak d'Tanna Rav Oshaya, 'V'toval' it's coming to teach me v'lo m'sapek that you have to do t'vilah as opposed to you can't schmear your hand, the kohen can't, to get the dam that way. He It has to be through a t'vilah." It says, "B'dam." That's dalet halachos we just said. "Achrei adam sh't'vilah m'ikar." You have to make sure that the shiur dam was there from the beginning. When it says, "Min adam." "V'hizah min adam." "Min adam sh'b'inyan." What does that mean? So Rashi explains really the Gemara is going to explain, "Min adam sh'b'inyan" means that you can't use the shiurayim of the etzba, which means that if there were going to be seven hazoyos on the paroches, there had to be seven t'vilos. And in between each t'vilah as we'll see he had to wipe his finger off because the leftover dam on his finger had a din shiurayim and the shiurayim can't go on the mizbei'ach. So those are the three halachos. Again, "V'toval" means it has to be through t'vilah as opposed you can't wipe your hand, you can't schmear the the keili and take the dam that way. "B'dam" means you need the entire shiur hazah. "B't'chilas kid." You have to be m'kabel it all with hazahos. You can't be m'kabel a little bit a little bit, mix it together and then do the t'vilah. You need the dam m'ikar. And "Min adam" is teaching me that the shiurayim on the etzba is not enough. The Gemara says, You need all these words. "Kulo" what the Gemara is about to say is a little redundant. "L'galei m'kom d'toval had to adjust the t'vilah have a min adam have to be like a shiur t'vilah I would say, "Okay, I know but who said you need the shear may cut?" Okay, but don't teach us me Allah and Kabbalah. How much time you have to have? But who said that misafi is a problem? But what do they might or my rather the what they share and share that but like we explained that's coming to be required shear and share that's that the shear is going to be possible. The shear on the shear is possible. Is possible. I'm going to tell me to her I heard from your town mate. Which town mate we don't know. If the coin was being maza and a little bit of what he was being maza went on Actually and it landed on a bag yet. Turn keepers. Ain't turn keepers. This Allah this price is a little bit sauce. The maza A little bit of the dam lands on the bag yet. Actually he's There is a turn keepers. There's no keepers. So he said I presume we did the way we read the price. Actually the Allah has a turn keepers. Until you finish doing all of the seven eyes on the price There's Allah of keepers. Mission eyes is but once you finish doing all seven ain't turn keepers. What's the cash? It sounds like until you finish doing all seven you're always going to need keepers. Even if the dam that landed was the shear and share that's possible. So don't you have a right that the shear and share that's possible? Is kosher? Because if the Allah has a needs keepers obviously it's not going to be dam to me dam possible. So he told me back like how he come this what he means. Actually you have it's not going to be done. It doesn't mean actually he's finished all seven. Each individual has he did feel as until he does the if it lands the tongue keepers. Once he does the you don't need cuz once you do the it's already and really does not need it's fair by one more cash. Come on after the finished doing the and this is referring to the that was done by the those weren't done at the they were done at they were done at the seven and the says says we have when the that was doing the with the when he finished doing that he would take his hand and he would wipe it on the pot the pot itself and it's really based on a because the says the sort of part of it that's the sort of it stop I'll show you how to take all the you have to burn it together with the so if there's any down left over he's not using it as a towel cuz he's a deep straight on the down. So he has to make sure all the down gets in even the down that's on his hand. But this is talking about when he finishes everything. It sounds like only when he finishes it. But before he finishes it there's no such a what's the the is if she is possible by the of the then it should be possible when it comes to the of the as well. And if it's possible when it comes to the as well then why is he only been when he finishes that before in between each of he should have to be there's nothing wrong if a little bit of the mixes itself into the of I thought the is possible that was the that's what I mean the is it sounds like that's when you do but if you weren't no told him back when he finishes he's you have to be like when he doesn't finish he has to be his boy not his whole hand his boy meaning the deal is because it's when it's when it's you have to do but only with your finger not with your whole hand this when he finishes when he's his entire hand he doesn't on the that I know that's the possible we just mentioned as don't want to say but that has to be burned hello it's boy in between when he does on his finger but what is on the we had this before that came and served the dual purpose they were called means like to be means to cleanse so you they would use as cleansing utensils as well that's what he wiped it he wiped it on the just before we end just end with one interesting thing so we're discussing the over here of why is this why you need what's the reason for it why if you look at the the we should in the first the first one listen to what I'm saying so it says the you know why don't keep the the cottage has the honey bag and last cashier meaning you want to make the bag and be the way it was before the dam went on it shall I say the claw cuz we're afraid that you may take the bag and outside of the claw and if you take the bag and outside of the you're being in the dam the dam itself is going to be going out so the is a little bit the says it a little bit more clear as you all of the so dam say cuz the dam is dam and with which has a dam that it has to be with the reason we don't allow bag and if the dam is going to go on the bag and if you say and it's going to leave the claw and here's the punchline you say it's going to be possibly you taste. And you know what it may be culture with you can't make culture possible. So you want to know why there's a mix of passion? Because the coins going to want to wear these again or at the very least he's going to take the outside of the if the damage inside the bag and when he takes the bag and outside of the club is a problem. So it's for that reason there's a key person the reason you have to have a sit is that there shouldn't be in his parish on this positive right here says he says history on the same word so the he been nicer shall this is because otherwise it's going to be nicer and and nicer is a problem you have to burn nicer so if you're going to have done inside the bag and you're going to take it home with you because it's going to turn into nicer and it's going to turn into nicer that's a problem nicer and done with the nicer and done possible there's nicer when you have a nicer when it comes to I think this is history but I'll go it's related to that's the point whether it's said whether I'm going to clearly say or whether it's nicer I don't know what means we actually say but the man says it's nicer but the bottom line is whether it's nicer or whether it's it's related to but there's an obvious question and we'll end with this what's the the of is only true by it's not true by if the related to the reason why is it only true by you know if it's a new day and there's a key person you'll tell me some reason why it's related to this is my is the reason why it's related to if it's related to the reason why it's related to the reason why it's related to the reason why it's related to the reason why it's related to the reason why it's related to the reason why it's related to the reason why it's related to the reason why it's related to the reason why it's related to the reason